Was about to say this myself before I saw your comment. I'm 6ft 1 in (185 cm) and I stand up as soon as we land because after 2 hours of having my knees jammed up against the seat in front, I want relief.
I can only imagine how much worse it is for taller people. For shorter people who do this I will also give the benefit of the doubt because most seats on planes are not the most comfortable.
I’m 6’3 and plane seats have gotten so small that I look like a joke person on a kiddie plane most of the time. If there’s enough headroom, I stand up asap too.
If I get stuck in a window seat, I just have to hope the other people get up so I can angle my legs over into their spot before I die from deep vein thrombosis from having my legs cramped into one position for so long.
I never thought I'd experience this. But I was on a short flight that was an hour long. So I was in what I call the tuna can plane. The small city hopper type. When we were getting off the plane, I stood up and full force twatted my head off the overhead bins.
I'm 5 foot... I dunno what dazed me more, the shock or the smack on the head. Lmfao.
Guarantee it happens again when I take that flight soon.
A second reasonable case is when entering US feom abroad. Passport check at Ohare is slooooooow, so I always make an effort to get there before most others. I usually don't care about exiting plane early, but I do care about maximizing the time spent drinking beer in a lounge, compared to standing in line.
I often fly from Europe to Houston via Chicago, and how early I get out of the transatlantic flight can mean up to 90 minutes less queuing.
Yeah I’ve seen them short change the number of officers in the non-American lines, it’s just stupid. And they haven’t moved to digital processing of foreigners like London does.
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As a 6’ person, standing up is the only way to immediately relieve the excruciating pain in my legs from being jammed into a tiny seat for 3 hours. I’ll let everyone in front of me go first, and help people get their bag out. Me standing doesn’t harm you at all. Deal with it.
Edit: quit telling me how it doesn’t hurt your legs or some shit. We are not the same
It amazes me that people don't get this. As a guy who flew two to three times a week. There was nothing better than standing up as soon as I was able to. Because Jesus fucking Christ, my knees were screaming at me so loud I was about to cry.
I enjoy the part where I get someone’s ass in my face for 5 minutes while everyone waits for the jet bridge and the front of the plane to disembark.
Having your carry on in order and knowing where your bag is located is the key to actually getting yourself off the plane quickly. I personally find putting my overhead bag in the bin on the opposite side of the aisle makes it dead simple to grab and go as then it takes no additional time vs me just getting up and going. Reach, pull, walk.
Used to fly like 100+ times a year for many years before covid. Had a lot of time to think about how to get off a plane quickly and efficiently.
I enjoy when the guy across the aisle puts his shit in my overhead bin and then sticks his dick in my face for 5 minutes to get it. But heaven forbid I stand up because I have been in constant pain for hours.
I mean, that sucks that sitting gives you incredible pain. It surprises me to see how many people have problems sitting for a long time. I get the seats aren’t the most comfortable. I like to try to straighten my legs out under where the smaller carry on goes because I do get discomfort on long flights if I do just sit there and don’t get up at some point, especially on long flights. I don’t get the comment about “your bin” like bins are assigned or something. Glad I’m not one of those pricks putting their dick in your face for 5 minutes though. Definitely a dick move.
Imagine being a bit taller so you can’t stretch your legs out. Imagine your knees jammed against the hard plastic seat frame for that entire flight. Imagine the seat being much lower than your knees so all your weight is on your back instead of spread on the seat. Imagine that effing headrest digging into your back the entire flight.
And of course, imagine the tray able can’t be opened flat because your knees are there. Imagine seats narrower that your shoulders, hips, rib cage. Imagine the seat back screen that’s so far below eye level that sometimes it’s easier to just watch whatever the people in front of you are watching
Well no but ok. Whatever makes you feel happy. Almost every time I let the row across from me go first unless I need to get moving and in the event I don’t, I’m not a huge beast of a person where I have to invade everyone’s space. I’m also not part t-rex with baby arms.
As another 6' person, you're clogging the aisle and making it take longer for people to gather their overhead luggage. Two more minutes isn't going to kill either of us. And maybe spring for aisle seats next time so you can stretch out a bit if it's that big a problem for you.
Must be nice to be you and not me, unfortunately I’m not so lucky. 6’ is a generalization. Did you consider the possibility that we’ve flown on different airlines with varying seat sizes?
I am 6"4". I keep sitting even though my legs are pressed in the seat before me. Because everything is better than standing with my back hunched over like a crooked banana. Hurts my back like crazy
Also 6’4”, but I have knee problems as opposed to back problems so I’m in the standing up group. My dad has chronic back pain though, so I can totally see your point of view. I would which back problems on my worst enemy after seeing him suffer with it for decades.
Ok, fine, but that doesn’t explain the 5’1’’ who also stand up and immediately begin to ask tall people (probably like you) to get carry-on luggage down so it can be uncomfortably held in some weird Twister-pose interlocked with all the other idiots who can’t understand that they’ll be facing four other queues before they are home.
YOU might have a solid reason to race to the starting line. But come on: Most don’t!
He he. I live in the U.K. If you don’t have a good reason, the tutting from others might increase to even audible levels, causing you endless social shame.
Imagine living on top of other people. They can look into your garden. They can see into your house. They are right next to you; on the trains, on the roads, in the tube. In that environment, the game of “who’s judging who” is strong. Welcome to the U.K.
I’m aware in the US, you don’t need a good reason to exercise your God Given Right to stand up when you God Damn Please and if anybody has any God Damn Thing to say to you, they better grab for the concealed carry.
