We have to stop identifying ownership with these billionaires and "their work" because it's not. It's a team of people who got together to accomplish a mission whether they succeeded or failed. How often is their success just a leader getting out of their way, and how often is failure because leadership was overbearing and "used their authority" to make poor decisions over the group.
"We" society only ever focus on these individuals and it's horribly incorrect to do so.
We need to forget the celebrities and identity the groups.
Absolutely. As someone who manages a small team, my duties are advocating for the people who work for me, listening to the people closest to the problem, mediating disputes between people with different solutions, and ensuring we are all working towards the same overall goals. Most of the success of the team is directly attributed to their work. My biggest contribution is making sure they have what they need to do their job.
So, since you're support staff and economically a cost center and not a producer, they make more than you, right? You advocate for their wages first, right?
Could've removed the entire appositive of your first sentence,and removed "right?" to sound like less of an ass with your wording :) valid question though. my employer does operate this way
Not everyone in my position is a sniveling little shit, as much as you may think. I do get paid more than my team, but not by some ridiculous margin. The lowest paid person gets 70% what I do and the highest paid person is at 95%. When I took over it was no shit closer to 40% for the lowest paid member. I fought for that to be fixed and burned up a lot if political capital doing it too.
When COVID came along and pay cuts and layoffs were a real threat, I told my boss to cut my salary before anyone else's. We never had to, thankfully, but I literally told him I would quit if they cut one of my subordinates pay or laid them off without first taking out of my pocket.
I had a direct report who, for three years wanted to be in a leadership role. I fought for a new position for him and put my own ass on the line recommending him for promotion every chance I got. He's been promoted past me and I hope (since I can't see his salary anymore) he is getting paid more than me because he's earned it.
I'm not some superstar manager, but I do feel like I keep my team out of the political battles and turf wars so they can focus on doing what they do best without dealing with all that crap. That's my job. When something goes wrong, I'm accountable. So when the people doing the work get it wrong and take a critical system offline by fat fingering a command, I'm the one answering the phones and taking all the shit for it and smoothing things over with stake holders. And unless it was a result of gross negligence, I'm not going to give them hell for it either because I've fucking been there before.
I didn't even want this damn job. I was perfectly happy being the technical lead and not having job recruiting and performance reviews to do, but I took it because I knew at the very least I would do my best to advocate for the people I care about, and that's not something I could say about everyone who applied.
So you can make snap judgements and assume because I manage a team that I'm just collecting a paycheck while everyone else does all the hard work, but I don't and I won't because it's unethical and shitty and despite your own insecurities, I actually give a fuck about other people.
Considering how important it is to me that I'm not some piece of shit manager, yeah, it was a little personal. I take that kind of thing seriously. It kinda doesn't work as a meme reference without the meme.
This is a shit posting community. Meme references should be assumed.
And I'm not your employee. Neither time nor place for your insecurities. Some conflict resolution skills ya got there.
Immediately talking about yourself, claiming authority, offended at the least thing, telling people what to think instead of showing those traits, serious in an unserious setting, and more. Your response to what started with a simple meme reference has me seeing more in common with the worst managers I've worked with in your actual behavior.
Hey, if these guys do everything they can to make sure their companies' "achievements" are considered all their own doing; let's be fair and attribute all the fault of their failures as well.
But you're right, billionaires ride on the shoulders of the people that do the actual hard work.
Anytime management gets involved with our work, it’s because there was a monumental fuck-up or because somebody is doing too much micro-management. In either case, it’s thrice as stressful as a normal project that goes slow as shit because everything has to be run by the big person.
He spent a bunch of dough on that hair. I believe he is likely aware of his appearance. He is pale and overweight because he spends a bunch of time playing video games, being a nazi in his failing social media site, and (based on this picture) eating french fries.
Maybe at some point his vanity will compel him to get liposuction or just go full orange man with spray tan and wear baggy suits with ties that are too long. I don't see him being like Bezos or Zuck and getting into shape.
Are you going to tell us next that cigarette companies didn't scam the public when they knew that their products caused cancer and didn't reveal it because Phillip-Morris was so valuable?
How about Theranos? At peak it was worth $9 billion. Not a scam, right?
I think that lesson definitely applies to us average folks. But the bigger lesson here is to not trust billionaires. You would have to be a special kind of asshole to reach the status of a billionaire
He's got the money where he can be lazy and still fix his health. Hire a personal chef and dietician. A personal trainer and a gym. Take a minute and get a stylist.
