Democrats immediately start calling Trump too old
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I mean we've been saying they are both too old. That hasn't changed.
Unless the democrats fuck up and pick someone over 70, it's a good win for them on this point.
Contender? He should've been the president in 2016. Democrats had to fuck that up. Trump won mostly because people hated Hilary.
Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million because most people liked her.
She lost the electoral college vote because of a few really close states.
Yeah, against a playboy who didn't have any political experience or acumen whatsoever. This should've been a landslide victory for dems. I stand by what I said, Trump won because it was Hilary he was up against. If it were Bernie, Trump wouldn't have had a chance.
Even my dad, a blue collar welder in his late 60s, was totally on the Bernie train in 2016. If that doesn't tell you anything about how Bernie could have done, I don't know what will.
Just because she won the popular vote, doesn't mean everyone was happy to vote for her either
Same for Trump...
A few states that were really close because her campaign was up against a social-media heavy campaign that weaponized misinformation, and didn’t know how to respond.
She lost the electoral college because she rigged the primary.
In retrospect the margin was so thin that if she'd only modestly pissed off Sanders voters she would have won.
I'm not so sure of that. Rich people from both parties might have thrown their money and power against the threat of even weak tea socialism.
Hilary was beating the rapist with 34 felonies ass in the polls. The shit stain won because people thought it was a landslide and didn't need to vote. That won't happen again. She still won popular vote, something a republikkklown hasn't done in a hot minute.
Edit: Looks like facts hurt some snowflakes feelings.
The reasons Hillary lost in 2016 are varied.
Even with all that going on, she did end up as the Winningest Losing Candidate in American history. I HOPE that they are going 50 State Strategy this time around. Trolls look for weak points that they can attack.
Nah, Hilary was a fine choice despite her own personal and political issues. Despite not preferring her, I am rather confident that she would have not made a bad President. Perhaps not a good one, just also not a bad one.
Fucking shame what happened. Oi, Chaps! I say we bloody up this wanker with a side o' voting!
Sorry, channeling my stereotypical inner mocking British man.
Edit: I stand by what I said unless given compelling reasons to not do so. Maybe I'm remembering things incorrectly. It's been awhile. Make a case, don't care if it's a legitimate link. I'm happy to do a learn.
It's not like people like Kamala either
That's a wild definition of "unknown"
I've grown to like her more in the last 24 hours as I read more about her actions through the last couple years.
Sigh. Try reading about her last twenty years, not the last 3.
He wasn't a Democratic Party member in 2016. He caucused and partnership with them but if he's not going to be in the party, nobody should be surprised that he's not the parties pick or preference. He didn't officially join them until 2019. The circumstances might not have worked but be real the Democrats didn't fuck it up in 2016.
Unfortunately Bernie’s leftist policies posed a slight risk to a small percentage of capital. So an all-out bipartisan effort to torpedo him ensued, and from the ashes emerged Planet Hillary.
Don't underestimate the DNC's ability to pick the worst possible option
Much as I like Bernie, but yeah, the same goes for him as for Biden.
I think Bernie is a pretty smart guy. he knows where he can be most effective - no trajectory change needed.
Sure. But he's getting up there in years too. Eight years ago I really wanted him to win.
I think everyone who had their name pushed and could have a chance at the convention has already endorsed Kamala Harris. They're pretty obviously trying to avoid a contentious convention.
That seems to be the goal. I think it's a good idea to not go too hard on Harris until the convention, but the excitement seems there.
I still really want AOC but with Whitmer bowing out I think Buttigiege is probably it.
Harris is a black woman. No way they're picking a gay man as her running mate. They're worried she has too much for the (X)phobic crowd on her own. I would be absolutely shocked if whoever they pick as her VP isn't a straight white man. You can say what you like about it but that's the reality of where we are as a nation.
The kind of people who would not vote for Harris because she's a Black woman were already going to vote for Trump.
There are absolutely people who are not concerned enough with race or gender to vote for a black woman but are still homophobic. Who knows how many people that is but I would bet a lot of money that the DNC has no intention of finding out.
There once was a man from the Kremlin,
A fascist, war-mongering gremlin.
To strengthen his rule,
He empowered a fool,
Now the voters have both of them tremblin'.
no u
Ah okay okay fine.
both? biden isn't running any longer
Yet dropping out didn't make him a single day younger. He's still too old.
