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Yeah, and the things that I've noticed as being broken are actively being worked on (you can just look at the GitHub commits and code reviews and follow along since it's open source)
To account for muscle memory, I just created a folder where Reddit used to be, and made Lemmy the first entry. Good way to test multiple apps regularly.
The muscle memory is so bad. I had to hide RedReader after I found myself subconsciously opening it over and over again. The toilet breaks are not the same...
I won't be deleting it yet, they've got the accessibility exception for now.
Same, it's been hard it's like I'm in rehab. But in a way it's great too. I've been doing other stuff. Like started learning to make video edit with Davinci. For all the Apex gameplay footages I've stored over the years.
I think this is what Lemmy and other Fediverse sites need - a really good mobile app. once that happens, I think Lemmy, kbin, etc will start really attracting users.
It got much better with the two recent updates. Images still sometimes spaz out when you scroll, and for whatever reason searching for communities doesn't seem to work right. But for reading, commenting, etc it's totally usable.
I had to remove the Joey app from my home screen and replace it with the Jerboa app (as in, put it in the same spot) because I kept accidentally opening Joey. -.-
Yeah, I always like to check Reddit just before I go to sleep, to get sleepy, or when I can't sleep. Or when I'm waiting for something and there's nothing else to do to pass the time at that moment. So I'll automatically open Joey and....well, I guess that's the end of that.
I still have joey on mine as a reminder of the shitshow that is reddit. I haven't touched it once since switching as I have been going to jeroba so often it's already a reflex lol!
Joey didn't do anything wrong. I will always keep the app, never use it again, but keep it because it's mine and I bought that freaking thing.
I know what you mean! I know it's gonna be gone soon yet I don't think I'm going to want to delete it. I bought it,I enjoyed it, and if all of this mess had not happened I would still continue to use and enjoy it. Sigh. :-\
Yeah, Joey was perfect. It felt sad when they sent the little survey to ask if people would pay a subscription to use the app and I was like ... No, but not because of you, because of them.
I was so surprised to learn few people knew about Joey. When I found Joey I was just looking for a popular app with high ratings through the Play Store and I never even questioned that Joey was one of the most popular apps.
It's too bad so few people knew about it because it's one of the best Reddit apps I've used and I would've loved to continue using it.
I have been using Infinity, which somehow is NOT planning on shutting down?? Yeah, I don't see how that's gonna work. Doesn't matter, Reddit under Spaz is dead to me now.
Does this app rely on ios 16 or does it work with 15 or lower as well? I'm really interested if I could test this on my 7 Plus, although I use an Android primarily
I will be targeting iOS 15. Also, I'm preparing an Android build now. I wasn't originally going to target Android at all, but I may as well since it's all just one codebase with minor modifications for either OS.
How are you targeting both iOS and Android with minor changes, considering the different languages and operating system APIs and environments? Something like React Native?
Not a mobile developer, but still a developer, so I'm quite interested...
thank you!! I have an iPhone SE (2016) and Mlem only targeting iOS 16+ above means no app for me – I appreciate you supporting those of us on older devices.
It’s really sad, but it’s also super exciting to be a part of something new! All of this reminds me of the old school internet with competitors and communities popping up here and there.
I didn’t realize how toxic and hostile Reddit actually was until I stopped using it and started interacting with the folks on here. I just hope it sticks around
I'm also a rif user. Best thing was have my face subs and get notifications on new post so I don't have to interact with reddit as much. See the post. Comment upvote read send boom in good. Lenny is awesome now
Although all this immature development is making me consider taking a stab at programming Social Networks again. Last effort was an app back in College to collate facebook, twitter, reddit, etc into one interface. Very clunky, held together by proverbial tape and crashed when there were non latin characters input. Still, that was fun.
Yeah. Basically the proto-official app. Apollo was (allegedly) inspire by AlienBlue, but I’m not sure if that’s just a rumor or not. People called it the spiritual successor during Apollo’s whole run.
It is and it was my go-to app for iOS. I was very excited when it got bought by Reddit because it was a really good app, but it slowly turned into shit over time. It didn't respect my subreddit subscriptions and it eventually showed more ads.
I didn't notice at first, but I decided to try out Apollo because people pointed out what's happening to the official app (formerly Alien Blue). I immediately felt the difference, so I uninstalled the official app. It's crazy how Reddit was able to turn it into an ad-fest sneakily.