You're a billionaire for goodness sake. Buy a top hat!
He's got the money where he can be lazy and still fix his health. Hire a personal chef and dietician. A personal trainer and a gym. Take a minute and get a stylist.
we got a glimpse of that before he got his hair transplant.
Not shitting on anyone that gets transplants, or decides to embrace their baldness; just shitting specifically on Elon, because fuck his anti-worker, anti-consumer ass.
That's not actually a country song, but I think maybe someone should blow Elon's nose and then blow his mind. A massive brain aneurism would only benefit the world.
Like, I don’t know enough about this BS to argue, so I’m just going to believe what you’re saying, but what’s the point?
NASA put people on the moon 54 years ago. Musk has said he’d do it several times now, but he’s not there yet.
He’s also said that he’ll make space travel super cheap, yet his launches cost more than the Russian Soyuz ones used to.
They’ve gotten nowhere near the moon, and Russia does launches cheaper with their WWII tech than Musk does with his cutting edge stuff. So to me it just looks like they’re burning money for funsies.
Falcon is very successful. On top of that it allows the US and EU to stop providing money to RU for it's war crimes
Space travel is needed, right now we're just on big rock away from being a short timeline in the history of the world.
One reason SpaceX is so successful is because of the red tape that's been removed that NASA had to deal with, getting to the moon isn't the end goal, it's just a platform to use as a layover for other travel.
Yeah musk has little to do with SpaceX success besides just being the money man.
I fully support SpaceX and want them to succeed. I just want musk to be forcibly ejected and the company to be run and managed by more competent and ethical people because it’s obvious from his efforts at Twitter that he has no business running a company, much less one that has real and constant possibilities of bad management meaning the loss of human life.
I feel the same way about Tesla, but Tesla to me is no longer about moving the human race forward. There are better competitors to Tesla, and now that EVs are mainstream, the trash build quality of those vehicles should mean the company should die or be absorbed.
But also I just watched AI ethics die in 48 hours so that rich people could make more money, so fuck me I guess.
Nothing we're doing is going to prevent "one big rock" from changing life on earth. And there's a solutely no possibility of moving humanity anywhere else. Science fiction isn't a reason to support nonsense.
This is a foolish response. We aren't going to live anywhere but this planet, and only a moron thinks humanity is leaving this planet. Truly stupid shit, spoon fed to the incredulous by a billionaire dipshit and a century of science FICTION stories.
Space travel and colonization of other planets are wildly different problems to solve. We're nowhere near colonization levels of anything outside the most habitable areas of the earth.
We can't even create a self-sustaining habitat on Antarctica, and that's many times easier than Mars, the moon, or whatever other planet in our reach we're shooting for.
We most definitely can create a self sustainable habitat in Antarctica, there is no real value of doing so though. That's why we haven't. And with the attitude you have we might as well not touch space anymore. You have to start somewhere, it just sounds like you hate a musk company doing it.
I didn't mention Musk once. Not even a little. That's all you trying to simp to the jackass.
There's plenty of reasons not to try and colonize Mars right now. That doesn't mean we shouldn't advance the technology ahead.
But thinking that colonizing Mars is even remotely doable with the technology we have access to today, or in the future we can see, is being completely detached from reality.
Massive success in the interest of science, in the sense that we can learn form our failures? Fine, it's odd phrasing for a multi-billion dollar corp whose sole aim is to make money by cornering a not-yet existent market.
... You don't realize that commercial entities have always built space craft for the government, so nothing you're saying has any credibility. You should probably know something about the topic before arguing about it.
"NASA already exists" if his team is doing something never done before and very helpful, that is evidence for the necessity of other space companies besides NASA.
Edit: just so we're clear, I don't give two shits about Elaine Mosk.
You need to provide counterpoints for why their comment on why space tech is unneccesary in saving the planet, otherwise people will think that you have either nothing to say, or worse still, that you think living in space is an achievable reality for your descendants (no, they won't be part of the super rich elite)
I really wish people would stop going on about that. There are plenty of things you can legitimately criticize Musk for. The Starship program is not one of those.
Yea it's really infuriating. I am a huge space fan in general, and when I see people making negative comments about starship blowing up it just frames them as unintelligent or unaware of how effective spacexs engineering processes are.
Build, fail, repeat. All of those steps are on purpose.