But int he U.K., we we have swapped loaded firearms for social derision and it hurts almost as much as lead bullets.
...ok? Not sure how other people being up their own ass about what harmless thing you're doing qualifies as a "good reason". And whether you succumb to peer pressure like a wet straw is really besides the point.
You say you stand up right away because you've been jammed into your seat for hours, so I'm wondering why you didn't stand up during the flight. Then you wouldn't be jammed in for hours...
I don’t know about op but I generally don’t stand during a flight despite the pain because I don’t want to be on everyone’s way. If you can’t get an aisle seat, getting up means making people in those seats get up. Aisle are too narrow to pass so if the flight attendants are out, you may need to edit their full routine. If you’re just standing there maybe you’re blocking someone beefing to use the bathroom.
Most importantly I don’t get up because trying to unfold myself from that torture device is a process. I can’t do it quickly. I can’t do it without leaning in something I can’t do it without sticking my butt out from being bent over under the bins. By the time I get into the aisle and get the kinks out do I can walk, the entire situation may have changed so now I’m blocking someone again
That sounds awful, I'm sorry you have to go through that. They have those extra leg room exit row seats, but they seem to allocate them at random instead of to tall people.
Some people are a bit taller. Think of it more like three hours perching on a toddlers stool with sharp plastic corners digging into your knees. Think of it as three hours hunched over from the “head rest” digging into your back. Think of it as three hours with your arms pulled tight into your lap so you’re not elbowing your neighbor. Think of it as three hours sitting twisted so everyone’s shoulders fit together like jigsaws since seats aren’t wide enough for shoulder to shoulder
But you can't pace up and down the plane straight after landing either. But I doubt anyone would care if you stood up to stretch your legs 30 mins before landing?
You laugh, but shaving off 1.7 seconds is enough for a dedicated speedrunner to set up a new world record of Getting the fuck off the fucking airplane in the category full capacity, window seat
You hide in the first-class bathroom before they tell everyone to buckle for landing. If the crew pushes that you get out, play diarrhea sounds and say you are in pain.
As all the people saying they stand up to stretch their legs imply- we shouldn't be mad at the jerks who get up to get off the plane first, we should be mad at the airlines for packing planes so full that there's not a reasonable amount of leg room unless you pay a premium for it.
I have noticed that people in first class are often still sitting there when I leave in coach. And I don't jump up to be the first off the plane.
I find it comical to watch all the people in a hurry to stand in a line for 5 mins before the door even opens. Even for long west-east coast flights I can manage to sit for a few more minutes.
It's the same with boarding. I just wait till most of the line is done so I don't have to fight to get to my seat.
My knees get really sore and stiff sitting bent for a long time, I need to stand up when I can. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane 95% of the time (unless late for a tight connection obviously) but I can see how it'd look like that.
1.7 seconds seems generous imo. In my experience you gain nothing as despite standing up you still end up waiting for the rows ahead of you to leave first. Maybe that's a UK thing as we love to queue.
True tallish people will face trouble standing up. The main issue once people stand up, the aisle gets crowded and then deplaning is not all orderly. It would be nice if people allowed deplaning in a controlled way so that the people near exit disembark first and we advance row wise in an orderly fashion. Unfortunately this never happens
Sure, but it would also be nice if airlines didn't put space between chairs so tight that most people do not have a comfortable amount of leg room.
What I would give to live in a world where user/customer experience was prioritised over squeezing as much profits as possible.
And no, "tallish" people will not be the only ones facing trouble standing up. I am of average height. I cannot stand up in my seat on a plane.
I guess that depends on the country. In mine the average height is only around 170cm for men and around 160cm for women so less of an issue. In countries like the Netherlands, the average height(for men) is around 185cm so for them even 'short' people will face issues.
I'm only slightly taller than that and I have to bend my head way down.
I have no idea why you're arguing that you can comfortably stand up in an airplane seat without being very short when just looking at the picture shows that you can't. Unless every single person standing is really tall and so is the guy bending way down while trying to stand in his seat.
But hey, what am I going to believe, you or my own eyes?
Frankly neither do I. I guess I was bored at the office and was just curious to look up the average height statistics. Your are right though. Fuck the airlines. They should give us more head room and leg room
You could argue that standing up immediately helps unload faster. Standing up not only helps get rid of the pain of being crammed in an airline seat but I immediately get my duffle from the overhead so when it’s my turn to go, I go. Meanwhile the people who haven’t gotten up block the aisle while struggling to get their bags
As usual in posts about this, I'll ask - what's the huge fuss with people caring about this? Who is it hurting? Regardless of any impatience they may or may not have, it's just nice to stand up after sitting for several hours. And if they're ready to go, that's less time for the people behind them to wait.
Personally I don't really care about the act of standing up but if I'm in the aisle seat its not that fun at the end of a long flight to have somebody's arse about two inches from your face whilst waiting for disembarking to start.
In what was is it a sign of "self-importance"? It's just standing up. Unless they're pushing their way past people or getting otherwise aggressive about it, it means nothing other than they would rather stand. Hell, they could be doing it so as to not hold people up deboarding after them.
This is brilliant timing. I read this sitting at the gate for a short hall flight. There was still a lot of time before the flight and they announced "can Anna something please come to the desk", and about 40 people (I counted as had so much time still) stood up and rushed to queue up and then had to stand up for another 30 minutes until it actually started boarding...
It was a cheap airline so overhead space can be difficult but I really don't get the people who rush to sit down in the tight horrible seats (designated seating btw) waiting for everyone else to sit.
We arrived and then the picture happened of course...