I feel badly because I preferred the native app. I tried several 3P apps including Apollo but I never could get into it. I'm still here instead of Reddit because I don't like the changes but i any case I feel a bit of guilt around it
Life is too short to feel guilt over app preferences. And anyone who purposefully tries to make you feel guilty should go out and touch grass (as the youth say).
Apollo for lemmy would be great, and it wouldn't be too hard for Christian to rewrite it to work with lemmy. Heck, people have written proxies which proxy the reddit oauth API to lemmy, so it would be as easy as running one of those proxies and replacing a URL, really.
Do we have any news on if any of the popular 3rd Party developers are planning to make Lemmy apps? How interchangeable is the code? Will it be a case of starting from absolute scratch?
I heard the Reddit is Fun dev is planning on either joining a project or doing a new one for Lemmy. I heard it here somewhere so I don’t know much other than that
I'm on Jerboa right now and not unhappy with it, but if the rif developer gets involved in something else I'd definitely check it out. I used rif for many years.
I use it with lemmy.world. Its promising, it still has a lot of crashes and some kinks that need to be ironed out and there are many features missing, but IIRC the team intends to come out with the 1.0 version by the time 3rd party apps shut down. That will probably feel more stable. Its looking good!!
@nope it wasn’t necessarily that I wanted a 3rd Party Client, I just enjoyed Twitter through Twitterific as it had features I liked. But… as time went on Twitter toxicity was impossible to escape, almost like walking on eggshells. Eventually just using it to argue and defend myself, so I’m actually quite happy with the alternative. I follow artists through their major avenues since most aren’t on here. I’m just not actively commenting on those platforms or posting my content anymore.
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Don’t be sad it’s gone, be happy that it happened :)
Same thing I said to my friend after a burglar stole his xbox
Hows the Xbox?
Pretty fun, thanks for asking.
Stolen
This is such a Reddit comment
Quoting from Morrowind: Maybe young folks like you should try some new ideas. I don't know. Could be messy. But change is never pretty.
We might miss some things from Reddit but the platform wasn't getting any better. It's an opportunity for a change that could be for the better.
!unexpectedmorrowind
Deleted my account, deleted the app! My thumb keeps looking for it on my phone, though. Poor little thumb, probably misses his old simpsons shitposts
The thumb thing is real. It's like muscle memory every time I unlock my phone.
Sync is/was a fantastic app. One of the best designed and functioning Android apps I've used. Damn shame.
The Sync dev has stated that Sync for Lemmy might become a thing one day, so there's good news on that front.
I'd pay for that
Lets hope so ✌✌
I just replaced Sync with Jerboa.
Same here, decent enough start for the app so far
Yeah, and the things that I've noticed as being broken are actively being worked on (you can just look at the GitHub commits and code reviews and follow along since it's open source)
Agreed. I deleted Boost off of my phone, and because it's early in the alphabet I'd open my App Drawer most times to get to it
Now I just muscle-memory open my calculator and look disappointed.
Yep sync is truly incredible, The fluidity of the app was truly something else
To account for muscle memory, I just created a folder where Reddit used to be, and made Lemmy the first entry. Good way to test multiple apps regularly.
You mean we don't have simpson shitposting here? https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E03/QF76_L_CplCQuXur7Rqpj-nesvU=.gif
We do now! Simpsons shitposts-
but now we need futurama shitposts!
Good news, everyone !
I'm ashamed with myself that I fell for it :(
I made my own, with blackjack and hookers, actually without the blackjack or the hookers, just the community.
[email protected]
The muscle memory is so bad. I had to hide RedReader after I found myself subconsciously opening it over and over again. The toilet breaks are not the same...
I won't be deleting it yet, they've got the accessibility exception for now.
Same, it's been hard it's like I'm in rehab. But in a way it's great too. I've been doing other stuff. Like started learning to make video edit with Davinci. For all the Apex gameplay footages I've stored over the years.
RiF golden platinum for me.
But the dev of RiF says he intends to make a Lemmy is Fun (or was it Tildes?) app once RiF shuts down, so at least it's not a bad thing after all.
It should be called "Lemmy is more fun"
Lemmy is Funny
Same here, can't wait for lemmy is fun!