My human wife left me,
My space ship left me,
Alone on this planet,
I have no one to man it,
I can't drink beer,
At least the alt-right doesn't fear me,
I'm alone on Earth,
I can't work on my girth,
Why don't people like me,
I'm not a banshee,
I'm an alien,
Definitely not a mammalian (ew),
My family loathes me,
I don't know why,
I give them clothes from me,
Maybe because I'm a blowfly,
I wish I could cry,
I want to go back to my home,
Good bye Earth,
Hello Crinda FGAN my home,
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Courtesy of ChatGPT:
(Verse 1)
Well, gather 'round, folks, let me spin you a tale,
'Bout a man named Elon, set to set sail.
Started with Tesla, electric dreams in his hand,
But life threw a curveball, didn't go as planned.
Married to a queen, but the castle came down,
Divorce papers flying all over the town.
Custody battle, like a wild, wild west show,
But Elon's still standing, ain't ready to go.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space,
Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case.
But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray,
In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Verse 2)
Lost a rocket or two, in the great cosmic sea,
But Elon's got Starship, just you wait and see.
A flamethrower in hand, and a grin on his face,
Says, "Life's just a journey, let's enjoy the race."
Ex-wife took a Tesla, but he's got the Cybertruck,
Lost some billions, but he don't give a...buck.
In the game of life, he's still rolling the dice,
Laughing in the wind, like a cowboy in the night.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space,
Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case.
But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray,
In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Bridge)
Now the world may say, "Elon, what's your deal?"
But he's launching rockets, making electric cars real.
Mars is calling, and he's reaching for the stars,
In the face of setbacks, he's trading scars for memoirs.
(Verse 3)
So here's to Elon, in this country song tale,
Fighting through storms, like a ship with no sail.
Life may be crazy, but he's dancing in the rain,
Saying, "I'll build a new rocket, and I'll try it again."
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space,
Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case.
But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray,
In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Outro)
So raise a glass, to the man with the plan,
In this country ballad, where the dust meets the sand.
Elon's still riding, on that electric highway,
Laughing at the odds, shouting, "Hey, hooray!"
He got most of paypal by default early on as his product (the original X) merged with theirs, and then was kicked out (but retained a lot of stock) after doing a bad job at management.
(Verse 1)
Out here on the edge of the galaxy's arm,
In my rusted spaceship, away from the farm.
I'm missing that old Earth, its green and its blue,
But the stars out here sparkle like morning dew.
(Chorus)
I've got stars in my whiskey, and tears in my eye,
Drifting through the cosmos, under the infinite sky.
Missing my home, where the red rivers flow,
Out here in the stars, with nowhere to go.
(Verse 2)
I dance with comets, race with the moon,
Sing to the void, out of tune.
I dream of cornfields and that sweet country song,
But the universe is vast, and the nights are long.
(Chorus)
Stars in my whiskey, a heart full of ache,
Wandering the heavens, for my old love's sake.
Under the glow of the distant sun's light,
I'm a space cowboy, lost in the night.
(Bridge)
Met a Martian girl with eyes like fire,
She mended my heart, filled me with desire.
But Earth's sweet memories, they call me back,
To the old wooden porch, the long dirt track.
(Chorus)
With stars in my whiskey, and dreams in my head,
I think of Earth as I float in my bed.
The galaxy's wide, but my heart's still there,
In the sweet country air, without a care.
(Outro)
So I'll keep drifting, with my space-bound blues,
Chasing the horizon, in my rocket shoes.
But no matter how far, or where I roam,
My country heart still calls for home.
He'd be pretty happy about the space ship blowing up though. If it had crashed into the launch pad or something on takeoff, then it would definitely count.
(Verse 1)
Out on the edge of the Milky Way's glow,
Lived a billionaire with a heart turned to stone.
Forty billion stars in his name,
But in the cosmic dust, they just faded away.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Verse 2)
He built his dreams on Martian sands,
A titan's castle in the stars' expanse.
But what's a kingdom with no queen or heir?
Just a lonely throne in the cold, silent air.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Bridge)
Under the glow of a distant sun,
He wonders what he's really won.
Forty billion stars don't shine,
Like the love he lost in another time.
(Verse 3)
In the taverns of a spaceport town,
He drinks to memories that swirl around.
A family photo, a fading trace,
Of the life that vanished in space.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Outro)
So here's to the man with everything,
Whose tears are hidden beneath his wings.
In the silence of space, he's left to roam,
A billionaire wandering far from home.
