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I see these MFs on a daily basis

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Agreed. Just put Debian on a 17" i7 Asus laptop tonight as win11 didn't like the track pad or the display adapter.

To get Chrome on, had to download a deb file, then manually open it with a right click and choose software installer since it wanted to open an archive instead.

Just little things like that are tedious for the n00b.