I think this is what Lemmy and other Fediverse sites need - a really good mobile app. once that happens, I think Lemmy, kbin, etc will start really attracting users.
ngl Jerboa isn't that bad.
It got much better with the two recent updates. Images still sometimes spaz out when you scroll, and for whatever reason searching for communities doesn't seem to work right. But for reading, commenting, etc it's totally usable.
Where did you see that? It seems that he wanted to do a Tildes app, he talked about Lemmy?
Same. I will gladly give the dev money again for a premium product like RiF golden plat.
I'm enjoying jerboa, but I would totally pay for the RiF premium experience. It kept me happy for so many years. Hope for both to succeed.
Add Sync for Reddit to that list :(
It perfect. I will wait sync for lemmy
Really hope LJ goes on and makes the app for this!
Jerboa is a nice replacement for now, but I love the way sync was set up. That said, with time Jerboa could become feature rich. And options is key!
Agreed! We can all only go up from here!
Fingers crossed. I miss it terribly! What a wonderfully made app
I had to remove the Joey app from my home screen and replace it with the Jerboa app (as in, put it in the same spot) because I kept accidentally opening Joey. -.-
Yeah, I had the same issue. Maybe, just maybe, I had a small addiction and Lemmy does not help too much with that.
Yeah, I always like to check Reddit just before I go to sleep, to get sleepy, or when I can't sleep. Or when I'm waiting for something and there's nothing else to do to pass the time at that moment. So I'll automatically open Joey and....well, I guess that's the end of that.
I still have joey on mine as a reminder of the shitshow that is reddit. I haven't touched it once since switching as I have been going to jeroba so often it's already a reflex lol! Joey didn't do anything wrong. I will always keep the app, never use it again, but keep it because it's mine and I bought that freaking thing.
I know what you mean! I know it's gonna be gone soon yet I don't think I'm going to want to delete it. I bought it,I enjoyed it, and if all of this mess had not happened I would still continue to use and enjoy it. Sigh. :-\
I loved the Joey App 😒
Oh man I love Joey. So good!
Yeah, Joey was perfect. It felt sad when they sent the little survey to ask if people would pay a subscription to use the app and I was like ... No, but not because of you, because of them.
It was so good and very few people knew about it, sad :(
I think it was just one developer doing all the work too
I was so surprised to learn few people knew about Joey. When I found Joey I was just looking for a popular app with high ratings through the Play Store and I never even questioned that Joey was one of the most popular apps.
It's too bad so few people knew about it because it's one of the best Reddit apps I've used and I would've loved to continue using it.
There's not even a hide read option in the Official Redit app. Fk u reddit
They wouldn't want you to curate how many posts you have to scroll past to get to the real content. More scrolling equals more and impressions.
Yep that's one of my most wanted features from the lemmy app
Lemmy has this feature
On jerboa?
Yes look account setting
I'm gonna check and see if it's on jeroba, if not hope they add it.
I have been using Infinity, which somehow is NOT planning on shutting down?? Yeah, I don't see how that's gonna work. Doesn't matter, Reddit under Spaz is dead to me now.
Ive heard some rumors that it is possible to fake the app ID and/or useragent to make reddit servers think youre using their app.
I hope he will try that route just to fuck with them.
Sounds like a short term solution, but it's worth it just to cause Spaz some grief.
I did see something about that in the ReVanced subreddit and the Sync app.
Yeah, I used Infinity too. Deleted my reddit account yesterday and uninstalled Infinity today.
I hope the Infinity developer finds a job..
Ye, last time I've they're looking for a junior software dev position
I'll miss Infinity. Jerboa just isn't ad (edit: as) intuitive as Infinity, as nice as it is.
Yeah, I hope they make a version for Lemmy
I uninstalled Slide For Reddit and put jerboa in the same place
I haven’t seen many people that used slide. That was my go to on android.
https://imgur.com/a/cSXMq3R 😎
And more https://streamable.com/ghekth
Will you be submitting this to TestFlight?
I have just submitted a build to TestFlight! I'll let you know when it gets approved.
Does this app rely on ios 16 or does it work with 15 or lower as well? I'm really interested if I could test this on my 7 Plus, although I use an Android primarily
I will be targeting iOS 15. Also, I'm preparing an Android build now. I wasn't originally going to target Android at all, but I may as well since it's all just one codebase with minor modifications for either OS.