I also hate people acting like the starship test wasn't a great success. They're building a factory to build rockets and testing the output of this factory in incremental stages. The next one will go further and the one after that might even land. There's always the off-chance it'll just work on the first try, but it's never expected.
"Can't win 'em all" was what he said when she rejected him.
I wonder why she might have rejected her father when he's the richest man in the world and has the potential to make you wealthy and comfortable for the rest of your life?
Maybe he's not the best father and, like so much else about Elon, you've bought into yet more hype.
You’re aware that family members sometimes don’t like each other right? I never said he was father of the year, just that he still sees his kids. He’s got, like, 10.
How have I bought into Elon hype? Because I’m not circlejerking?
Okay, well I'm not sure what "he still sees his kids" means in terms of anything. If someone still sees their kids but beats the shit out of them every time they see them, shouldn't they never see those kids?
We have to stop identifying ownership with these billionaires and "their work" because it's not. It's a team of people who got together to accomplish a mission whether they succeeded or failed. How often is their success just a leader getting out of their way, and how often is failure because leadership was overbearing and "used their authority" to make poor decisions over the group.
"We" society only ever focus on these individuals and it's horribly incorrect to do so.
We need to forget the celebrities and identity the groups.
Absolutely. As someone who manages a small team, my duties are advocating for the people who work for me, listening to the people closest to the problem, mediating disputes between people with different solutions, and ensuring we are all working towards the same overall goals. Most of the success of the team is directly attributed to their work. My biggest contribution is making sure they have what they need to do their job.
So, since you're support staff and economically a cost center and not a producer, they make more than you, right? You advocate for their wages first, right?
I mean, despite the down votes I thought this was pretty based, even if it came across as a personal attack.
Wasn't meant as a personal attack. Shoulda put it on the Amidala meme, I guess. 🤷♂️
Could've removed the entire appositive of your first sentence,and removed "right?" to sound like less of an ass with your wording :) valid question though. my employer does operate this way
I know, you're all good 🫂
Not everyone in my position is a sniveling little shit, as much as you may think. I do get paid more than my team, but not by some ridiculous margin. The lowest paid person gets 70% what I do and the highest paid person is at 95%. When I took over it was no shit closer to 40% for the lowest paid member. I fought for that to be fixed and burned up a lot if political capital doing it too.
When COVID came along and pay cuts and layoffs were a real threat, I told my boss to cut my salary before anyone else's. We never had to, thankfully, but I literally told him I would quit if they cut one of my subordinates pay or laid them off without first taking out of my pocket.
I had a direct report who, for three years wanted to be in a leadership role. I fought for a new position for him and put my own ass on the line recommending him for promotion every chance I got. He's been promoted past me and I hope (since I can't see his salary anymore) he is getting paid more than me because he's earned it.
I'm not some superstar manager, but I do feel like I keep my team out of the political battles and turf wars so they can focus on doing what they do best without dealing with all that crap. That's my job. When something goes wrong, I'm accountable. So when the people doing the work get it wrong and take a critical system offline by fat fingering a command, I'm the one answering the phones and taking all the shit for it and smoothing things over with stake holders. And unless it was a result of gross negligence, I'm not going to give them hell for it either because I've fucking been there before.
I didn't even want this damn job. I was perfectly happy being the technical lead and not having job recruiting and performance reviews to do, but I took it because I knew at the very least I would do my best to advocate for the people I care about, and that's not something I could say about everyone who applied.
So you can make snap judgements and assume because I manage a team that I'm just collecting a paycheck while everyone else does all the hard work, but I don't and I won't because it's unethical and shitty and despite your own insecurities, I actually give a fuck about other people.
It was a meme reference. You took that way too personally. I'm sorry if you were offended.
Considering how important it is to me that I'm not some piece of shit manager, yeah, it was a little personal. I take that kind of thing seriously. It kinda doesn't work as a meme reference without the meme.
This is a shit posting community. Meme references should be assumed.
And I'm not your employee. Neither time nor place for your insecurities. Some conflict resolution skills ya got there.
Immediately talking about yourself, claiming authority, offended at the least thing, telling people what to think instead of showing those traits, serious in an unserious setting, and more. Your response to what started with a simple meme reference has me seeing more in common with the worst managers I've worked with in your actual behavior.
Hey, if these guys do everything they can to make sure their companies' "achievements" are considered all their own doing; let's be fair and attribute all the fault of their failures as well.
But you're right, billionaires ride on the shoulders of the people that do the actual hard work.
