It's like one of those idiots came up with this stupid idea and now none of the other morons can call this out because they would have to admit that they are watching porn.
Yeah, but a lot of conservatives, and by extension fascists, are extremely hypocritical on the surface, except they like to use "hypocrisy" as a tool against their opponents, and by "hypocrisy", I mean not following the strawman version of your ideology. I personally call this as "rulebending", they're manipulating their opponents rules to be even higher and thus choking them with it.
On a deeper level they just want a lot of power, which includes them being above the law, as long as they're loyal to the dictator/king. If project 2025 succeeds, expect one of them getting caught on live with real CP, maybe even raping a child, then will just go "so what? I can do this, you are not allowed to!".
Thanks for the enlightening framing. When they’re rounding up people they don’t like we should tell them it’s ok, it’s been worse
Nobody fucking cares. This isn’t some academic exercise to rank crazy times. This is the very real political strategy of a party about to take power in the US. This view from nowhere shit is so exhausting.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
In this case, the law being freedom of speech, the protection being to say what they want and the binding being to prohibit others from curtailing that. Naturally, the push for inclusive language is part of a movement to curtail that freedom and needs to be reversed and pushed back against.
No because every conservative either doesn’t know about it or pretends it isn’t as bad as it is, which they rationalize by making sure not to look at it too closely.
"It only hurts the people I don't like" and "I would be exempt from this".
I have no idea why any immigrant or Hispanic would want this. He's directly targeting all of them. There are no exceptions, there's no points you get. This is his stated platform
I woke up much sooner than when they ate my face. It was when they stripped a "supposed foreigner" of their company. The proof of them being a foreigner were having "stein" in their name, a "suspicious nose not common among real Hungarians", not being religious, and supporting liberalism.
I'm a disabled person, who voted Fidesz in 2010, and my face got eaten by the leopards. Due to the nature of my disability, I won't receive any help, I'm barred from driving cars thus barred from many local jobs. Those who can are re-examined every few years, and even amputees are body-searched sometimes for "tied-up limbs", and are preferred to instead seek some job which is specifically made for the disabled, which thanks to local version of ableism, is largely something specialized for the intellectually disabled, and the job descriptions often read like they were lifted from those godawful ableist jokes.
Devout Christianity is a common reason. Specifically, the kind that believes abortion is murder and is the number 1 topic that can supersede all others. If one candidate vows to outlaw it and the other vows to protect it, the conservative Christian brainwashing machine gets these out-groups to vote against all of their interests to "protect babies".
Taxes is another I hear. People actually beleive Republicans are fiscally responsible and going to help these out-groups, many of whom are lower middle class, get ahead by reducing tax. Ignore the part where reducing everyone's taxes increases everyone's gains, increasing everyone's budget, and therefore not actually increasing anyone's purchasing power because the market will adjust sales price higher.
Obviously, this works on the majority demographics too. But they're closer to the in-group than who you asked about
Literally just yesterday I posted about it in my family’s political group chat and my older sister said, and I quote:
“even though I lean left, I'm actually glad that conservatives have a playbook! Why? because Trump's first term presidential transition (2017) was totally bungled... he needs a list of people that he can appoint from, so that these agencies don't just fall apart… Don't kid yourself, Biden's team and Obama's team and the democrats overall definitely have their own playbook and their list of potential appointees. They just don't have to crowdsource theirs!”
One member got upset that we were discussing politics in the family group chat so much in 2020 (read: we were bashing Donald Trump and his fucking idiocy too much) and insisted we move the conversation elsewhere
I’m feeling confident that the 4 year break gave him and the actually smart people funding him and giving him ideas more time to come up with efficient plans
Ok ok ok....the porn is going too far and we all know that you all will be the ones suffering..so you need to work on your blatant lies.. Your own president paid to sleep with a porn star for heaven's sake
I pray to you Jeebus, Buddha, Allah, Satan, Giant sketti monster....PLZ HALP. I mean your own as in the Republican party's president.. sorry for the funky wording teddy brosavelt
I'm not a capitalist but glad the free market regularly aligns with DEI. Thought the company I work at would back off a bit to the news coverage of outraged hysterics but they've doubled down.
Is this a joke? The only reason the “free market” pretended to align with DEI in the first place was for regulations and public relations purposes. The capitalist class has never and will never give a fuck about DEI. You know that HR departments are not our friends, right? Their job is to execute the will of the capitalist class upon the working class.
Any law that you see that you think "Wow, no way they can enforce that! That would get EVERYBODY in trouble" is a law that is intended to be selectively enforced against unwanted people
Yes because I know what they mean because I have heard them explain the problem. You guys on the other hand dont know what they believe because you dont know anything about them.
