'We have no rights.' Frustrated with California wage laws, Moonstone Bistro in Redding cuts lunch service
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If your business can't survive without paying slave wages then your business shouldn't survive.
They got a PPP loan.
but the question is. Did they use the PPP loan like they were supposed to?
because so many of those PPP loans just ended up being free money for owners/executives and the bottom rung workers who needed it most didnt see a dime.
If you want to use a quote to make a point about equalitariansm maybe don't pick one from a guy who threw 200,000 Americans into concentration camps
Much better
And they don't get that it's not the regulations demanding fair wages that are the enemy. It's low wages and high costs for their potential customers that is killing their business.
Also why is their voice so fucking amplified. Like why are we forced to hear their whiny bitching about how they have to pay a marginally better wage to their employees. ABC just went out of their way to find one annoying prick and gave them a platform to spew their procapitalist garbage. And if you have ever eaten at a place like this, the food is the most generic bland shit imaginable. These are the pricks who are complaining, exactly the kinda entitled fuckers you would expect.
Yep.
Plenty of places are thriving with higher minimum wage.
This restaurant crying this hard isnt because they cant afford the wages. Its that owners grew fat on the exploitation, and will now have to slim their excess to pay proper, fair wages.
Right, that's what Entrepreneurship is. You take the big risks for the potential for big rewards. If you're not earning enough after paying all the bills, maybe your business model isn't viable.
They sound so entitled. Too bad they’re not profitable enough to hire a PR consultant because his statement was horrible.
Imagine being such a dumbass that you can't figure out how to make your business look superficially good and sell it to some schmuck or load it up with debt and bail. Employers have the game completely rigged in their favor, they just have to know how to play the game. It's shocking that someone who decided living in Redding was a good idea would be so stupid.
If he's not getting paid enough working for himself, he should go work for someone who pays better and offers all those breaks and overtime.
They don't even take big risks. The company does. If they fund the company themselves rather than get an investment or a loan, they are just bad at the job. If the company fails, then the worst thing that happens to an entrepreneur is that they have to find a real job like the rest of us.
I suspect that the same someone who approved that sign also designed it themselves to save a buck and then later had a meltdown about their lack of employer rights.
Get fucked.
If your company can't pay a living wage, it doesn't deserve to exist.
Does Lemmy have a !RemindMe bot yet? Because I give these entitled assholes 6 months.
They're just whiney Karens.
You, in fact, do not have a right to other people's labor at your preferred price, dipshit.
Awe does the poor wittle business owner want another handout?
Get fucked and go bankrupt fucking parasite.
The statement from them is rich.
Boo-fucking-hoo. Just do it and don’t grandstand about it, nobody fucking cares how hard you think it is to be upper middle class.
I rolled my eyes the entire article. These entitled twats!
I'm definitely not upper-middle-class, but I have attempted to run a one-man business before. I used semantics to dodge certain state licensing requirements (I was a "consultant" instead of a "technician") which would have cost me more than 50% of my annual profit. The state definitely adds a lot of nonsense costs to running a business that do little more than protect existing businesses from new competition and discourage lower-income people from attempting to start businesses of their own.
Yeah, so they should be complaining about that. People would support them. Not complain about workers making more money and sounding like entitled brats.
OH GOD, WE CAN'T EXPLOIT THE LABOR ANYMORE. WOE IS US. PLEASE GOD SHOW SOME SYMPATHY FOR OUR GREAT BURDEN OF NOT BEING ABLE TO EXPLOIT THE DESPERATE ANYMORE!
lolll it's a fine dining restaurant too. nothing worse than making dozens of meals per hour that each cost far more than you make per hour
I bet rent takes a bigger chunk out of their business compared to wages, but you never hear these types complain about their landlord.
In Redding? No chance. Labor is usually about 30% of gross sales, about the same as COGS (ingredients). Recommended rent and associated fees are in the 6-10% range of gross sales. I don't imagine Redding has sky high rents like an urban center.
— Che Stedman
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— Che Stedman
Well Che. It looks like if you did stop working a Taco Bell will replace you. So your jobs disappear, correct, but it absolutely opens it up for someone else to move in. Also, the reason Taco Bell requires zero experience is because they have sat there for the last umpteen years streamlining their process which came at a non-zero cost.
Innovate Che. That's the name of the game. Being an entrepreneur means thinking fast on your feet and having to adapt to a landscape that is tilted against you. Yes, the big players have had decades to consolidate their power and create a business world that makes breaking into the Restaurant business near impossible. Join the crowd of Ma and Pa gas stations, grocery stores, computer shops, and so on that the lack of enforcing anti-competitive laws has wrought.