How would you know??? I bet it did!
COVID, my ass, Biden been drinking from the fountain of youth. Any day now, he'll become unborn and lay in stasis until ready to be birthed for his next presidential run in 2077 during which he'll battle Mecha-Reagan!
If you don't believe me, ask my neighbor's dog. They're the one who told me all this. Crafty damn dog...
He is too old, but like, if a 90 year old hitler were running for president i wouldnt be saying im not voting for him because of his age. Trump has been the worst parts of humanity for decades.
Exactly. "Too old" is a concern, but far less than "fascist wanna be dictator."
Dementia Don, the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence is too old. He needs to drop out, it's just embarrassing at this point.
The Fanta Menace. I'm dying on this hill.
The Tangerine Palpatine is simply too old to lead the galactic senate and needs to step down to the nursing home.
TIL they have nursing homes in prison.
Oh shit, that's not bad, I'm going to have to work a little and add it in
If we're doing Star Wars names, may I suggest Bloba Fatt?
This really has a nice ring to it. I feel like it could go on a sign.
Wait wait, the Democrats, who said Biden was too old and stopped giving $ to Biden's campaign are being consistent in their message? Well I'll be damned.
How dare you hold republicans to even the most meager standards!
The Uncommitted movement was about his support of the genocide, not his age.
Yep. And the primaries are a great time to do just that.
But Biden didn't drop out because of the uncommitted movement.
No, the people with money were afraid he could not win, letting a significantly worse candidate win.
Maybe, but that's because the rest of us did think he was to old. One doesn't invalidate the other.
The people who pulled the money felt he was likely to fail because of his age, or rather, the affects of it on his performance. If he had been killing it, he would still be in. However they didn't pull their money because of him arming a genocidal regime, which is the issue that the comment I was replying to, was saying.
Fair enough.
Let them have fun voting for her then, because she does nothing for us
Preventing the collapse of the country isn't good enough for you idiots?
In 2020 I knew Biden was a Zionist, a racist, a warmonger and his issues page was anti-Arab and anti-Palestinian. But I was told Trump will be worse, so I begrudgingly voted for him and got a genocide.
The same playbook cannot work again for Kamala Harris and I don’t think I am the only one who feels this way.
You may want to prevent some imagined unicorn scenario that is unrealistic. I want to prevent this actual hell on Earth that Biden is enabling. Watch the doctor's interview with CBS or just the short segment I just linked to, then tell me again about voting for someone who supports "Israel's right to defend itself" and doesn't think there should be conditions on it.
Hallmarks of an internet troll - a user which makes no meaningful contributions, or engages meaningfully with any other topics other than political agitation. In this case we have pages and pages of history revolving around using Gaza as a cudgel against Democrats, and literally nothing else.
Curious that they only moderate a bunch of Arab magazines and a single Huawei mag. That's completely random and not weirdly specific at all I'm sure.
Ad hominem. If you aren't going to watch this and develop a better understanding of what the Democratic Party has enabled so be it.
But understand that the people you despise and dehumanize the most can still swing the election, perhaps treating them as humans is a good first step. Instead our anger is demonized too.
You know, I could keep quiet and just not vote for Biden or Harris. I am the idiot who is wasting his time on people who don't even see us as humans. You do realize this makes it even harder for the Democratic Party in future elections?
"I don't like what happened therefore the other option must have been better" is the kind of logic I'd expect from a two year old.
The other option for me was voting third party. I swore off Republicans in 2004 when I voted for Kerry and never looked back.
Getting a viable candidate that will spurn israel is not something that is going to happen any time soon. This will require a major cultural shift in the US, and that isn't gonna happen easily. This is the sickening state of reality, life is cheap, and most people do not give a fuck.
Honestly, if it's a choice between me and some people I don't know half a world away, I'm picking me. That goes twice when the choices are:
I'll pick the gal every single fucking time.
He confused Biden and Obama, Haley and Pelosi. Bizarre stuff spews from his mouth nearly every time he opens it. Where's the outrage?
Gnawing a hole in my gut.
No, that's just the Indian food you had for lunch
Its an expired Vietnam era M-ration but good guess.
You should make a YouTube channel!
I am not steve. Anyways I was simply making a joke.