If something is against "national interest" and your president is trying to become an autocrat, that means they can essentially pick and choose what national interest is. This should be setting off alarm bells in EVERYONE'S head as an obvious grab for power.
I'm not american, so I don't have direct skin in the game, but everyone on both sides of the political spectrum who don't self identify as fascist should be against this.
If you don't interpret this as something extremely dangerous, you need to have a sit down and really think about the implications.
So the issue is that this is not what they are referring to. What they are talking about is when the FBI (and CIA) get involved in politics or directly sway things in direction that is outside of what the FBI is for.
In Hungary, state institutions like the police of the tax bureau only target people and companies outside of Fidesz'es interest group. That's what they want to adapt, so every company will fall in line with Project 2025.
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I’ve never seen something as unhinged as Project 2025. I mean it, it sounds like a shitty “evil plan” cooked on 4chan, but it’s fucking real. Insane.
It’s not just real it’s their actual political strategy. This isn’t fringe shit, this is what they will do when they take office.
Conservatives consume tons of porn. They just feel guilt about it afterwards.
It's like one of those idiots came up with this stupid idea and now none of the other morons can call this out because they would have to admit that they are watching porn.
Like the emperor's new clothes but in politics.
They feel guilty about it and lash out on other people to make themselves feel better about it.
More like they think everyone should feel guilt about it
Yeah, but a lot of conservatives, and by extension fascists, are extremely hypocritical on the surface, except they like to use "hypocrisy" as a tool against their opponents, and by "hypocrisy", I mean not following the strawman version of your ideology. I personally call this as "rulebending", they're manipulating their opponents rules to be even higher and thus choking them with it.
On a deeper level they just want a lot of power, which includes them being above the law, as long as they're loyal to the dictator/king. If project 2025 succeeds, expect one of them getting caught on live with real CP, maybe even raping a child, then will just go "so what? I can do this, you are not allowed to!".
If we're talking about American politics in our lifetime, yeah this is tops. But it's not history's craziest politics by a long shot
Hear that everyone, it could be worse
Thanks for the enlightening framing. When they’re rounding up people they don’t like we should tell them it’s ok, it’s been worse
Nobody fucking cares. This isn’t some academic exercise to rank crazy times. This is the very real political strategy of a party about to take power in the US. This view from nowhere shit is so exhausting.
You mistake me: I think it's so bad people should leave if they can, or revolt en masse. I just also like talking about history.
Read the room
I have. Are you going to leave if you can or revolt en masse?
Yes my family and I fly out next week
I left three years ago. I saw all this coming, though I still do the voting bit. Sorry it's come to this.
I didn't know there was a book adaptation of that movie
Anyway, how’s your sex life?
Better than my septem life, that's for sure
Project 2025 wants to:
www.defeatproject2025.org breaks it down by topic, also highly suggest John Oliver's segment on it
Well, they've already made progress on point 4
And two
And one! Texas and shit taking first steps by requiring state id verification.
That’s how they do things, just enough to get the foot in the door, move the goalposts and repeat
Dictatorship ftw
Delete terms that deprive of first amendment rights.
Bit of an oxymoron isn't it?
For fascists, freedom of speech equals saying slurs.
In this case, the law being freedom of speech, the protection being to say what they want and the binding being to prohibit others from curtailing that. Naturally, the push for inclusive language is part of a movement to curtail that freedom and needs to be reversed and pushed back against.
That's called doublespeak
Without the oxy
No because every conservative either doesn’t know about it or pretends it isn’t as bad as it is, which they rationalize by making sure not to look at it too closely.
"It only hurts the people I don't like" and "I would be exempt from this".
I have no idea why any immigrant or Hispanic would want this. He's directly targeting all of them. There are no exceptions, there's no points you get. This is his stated platform
I never thought the leopard would eat my face!
But I was one of the good ones!
I woke up much sooner than when they ate my face. It was when they stripped a "supposed foreigner" of their company. The proof of them being a foreigner were having "stein" in their name, a "suspicious nose not common among real Hungarians", not being religious, and supporting liberalism.
I have a gay friend that loves Trump, I tried to explain this to him but he got mad at me
I'm a disabled person, who voted Fidesz in 2010, and my face got eaten by the leopards. Due to the nature of my disability, I won't receive any help, I'm barred from driving cars thus barred from many local jobs. Those who can are re-examined every few years, and even amputees are body-searched sometimes for "tied-up limbs", and are preferred to instead seek some job which is specifically made for the disabled, which thanks to local version of ableism, is largely something specialized for the intellectually disabled, and the job descriptions often read like they were lifted from those godawful ableist jokes.
