Name a single feature you’d like to see in a Switch 2
This is a weird one, but I’d love to see a reimplementation of the sensor bar. The gyro controls haven’t cut it for me. I like how the Wii U game pad had the sensor bar built in to the bezel. The real engineering nightmare would be squeezing IR cameras into the top of the Joycon
Backwards compatability. Getting the 3DS has really made me appreciate how many games I can play on the system since I can play 3DS/DS/GBA games all natively. Whatever Nintendo does with the Switch 2, it should be backwards compatible with the Switch so that I can continue playing my favorite Switch games without having to wait for a port.
Switch 2 not being backwards compatible will unfortunately be a deal breakers for me and I’ve owned every Nintendo console/handheld they have made.
Getting a Steam deck and immediately having access to every game in my steam library is a huge deal and made me realize it’s a must for a switch 2.
I created a Mii on my switch that I used in the switch sports game. Apparently not many people realized that as my character was hilarious and everyone else had the standard models.
Yes, Mii exists on Switch but are hidden so not used that much, while it was the first thing you have to do on a Wii or a 3DS (yet another wonderful piece of hardware). You really can see no-one care in the Mario Kart lobby. Everyone use default one because I'm sure no-one really know where to create them (I mean, the Settings is a place very few peoples actually goes in). Sad. If an application (with an icon) would have exists, it would have change a little.
My only complait is to not having them used inside games. I loved Mii statues in Mario Kart Wii, or seing them driving cars.
But maybe I should simply admit no-one care about avatars in 2023. On Wii, your Miis stands inside your Wii instance. With Internet peoples create crazy/scary/disturbing (yet wonderful) Miis, but you don't have any value having simple, normal, Miis.
On 3DS you could meet Miis while moving around (I was in a big city and there were many peoples using that feature). I loved this, but I suspect it create a privacy problems : When I moved to a tiny city, I identified the only little girl with this feature and could see it's games. So while digging into anonymous gaming life was awesome and unproblematic, I feel very weird in my second place, and disable the feature.
Miis are something from the past, but man, it was so much better than tiny icons that are actually used nowhere (Smash Ultimate is a few exception, but it's used in few sub menus while I expect it to be show when combat starts).
Backwards compatibility with switch 1 cartridge support.
Without this would be a massive slap in all player's faces.
This is honestly the biggest thing. I'd add Nintendo account support with the ability to bring over digital purchases to the new system.
If they do those two things I will buy the next system no matter what other things they do with it.
Without this, I wouldn't even bother getting one.
@Coud I would think from a storage perspective it shouldn’t be an issue. The cartridges should be able to hold 10x the storage of an average Switch game, so should be plenty for a next gen console.
Backwards Compatibility. I want this so much so that if the Switch 2 isn't backwards compatible, I'm very unlikely to buy one.
I'd go as far as making a dedicated emulator box with high end graphics just to avoid buying it.
Not sure if this counts as a feature, but; more expensive base hardware, less expensive peripherals. I'd legitimately pay like $400 for a top of the line handheld system as long as I could buy a second pair of controllers for less than $50.
I legitimately haven't touched my Switch in like 3 years because of controller drift, and I just can't bring myself to pay $80 for something that seems like it should cost $40. So my PS5 and XSX have pulled my attention away completely.
TotK nearly convinced me to jump back in, but I ultimately decided against it since it didn't seem worth $150 to resume playing the Switch.
Contact customer service and ask for a repair. Nintendo got mass sued a couple years ago over the poor quality of the Joycons, and now has to repair drift for free even if the warranty period is up. I am not sure whether this applies to all parts of the world (I live n Germany), but I personally sent my Joycons to repair four times since buying the system (last one was in January) and always got a joke invoice for zero Euro from them. Only thing I had to actually pay for was postal service.
Even if they decline ....asking doesn't hurt and might be worth a shot.
I agree that the joycons suck. On the upside, I replaced the sticks on both of mine for approximately $20 with parts on Amazon. Came with the screwdrivers and everything. Each one took about 20 minutes. I’m not forgiving Nintendo for making bad controllers, but being so easy to repair for so cheap… it’s worth doing it yourself just so you can play TotK.
Piggybacking on this comment to say you can get hall effect joysticks for barely more than standard ones!
Got a link to those? I preemptively bought some sticks 2 years ago or so and I'm finally getting drift on my launch day joycons.