How are you targeting both iOS and Android with minor changes, considering the different languages and operating system APIs and environments? Something like React Native?
Not a mobile developer, but still a developer, so I'm quite interested...
Yea, using React Native. Generally you can do 80-90% of things all with the same code. Flutter and .NET MAUI are other options as well.
thank you!! I have an iPhone SE (2016) and Mlem only targeting iOS 16+ above means no app for me – I appreciate you supporting those of us on older devices.
No problem! There isn't anything majorly different between the two API wise for something like this anyway.
So I guess it's not a native app?
Yes, it is.
wow, that sounds so cool!
Looking forward to this also!
I’d love to try this out!
I'd also be interested in checking it out, if you're looking for testers!
I'll be giving out the link once it gets approved. I believe it's up to 10k testers, so won't be any issue getting it to everyone :)
Awesome, would love to check it out too.
Come on in! https://testflight.apple.com/join/6jaRU6rD
Definitely looking forward to this.
Indeed. Give it time and Lemmy and kbin will have some excellent alternatives.
Please also let me know when it hits TestFlight. This looks dope!
Available now! https://github.com/gkasdorf/memmy/discussions/13 https://testflight.apple.com/join/6jaRU6rD
Thank you!
Personally a Reddit is Fun user, but sad to see them all go...
It’s really sad, but it’s also super exciting to be a part of something new! All of this reminds me of the old school internet with competitors and communities popping up here and there.
I didn’t realize how toxic and hostile Reddit actually was until I stopped using it and started interacting with the folks on here. I just hope it sticks around
RiP RiF
I'm also a rif user. Best thing was have my face subs and get notifications on new post so I don't have to interact with reddit as much. See the post. Comment upvote read send boom in good. Lenny is awesome now
Still need that alert function on the app.
Although all this immature development is making me consider taking a stab at programming Social Networks again. Last effort was an app back in College to collate facebook, twitter, reddit, etc into one interface. Very clunky, held together by proverbial tape and crashed when there were non latin characters input. Still, that was fun.
More new apps will eventually come
Now show me app hell
>its just the base reddit app
And my bank's app.
And my Printer(HP Smart), my ISP Modem(S**w Bl****rve), Amazon Alexa, Google Home, Amazon Kindle and most IOT apps in general.
Alien Blue is the pre-enshittification official Reddit app right?
Yeah. Basically the proto-official app. Apollo was (allegedly) inspire by AlienBlue, but I’m not sure if that’s just a rumor or not. People called it the spiritual successor during Apollo’s whole run.
It is and it was my go-to app for iOS. I was very excited when it got bought by Reddit because it was a really good app, but it slowly turned into shit over time. It didn't respect my subreddit subscriptions and it eventually showed more ads.
I didn't notice at first, but I decided to try out Apollo because people pointed out what's happening to the official app (formerly Alien Blue). I immediately felt the difference, so I uninstalled the official app. It's crazy how Reddit was able to turn it into an ad-fest sneakily.
The reddit official app also eat battery, that why i switch a few years back to apollo.
Needs the official reddit app in App Hell. Along with several million other apps...
Yeah but that would require actually downloading it, so nah.
Better not have an App Hell on your phone!
I feel badly because I preferred the native app. I tried several 3P apps including Apollo but I never could get into it. I'm still here instead of Reddit because I don't like the changes but i any case I feel a bit of guilt around it
I hereby order you to stop feeling guilty!
Life is too short to feel guilt over app preferences. And anyone who purposefully tries to make you feel guilty should go out and touch grass (as the youth say).
You damn youth, go touch somebody else's grass!
touch. Touch. TOUCHTOUCHTOUCH!
“Dang kids! Get off my lawn!”
But... This is a public park!
I am truly hoping Christian or u/lupeski come here and show their awesome talent off in the Fediverse!
Apollo for lemmy would be great, and it wouldn't be too hard for Christian to rewrite it to work with lemmy. Heck, people have written proxies which proxy the reddit oauth API to lemmy, so it would be as easy as running one of those proxies and replacing a URL, really.
The difference in data models and APIs, combined with the amount of features Apollo supported would likely make it a fairly large task.