Anytime management gets involved with our work, it’s because there was a monumental fuck-up or because somebody is doing too much micro-management. In either case, it’s thrice as stressful as a normal project that goes slow as shit because everything has to be run by the big person.
Man he even looks like he’s starting his metamorphosis into trump.
Fat and old with enough money to keep it all together, but not enough self awareness to keep it together well.
That's like calling him a loser with extra steps
How fitting then. His whole life is just being a loser with extra steps.
Good one!!
He spent a bunch of dough on that hair. I believe he is likely aware of his appearance. He is pale and overweight because he spends a bunch of time playing video games, being a nazi in his failing social media site, and (based on this picture) eating french fries.
Maybe at some point his vanity will compel him to get liposuction or just go full orange man with spray tan and wear baggy suits with ties that are too long. I don't see him being like Bezos or Zuck and getting into shape.
Meh, Musk has plenty of shitty qualities that deserve criticism, we don't really need to pick on his appearance.
Becoming The Sad Blob: the Elon musk story
I hate the photoshopped photos of those "celebrities" in the news.
I mean splash one of the Elon news on this photo mother fuckers!
He's a successful scammer, for sure, but at the end of the day still a scammer who got fired for incompetence and then got lucky.
A scammer who is the CEO of 2 of the most valuable companies in the US...
A scammer who used his money he made through scamming to become CEO, and then to scam even more:
Scams his employees by paying too little or not at all
Scams his money lenders by breaking their investment
Scams his customers by asking premium prices for underperforming products
Scams governments out of funding
Scams new tech startups by suing them in order to be called a founder
Scams every person in every country his companies operate in by not paying the taxes he is owed
I wasn't talking about Twitter.
SpaceX launched 60% of three global space launch market, I would say that's pretty damn important. Also, Starlink.
In any case, it's obviously the people who work at these companies that are doing the work, not Mr muskrat.
Are you going to tell us next that cigarette companies didn't scam the public when they knew that their products caused cancer and didn't reveal it because Phillip-Morris was so valuable?
How about Theranos? At peak it was worth $9 billion. Not a scam, right?
I think you meant "least valuable", because they're garbage.
I want downvotes too, you know.
He also abuses his X all the time
He is a rimworld character.
Ohh but which one would he be?
The annoying weakling that shit himself, that I sold for smokeleaf
the guy that sits in my prison for the only reason that i dislike his addictions
I feel like you don't know how Rimworld works
I don't know, we all have that one guy we put in uranium jail forever
He definitely looks like the kind of pawn that would get upset and punch the stockpile of explosives.
The more time goes on the more he looks like meatcanyon's depiction of him
I'm looking forward to seeing him look more like aamon's depiction of him
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I think he feels miserable. No happy person behaves this way
I think that lesson definitely applies to us average folks. But the bigger lesson here is to not trust billionaires. You would have to be a special kind of asshole to reach the status of a billionaire
It's cuntry music.
Pronounced, Cunt- tree
Some people are so poor, all they have is money.
He's got the money where he can be lazy and still fix his health. Hire a personal chef and dietician. A personal trainer and a gym. Take a minute and get a stylist.
You're a billionaire for goodness sake. Buy a top hat!
And yet he still looks the way he does.
Imagine how bad he'd look if he wasn't.
we got a glimpse of that before he got his hair transplant.
Not shitting on anyone that gets transplants, or decides to embrace their baldness; just shitting specifically on Elon, because fuck his anti-worker, anti-consumer ass.
This must be after all that stuff. Without the billions, he'd look like the stereotypical basement neckbeard.
You seriously think he has it in him to work hard on himself (or anything for that matter)??
No shot, instead he would use that money for shit like ozempic, lap band or lipo surgery, etc.
He used Ozempic. He is much thinner now. But I'm sure his health is awful.
That said, he's probably still richer than everyone else here.
"probably", you mean definitely.
I mean most likely, but I haven't checked my bank balance in a while so can't be 100% certain
Schrodinger's bank account?
I can check it for you, is your pin still 1234?
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I'm a programmer
Clearly I'm a garbage programmer who is 1 indexed. I feel ashamed
It's ok, someone's gotta take the bullet called Matlab
True, but it can buy a lot of people to tell you how smart and wonderful and handsome you are so you can pretend all that bad stuff never happened.
But deep down the truth still knocks
He already has his mom for that so he’s wasting his money
And that matters?
Lotta people abiding real close by Worthington’s law
A lot of people could get rich if they lost their morals.