If I can buy Hall effect sticks and do this just once I'll buy those.
Sure thing!
https://a.co/d/2Ndy9j1
This kit came with the screw drivers you need and even some replacement screws if you lose any. The instructions weren't super clear, but there are tons of tutorials on taking apart joycons on youtube.
Awesome thanks. Purchased. I'll be happy to do the repair just once.
They do need to fix the damn controllers, but even if they didn’t drift the sticker are so tiny and it’s not a comfortable controller at all.
I just use then when I need them (for Switch sports, for exemple) but everything else is 8bitdo controllers and the pro controller, which are so much better.
You can replace them yourself for less than 30
I shouldn't have to do their work for them
Absolutely the right attitude. Great they are repairable but ffs hall effect sensors are here and should be the industry standard across the board, not just singling out Nintendo. Crappy build quality for controllers is not something consumers should accept in 2023.
True, although my gripe is on the principality that they could charge $10 for the replacement parts and still make a nice profit. Even when handling each brand's controllers with the utmost care, I'll end up spending $60-$90 in replacement parts for a joycon before I need to replace an Xbox controller, and to add insult to injury, the Xbox controller costs less than a Joycon!
I only have 3rd party controllers, a dobe grip for handheld, and a ds4 for docked.
Get one of these bad boys:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004299310687.html
Can be used on multiple platforms and will neve drift due to hall effect sensors.
They are on Amazon for faster shipping but I get the feeling you'd rather save the $20. I think they are at Target too but ymmv.
For me it'd be analogue triggers. I think a scroll wheel could also be cool and unique controller input.
A scroll wheel could definitely help with totk nav. Especially if clicking it would allow you to navigate to the next page of items.
User replaceable battery. Just like the DS, little cover with a screw. Makes it so much easier to keep old hardware working well.
YES to this
Also sad to say this, but better folder system would make me happy on top of that
I don't need gimmicks. Better controllers, more comparable specs. Backwards compatible with current switch. I think I may be at a breaking point with exclusive hardware. I have enough games to play and I may stop moving forward if i can't bring my games with me
Integrated voice chat, or even better, Discord support like PS and Xbox are doing.
Haven't seen this mentioned yet, but I want to be able to put my save files on the SD card, not just games. I have crappy rural internet, so backing up save flies to the cloud is painful.
It's infuriating there is no real way to back up switch saves at all without a subscription. It's a portable console which is even more likely to have issues than a traditional one, I already had mine stolen once and lost everything. Now I just play on Yuzu and I can backup whatever I want.
I would like to see a much better home firmware than horizon. Compared to the 3ds and the wiiu horizon is severely lacking.
All are severely lacking compared to previous implementations .
Ontop of this Nintendo online still sucks and I'd love to see it improved once and for all. I'd love to see servers for Nintendo games instead of them relying on peer to peer.
Wireless Dock for dual screen gaming. Make it easier to port those ds, 3ds, and wii u games. I love having inventory and maps more readily accessible.
Sounds like a latency nightmare.
They did a good job with Wii U’s latency. The only thing that was shit was its range, which wouldn’t be a big deal because you’d only want to stream to the TV if you were in the same room as it. Ideally it’d be a dock that you can physically put the console in or stream to it.
Wireless transmission latency is good enough for pc players connecting to oculus headsets. Besides, if this is just a wishlist, I would hope that nintendo keeps traditional docking as well if you are playing a latency critical game or want to use a pro controller instead of the console itself as the controller.
That’d be amazing, like a reverse Wii U
I loved my wii u and was disappointed when the tablet screen didn't get used. If it was more successful (as the switch has been and hopefully how the switch 2 will be) then it probably would have been better utilized.
The Wii U Gamepad was originally planned to be the "map" part: https://youtu.be/SECWlFInyFM?t=42 .... so yes, it definitely would have been utilized better.
button that spawns a hotdog because it would be tasty
you wouldn’t download a hotdog!!!
Next to basically everything that has been mentioned before (most notably backwards compatibility for games and the combination of handheld and docked), I would love it if the controllers would be backwards compatible as well. My joy-cons have the dreaded drift, but it would be nice if I can keep using my pro controller.
Reading these comments, I think the opinion of the community is that Nintendo got a lot of things right. Keep those, but just update it. Meaning more powerful and more reliable hardware.