It was a cheap airline so overhead space can be difficult
You answered your own question. I can't remember the last flight I had that didn't announce that they were going to need to check some people's carry-ons. As someone that purposefully avoids letting the TSA manhandle my luggage, I'm going to do what I can to avoid that.
For a while now here in Europe, they charge more for bags that don't fit under the seat and let you check in one bag for free you used to be able to take on the flight so unless most people are paying extra for that, which I wouldn't believe would be the case if they're flying these cheap airlines, I don't think that is the issue
People standing up is fine for me. What I hate is when these people move into the aisle before the plane has stopped moving and then crowd the aisle in such a way that deplaning in a controlled and orderly fashion is no longer possible.
I'm convinced the only people that complain about this shit are tiny little 4'2" assholes who cant fathom that normal sized humans being crammed into a tuna can of a seat isnt just uncomfortable, its downright painful... So painful in fact that I will literally jump out of my seat the microsecond I am able to, just to end the constant incurring pain.
I'm above average height, and after I get off a plane I have to go take a big dose of tylenol and spend half the day laying in bed for the pain and misery to go away.
and thats with paying extra for aisle seat so I can stretch oneleg out every 30 minutes when no ones walking by.
Getting in and out of those seats when you're over 5' 10" is like getting out of a child's lawn chair or a beanbag chair with arthritis and an oversized backpack. So every attempt is a feat of gymnastics of extricating your sore skeleton with cramped muscles with only the back of another passenger's chair as leverage with a low overhead to avoid. It's like doing contortionist work while hungover. And if you're not in the aisle seat, you gotta get 1-2 people to get up so you can pass them.
I've always assumed that they eventually realize they've misjudged the time to stand up, but most decide to commit like they meant to do it instead of sitting back down.
I'm a large man at 6' 2" with large shoulders. I am crammed into the small economy seats trying not to spill over into the seat next to me (most often occupied by my wife) or the aisle. God forbid the person in front of me lean back their seat. I've tried wear knee pads to save my knees. At the end of any flight over two hours, I just need to stretch my legs. I get up, but I'm not trying to get off the plane. I'm just trying to de-acordian myself.
I typically try and get front row on flights, or at least the row next to an actual exit and I only take hand luggage. If I can get my hand luggage and get off first I get to passport control and get out much quicker than people who wait and end up at the back of the passport queue, and even further ahead of those that do baggage claim.
I can easy save 30 minutes if not more doing this. Obviously its not going to work every flight but it works more often than not. It's particularly worthwhile if you catching a taxi at the other end as you can short cut the queue at smaller airports.
However I don't see the point if you have way down the plane and/or have checked bags, other than leg cramps.
I want to stand up after sitting for so long. Airplane seats suck ass.
If you don't stand in the aisle there are an unbelievable number of people with no social awareness who won't wait for the rows in front of them to empty out before exiting the plane.
I had a discussion with someone in another thread like this that had the opposite comprehension issue and could not understand why people in their row were frustrated with them just sitting there while the entire plane deboarded, because they were waiting for the aisle to be clear 🤦♂️
I stay seated until i can get up and leave without queueing. Usually I walk past the whole plane while going to the exit because they are lost, on the phone, waiting for friend, being retarded.
There are also some phobias involved here. It's very common to be afraid of close and tiny spaces and heights, even literally afraid to fly, which is translated to be inside something that flies. A lot of people travels for business and have asshole bosses, so I can't blame them for being in the rush to get some place in time.
Flight is airport to airport. You neither live or reside at either airport. Measure door to door for a more accurate comparison, I don't fly from my driveway to my destinations back garden when I get a plane. I have to gget to the airport on a train, check in, go through security, wait for delays, wait at baggage collection and get a cab on the other side.
It's not going to change the outcome but if you're going to use numbers to measure a difference, try to consider all the facts.
In my case even adding the time on airport reaching it etc and even with my shitty connections as I live in a small town still much less. Of course that changes if there is a cancellation or similar.
And those numbers I provided was the car/train from big city to big city near airport of departure and arrival.
Not the towns I end up going to, because they are much less.communciqted and adds more time.
If money is your only consideration when travelling 700miles (about how far 2h flight usually is) then I don't consider you a reasonable and functional member of society, especially if you're travelling with others.
Please consider your effect on the environment when travelling, cars can take a lot more than one person.
London to Marseille is a 2h flight (probably 5-6h if you include door to door airport travel and waiting) but driving takes just under 12h. If you say you can't afford the cost of the ferry, then consider why are you getting a plane in the first place?
Small compromises can be made to make the world a better place, so remember you have options.
Holy shit. Did you think for ever a split second before typing that comment?
Money, for most people who are not well off, IS THE BIGGEST CONSIDERSTION.
I am not a functioning member of society, if I can't afford to spare multiple times amount of money and time to lug myself, in my shitty car for 18+ hours or in public transportation for 22+ hours to see MY FAMILY like once every 2 years.
Because it's individuals who caused global warming, right? Not the corporations, who knew of it for decades and didn't give a shit in pursuit of higher profits.
I seriously hope this is a troll and you are not actually that idiotic and/or smug.
HOLY SHIT, did you even think before replying to my comment?
Why are you flying between cities if you can't afford to eat your breakfast in the morning. You're a fucking comic
If you take all the individuals off this planet there will be no global warming, don't cope yourself behind major corporations. They are run by individuals you moron. Individuals which would lower their plane fleet if the demand reduced.
You're a deluded cop out kid which isn't worth anyone's time
Terrible comparison. Door to door with up to four people and baggage it's a 7h drive, that 45min flght is not door to door..