He's been doing it for so long it's exactly what we are conditioned to expect.
Everyone sane is outraged.
This really demonstrates a difference between democrats and republicans.
Democrats cared about the hypocrisy of pointing out that the opponent candidate was too old, and only started saying this after this was no longer a problem.
Republicans didn’t care that their candidate was also too old.
Damn, that's a great point
Its not his age it's that his brain is broken.
His brain is even more broken than before. Watch the footage of MAGAts walking out of his rallies as he keeps repeating the same things and talking gibberish.
Just remembered one video
I hadn't seen this before, and it was generally really enlightening that these Trump supporters have genuine concerns for the working class, obvious as that should be by now. It just sucks that they've been hoodwinked into thinking that Trump is their savior from the corporate oligarchy that is clearly affecting us all. Misplaced reverence to a guy who is a mechanism in the same pro-corporate atmosphere. If only they realized that the Democrat party (flawed as it is) actually works toward their interests with policy (edit: toward improving wages, taxing the ultra rich more fairly, healthcare ideally for all, social programs, etc.), rather than attaching themselves to this "not-a-career-politician" who couldn't care less about them. Maybe not all hope is lost on trump supporters, but the cult of personality is much too strong and has been for a long time.
I mean I saw nothing impressive there, just showing that people know they're voting against their own interests and some ARE intelligent enough to know that but decide to not think about it.
Is this a video showing problems about Trump, or just problems with our whole system regardless of the "leadership"
Probably both
And not just normal age related broken. Though age hasn't really improved the situation.
He abuses Adderall which would explain his cognitive decline.
Neurosyphilis is wild
I mean, he is too old. He's only 3 years younger than Biden. So if the narrative here is that Biden is too old, then so is Trump.
That three years makes a big difference to Trump voters, that is the difference between "Frowned Upon" and 18 years old.
The difference between Sleepy Joe and "a fine and brilliant young man."
He is only the candidate because of DEI. It would be discrimination to disqualify him based on his advanced age. Damn DEI.
Indeed
We already TRIED electing a president who was a year younger than Trump is right now and even then, it SUCKED! Thank goodness there's no reason we ever have to make that stupid, bone headed, silly mistake ever again...
The objection to Biden was his infirmity and obvious mental degradation. People were saying he had early onset dementia in 2019. Trump has neither of these issues. He can stand and talk for hours. He was shot and got back up. He's healthy.
So you've never actually listened to one of his speeches then have you? He can't maintain a train of thought and usually doesn't finish a sentence before going off track and never finishing. He fell asleep at his own trial. He is absolutely too old and does all the things they accused Biden of. Biden was too old, so is Trump.
Hmmm...
Trump is old but he's got all his marbles. Sorry. You just don't like him and want him to lose which is fine.
If "all" his marbles is about half a normal set, sure, I guess he has all the marbles he started with....
Clearly a student of Sun Tzu
I think considering Donald Trump to have any significant degree of intelligence or political acumen is an overestimation. The Cult of the GOP is a concern and I am worried about how many people have cast aside all sense of empathy and humanity in favor of supporting Trump, but the man himself is little more than a demagogue with a recognizable name.
You're right he's super dumb and not a threat at all. It's only his handlers.
my grandad can stand and talk for hours, that doesn't mean his ramblings would make any sense, or that he could run our country
Actually you're right. Don't worry about Trump. He's senile and doesn't stand a chance. Kamala totally has it in the bag.
Do you get paid in rubles per stupid comment you make? If so, you’re doing well. Better than fighting on the front lines eh?
You're misunderstanding his point.
He didn't say Trump didn't have a chance, he said Trump shouldnt have a chance. Huge difference.
Shark battery stable genius. Go 🌻🌻🌻
LOL.
You must not have actually ever listened to Trump give a speech
Jesus Fred Christ what are the photo editors doing?
Every trump article has an ever-more-close-up even-greasier horror picture of his sociopathic rapist fraud face. Man, nobody wants to see that shit!
Exactly what they should be IMO. It's an article talking about how he is too old and that photo, even from the tiny thumbnail I see, is just perfect for demonstrating that fact.
Ugh. It’s so horrible.
And, counterpoint, they use these pictures for other non-old-related topics too.