Good thing they don't though, or the world would be even more shitty.
still one of the richest people in the world I think
$50 bucks says, he still never feels like it's enough.
I call it "Honkey-Tech Blues"
I was going with Elon Blues
That's not actually a country song, but I think maybe someone should blow Elon's nose and then blow his mind. A massive brain aneurism would only benefit the world.
His truck’s a piece of shit too, that’s big important here
I'd call the genre cowboy bebop, but wouldn't want to insult the show
The real folk blues
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Like, I don’t know enough about this BS to argue, so I’m just going to believe what you’re saying, but what’s the point?
NASA put people on the moon 54 years ago. Musk has said he’d do it several times now, but he’s not there yet.
He’s also said that he’ll make space travel super cheap, yet his launches cost more than the Russian Soyuz ones used to.
They’ve gotten nowhere near the moon, and Russia does launches cheaper with their WWII tech than Musk does with his cutting edge stuff. So to me it just looks like they’re burning money for funsies.
No it's not...not at all..
https://marspedia.org/Financial_effort_estimation
Falcon is very successful. On top of that it allows the US and EU to stop providing money to RU for it's war crimes
Space travel is needed, right now we're just on big rock away from being a short timeline in the history of the world.
One reason SpaceX is so successful is because of the red tape that's been removed that NASA had to deal with, getting to the moon isn't the end goal, it's just a platform to use as a layover for other travel.
Yeah musk has little to do with SpaceX success besides just being the money man.
I fully support SpaceX and want them to succeed. I just want musk to be forcibly ejected and the company to be run and managed by more competent and ethical people because it’s obvious from his efforts at Twitter that he has no business running a company, much less one that has real and constant possibilities of bad management meaning the loss of human life.
I feel the same way about Tesla, but Tesla to me is no longer about moving the human race forward. There are better competitors to Tesla, and now that EVs are mainstream, the trash build quality of those vehicles should mean the company should die or be absorbed.
But also I just watched AI ethics die in 48 hours so that rich people could make more money, so fuck me I guess.
Nothing we're doing is going to prevent "one big rock" from changing life on earth. And there's a solutely no possibility of moving humanity anywhere else. Science fiction isn't a reason to support nonsense.
Wow...you would have been that guy in a cave that said this is fine, no need to go outside.
You have to start somewhere
This is a foolish response. We aren't going to live anywhere but this planet, and only a moron thinks humanity is leaving this planet. Truly stupid shit, spoon fed to the incredulous by a billionaire dipshit and a century of science FICTION stories.
Back to the Zubrin books for you.
Space travel and colonization of other planets are wildly different problems to solve. We're nowhere near colonization levels of anything outside the most habitable areas of the earth.
We can't even create a self-sustaining habitat on Antarctica, and that's many times easier than Mars, the moon, or whatever other planet in our reach we're shooting for.
We most definitely can create a self sustainable habitat in Antarctica, there is no real value of doing so though. That's why we haven't. And with the attitude you have we might as well not touch space anymore. You have to start somewhere, it just sounds like you hate a musk company doing it.
Man, there's a lot of projection here from you.
I didn't mention Musk once. Not even a little. That's all you trying to simp to the jackass.
There's plenty of reasons not to try and colonize Mars right now. That doesn't mean we shouldn't advance the technology ahead.
But thinking that colonizing Mars is even remotely doable with the technology we have access to today, or in the future we can see, is being completely detached from reality.
Hi, elon!
lmao
Hot staging didn't hot stage, flight termination failed again, it didn't reach its target altitude, a bunch of engines flamed out unexpectedly again.
That's not a success. Not exploding on the pad doesn't make it a success. Stop believing the YouTube simps.
Massive success in the interest of science, in the sense that we can learn form our failures? Fine, it's odd phrasing for a multi-billion dollar corp whose sole aim is to make money by cornering a not-yet existent market.
... You don't realize that commercial entities have always built space craft for the government, so nothing you're saying has any credibility. You should probably know something about the topic before arguing about it.
"NASA already exists" if his team is doing something never done before and very helpful, that is evidence for the necessity of other space companies besides NASA.
Edit: just so we're clear, I don't give two shits about Elaine Mosk.
You need to provide counterpoints for why their comment on why space tech is unneccesary in saving the planet, otherwise people will think that you have either nothing to say, or worse still, that you think living in space is an achievable reality for your descendants (no, they won't be part of the super rich elite)
NASA isn't a company, and they've always paid contractors to make their vehicles. Crucially, noone is doing anything that hasn't been done before.