My nearest airport is 30 mins to the train station, 15mins walk to the lobby 60mins in check-in, 60mins contingency waiting at the gate, then 45mins flight which is probably delayed 15 mins. Then another 15 mins waiting to get off the plane, then 20mins waiting for baggage and another 60mins to get to your destination.
Yes it's probably still faster, but don't try to compare a flight to a drive in the way you just did lol
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
It's 45min flight + 40 min bus to the airport + ~30 min wait for on boarding (not a lot of security theater/long queues). Let's add another 40 min for takeoff and getting my luggage. 40 min bus from the airport to Oslo for a total of 3 hours and 15 min.
It's literally more time on the bus than on the plane, especially for those of us who don't live in Oslo and need to take the bus for even longer.
If I were to be realistic with the drive, I would add another hour to the drive as you'll likely want to stop to eat during the drive. That's half the time of what it takes to drive.
I'll drive during the summer since I can stop halfway through and take a short hike in the mountains before continuing, but during the winter you run the risk of the roads getting shut down if the weather is bad over the mountains.
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
You're welcome, I'm sure those 2 flights per year by someone who doesn't even own a car and probably never will is ruining the environment lmao.
Yeah my point wasn't that it's faster to drive, my point was your original comparison was unfair.
What you've described is far more accurate representation of the choices and their durations.
You ended up multiplying your "time it takes on the plane" by over four times. It went from "45m" to "3h15m" which was the main point I wanted to get at.
Secondly, it is an undeniable fact that flying has a larger effect on the environment per person than driving even a shitty old car. Don't try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say "so what". Remember this next time you fly (2 per year alone is a lot btw).
I'm not going to try to argue what choices you should make, just be educated in the effect of those choices.
I feel like the added time to and from the airport is something everyone are aware of, it's pretty much the same regardless of flight time. The flight is still a 45 min flight. I don't work for "big air flight", so I don't have anything to gain on convincing someone that flying is more time effective for certain trips.
2 per year alone is a lot btw
In what world is 2 flights per year a lot? It's a single round-trip.
My buddy who works as a robotics mechanic flies every month for his work, my old man working off-shore flies 4 times every month. Your typical family/couple will take a trip or two on vacation every year. I feel like the odd one out since I got a cabin where I spend my vacation instead of seeing the world.
Don't try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say "so what".
I'm not trying to "cop out", why would I make excuses for strangers on the internet? I don't feel any guilt for what's a literal drop in the ocean. There are other glaring issues that I'm more concerned about than flight traffic. If you hold a different opinion that's fine and I'm happy to hear it.
I'm purely sharing my opinion on a site dedicated for that. It's a good way to get perspective and opinions from people across cultures and at different stages of life.
There is indeed in most of the world, in the form of intercity and high speed rail. There used to be the former in a way bigger proportion of North America than there is now.
We cannot have airlines that exist purely for emergencies unless they are so cost-prohibitive that they are only usable by the rich. In order to have airplanes criss-crossing the world for that purpose, they have to work on a regular basis.
As god is my witness I do not understand why anyone complains about this. There are many good reasons to stand up and try to get off the plane quickly, and it hurts almost nobody (unless you get in someone else's way, but that won't happen unless the other person gets up early as well).
I fly quite frequently and you get up so you can start gathering your stuff and get ready as fast as possible. I usually offer the person next to me a chance to get up and if they don't, I do.
"he was first in line at baggage claim, but sadly his bag showed up last"
"“he was first in line at baggage claim, but sadly his bag showed up
lastnext week.. in London.. Ontario.”Although he was traveling with only a carry-on, it too was checked in due to airline policy
The real reason is your legs are uncomfortable
Was about to say this myself before I saw your comment. I'm 6ft 1 in (185 cm) and I stand up as soon as we land because after 2 hours of having my knees jammed up against the seat in front, I want relief. I can only imagine how much worse it is for taller people. For shorter people who do this I will also give the benefit of the doubt because most seats on planes are not the most comfortable.
I’m 6’3 and plane seats have gotten so small that I look like a joke person on a kiddie plane most of the time. If there’s enough headroom, I stand up asap too.
If I get stuck in a window seat, I just have to hope the other people get up so I can angle my legs over into their spot before I die from deep vein thrombosis from having my legs cramped into one position for so long.
I can't wait that long and usually half squat just to feel a moment of blood flow in my legs
Or my bony ass hurts. Seriously, I look like a frog standing up. I don't have a butt, it's just more back.
Stop skipping butt day
I'm constantly shifting around in the seat because my ass hurts.
+1 You're 6'3 and blood stopped circulating in your leg somewhere over Dusseldorf.
Yes but now you get to stand there hunched under the overhead bins
At least the legs are getting stretched out, even if the back isn't.
I never thought I'd experience this. But I was on a short flight that was an hour long. So I was in what I call the tuna can plane. The small city hopper type. When we were getting off the plane, I stood up and full force twatted my head off the overhead bins.
I'm 5 foot... I dunno what dazed me more, the shock or the smack on the head. Lmfao.
Guarantee it happens again when I take that flight soon.
Not if you have an aisle seat
I guess at that low height you can still stand upright
Not quite, but still, at this point anyone above 5'8 have had their knees pressed up against the seat ahead for at least a couple of hours.
A second reasonable case is when entering US feom abroad. Passport check at Ohare is slooooooow, so I always make an effort to get there before most others. I usually don't care about exiting plane early, but I do care about maximizing the time spent drinking beer in a lounge, compared to standing in line.
