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Mods of !news are now banning people for criticizing the MBFC bot?

Let's review some of these bans, as called out by [email protected]:

https://lemm.ee/post/40926293/14446156

https://imgur.com/YSoJbgs

From the top:

[email protected] https://imgur.com/4XsXuOC

Quote: "LW admin/mod team seem to have this overbearing and weird belief that they need to tell everyone else what to think and how to think it. How about... you all just fuck off and don't?

Result: Permaban

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[email protected] https://imgur.com/LIye27F

Quote: "All rights are won through violence, child. Bans on here means less than the nothing platitudes you utter"

Result: 15 day ban

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[email protected] https://imgur.com/ONGdgNo

Quote: [the quote is really long, pls dont make me type it and just look at the link lol]

Result: 15 day ban

Note: the comment precedes the ban by 26 days, but catloaf's recent comment history contains opinions critical of the LW News mod team

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[email protected] https://imgur.com/q2kktNQ

Quote: "Damn what a shame, guy almost stopped being a moderator on an internet forum, would have been a grave tragedy"

Result: Permaban

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[email protected] https://imgur.com/ZCRtuJe

Stormesp's profile at lemm.ee: https://lemm.ee/u/stormesp

Quote: [there were no comments removed in the modlog, but stormesp's recent comment history contains opinions critical of the LW News mod team, read them yourself]

Result: 15 day ban

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[email protected] https://imgur.com/YwIMSOq

Quotes: [multiple quotes, there are a lot, check out the link]

Result: 15 day ban

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Summary

Most interestingly here is that the two users who got permabanned didn't use slurs and didn't call for violence, they merely insulted the moderator team. I guess in the LW News mod team's eyes, that's a horrible, terrible, awful, unforgivable offense, so.......... PERMABAN.

Aniki literally is saying "words are useless, let's resort to violence" but that's a 15 day ban only, OK, makes sense, right????????

Catloaf and Stormesp were actively leaving comments sparring with the moderator team in that thread. To be honest, none of what I'm seeing in these comment seems worthy of a ban. Unless of course, you're a LW mod and you go "this guy is disagreeing with me, therefore they deserve a ban."

Edit: I forgot to write about MindTraveller since that guy was a last minute addition. But look at those aggressive comments, guy deserves a ban for sure.

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Conclusion

Not a good look. Does LW want to grow into a good Reddit alternative or do they just want to turn it into Reddit for themselves only?

LW can at least come clean about this and say "yes, the rest of you can get fucked" or maybe they will have a moment of realization at some point "oh my god, are we the baddies?"

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A comment I left for the LW Admin team

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I’m not sure why that’s such a difficult concept for some people.

Point taken, but come on, you should know why it is difficult.

This is a pie chart of the community distribution:

https://lemmy.ca/post/26878531

Notice which ones have the biggest shares? World, .ml, and Hexbear - three of possibly the shittest instances on Fedi at the moment.

Unfortunately until communities outside of LW become more lively, if most people are looking for drive-by discussion, they will find it at LW. For now.

In order to change that, we can all chip in to start livening up communities outside LW, like Blaze seems to be doing.

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[Meme] Maybe the discussion will be different this time compared to the ten others? (Edit: obligate, not mandate)

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Nah, thats offensive saying only white people care about animals when in reality veganism is found all around the world. Black people in the United States are the fastest growing vegan demographic in that country.

Oh my god, tell us all you don't know how to read without telling us you don't know how to read. Seriously, what the actual fuck are you even talking about, and who are you even talking to?

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A quick note on the return2ozma ban:

@[email protected]

It's really disappointing to see you constantly delete comments you perceive as rude or uncivil with extreme vigilance but then be stupid enough to allow bad faith posters like return2ozma repeatedly try to control political narratives for months on end. I'm really tired of seeing your name in the Modlog policing politeness but then sleeping on issues like this. Anyone with half a brain could have recognized ozma's dishonesty a long time ago.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for the mess you've allowed to propagate for an extended period of time, you ought to consider extending the 30 day ban to a permanent one, and you have to be better moving forward.

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