Devout Christianity is a common reason. Specifically, the kind that believes abortion is murder and is the number 1 topic that can supersede all others. If one candidate vows to outlaw it and the other vows to protect it, the conservative Christian brainwashing machine gets these out-groups to vote against all of their interests to "protect babies".
Taxes is another I hear. People actually beleive Republicans are fiscally responsible and going to help these out-groups, many of whom are lower middle class, get ahead by reducing tax. Ignore the part where reducing everyone's taxes increases everyone's gains, increasing everyone's budget, and therefore not actually increasing anyone's purchasing power because the market will adjust sales price higher.
Obviously, this works on the majority demographics too. But they're closer to the in-group than who you asked about
We are so fucked
Literally just yesterday I posted about it in my family’s political group chat and my older sister said, and I quote:
“even though I lean left, I'm actually glad that conservatives have a playbook! Why? because Trump's first term presidential transition (2017) was totally bungled... he needs a list of people that he can appoint from, so that these agencies don't just fall apart… Don't kid yourself, Biden's team and Obama's team and the democrats overall definitely have their own playbook and their list of potential appointees. They just don't have to crowdsource theirs!”
cue insane Charlie Kelly screams
Narrator: She did not actually lean left, but instead very far right.
She just likes weed.
One member got upset that we were discussing politics in the family group chat so much in 2020 (read: we were bashing Donald Trump and his fucking idiocy too much) and insisted we move the conversation elsewhere
would it be better to have two trump terms, back to back, or to make a biden sandwich and have a break between the terms?
i worry that if trump comes back from the dead he might do crazier shit than if he was just re-elected and kept eating mcdonalds at the white house.
no way to know for sure, unless whoever built the universe made two copies just to test this out
I’m feeling confident that the 4 year break gave him and the actually smart people funding him and giving him ideas more time to come up with efficient plans
Ok ok ok....the porn is going too far and we all know that you all will be the ones suffering..so you need to work on your blatant lies.. Your own president paid to sleep with a porn star for heaven's sake
He's not our president anymore! Yet!
I pray to you Jeebus, Buddha, Allah, Satan, Giant sketti monster....PLZ HALP. I mean your own as in the Republican party's president.. sorry for the funky wording teddy brosavelt
but biden said umm. i can't tell the difference /s
I'm not a capitalist but glad the free market regularly aligns with DEI. Thought the company I work at would back off a bit to the news coverage of outraged hysterics but they've doubled down.
Is this a joke? The only reason the “free market” pretended to align with DEI in the first place was for regulations and public relations purposes. The capitalist class has never and will never give a fuck about DEI. You know that HR departments are not our friends, right? Their job is to execute the will of the capitalist class upon the working class.
The free market doesnt align with DEI, its forced by corporations and organizations that are backed up by the government.
Thats funny, I was born and raised in Portland and now it sucks due to the type of policies people like you advocate for.
Let me get this straight the conservatives in Oregon (which have no power) forced through legistlation... Sure thing bro!
Why would it be bad to terminate investigations that are unlawful or contrary to national interests?
Because "contarary to national interests" means "any investigation that targets friends of mine"
At first I naively thought "why is that a bad thing?", but then realized who exactly decides what these "national interests" are?
Definitely using some "weasel words" in their policy to get away with some shady shit.
Any law that you see that you think "Wow, no way they can enforce that! That would get EVERYBODY in trouble" is a law that is intended to be selectively enforced against unwanted people
That could be how you would mean it, but that is not how I interpret it or how they intended it.
You're new to planet earth, it seems.
If you believe that, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
You guys literally just claim things without any evidence... You guys have lost to plot
Yes because I know what they mean because I have heard them explain the problem. You guys on the other hand dont know what they believe because you dont know anything about them.
If something is against "national interest" and your president is trying to become an autocrat, that means they can essentially pick and choose what national interest is. This should be setting off alarm bells in EVERYONE'S head as an obvious grab for power.
I'm not american, so I don't have direct skin in the game, but everyone on both sides of the political spectrum who don't self identify as fascist should be against this.
If you don't interpret this as something extremely dangerous, you need to have a sit down and really think about the implications.
So the issue is that this is not what they are referring to. What they are talking about is when the FBI (and CIA) get involved in politics or directly sway things in direction that is outside of what the FBI is for.
This is literally why the FBI & CIA exist.
They exist for personal gain of organizations inside of the US to use to their sole benefit?
In Hungary, state institutions like the police of the tax bureau only target people and companies outside of Fidesz'es interest group. That's what they want to adapt, so every company will fall in line with Project 2025.
You are just making up their intentions based on nothing.
The Heritage Foundation not only helped Orbán into power, but also learned a lot from their playbook.
How did the Heritage Foundation significantly help Orban?