I often fly from Europe to Houston via Chicago, and how early I get out of the transatlantic flight can mean up to 90 minutes less queuing.
Guessing you’re not American. Having Global Entry makes O’Hare a breeze. Usually through passport control in 2-3 minutes.
Correct. I don't qualify for global entry, but i do have a TWIC which allows me TSA Prescreened as a known traveler, at least.
Yeah I’ve seen them short change the number of officers in the non-American lines, it’s just stupid. And they haven’t moved to digital processing of foreigners like London does.
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As a 6’ person, standing up is the only way to immediately relieve the excruciating pain in my legs from being jammed into a tiny seat for 3 hours. I’ll let everyone in front of me go first, and help people get their bag out. Me standing doesn’t harm you at all. Deal with it.
Edit: quit telling me how it doesn’t hurt your legs or some shit. We are not the same
It amazes me that people don't get this. As a guy who flew two to three times a week. There was nothing better than standing up as soon as I was able to. Because Jesus fucking Christ, my knees were screaming at me so loud I was about to cry.
Exactly. And what harm does it do?
“Oh no I can’t see the front of the plane”.
1/4 of the people are now ready to deboard, how dare they!
I enjoy the part where I get someone’s ass in my face for 5 minutes while everyone waits for the jet bridge and the front of the plane to disembark.
Having your carry on in order and knowing where your bag is located is the key to actually getting yourself off the plane quickly. I personally find putting my overhead bag in the bin on the opposite side of the aisle makes it dead simple to grab and go as then it takes no additional time vs me just getting up and going. Reach, pull, walk.
Used to fly like 100+ times a year for many years before covid. Had a lot of time to think about how to get off a plane quickly and efficiently.
I enjoy when the guy across the aisle puts his shit in my overhead bin and then sticks his dick in my face for 5 minutes to get it. But heaven forbid I stand up because I have been in constant pain for hours.
I mean, that sucks that sitting gives you incredible pain. It surprises me to see how many people have problems sitting for a long time. I get the seats aren’t the most comfortable. I like to try to straighten my legs out under where the smaller carry on goes because I do get discomfort on long flights if I do just sit there and don’t get up at some point, especially on long flights. I don’t get the comment about “your bin” like bins are assigned or something. Glad I’m not one of those pricks putting their dick in your face for 5 minutes though. Definitely a dick move.
Imagine being a bit taller so you can’t stretch your legs out. Imagine your knees jammed against the hard plastic seat frame for that entire flight. Imagine the seat being much lower than your knees so all your weight is on your back instead of spread on the seat. Imagine that effing headrest digging into your back the entire flight.
And of course, imagine the tray able can’t be opened flat because your knees are there. Imagine seats narrower that your shoulders, hips, rib cage. Imagine the seat back screen that’s so far below eye level that sometimes it’s easier to just watch whatever the people in front of you are watching
I used the phrase "my bin" instead of "the bin directly above me" for brevity. My apologies. And you are one of those pricks, you just don't know it.
Well no but ok. Whatever makes you feel happy. Almost every time I let the row across from me go first unless I need to get moving and in the event I don’t, I’m not a huge beast of a person where I have to invade everyone’s space. I’m also not part t-rex with baby arms.
Why didn't you just stand up during the flight?
I do. I also stand at the end. I have bad knees. How does that baffle so many?
As another 6' person, you're clogging the aisle and making it take longer for people to gather their overhead luggage. Two more minutes isn't going to kill either of us. And maybe spring for aisle seats next time so you can stretch out a bit if it's that big a problem for you.
another benefit to being 5'6". Is this what Trump meant by being "tired of winning?"
(I'm kidding, sending love to my tall kings out there)
I'm 6'2" and I've never had a problem. Sure my knees almost touch the seat in front of me, but that's it.
Must be nice to be you and not me, unfortunately I’m not so lucky. 6’ is a generalization. Did you consider the possibility that we’ve flown on different airlines with varying seat sizes?
I am 6"4". I keep sitting even though my legs are pressed in the seat before me. Because everything is better than standing with my back hunched over like a crooked banana. Hurts my back like crazy
Also 6’4”, but I have knee problems as opposed to back problems so I’m in the standing up group. My dad has chronic back pain though, so I can totally see your point of view. I would which back problems on my worst enemy after seeing him suffer with it for decades.
Ok, fine, but that doesn’t explain the 5’1’’ who also stand up and immediately begin to ask tall people (probably like you) to get carry-on luggage down so it can be uncomfortably held in some weird Twister-pose interlocked with all the other idiots who can’t understand that they’ll be facing four other queues before they are home.
YOU might have a solid reason to race to the starting line. But come on: Most don’t!
Why does anyone need a "good reason"?
He he. I live in the U.K. If you don’t have a good reason, the tutting from others might increase to even audible levels, causing you endless social shame.
Imagine living on top of other people. They can look into your garden. They can see into your house. They are right next to you; on the trains, on the roads, in the tube. In that environment, the game of “who’s judging who” is strong. Welcome to the U.K.
I’m aware in the US, you don’t need a good reason to exercise your God Given Right to stand up when you God Damn Please and if anybody has any God Damn Thing to say to you, they better grab for the concealed carry.
But int he U.K., we we have swapped loaded firearms for social derision and it hurts almost as much as lead bullets.
...ok? Not sure how other people being up their own ass about what harmless thing you're doing qualifies as a "good reason". And whether you succumb to peer pressure like a wet straw is really besides the point.
Ah man, chill, I’m just here for the shits and giggles. Feel free to stand up next to me anytime you like. But be aware I’m secretly wondering why.