— Che Stedman
No, Che you seem to be missing the point. The problem is the folks you need to compete with having unfair advantage and you wanted to undervalue peoples' work to play your advantage. What this law is doing is removing that from the play book of ANY company altogether. Seeing how that was your ONLY play in your playbook, you are out of "innovation" that other companies still have three billion more plays to try. Your beef is mostly with the big boys getting unfair advantage.
But we cannot carve out an except for you because, aforementioned big boys have also abused their position to make the cost of living insane. As opposed to trying to argue your old play maybe… petition your local government to tell fast food chains to leave? So long as there are Taco Bells that can fall back on their parent company Yum Brands, small business and the everyday man will never win.
That's the really cool thing. In an actual free market, paying that $20/hr doesn't hurt you. Even better, in an actual free market, we don't even need the $20/hr to keep our heads above water.
— Che Stedman
No Che. You're correct that your don't feel like you are exploiting people. However, paying people less than a living wage is just that. However, you aren't the one setting that cost of living and that's the bigger point here. You're upset that your current game plan is no longer valid, but you're so salty that you don't want to come up with a better game plan. Us small people, we feel this every day. Not having control, watching shadowy conglomerates dictate our day to day lives, and what not. It's so ingrain at this point, I'm having trouble articulating all the ways we're being screwed by large businesses much in the same way I'd have difficulty explaining what breathing actually feels like.
Che the thing is, that pain, that sting in your heart. You're just now feeling it. I know buddy. Hell someone decided that some generation was killing off diamonds and Applebee's so mutual feels on that having someone tell you that you are the reason for something.
So I guess best I can tell you Che is that, grab you a pitchfork and join the crowd who want the billionaires of this planet to stop making this world shitty. I mean I don't know really. It just seems like its always going down the shitter every fifteen seconds. I've been on this train going down so long, I couldn't possibly know which direction is up at this point.
But pay your people a living wage, that's core. Post that, start fighting for lowering that cost. Stop trying to cling to your old playbook of under paying people. You're not looking entrepreneurial. Oh and also.
— Che Stedman
Buddy, that's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and sometimes a Sunday for us. If you're just now getting upset about being told that… I mean, you can come over and I'll give you a cookie. It helps my mood. But definitely not my waistline.
Most other countries pay their servers a decent wage and don't make them rely on tips to survive and those countries have a shit ton of great restaurants that I've eaten at.
California does
Not even with the new wage laws is their pay decent for this state.
I guess my point was it's not 2.17
So close.…
What a bunch of entitled bullshit. I look forward to his businesses failure.
Redding is as close to not California as it comes. They can fuck off to Jefferson, or oreida or whatever they want to call it.
But please send the owner of Mom's restaurant somewhere more friendly when you do?
The restaurant across the street just doubled their business. That’s capitalism.
No, that's Free Market. Capitalism is what this restaurant is doing to its workers.
People like this think that it’s a right to own a business lmao. If you’re unprofitable, fuck off then.
I mean the difference between them and they employees is that they can sell their restaurant when they want to quit at a good profit while their employees have to leave with only the clothes on their back.
Why would they be cutting service, they dont even need these employees if the owners are doing all the work.
Rich asshole bad at business, good at getting whiny complaints broadcasted to public.
These owners are pathetic. They need to quit being bums and get some fucking jobs!
Aww poor baby
Not every restaurant survived then, either. If you got rid of franchises, you still wouldn't be getting rid of everyone who wants to run a restaurant. People will still choose one over another and the one people aren't choosing to patronize will go under.
Just because it's independent doesn't mean the owner isn't just as greedy. Remember: every major corporation started off as a small, independent business. No business starts off as a megacorp.
I've lived through the same conditions myself, but I still have the advantage of being able to look at history and see that from 1955 when it started until the 80's, the average McDonald's franchise worker still was paid a living wage for their respective time periods.
The problem isn't the model of business. It's the greed of the people who run the business. The only laws necessary to fix this problem are keeping minimum wage up with inflation and the cost of living. If $16/hour isn't a living wage (such as it is in California), the minimum needs to be higher. If the business can not provide that, they can not afford the cost of doing business and deserve to go out of business.
The wage problem is not caused by the franchise model. It's not even exclusive to franchised businesses; it's practically every single business across all sectors. From retail and customer service, to tech and medical care positions. If they're not compelled to pay you enough to survive, they won't. The libertarian idea that businesses will self-regulate is a delusion that doesn't happen in reality. They must be compelled through law to be safe and fair or they're just going to do whatever they can get away with.