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Blahaj Lemmy Users - Downvote question

I love that we have the fidelity here to implement things like "downvotes are at 0.2x power" and stuff like that! That sounds cool, should totally try that out and see how it ends up feeling. I think people would ultimately be OK with a near-zero-power downvote, if that ends up negatively affecting conversations too much.

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Let your old self go

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Same! The early transition comics are crazy, she tells her wife and then they have a second kid together! (The trans stuff starts about here btw)

Honestly it's artistically remarkable to see a woman articulate the progression of her transition in this like, 00s-era Penny-Arcade webcomic art style.

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Countries that use pr vs fptp

(Being pedantic here) A couple US states technically use proportional representation in the apportionment of electors in a presidential election (Nebraska and Maine), although it's of course dubious if an elector actually counts as a representative, given how ephemeral they are.

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What is a third person honerific for nonbinary individuals?

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Yeah I'm not really starkly in favour of a removal or anything, just pitching that as my opinion :)

That said, I think it's super possible to provide good service to people without honorifics! Making people feel respected is more than just saying a specific word a bunch of times, like maybe you're getting a positive result out of customers just because saying those honorifics put you into the frame of mind of being nice to them and taking them seriously.

IMO it's entirely possible to talk super fancy with a dozen "sir"s or whatever and be intensely rude (look up British MPs insulting each other as a potential example). Conversely I think it's possible to be extremely hospitable with rustic, informal language. Singular particles are not really the end of language, it's the greater action and meaning that matter way more.

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Can we get downvotes enabled?

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I don't think it really matters either way whether there's downvotes or not,

but I super want to point out that you do not need to get into random debates with people who are just breaking the rules of a community/instance and being bigoted. The correct response is to report and ignore.

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What is a third person honerific for nonbinary individuals?

While I don't think there is an obvious drop-in replacement yet, I'm sure some consensus will eventually happen (as has been forming for the use of "Mx./Mixes" for the Mr/Ms dichotomy).

Honestly though? I think honorifics are not a strictly necessary part of language. Like day-to-day I usually do...

  1. For getting the attention of a person you don't know the name of, consider "excuse me" or "pardon" in formal/service contexts and "hey!" or "hello!" in more informal ones
  2. For speaking to someone authoritatively (i.e. "Ma'am, you are now charged with..." or "Sir, you will have to leave the Wendy's") you can just omit the honorific entirely and replace it with some other polite particle (like "Sorry," or "I'm afraid that...")
  3. For speaking to someone who has authority over you ("Sir, with all due respect...") you could address them by the title that confers that authority, or simply omit any honorifics and address them in a more peer-to-peer fashion.

Ultimately honorifics fill a more antiquated role of recognizing and placing yourself in a hierarchy, either below or above the other person, and maybe that's not a good thing. For example, using them often is a lot of the (perhaps unnecessary) emotional labour of service jobs. So if we're altering our language then perhaps just shifting away from them is the correct way forward. That's just my opinion though :)

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OKAY I didn't read through much of it so I wasn't sure if either of those were ever addressed!

It's almost unreliable narration the way Liz is presented, I'm sure that was super tough for her but what's shown in comic is ultimately just the positive stuff. Maybe that's for tone reasons but, yeah, definitely leaves an incomplete picture, made more incomplete by her not posting for long periods 😅