If standing up for a few minutes at the end helps, why not stand up for a few minutes during?
Why not stand up during the flight?
Why does it matter?
You say you stand up right away because you've been jammed into your seat for hours, so I'm wondering why you didn't stand up during the flight. Then you wouldn't be jammed in for hours...
I don’t know about op but I generally don’t stand during a flight despite the pain because I don’t want to be on everyone’s way. If you can’t get an aisle seat, getting up means making people in those seats get up. Aisle are too narrow to pass so if the flight attendants are out, you may need to edit their full routine. If you’re just standing there maybe you’re blocking someone beefing to use the bathroom.
Most importantly I don’t get up because trying to unfold myself from that torture device is a process. I can’t do it quickly. I can’t do it without leaning in something I can’t do it without sticking my butt out from being bent over under the bins. By the time I get into the aisle and get the kinks out do I can walk, the entire situation may have changed so now I’m blocking someone again
That sounds awful, I'm sorry you have to go through that. They have those extra leg room exit row seats, but they seem to allocate them at random instead of to tall people.
Entitled is the wrong word. Ignorant is the right word
It's the people that push to get their bags out asap. You also get the morons that can't sit down when the seat belt sign is on at take off.
Are you not allowed to stand up during flights where you're from? 15 minutes take off/landing & taxiying isn't torture.
Sitting for three whole hours? Jesus some people really have it rough.
It's more like sitting for 3 hours with your legs crammed into somebody else's back
Some people are a bit taller. Think of it more like three hours perching on a toddlers stool with sharp plastic corners digging into your knees. Think of it as three hours hunched over from the “head rest” digging into your back. Think of it as three hours with your arms pulled tight into your lap so you’re not elbowing your neighbor. Think of it as three hours sitting twisted so everyone’s shoulders fit together like jigsaws since seats aren’t wide enough for shoulder to shoulder
Some* people have bad backs or joint problems, you acorn
I'm just standing up because I want to stretch my legs.
Ok but on many (most?) flights you could have done that while at cruising altitude. Why wait until just after you land?
Edit: I was not aware this was a controversial question.
The staff generally frown at the idea of pacing up, and down the plane.
But you can't pace up and down the plane straight after landing either. But I doubt anyone would care if you stood up to stretch your legs 30 mins before landing?
You'd think, but apparently people are picky enough about what others do to care that they stand up shortly after landing, so who knows
Just go too the loo, dont pee(wash your face or something) and return to your. Can't frown on you for that
Every opinion is controversial, this is the internet
No it isn't!
Your face is controversial!
Why do you care? Just let them stand when they want.
I'm about to pee my pants, let me off asap....
You laugh, but shaving off 1.7 seconds is enough for a dedicated speedrunner to set up a new world record of
Getting the fuck off the fucking airplanein the categoryfull capacity, window seatYou hide in the first-class bathroom before they tell everyone to buckle for landing. If the crew pushes that you get out, play diarrhea sounds and say you are in pain.
As all the people saying they stand up to stretch their legs imply- we shouldn't be mad at the jerks who get up to get off the plane first, we should be mad at the airlines for packing planes so full that there's not a reasonable amount of leg room unless you pay a premium for it.
I have noticed that people in first class are often still sitting there when I leave in coach. And I don't jump up to be the first off the plane.
I find it comical to watch all the people in a hurry to stand in a line for 5 mins before the door even opens. Even for long west-east coast flights I can manage to sit for a few more minutes.
It's the same with boarding. I just wait till most of the line is done so I don't have to fight to get to my seat.
The main reason against waiting to board is that they'll gate-check your carry-on bag on full flights.
And it's waiting for you when you get off the flight.
This depends. Some flights will check it all the way to your final destination.
To be fair to some, I'd wanna stand just out of the fact that sitting on airplanes can be uncomfortable especially for long flights.
My knees get really sore and stiff sitting bent for a long time, I need to stand up when I can. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane 95% of the time (unless late for a tight connection obviously) but I can see how it'd look like that.
1.7 seconds seems generous imo. In my experience you gain nothing as despite standing up you still end up waiting for the rows ahead of you to leave first. Maybe that's a UK thing as we love to queue.
Nope, it's a US thing too.
They say "Please remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete stop" for a reason.
Fun fact, it is technically illegal for a plane to taxi unless all passengers are seated and strapped in.
Mandatory Carlin https://youtu.be/vdPy5Ikn7dw?si=wHp4lMpU8mg4Av7b
I just get off last... So much less stressful.
If you wait long enough, they will even come carry you out...it's a bit stressful though.
Just say hello to your friend Jack and they'll get you off right away.
I feel personally attacked
Good
That's just your neck pain from having to awkwardly hunch over until it's actually time to deplane.
Not when he has to wait for baggage claim
Or immigration
I one-bag, and shave my minutes off by skipping baggage claims.
I'm usually out of the airport before the pack-mules leave, hauling their baggage.
This is the way, fuck the carousel*
(If you're able, sometimes a trip legit needs more gear but I truly feel less often than people usually pack whole-ass suitcases)
I stand up because staying seated for 2 hours is uncomfortable (and probably unhealthy), fight me.
you can stand up and walk during flight though
You could wait just 2 minutes more or stand up but not enter the aisle and just stay where your seat is
Waiting 2 minutes is possible. Standing up in an airplane seat, unless you're very short, is not. You can see that just from the picture in the post.
That said, it's usually a lot more like 15 minutes. But I still don't stand up.