The games are great, let us keep playing them and the new ones on the same system.
The option to choose and switch between handheld and docked is amazing. Both this and the previous point are what helps Nintendo set itself apart from the competition. Keep or even build on that.
Record videos longer than 30 seconds, and for ALL games. As it is now, the Switch can only record the last 30 seconds of gameplay (which, in itself, is really cool because it works retroactively) and if you want to make longer videos, you either need to record consecutive clips and edit them on a different device, or you need a capture card. And it only works for some games to begin with - The Witcher 3 for example does not support that feature. You can take screenshots, but no videos.
HDR and/or 3D display
It would be cool for the 3D display tech to get an improved implementation on the Switch, but whether it's worth it will depend on how much cost it adds to the system and how much it lowers the resolution. I did enjoy its use on the 3DS, but I often play the Switch in docked mode and I'm not sure I'd like to pay extra for its inclusion on the Switch 2.
Other than the obligatory backwards compatibility (I think if Nintendo screws this up again it would REALLY show in sales numbers), I would love the already paywall'd multiplayer feature to be somewhat useable on the next console (MM2's multiplayer mode for example is like a bad joke on the switch).
My number 1, must have feature is for the system to be portable. Hopefully that goes without saying.
If I was to ask for a new feature, it would be some sort of off the wall, possibly stupid gimmick. The WiiU tablet controller, despite being a total flop commercially, spawned some really cool, asymmetric games. Nintendo is at their best when they are being creative with their hardware. They can make up for a lack of pure computing power by providing experiences that you could not have on any other system.
I do love me some unique hardware experiences, but I hate that it’s inherently difficult to port them. There are a lot of wonderful games that have been stranded on consoles like the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U.
Backwards compatibility is the big one, especially cloud saves. I'd settle for native Switch 1 performance as long as every Switch 1 game worked properly.
Yeah, backwards compatibility is the single most important switch successor feature for me.
Since it's a Switch 2, so I am assuming it's already a hybrid system like Switch (handheld + docked) and has backward compatibility.
Other than that, I really want a messaging and party system with voice chat. Make playing multiplayer games easier.
Ooh, not locking multiplayer behind a paywall so I can play multiplayer games somewhere other than just on PC!
Ooh ooh, controllers that actually work!
Ooh ooh ooh, no more artificial scarcity, like making more than 12 total physical copies of games and not arbitrarily removing games from sale digitally!
I try to always get my Nintendo games physically as I really enjoy the collecting part of it
Joysticks that don't have drift issues.
A much smaller bezel. It's so big on my original Switch, and the screen could be so much larger and prettier if it went nearly to the edges, without making the console larger at all.
This is half the reason I upgraded to the OLED. the bezels on the OLED is what the switch should always have had.
Is it glorious?
Love it. The colours are both brighter and darker, the screen is bigger, the speakers louder, the stand actually usable.
Trophies/Achievements!
It's such a simple concept and it increases engagement when they are well implemented. I'd love to play the next Zelda and try to get all achievements. Also I love Steam's achievement rarity, it makes me feel like a pro knowing that i'm one of the 1% that got some random achievement.
It adds to the overall experience.
I guess this is kind of cheating since Nvidia software engineers have already shown that it's a supported feature set of the t239 soc, but cameras + Nvidias AI camera/video feed analysis features enabled by tensor cores.
Combined with the accelerometer/gyro nintendos already been using since wii, this.... this can enable some serious shit.
Motion control Drift would be ridiculously real time mitigated, to the extent it might become completely inconsequential even over hours of play, as it can turn basically whatever static objects it sees into reference points, which can be used to auto correct and null drift from the accelerometers missing axis. The main one undoubtedly being the big rectangle with 4 corners that is the TV itself.
Assuming a camera is put in the joycon(s) again, Effectively pointer controls would be back, on steroids, as in 3d spatial accurate, with no need for a sensor bar (any fixed structure in the room)
If you are playing handheld, it can use eye tracking to let you aim by looking.....
Return of 3ds augmented reality stuff, except completely nuts in capability compared to what the 3ds could do.....
And considering it's original use case as a feature for an automotive gpu, who KNOWS what bonkers nonsense they could do with that neat but ridiculously niche Mario kart RC peripheal thing now.
I have multiple..