Opening the eyes of the blind
Btw, Jesus’ middle name is Harold.
Ie, hark the harold’s angels song.
trumps dad's middle name was christ so - y'know. it fits right in there.
I thought it was Hoobastank.
It's clearly ai generated
In what way does this look AI generated?
This fat bitch trying to look like Emperor Palpatine or something in this picture lol
More like angry Oogway turtle.
That's Moscow Mitch
Trump\McConnell Nutjob Turtles 2028
Reminder that he shits his adult diapers daily
Is that from old age or years of hard drug abuse? You may be off topic with your diaper fact... which is crazy to think about since he has been a serious contender in three presidential elections. 🤦♀️
there's a lot of things you can say about trump but he's actually a t-totaller afaik
Is that actually a thing lmao
There are multiple pictures of Turd sitting down where it’s painfully obvious he is wearing a diaper.
Normally there is nothing wrong with that, but he, and everyone who votes R, is a piece of shit and was mocking Biden for his age with diapers. Have never seen a photo of Biden like that.
Also, it was one of those unconfirmed by everyone in the White House and who works with Turd that he shits himself constantly.
Nah.. instead the world witnessed an old man... in action, shitting himself.
Source?
I love how you try to revise history when it was Biden, caught on camera, during a ceremony in France, who apparently shat his pants.
LOL fkin revisionists are amazing. I swear.
No one said Biden didn't have continence issues. They are saying it is obvious Trump has to wear adult diapers when he sits down, thus he is likely needing them regularly. You are so primed to either suck-off trump, or shit on biden, or both, that your reading comprehension just gets by-passed by the hair-trigger response.
Not sure if you've heard yet, but Biden's not running.
FWIW, Snopes says the claim that Biden shat his pants in France is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-invisible-chair-dday/
Thanks for this. StaySquared is too much of a chickenshit to retract his claim, I suspect.
It was all the media really cared about before. Should be their number 1 concern now. Right?
if you aint fit for working after 65+, you shouldnt be fit to be a fucking president
A single felony conviction prevents you from getting a TON of jobs...
... but apparently 34 doesn't prevent you from being president
Recruiters are finding jobs for felons with this one simple trick.
Not if people vote for you.
We have a perfect museum for Trump. It's themed around "Tolerance". He would be around his greatest heroes.
Is there a nursing home prison? Because Trump belongs in prison, and maybe his age and poor health will save some taxpayer money.
Specifically, their own homes. Both are rich enough to afford private duty nursing.
both? biden isn't running any longer (is there some sort of bot swarm happening here)
Biden still exists, you know?
You're being weirdly pedantic. Biden is still just as old as he was, so he's still too old to run. If some other octogenarian stepped up and said he'd like to run I would say he's too old too.
Welcome to Lemmy politics 🙂
I won’t say bots specifically. But yes, there is a PALPABLE tide of accounts that are just going to muster the least-bullshit reason they can find to oppose the idea of the Democrats being good or worth voting for, and repeat it relentlessly, even if the least-bullshit they can come up with doesn’t even approximate making sense. And they never shut up. They’re just sort of stuck on Biden right now because the new Harris talking points aren’t fully marshaled yet.
Have fun! Try to enjoy it. I like using them to tee up extensive explanations of what is good and right in politics, that would be weird and partisan if I just showed up and started announcing them.
HEY DID YOU KNOW BIDEN SPENT HALF A TRILLION OF AMAZON.COM’S DOLLARS ON FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE? That’s almost ten times what any other US politician has ever done, and that was back in 2009
See it’s weird if it just comes out of nowhere
Someone can still be old even if they aren't running for president. Nothing in the statement implies or relies on biden still running for president, just that he is old. He still is. It's ok to still think about people even when they aren't in the news anymore, they didn't go away.
Good observation. Wonder if they will respond.
Whew struck a nerve. Impressive
Makes sense, If 81 is too old, 78 is probably too old too. After all, Trump would be 81 during his presidency if he wins.
Democrats are not wrong.
True. Still hypocritical as fuck to not say anything about the age while they had someone running for president who was even older.
It was just the Republicans who had a problem with it. Seemed like Biden was doing fine, so why complain? Haven't you heard of this concept of giving someone a "taste of their own medicine?"