True tallish people will face trouble standing up. The main issue once people stand up, the aisle gets crowded and then deplaning is not all orderly. It would be nice if people allowed deplaning in a controlled way so that the people near exit disembark first and we advance row wise in an orderly fashion. Unfortunately this never happens
Sure, but it would also be nice if airlines didn't put space between chairs so tight that most people do not have a comfortable amount of leg room.
And no, "tallish" people will not be the only ones facing trouble standing up. I am of average height. I cannot stand up in my seat on a plane.
What I would give to live in a world where user/customer experience was prioritised over squeezing as much profits as possible.
I guess that depends on the country. In mine the average height is only around 170cm for men and around 160cm for women so less of an issue. In countries like the Netherlands, the average height(for men) is around 185cm so for them even 'short' people will face issues.
I'm only slightly taller than that and I have to bend my head way down.
I have no idea why you're arguing that you can comfortably stand up in an airplane seat without being very short when just looking at the picture shows that you can't. Unless every single person standing is really tall and so is the guy bending way down while trying to stand in his seat.
But hey, what am I going to believe, you or my own eyes?
Frankly neither do I. I guess I was bored at the office and was just curious to look up the average height statistics. Your are right though. Fuck the airlines. They should give us more head room and leg room
You could argue that standing up immediately helps unload faster. Standing up not only helps get rid of the pain of being crammed in an airline seat but I immediately get my duffle from the overhead so when it’s my turn to go, I go. Meanwhile the people who haven’t gotten up block the aisle while struggling to get their bags
That's what I do usually, the aisle is already full of Italians.
As usual in posts about this, I'll ask - what's the huge fuss with people caring about this? Who is it hurting? Regardless of any impatience they may or may not have, it's just nice to stand up after sitting for several hours. And if they're ready to go, that's less time for the people behind them to wait.
Personally I don't really care about the act of standing up but if I'm in the aisle seat its not that fun at the end of a long flight to have somebody's arse about two inches from your face whilst waiting for disembarking to start.
It's just one of those instances where people's self-importance over others is on full display, so it's aggravating.
In what was is it a sign of "self-importance"? It's just standing up. Unless they're pushing their way past people or getting otherwise aggressive about it, it means nothing other than they would rather stand. Hell, they could be doing it so as to not hold people up deboarding after them.
could be self importance. could be that you have another flight or bus to catch, so it won't do to just hang out until everyone leaves.
But they're doing it differently than me ಠ︵ಠ
Some people just went to stretch their legs and stand up. It's simple.
This is brilliant timing. I read this sitting at the gate for a short hall flight. There was still a lot of time before the flight and they announced "can Anna something please come to the desk", and about 40 people (I counted as had so much time still) stood up and rushed to queue up and then had to stand up for another 30 minutes until it actually started boarding...
It was a cheap airline so overhead space can be difficult but I really don't get the people who rush to sit down in the tight horrible seats (designated seating btw) waiting for everyone else to sit.
We arrived and then the picture happened of course...
You answered your own question. I can't remember the last flight I had that didn't announce that they were going to need to check some people's carry-ons. As someone that purposefully avoids letting the TSA manhandle my luggage, I'm going to do what I can to avoid that.
For a while now here in Europe, they charge more for bags that don't fit under the seat and let you check in one bag for free you used to be able to take on the flight so unless most people are paying extra for that, which I wouldn't believe would be the case if they're flying these cheap airlines, I don't think that is the issue
People standing up is fine for me. What I hate is when these people move into the aisle before the plane has stopped moving and then crowd the aisle in such a way that deplaning in a controlled and orderly fashion is no longer possible.
I'm convinced the only people that complain about this shit are tiny little 4'2" assholes who cant fathom that normal sized humans being crammed into a tuna can of a seat isnt just uncomfortable, its downright painful... So painful in fact that I will literally jump out of my seat the microsecond I am able to, just to end the constant incurring pain.
I'm above average height, and after I get off a plane I have to go take a big dose of tylenol and spend half the day laying in bed for the pain and misery to go away.
and thats with paying extra for aisle seat so I can stretch oneleg out every 30 minutes when no ones walking by.
You know you can like get out of the seat during the flight?
No shit, really?
I guess that magically erases all the fucking negatives of being crammed in, then!
Thank god for you and your wise insight! How many people have suffered without this precious, divine knowledge?
Getting in and out of those seats when you're over 5' 10" is like getting out of a child's lawn chair or a beanbag chair with arthritis and an oversized backpack. So every attempt is a feat of gymnastics of extricating your sore skeleton with cramped muscles with only the back of another passenger's chair as leverage with a low overhead to avoid. It's like doing contortionist work while hungover. And if you're not in the aisle seat, you gotta get 1-2 people to get up so you can pass them.
Exactly. These short pocket sized motherfuckers got no idea what its like, lol.
But earlier you wrote that getting out of your seat ends the pain. Perhaps this is only true when the plane has landed?
Go to the bathroom every hour even if you don't have to.
I'd rather be pained and miserable, than be pained, miserable, and covered in other peoples... fluids.
Ok ok chill you could have made your point with like 30% less angst
Because the seats on aircraft are fucking torture devices, and the sooner I can stand up the less pain and discomfort I'm in.
I stand up when we land sometimes to stretch my legs, not to hurry out. Generally I sit back down after a minute or two, because they feel better.
I've always assumed that they eventually realize they've misjudged the time to stand up, but most decide to commit like they meant to do it instead of sitting back down.
I'm a large man at 6' 2" with large shoulders. I am crammed into the small economy seats trying not to spill over into the seat next to me (most often occupied by my wife) or the aisle. God forbid the person in front of me lean back their seat. I've tried wear knee pads to save my knees. At the end of any flight over two hours, I just need to stretch my legs. I get up, but I'm not trying to get off the plane. I'm just trying to de-acordian myself.