But that aside, he mentioned in an article recently that he doesn’t have an appetite to pivot the app towards Lemmy or another third party: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-private-apollo-christian-selig-subreddit
I'm aware, but there have been efforts to do this, which is what I was referring to:
https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy
aww that sucks :-/ maybe he should just put the code on github and release it as FOSS then if he doesn't want to work on it
That's over simplified. Even if they change the data source. Lemmy and reddit have different data structures and the UI would also have to be modified
definitely, but it's good enough for a start, while he develops a more comprehensive application
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.ukSG4a3e1-hOWKvxyzg1UQHaEA%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=9b043f1cc47b4f48fbff594492c4ceb752170c9856cc51b34753465f15425c92&ipo=images
That would be awesome if it came to fruition! I am so proud of everybody who has brought the Fediverse this far, and that would ice the cake haha.
Didn't Reddit acquire Alien Blue and make it into the official app?
And absolutely ruined it, of course
Yea I remember at first everyone was so excited and then they decided to absolutely destroy what made that app good.
yes
Do we have any news on if any of the popular 3rd Party developers are planning to make Lemmy apps? How interchangeable is the code? Will it be a case of starting from absolute scratch?
I'm using Jerboa and it's fine but I'm missing a few features from Sync and frankly I don't like change 😂
We're on the same boat lol
https://youtu.be/avaSdC0QOUM
It's quite like Boost For Reddit which I like it.
It's also totally in the alpha stage, too. I would hope that with the influx of new users, the pace of development will pick up as well.
I heard the Reddit is Fun dev is planning on either joining a project or doing a new one for Lemmy. I heard it here somewhere so I don’t know much other than that
I'm on Jerboa right now and not unhappy with it, but if the rif developer gets involved in something else I'd definitely check it out. I used rif for many years.
Jerboa is nice, but clearly a work in progress. RiF has been matured for years now.
I thought he was making one for Tildes?
What's Tildes?
https://tildes.net/
A forum like reddit but needs invite to register, I think it already exist since past few years
Looks like he's building an app for tildes - https://tildes.net/
Looks like another Reddit alternative... Not sure if it's federated though.
It's not. It's more reddit adjacent than replacement. Lemmy seems closer to a replacement. I'm using both now.
If there was Apollo for Lemmy I would be a fulfilled human being
o7
I managed to get Apollo working with my own API key using a tweak and Sideloadly (works on jailed phones too)
We'll see if that continues working after 30th, if not I think I'm pretty much done with Reddit
It will, but they'll probably start sending you invoices for whatever requests you make.
Well, they've said 100 requests per minute is under the free tier, since I'm the only user with my API key that should be within their limits.
Apollo isn't working as of now!????
Regular Apollo still works for now, I've got the modified version on a backup iPhone 8 so let's see if it still works there after the shutdown
Can you please teach me how to use the tweak? PLEASE!
I would, but unfortunately r/jailbreak is closed where I got the instructions :(
RIF RIP
Pour one out for dark sky too man rip in peace 🪦
Has anyone tried Mlem yet, specifically with this server? Refuses to connect for me.
I use it with lemmy.world. Its promising, it still has a lot of crashes and some kinks that need to be ironed out and there are many features missing, but IIRC the team intends to come out with the 1.0 version by the time 3rd party apps shut down. That will probably feel more stable. Its looking good!!
It crashes way too much for me. The browser performance on mobile is simply better.
Hasn't been working for me either. Just says I logged in, then that it can't connect.
Yeah same thing. Too bad
Lmao I have the exact same folder on my phone!
Ok, why? Why not uninstall?
Ah, it can be nostalgic for some people
@Art3sian I'll never forget when I had to tap the "X" on Twitterrific... Soon I'll do the same to Apollo....
(｡ŏ﹏ŏ)
Twidere X still works with twitter somehow, if you wanted a 3rd-party client
@nope it wasn’t necessarily that I wanted a 3rd Party Client, I just enjoyed Twitter through Twitterific as it had features I liked. But… as time went on Twitter toxicity was impossible to escape, almost like walking on eggshells. Eventually just using it to argue and defend myself, so I’m actually quite happy with the alternative. I follow artists through their major avenues since most aren’t on here. I’m just not actively commenting on those platforms or posting my content anymore.
Yeah, to me, Apollo and Reddit went hand in hand. Without Apollo, no good Reddit.
This makes me sad, I really liked Apollo :(
That’s the same Apollo icon that I use.
I am clinging to my dying RIF until its dead...