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The endless battle to banish the world’s most notorious stalker website

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To the ones down-voting this comment.

People keep piling up on the EFF without reading that article.

Once an ISP indicates it’s willing to police content by blocking traffic, more pressure from other quarters will follow, and they won’t all share your views or values. For example, an ISP, under pressure from the attorney general of a state that bans abortions, might decide to interfere with traffic to a site that raises money to help people get abortions, or provides information about self-managed abortions. Having set a precedent in one context, it is very difficult for an ISP to deny it in another, especially when even considering the request takes skill and nuance. We all know how lousy big user-facing platforms like Facebook are at content moderation—and that’s with significant resources. Tier 1 ISPs don’t have the ability or the incentive to build content evaluation teams that are even as effective as those of the giant platforms who know far more about their end users and yet still engage in harmful censorship.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it

The EFF supports prosecuting Kiwi Farms, they are just opposed to the dangerous precedent an ISP block sets.

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Best app to learn programming these days?

You're not going to learn much from a phone app. Specially programming.

"Learning apps" are mostly gamified gimmicks. If you never learned programming, you need a good book explaining the concepts of what you're trying to learn, a computer, a project, and the internet to search when you get stuck.

I know it's the boring answer, but this is one of those skills that it's basically a lot of tinkering, exploration, and nose to the grindstone.

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Could you please read the whole article before commenting?

It’s incredibly easy for an ISP to point out that they’re not going to block a network for a different reason by pointing out it’s… not the same reason.

No offense, but don't pursue a law degree, that's not how things work in the real world. The EFF has a long history of fighting these sorts of things in court, they have enough experienced people to know what they are talking about.

A state has enough leverage to push around an ISP to comply, and the ISP gains nothing in opposing.

The EFF deserves to be roundly condemned for this, especially as it has no obvious alternative.

There is. People can be prosecuted individually. This has happened in the past without ISPs blocking whole websites.

The position is intellectually dishonest unless you’re actually pro-killing-transgender people.

Speaking of fallacies...

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No offense, but keep your patronizing “Anyone who disagrees with me could only have just heard of this article I just skimmed, and not been discussing it in depth for the last week” bullshit out of my replies.

So, the EFF has 33 years of experience fighting in courts on matters of digital rights, and somehow you feel like you know both the current law and the legal consequences of court precedents better than them?

Based on how composed you've been in this comment section, I'm going to assume the EFF has been around longer than you have.