@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.

There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.

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@MicroWave
There is a huge bot issue right now (started 3 days ago). All the numbers are worthless.

It’s a known issue, all admins should add captcha to the subscription page, delete the bots and re-compute the actual number of users. Unless we do that, we won’t have a correct number.

We can still look at the Monthly Active Users. Bots don’t post (yet)

@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.

Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.

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@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.

Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.

@2014MU69 @MicroWave
Lemmy’s first big bot campaign, yay.

Bots only target successful platforms and mastodon has survived many bot campaigns, so I’m not too worried by this. But let’s give a hug to our admins. When all those accounts start spamming, they’ll need to do a lot of mitigation. Especially if the bots come from many different domains. (and also because lemmy moderation tools are not great)

@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about "replace", but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.

We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website

@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.

A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.

You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.

Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.

Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.

The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.

@OtakuAltair
You are under the yoke of at least three benevolent dictators.

Your home instance admin can deactivate your account for whatever reason (read the rules.)

The mod teams from the community you post into can ban you from the community for whatever reason (read the rules)

The admin that is hosting the community can remotely block you for whatever reason (read the rules)

I cannot answer the question about cats and dogs because I don’t make the rules.

@MicroWave
Yes, when your server is getting swarmed in spam, you first fediblock (or at least limit, when limit is supported like on mastodon).

Then you ask the admin of the instance what’s going on. You can also help them clean up the bots.

Then you can federate again once you’re 100% sure the bots are gone.

When the number of bots is high compared to the number of users, that’s even more reasons to block fast

@kbinMeta
@10A
Considering the issue about tankies on some lemmy instances, I think we understand how much left is too far left. And what you describe as "woke" isn’t it.

@uthredii Hopefully they consider kbin. Mastodon has already enough client support.

@ValueSubtracted
Instance users are only local users.
Community users include remote users who remotely subscribed to the community.

So the community users will always be higher than the number of instance users.

And it still doesn’t count lurkers like we who reply to a thread without subscribing.

@cedarmesa @c2h6
Diaspora is one of the oldest of the oldest. Much older than mastodon. They’re federated too, but not on the same network.

Mastodon and lemmy uses ActivityPub. (Mastodon used to run on OStatus, but then switched to ActivituPub later) Diaspora uses its own protocol and refuses to ever switch to a most recent one.

Some fediverse services however (friendica and hubzilla which are kinda facebook-like) are using multiple protocols and can federate with both mastodon and diaspora.

@slicedcheesegremlin
Mastodon users have the option to opt-out of search engines indexing by adding tags to their post hat are readable by web crawlers.

So you might not find everything from mastodon, but for a reddit-like it makes sense to be indexed.

@le_saucisson_masque
Lorsque tu postes sur lemmy, il y au moins trois dictateurs bienveillants qui peuvent te censurer.

L’admin de là où t’as créé ton compte.

Le modo de la communauté où tu as posté.

L’admin de là où se trouve ta communauté.

Je suppose que les admins de là où se trouve les lecteurs peuvent te masquer, mais ça changera pas grand chose pour 95% du reste du réseau ça n’affectera qu’un nombre réduit de lecteurs qui se trouve sur ce server en particulier.

@gumchain @Bilbo_Hobbit
Pour moi l’intérêt principal, c’est d’esquiver les loi anti-monopoles et de se préparer à l’EU Digital Markets Act qui impose "l’interopérabilité" aux géants du numérique. On parle surtout des chats instantannés, mais ça pourrait aussi concerner les réseaux sociaux.

L’autre intérêt c’est que les réseaux sociaux ont une date d’expiration. Facebook se fait ringardiser par insta qui se fait ringardiser par tiktok, donc c’est normal d’expérimenter de nouvelles choses

@aka_quant_noir @Bicyclejohn

Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!

Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.

@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.

And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of ![email protected] decided to migrate the community to ![email protected] and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle

@thegiddystitcher @RedirectedPotato
Another con: You become an admin/moderator and have to keep up to date with the latest bad servers to defederate from and you’ll have to deal with all kind of bad posts yourself instead of relying on a moderation team.