Korean true crime fan murdered stranger 'out of curiosity'
A South Korean court has given a life sentence to a true crime fan who told police she murdered a stranger "out of curiosity".
Jung Yoo-jung, 23, had been obsessed with crime shows and novels and scored highly on psychopath tests, police said.
Fixated with the idea of "trying out a murder", she used an app to meet an English-language teacher, stabbing her to death at her home in May.
The brutal killing shocked South Korea.
Prosecutors had asked for the death penalty - a request typically reserved for the gravest of offences.
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She might have scored highly on psychopath tests, but it doesn't sound like she scored highly on IQ tests.
You’d think a true crime addict would know what to do to be a little more discreet
Although I don't even think you have to be a true crime addict to realize that taking a taxi to dispose of body parts is a ridiculously stupid idea.
Exactly, if you don't own a car like a real murderer, take the bus or ride a bike
Valid point
She was discrete - there was exactly one of her, and one suitcase, and one victim. I think you might mean discreet.
Thanks, stupid homophones
That's homophonic.
Oh shit, I've probably been making the discrete/discreet mistake for years. Discreet just looks like it's spelled wrong, so I'll probably keep making that mistake.
I wonder if she wanted to kill someone’s because she was into true crime, or if she got into true crime because she already on some level wanted to kill someone. The latter is my guess.
I guess we'll never know!
I agree with you. Like violent videogames don't turn people into murderers too. Though indulging in it might've amplified the murder tendencies?
Or someone with violent tendencies would enjoy indulging in violent videogames.
I guess we'll never know!
It said that she scored high on their psychopathy assessment. She would have been a psychopath prior to the podcast if the assessment is valid, unless of course, she coincidentally also had some sort of accident that caused brain damage after the podcasts.
The weird thing about this to me is how someone who has watched all this crime stuff, which generally (at least the English ones I've seen) portrays the police as being competent and successful at catching criminals, doesn't come up with a far more detailed plan to not get caught.
The interesting thing is she could genuinely have done a murder to see what it's like, just as she wanted, and probably never gotten caught. If you murder someone with no motive, no connection to you, chosen at random, in a place not close to your home or place of work or any other frequently visited locations....the police have little to go on. As a fan of these shows, she would surely be aware of this. But instead she chose to do things that would basically guarantee she's caught if the police are even minimally competent.
Maybe she wanted to get caught to have her own episode? It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Everyone here is getting tunnel vision. Person obsessed with true crime podcasts kills someone makes for a good headline but it's not the reality. It should really say mentally ill person who happens to listen to podcasts kills someone.
Wait... Do people not consider psychopathy and empathetic deficiencies mental illnesses? I sure do.
I think the defining feature is whether or not it negatively affects your daily life. Hers obviously did
It's basically a copy paste of the whole "violent videogames make kids violent" clickbait for helicopter parents.
Aren't psycopaths often quite arrogant of others abilities?
From the sound of things, she wouldn't have gotten caught if she hadn't tried to dispose of the body. If she had just left after murdering the woman, it would have been much harder to solve the case.
The app she used to find the victim likely had enough of a digital trail to link back to her, so body disposal or no, she would likely have been investigated and caught sooner or later.
Someone who recently disappeared would have their meetups and messages gone through. She would have been investigated.
She would have left a strand of hair at the scene that they DNA test then the whole case gets busted upon. That's how it works in the shows anyway
if the shows are any indication, the hair strand won't be tested, and innocent person will be charged, and in 20 years, they'll figure it out after the innocent person basically became their own lawyer and found out about the hair, then managed to get the hair tested on their final appeal.
DNA testing is only useful if someone is already in the system, so long as the killer isn't in the system then they need a sample from the killer somehow to compare the DNA. This is why if you're interviewed formally by police at the station they offer you something to drink, so they can get fingerprints from the glass/cup and DNA from your saliva on the rim.
Yeah it was just a joke about the cliches of the true crime category. To be fair I don't watch true crime myself.
That was probably why she did the things that would get her caught. It wouldn't be true crime if the criminal got away with it.
Like that old Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode
I don't watch true crime because it always felt like exploitation to me.
You mean that kind of exploitation?
Is that really what true crime is like? I've only seen more grounded things like Rob Dyke and Lordan Arts, but that sounds terrible.
Seems more like 'reality' crime.
It used to be. There's a lot of true crime podcasts/YouTube channels out there that isn't like that at all.
I agree. But I still was fascinated with how people that do interrogations for a big part of their life deal with that experience. I mean, I got super grumpy with all people while doing pager/phone duty as a sysadmin.
I can't imagine how I would feel about reality if I was dealing with people in those extremes.