200% justified lol
No, hypocritical would be to constantly yap about their opponent's age while ignoring their own guy's age. You know, the exact thing Republicans were doing until Biden dropped out.
Is it just me, or has Newsweek been putting out a lot of content about how Trump is losing and doing poorly, despite most polls saying otherwise?
Beware this source. It's one step away from a tabloid.
It provides a false sense of security for the left even though they should still definitely be worried. The past week is reminiscent of 2016 when everyone thought Trump was a joke candidate and Hillary was going to crush him.
That's one thing to remember, troll factories don't just shove out the same piece of propaganda. They try disenfranchise, disinterest, and even guide the people they don't want to win towards candidates and policies they know will play into their hands. Kamala Harris is certainly a good candidate - for democrats. She's not likely to influence Trumpers, and a more traditional candidate might have been more popular with anyone who really was undecided. A better option might have been to appeal to times when politics wasn't as divided, and I have even joked that someone like John Kerry with Mitt Romney as VP would have been a sure win.
Kamala's a very traditional candidate, if we're talking about her record. Trump, on the other hand, is the only President in US history to've never held public office or served in the military before being elected. Very non-traditional.
It's the left who is dividing us by having the R's run a convicted felon! I don't understand how anybody doesn't understand this !!
If the voters that mattered bothered to look at records, there would be no Trumpers. Sadly, I feel it has to be shoved into their face in the most traditionally stereotypical matter. Harris might seem to be doing good, but here is how good Hillary was doing before she lost to Trump: https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html
The problem isn't on the left, it's on a weighted and loaded electoral system that favors those most likely to be susceptible to misinformation.
Anyway, since it's beside the point as Harris seems pretty set, I just hope it does not play out like Hillary versus Clinton and hope that she gets elected. This times are different, but so is the degree to which people have bubbled themselves within their social networks and the most able to discern it are those who own them, who are basically in the same league as Trump and quite capable of shoving money and influence into them.
Reddit and even Lemmy is notorious for this.
Trump this, Trump that. Trump is a pedophile. Trump has 34 felonies. Trump had sex with a pornstar. Trump called veterans losers.
Does that all matter when Trump is still polling among the American working class who felt left out from globalisation and had to compete for underfunded and limited infrastructures and resources with immigrants, who themselves are also trying to get better lives as the American working class?
Not one from these articles mention why Trump still has support: it's because those from the Rust Belt, whose jobs were outsourced, literally have nothing left to lose. They are pinning their hopes to a conman who says things that disenfranchised salt-of-the-earth wants to hear. But most of the media do not mention this. Instead, they paint these disenfranchised people as racists and ignorant. Sure, some of them are, but people who feel insecure become desperate cling to any lifeline-- even coming from a devil. So the people are tricked to vote against their own interests. But the media never mentions this. Why? Because they themselves are part of the elites who have their own economic stake. They have houses now worth ten times than what they initially bought them for, and they don't want someone further left to be elected to alleviate the housing crisis. That's why Bernie Sanders was never given a chance by the liberal Democratic Party.
And imo, and this is a hard to swallow pill, is that even normal middle class is complicit to growing right wing movement for not acknowledging the economic anxiety and disenfranchisement of the working class with constant and endemic NIMBY-ism. "Oh those poor homeless people. I want affordable housing for them but I don't want them built close to my neighbourhood because it will depreciate the value of my property." I admit, I am guilty of it. I should join protests and show solidarity with the working class but I haven't joined any in my life.
Excuse me for the rant but the corporate media is definitely trying to hoodwink the public by not mentioning the actual cause of rise of racism and bigotry, and the public is none the wiser because their only source of information is from the same corporate media who do not tell them that housing and job insecurity is what made Trump and far-right in Europe gaining votes. Here in Europe, the media and politicians acknowledge the issue of immigration and stating it's important to separate the genuine racists from those with "genuine concerns". Jeez, what might those be genuine concerns, I wonder? Is it lack of jobs and housing? How come the media and politicians never say what those actual genuine concerns are?
You can call Trump, Le Pen, Sweden Democrats, Orban, PiS, Meloni etc. racists and fascists, but if people don't have jobs and housing, does the name-calling ever matters? Gee, how come people from Rust Belt, the de-indutrialised Northern France, England and Western Sweden voted for the far-right? And here comes the Principal Skinner meme moment: nah, they're ignorant and racists. Totally not because of decades long neoliberalism and austerity, despite UN report warning that lack of public investment fuels the far-right.