This is all I can think of right now.
I honestly do not need a different new system. I just want something better than the current Switch in terms of performance.
For me it’s backwards compatibility with the Switch. I wouldn’t upgrade if I couldn’t play BOTW or TOTK on it. After that just more powerful graphics so I don’t get stutters in some games.
1080p handheld/4K on TV
WiFi AX, Gigabit Ethernet on the dock, andATMOS Surround support or bust.Would be obsolete off the batt to me without.There's three features I know but, I stand.But the cruddy 5.1 support on a nice setup is one of the reasons I don't really fully enjoy sound effects/scores when playing on my TV.
Even on headphones the Audio still feels dated.
But maybe it's me, being a technophile/audiophile. 🤔
I use my Switch 99.9% of the time undocked, and would love an OLED Switch Lite 2. That, and hall sensing sticks.
Twilight Princess remastered!
A link to the past remastered!
Backwards compatibility
GameCube games! Can I get melee with online support please.
I'd like the sensor bar too. Rail shooters just do not feel the same trying it with gyro, since the positioning is off relative to the screen without a reference point. Sensor bar made it more like using those arcade light guns.
please have a headphone jack. idk if this is something we need to actually worry about...but i really dislike that newer phones keep omitting the headphone jack. bluetooth just isn't the same!
I'd like it to be modern. Up to date specs that can have games that look good, rather than releasing dated hardware at launch.
I'd like a console only version without a screen, like how the PSVita had the Vita TV. I have no interest in a portable Nintendo, I only play docked.
The ability to play old games on it. Switch games at the very least, but similar to wanting a console only version, add a disc tray and let me play GCN and Wii.
The unfortunate thing for your desires is that portability is the reason the Switch has been so successful, and is also the reason it doesn't have "modern" specs. I'm sure the next system will be much more powerful, but I'm also sure it won't even be near the power of the PS5 or XSX because I am 100% sure it will still be a console that can be played on the go.
Thankfully as home consoles have much more transparently become purpose-built PCs using variations on off the shelf hardware, ratcheting down graphics to function on a lower power system isn't nearly as hard as it used to be.
It sounds like you basically just don't want a switch. The reason the switch has done so well is because of the portability and ability to easily dock and "switch" between modes. If you want a traditional console, that has a disk tray, and tons of power, you should consider a playstation or xbox. Additionally I am very supportive of backwards compatibility but at this point, the GCN would be 4 generations (going to be 25 years on switch 2 release) back and having to put in hardware to be backwards compatible that far back I think is unreasonable.
Pretty much, I don't want a Switch. But I'm required to have one to play Nintendo games legally. Considering how little I play my Switch I think I'm just going to wait and see how emulation for Switch 2 goes.
Well that's part of their value prop, their games. Clearly it's working as it got you to purchase a switch when you don't really like the concept.
Yeah but it's solidified that I won't be doing it again. Switch emulation is brilliant, with another underpowered Switch console I don't doubt emulation will be easy.
I always thought having some sort of eGPU in the dock would be nice. Enough to let it run games at higher resolution and frame rates on a large screen.
No idea how feasible that would actually be though.
Backgrounds/Themes
I’d love for the Dock itself to be way shorter, and not go up the entire height of the console. AKA I’m tired of my Switch screen getting scratched every damn time it goes in or out of the dock.
This was a brilliant idea my wife had. She sewed this little cloth sleeve to slide over it to prevent screen scratches.
Backward compatibility isn't just for replaying old games. It's so that I can also play all the Switch games I haven't played yet, on newer hardware. Or for people new to Nintendo, who haven't bought the Switch can play all the games released on the system too.
I want an easily-exploited OS for CFW.
I don't think we'll ever have anything like the switch V1, it's not just very easy but also has crazy possibilities, I use Android on mine all the time, and it works perfectly like it isn't even a hack, even seamlessly booting from one to another system, Nintendo will probably be a lot more careful next time, we'll probably have cfw in the next one but I think it's gonna take a long time and won't be nowhere good as switch is
GameCube games on Nintendo Switch Online.
The ability to use another console as a controller for game menus and asymmetrical gameplay.
I just miss the 3DS.
But the right joy-con already has a IR-Camera.
…On the bottom. One on the top that can work in tandem with some sort of sensor bar would have to be squeezed in above the R and ZR buttons.