He also looks like a middle-aged woman after her menopause.
Expand on this
Elon already did the expanding
The rocket was meant to crash, so I don’t think he’s that upset about it.
I really wish people would stop going on about that. There are plenty of things you can legitimately criticize Musk for. The Starship program is not one of those.
Yea it's really infuriating. I am a huge space fan in general, and when I see people making negative comments about starship blowing up it just frames them as unintelligent or unaware of how effective spacexs engineering processes are.
Build, fail, repeat. All of those steps are on purpose.
He always looks like he just got out of drag and washed his makeup off.
ahem
gets out a guitar
strums a few notes
My human wife left me,
My space ship left me,
Alone on this planet,
I have no one to man it,
I can't drink beer,
At least the alt-right doesn't fear me,
I'm alone on Earth,
I can't work on my girth,
Why don't people like me,
I'm not a banshee,
I'm an alien,
Definitely not a mammalian (ew),
My family loathes me, I don't know why,
I give them clothes from me,
Maybe because I'm a blowfly,
I wish I could cry,
I want to go back to my home,
Good bye Earth,
Hello Crinda FGAN my home,
Thank you everyone for your support, you can buy my name album "What the Fuck Was I Doing?" to be released on April 20, 2024. Support your local record shops!
Courtesy of ChatGPT: (Verse 1) Well, gather 'round, folks, let me spin you a tale, 'Bout a man named Elon, set to set sail. Started with Tesla, electric dreams in his hand, But life threw a curveball, didn't go as planned.
Married to a queen, but the castle came down, Divorce papers flying all over the town. Custody battle, like a wild, wild west show, But Elon's still standing, ain't ready to go.
(Chorus) He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space, Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case. But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray, In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Verse 2) Lost a rocket or two, in the great cosmic sea, But Elon's got Starship, just you wait and see. A flamethrower in hand, and a grin on his face, Says, "Life's just a journey, let's enjoy the race."
Ex-wife took a Tesla, but he's got the Cybertruck, Lost some billions, but he don't give a...buck. In the game of life, he's still rolling the dice, Laughing in the wind, like a cowboy in the night.
(Chorus) He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space, Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case. But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray, In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Bridge) Now the world may say, "Elon, what's your deal?" But he's launching rockets, making electric cars real. Mars is calling, and he's reaching for the stars, In the face of setbacks, he's trading scars for memoirs.
(Verse 3) So here's to Elon, in this country song tale, Fighting through storms, like a ship with no sail. Life may be crazy, but he's dancing in the rain, Saying, "I'll build a new rocket, and I'll try it again."
(Chorus) He lost his love, his rockets crashed in space, Forty billion dollars, it's a hard-earned case. But Elon keeps on smiling, though the world's gone astray, In the face of chaos, he just shouts, "Hey, hooray!"
(Outro) So raise a glass, to the man with the plan, In this country ballad, where the dust meets the sand. Elon's still riding, on that electric highway, Laughing at the odds, shouting, "Hey, hooray!"
Holley sheit
Did he start with family money that he invested in PayPal then fell upwards to Telsa?
He got most of paypal by default early on as his product (the original X) merged with theirs, and then was kicked out (but retained a lot of stock) after doing a bad job at management.
Any IA that converts that to a song with music?
I’m sure that the Saudis are compensating him for his losses on Twitter. This was a planned demolition.
Hmm. Hey ChatGPT, write a sci-fi space-themed stereotypical country song.
Sure, here's a sci-fi space-themed country song:
"Stars in My Whiskey"
(Verse 1) Out here on the edge of the galaxy's arm, In my rusted spaceship, away from the farm. I'm missing that old Earth, its green and its blue, But the stars out here sparkle like morning dew.
(Chorus) I've got stars in my whiskey, and tears in my eye, Drifting through the cosmos, under the infinite sky. Missing my home, where the red rivers flow, Out here in the stars, with nowhere to go.
(Verse 2) I dance with comets, race with the moon, Sing to the void, out of tune. I dream of cornfields and that sweet country song, But the universe is vast, and the nights are long.
(Chorus) Stars in my whiskey, a heart full of ache, Wandering the heavens, for my old love's sake. Under the glow of the distant sun's light, I'm a space cowboy, lost in the night.
