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I thought we were talking about their use in private conversations in which the people being mocked are not the other person in those private conversations. So you mean like, if you're alone with a person who has intentionally harmed people without concern, those are the situations in which you'd use such terms to mock the person to whom you're speaking? I can't imagine that would matter to them. Idk, am I misunderstanding you?

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Why are you defending him if you don't know the true extent of his crimes?

I never defended him or any abusive people in this thread. My qualms have always been with your word-choice. Including labeling people as pedophiles or "pedophile defenders" as insults to dismiss them. It's hurtful and harmful. It's wrong to attack people like that and also to conflate "pedophile" with "child-predator" or "child-rapist". I refuse to hate people for immutable traits like that.

Yet I see that on fedi every time I browse it. It's been bothering me for weeks and today was the day I randomly decided to say something about it. Unlike my meme posts, I didn't make a structured post about it. It's hard to care what people think of me sometimes because I see so many of you as hateful to your core (at least that's what comes across to me). I've spent lots of time trying to be thoughtful in my responses to people in various threads, trying to get people to understand that bodyshaming is unhelpful and not nice, while trying not to seem like the stereotype they're bound to ignore. Ditto the topics discussed in my own threads about computer/tech stuff. I do tend to try to choose my words carefully and take my time responding to everything as thoughtfully as possible.

This thread was different, partially because I feel like I'm in the presence of people who should be more able to understand and be more likely to be agreeable than the one with the bodyshaming stuff, while knowing that it's likely to feel like shouting at a wall. People follow the numbers, what they perceive to be majority opinions, and most people don't care to rock the boat about things. My view of most people on this platform was already so low that I realized I lose nothing at all by saying whatever feels right in this moment. I'm kinda surprised anyone agreed with me at all, based on my own experiences and what I've seen of this place over the years.

It's not that I enjoy talking about these subjects

I think you do. I think you like to be provocative with what you say and how you say it because you want to get a rise out of people and stoke conversations about it whenever possible. That is what I see of you in this thread. Nothing I say has mattered to you at all. We both have mentioned that we do not value each other's opinions and yet you persist because you like to do so.

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At least I can be entertaining to strangers who neither understand nor care about me. Feel free to see the other hills upon which I've died in those "controversial" linux meme posts. I don't like muting myself for the benefit of others. I've done that for years. Fuck the world. This place should not be the toxic hate-filled violence-obsessed hell that it is.

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Being cognizant of different biases in how society treats AFAB and AMAB isn't a negative thing.

What I'm talking about is how you seem to look down on AMAB people in general, based on how and what you say about AMAB people.

Statutory rape is rape.

Insisting on leaving out the statutory part when introducing a topic is deliberately misleading to your audience.

Countering someone who points that out by calling them names and suggesting that they're either a rapist or rape victim is bullying.

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An outspoken queer feminist is not going to gel well with that demographic all of the time.

As a trans girl, I'm aware. But I also get to see subtle jabs at AMAB people, like one of your comments in this thread.

You not understanding that there are many different types of rape doesn't make me dishonest.

You're dishonest for informing people about statutory rape without calling it that or sharing the details, which makes it seem significantly worse. And I know you know that.

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I haven't done that, and you know it.

You definitely do not make for a more diverse community by being so hateful and deceptive. I do remember seeing you get lots of hate in another thread a few weeks ago, and some of it did seem justified, as I see in this thread. I don't remember the details, but I did know going into this thread that you would likely respond as you did.

But I did give you a chance to correct yourself and move on. When you didn't, it caused me to continue making the points which you continue to ignore and pretend do not exist.

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I haven't done that, and you know it. You definitely do not make for a more diverse community by being so hateful and deceptive. I do remember seeing you get lots of hate in another thread a few weeks ago, and some of it did seem justified, as I see in this thread. I don't remember the details, but I did know going into this thread that you would likely respond as you did. But I did give you a chance to correct yourself and move on. When you didn't, it caused me to continue making the points which you continue to ignore and pretend do not exist.

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You most certainly are doing so because of our disagreement on the use of these terms and you're infinite doubling-down on dishonest language. As you just did, of course.

I guess it's worked as you probably had hoped, garnering lots of activity on this thread. I find it especially interesting that you claimed you're "working on making the fediverse more diverse." lol