Turnabout is fair play~
MAGA alone isn't enough to win. Trump has his floor, but he needs the votes beyond it who aren't as blind to his flaws. And they care that Trump portrays some facile version of "strength", but without Biden to discount it by be even older every little frailty and senile sentence can be highlighted. And he'll take it personally and sound even worse.
It was a convenient excuse but it was never a good one. It's like they're unaware that Trump and Biden are basically the same age.
He's always been too old. Biden dropping out is just his core from dating it because they at least understand the concept of "don't throw stones in glass house." Meanwhile conservatives only speak two languages - hypocrisy and fanaticism.
"don't throw stones in a glass house" bitch I've been pelting this greenhouse since before the first term.
SOME democrats like living in glass houses, walking on eggshells, and sticking to bad options.
Lol! Nature is healing.
Yes, we're very concerned.
LOL, that is a great way to frame things. Just keep beating that drum and see how the cons like it. :)
He could always drop out if this is hurting his feelings.
I mean, everyone is saying it. Everyone. Even some of the magaloons know it. Even if it's only a very tiny voice they hear only after they turn off the Faux "News", turn off the hate radio and shut off 4chan or whatever and go to tuck themselves in...they know it.
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his age?
Perfection. Bravo!
…..and I approve this message
Gobble gobble
The fascists are pikachu facing that people are fine voting for another democratic candidate after one day because they cant fathom losing their strong man candidate. In their world Dems losing Biden = loss of voters because if Trump somehow stopped running literally no one would turn out for the GOP ticket. Lesson is: one party is based on a vague platform, the other is based on a lunatic personality cult.
you hate calling trump out as old? (what is happening in these comments)
I think the thing he's likely complaining about is that Newsweek is implying that people complaining about Trump being old are being hypocrites rather than being consistent.
You're being weird, that's all I see? Biden still exists, he's still currently president, and he's still too old for the job. Dropping out of the race hasn't changed his age, he is still an octogenarian leading our country and is obviously still relevant.
Relevant to what? What decision is Biden's age supposed to influence?
He was voted to represent the nation for 4 years. Why is it an issue now and not 4 years ago?
It was also an issue 4 years ago, but being 4 years older has made it worse.
...were you not paying attention 4 years ago, when everyone constantly brought up the ages of the nominees? Or do you have severe memory loss?
Just look at that turkey gobbler! That is a sure signs of someone who is too old!
This should come as no shock. Age has been a concern since 2016.
Being old is nowhere near the worst problem with Trump.
Bush Jr, Trump, and Slick Willy Clinton were all born in 1946. In 1946, Tupperware and Bikinis were invented. Also, the year HG Wells died. He was born in 1866.
In fact, both Clinton and Dubya are younger than Trump. Only by months, but still. Clinton's been out of office for 24 years and Dubya for 16.
Yeah, but he's also too old.
I definitely think there is a case of Goose/Gander here. If Biden was too old, and got run out of office by opportunistic media jerks happy to harp on his age day after day, attacking things he's done his entire adult life as if it shows he's one foot in the grave, then by god, the Media should jump all over Trump for the same problems. This is our way of saying "Hey, if Biden was too old at 81, then so is Trump at 78, especially with 59 year old Harris in the mix. Where are you, Media?"
Well I was calling Trump too old and Biden too old to be running for eight years now but that's not the point is it?
Doesn't matter if he's too damn old when economic anxiety runs rampant in the American voting public.
#2Old2Run
Tbf everyone was calling biden too old as well. You know trump is just three years younger then joe?
It is a team sport
Age was only part of it, the biggest part was that Biden was noticeably mentally degraded for years.
It wasn't the age, it was the cognitive decline. The sort of cognitive decline that makes it difficult for a person to form coherent sentences, and absorb new information, answer questions instead of falling back to talking points. It wasn't that he had been getting worse for years, it's that it's this bad now, imagine what it will be like in 4.5 years.
Conservative Americans deserve a better candidate than Trump.
I do want someone better than trump, but there has not been a good candidate in my lifetime (I am in my 40s), so I am not going to hold my breath that one of the two teams will give us someone good.