(Bridge) Met a Martian girl with eyes like fire, She mended my heart, filled me with desire. But Earth's sweet memories, they call me back, To the old wooden porch, the long dirt track.
(Chorus) With stars in my whiskey, and dreams in my head, I think of Earth as I float in my bed. The galaxy's wide, but my heart's still there, In the sweet country air, without a care.
(Outro) So I'll keep drifting, with my space-bound blues, Chasing the horizon, in my rocket shoes. But no matter how far, or where I roam, My country heart still calls for home.
That's exactly the content I expected, but with much better execution.
Follow-up question, what's the space equivalent of a slide guitar? A theremin?
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me
FAIL! That's a Sci-Fi space-themed stereotypical folk song.
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He'd be pretty happy about the space ship blowing up though. If it had crashed into the launch pad or something on takeoff, then it would definitely count.
Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me an emerald mine, slaver puuutz
"Someone say that Hitler was right, I'll like your pooost!"
I’m a joker, i’m a smoker, i’m a midnight toker
Here's a better one:
Title: Cosmic Blues on a Starry Trail
(Verse 1)
Out on the edge of the Milky Way's glow,
Lived a billionaire with a heart turned to stone.
Forty billion stars in his name,
But in the cosmic dust, they just faded away.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Verse 2)
He built his dreams on Martian sands,
A titan's castle in the stars' expanse.
But what's a kingdom with no queen or heir?
Just a lonely throne in the cold, silent air.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Bridge)
Under the glow of a distant sun,
He wonders what he's really won.
Forty billion stars don't shine,
Like the love he lost in another time.
(Verse 3)
In the taverns of a spaceport town,
He drinks to memories that swirl around.
A family photo, a fading trace,
Of the life that vanished in space.
(Chorus)
He lost his love, his kids, his dreams,
In the black hole where his heart used to be.
A spaceship crashed, a fortune gone,
Now he's singing this lonesome interstellar song.
(Outro)
So here's to the man with everything,
Whose tears are hidden beneath his wings.
In the silence of space, he's left to roam,
A billionaire wandering far from home.
I'm quite glad I haven't heard about any of this, besides the money lost to Twitter I guess
wow is that really a recent picture of him? I thought he was on Ozempic that miracle starvation drug that gives people 24/7 diarrhea.
Why is it that I have always pictured him looking fitter than this?
Good PR is why.
He looks like Neil Breen and treats people like Neil's movies. Terrible.
If only Elon did the same thing as The President of the Bank
Elect an emo, expect him to cut himself
Does he have a dog? We need a dog in there somewhere.
Well I guess his monkey died, does that count?
I mean, I was thinking more along the lines of ran away, but if you must assume the worst of every anonymous Internet user, I suppose I get it.
Right? Like Grimes could have left with the kid and the dog.
Call it Elon-core.
Sounds like a Finnish song.
Boo hoo dumb cunt Elmo!
Dude hasn’t been married since 2016 and still sees his kids, what are you talking about?
Find real reasons to criticize somebody. Better yet, ignore him and make him go away. These posts are worse than the dick rider posts.
I also hate people acting like the starship test wasn't a great success. They're building a factory to build rockets and testing the output of this factory in incremental stages. The next one will go further and the one after that might even land. There's always the off-chance it'll just work on the first try, but it's never expected.
Indeed. Apollo I didn't land on the moon. Even after building on 20 Gemini missions. Apollo 11 was the iteration that landed on the moon.
Yeah, I'm no Elon fan but this post is just dumb
How often does he see his trans daughter?
"Can't win 'em all" was what he said when she rejected him.
I wonder why she might have rejected her father when he's the richest man in the world and has the potential to make you wealthy and comfortable for the rest of your life?
Maybe he's not the best father and, like so much else about Elon, you've bought into yet more hype.
You’re aware that family members sometimes don’t like each other right? I never said he was father of the year, just that he still sees his kids. He’s got, like, 10.
How have I bought into Elon hype? Because I’m not circlejerking?
Okay, well I'm not sure what "he still sees his kids" means in terms of anything. If someone still sees their kids but beats the shit out of them every time they see them, shouldn't they never see those kids?
Idk, but he hasn’t “lost his kids” like the post says. I don’t know the day to day relationship, but he’s often seen with them.
I don’t like him either but I’m not going to spread lies.
He hasn't lost his kids- other than the trans one who he lost by being a bigot.
And being seen with his kids doesn't mean he loves them or even cares about them. He's seen with them because he wants to be seen with them.