I do watch true crime and I know what you mean, and I personally do struggle with whether it's even ethical to watch it. No matter how respectfully they approach it and no matter how good their intentions may or may not be, even if the wanted to raise awareness for unsolved cold cases just in case people watching may have information, it still doesn't change the reality that they are making a spectacle out of and directly profiting from someone else's tragedy without their consent or knowledge.
Then you have truly disgusting people in the true crime space like this: https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/youtuber-slammed-for-charging-to-see-autopsy-photos-of-boy-11/
And then you have CBC, Canada's national, State owned broadcasting service. They also have multiple true crime shows/podcasts, where they have reporters employed by the Canadian government interviewing police and investigators who are also employed by the Canadian government. There's nothing wrong with that on its own, BUT, it gets infuriating sometimes because there have been cases where the reporters get really suspicious that a certain person did it and has dug up a ton of seemingly new evidence that supports it, and the police wouldn't even comment on it, sound super apathetic when being told all this, and seem to have absolutely no intention to investigate further after the reporters brought their findings to them and gave them a bunch of (seemingly) new leads. Like if another government agency has already done half the work for you why would you not follow up? Is the goal of the government only to talk about horrific monsters that take the lives of their citizens and not to actually punish them and remove them from society? I suppose it's possible that the police already investigated that avenue and ruled it out and are just not telling the reporters (and by extension the public), but if that's the case why not just come out and say that so not only the suspected person's name is cleared and also let the public know that they are indeed on top of the investigation?
If they say they are investigating that way and it turns out the reporter was wrong, wouldn't there be repercussions for the reporter?
If they say they are investigating that way and it turns out the reporter was right, wouldn't it make a fair trial in front of a jury nearly impossible because of public image?
Korea even photoshops mugshots.
It's a different culture for sure.
Being alone in general is not a good idea with people you haven't established trust with.
Humans are just too fickle and prone to acting on urges without thinking about the consequences. It's getting worse as more people spend less time with eachother.
I don't quite get this culture of fear.
It seems to come out of ignorance of statistics.
Be the world you want to see.
Don't feel bad. My kids violin instructor does the sessions at his house and is quite clear it is not a drop off and pickup deal. I imagine it has more to do with him being a guy potentially alone with young girls but it is applicable to what you are saying. Why create extra risk? Meet in public or meet with more than one person.
Not to piss in the soup here, but if someone wants to murder you, it's perfectly doable for them to meet you in a public place, do the lesson, and then simply follow you afterwards. I say this as a former private English teacher who has heard multiple stories from colleagues about stalker students who always had lessons in "safe" places
Is that picture them? Because if it's is, note to self: sociopaths look like AI generated people.
In Korea, or maybe other easter Asian countries, people photoshop the shit out of their CV Pictures.
The idea of even having a CV picture is very off-putting to me.
I know, I saw one once. Remember thinking that it was just begging for trouble.
This is a South Park episode.
Watch out everyone, now South Korea is going to start taking over Minecraft!
(Reference: South Park. S17E2. Informative Murder Porn)
Now she'll satisfy her curiosity about the South Korean prison system.
I truly hope the anti video game nuts start attacking true crime docs now with the same passion they've had for call of duty and gta for the last 20+ years
Curiosity killed the cat
Did she do it in Reno?
wammin
Rotten Mango did a nice video about this crime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afCAs2iWD70
Is it just me, or does South Korean culture seem to be far behind the western world it's trying to emulate?
2 things -
Lots of South Koreans openly oppose the Western culture, so that point is dead
If you think this doesn't happen in the West, you're closing your eyes like the Binance compliance officers
Source: I live in SK outside of a foreigner hotspot
I don't see it.
It's more like a prevalence thing stemming from their culture.
yuri irl wtf
I guess this is what 14hr school days and no prospect of a relationship does to a gal
Suggesting that her not having a relationship at the age of 23 made her a murderous psychopath...
- You
Read a little, learn a lot, and avoid taking things out of context. That’s my best advice . Oh, and practice reading comprehension, if English is not your first language.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/29/asia/south-korea-marriage-kids-kostat-survey-intl-hnk/index.html
Actually, it is my first language. So you can take your bigoted assumptions and shove 'em. I have enough reading comprehension to recognize that you're a condescending, miserable denizen of the internet. Blocked.
Calm down. He might be shining a light on something you don't want to acknowledge, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You're insulting him for no reason because you don't like what he's saying. That's not conducive to constructive discussion, nor is it the behavior of a respectable adult.
Smug condescension about reading comprehension is actually a pretty good reason to insult people - they responded with insults because they were insulted.
Nah she's just a murderous piece of shit. She has thousands of peers in her same social situation who manage not to commit murder.