I typically try and get front row on flights, or at least the row next to an actual exit and I only take hand luggage. If I can get my hand luggage and get off first I get to passport control and get out much quicker than people who wait and end up at the back of the passport queue, and even further ahead of those that do baggage claim.
I can easy save 30 minutes if not more doing this. Obviously its not going to work every flight but it works more often than not. It's particularly worthwhile if you catching a taxi at the other end as you can short cut the queue at smaller airports.
However I don't see the point if you have way down the plane and/or have checked bags, other than leg cramps.
I do this for a couple reasons.
I had a discussion with someone in another thread like this that had the opposite comprehension issue and could not understand why people in their row were frustrated with them just sitting there while the entire plane deboarded, because they were waiting for the aisle to be clear 🤦♂️
I've done this once or twice. Sometimes nature calls at very inconvenient times.
I stay seated until i can get up and leave without queueing. Usually I walk past the whole plane while going to the exit because they are lost, on the phone, waiting for friend, being retarded.
fuck planes
There are also some phobias involved here. It's very common to be afraid of close and tiny spaces and heights, even literally afraid to fly, which is translated to be inside something that flies. A lot of people travels for business and have asshole bosses, so I can't blame them for being in the rush to get some place in time.
If it's only a 2-hour flight, there's probably a better way to get there.
As somebody who flights today a 2h flight....
checks map again
13h hours car drive (without stops so probably more)
checks public transport
11h 30 in train with at least 4 or more trains changes....
Nope.... Still faster by plane, well unless they cancel it or similar ..
Flight is airport to airport. You neither live or reside at either airport. Measure door to door for a more accurate comparison, I don't fly from my driveway to my destinations back garden when I get a plane. I have to gget to the airport on a train, check in, go through security, wait for delays, wait at baggage collection and get a cab on the other side.
It's not going to change the outcome but if you're going to use numbers to measure a difference, try to consider all the facts.
Oh yeah sure.
In my case even adding the time on airport reaching it etc and even with my shitty connections as I live in a small town still much less. Of course that changes if there is a cancellation or similar.
And those numbers I provided was the car/train from big city to big city near airport of departure and arrival. Not the towns I end up going to, because they are much less.communciqted and adds more time.
It's much cheaper for an average person to fly from Slovakia to London than to go through, like 3 countries by train/car and in the tunnel/on a ferry.
If money is your only consideration when travelling 700miles (about how far 2h flight usually is) then I don't consider you a reasonable and functional member of society, especially if you're travelling with others.
Please consider your effect on the environment when travelling, cars can take a lot more than one person.
London to Marseille is a 2h flight (probably 5-6h if you include door to door airport travel and waiting) but driving takes just under 12h. If you say you can't afford the cost of the ferry, then consider why are you getting a plane in the first place?
Small compromises can be made to make the world a better place, so remember you have options.
Holy shit. Did you think for ever a split second before typing that comment?
Money, for most people who are not well off, IS THE BIGGEST CONSIDERSTION.
I am not a functioning member of society, if I can't afford to spare multiple times amount of money and time to lug myself, in my shitty car for 18+ hours or in public transportation for 22+ hours to see MY FAMILY like once every 2 years.
Because it's individuals who caused global warming, right? Not the corporations, who knew of it for decades and didn't give a shit in pursuit of higher profits.
I seriously hope this is a troll and you are not actually that idiotic and/or smug.
HOLY SHIT, did you even think before replying to my comment?
Why are you flying between cities if you can't afford to eat your breakfast in the morning. You're a fucking comic
If you take all the individuals off this planet there will be no global warming, don't cope yourself behind major corporations. They are run by individuals you moron. Individuals which would lower their plane fleet if the demand reduced.
You're a deluded cop out kid which isn't worth anyone's time
You are fucking pathetic.
If you think I am such a monster for seeing MY FUCKING FAMILY every 2 years thats your problem. Not mine.
Perhaps yours doesn't love you enough for you to want to visit them.
You are a complete fucking moron who has no idea what the fuck you are even talking about. Its morons like you who give climate activists a bad rep.
Go eat a bag of dicks
When I checked just now it's 13 hours.
That's a lot and you shouldn't drive for that long uninterrupted.
The train apparently takes 7 hours which is much more reasonable.
And of course cost matters.
Btw that trip to London from where I live is either a 2 hour flight or 22-23 hours with train/car
"If you can't afford to go to your brother's funeral by car, but can afford a plane ticket, you're a waste to civilization and should be put down!"
Yep exactly what I said, to the letter!
Not in the U.S, generally
Oslo-Trondheim is either 7 hour drive or a 45 min flight. Not everyone are blessed with flat countries and fast trains.
Terrible comparison. Door to door with up to four people and baggage it's a 7h drive, that 45min flght is not door to door..
My nearest airport is 30 mins to the train station, 15mins walk to the lobby 60mins in check-in, 60mins contingency waiting at the gate, then 45mins flight which is probably delayed 15 mins. Then another 15 mins waiting to get off the plane, then 20mins waiting for baggage and another 60mins to get to your destination.
Yes it's probably still faster, but don't try to compare a flight to a drive in the way you just did lol
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
It's 45min flight + 40 min bus to the airport + ~30 min wait for on boarding (not a lot of security theater/long queues). Let's add another 40 min for takeoff and getting my luggage. 40 min bus from the airport to Oslo for a total of 3 hours and 15 min.
It's literally more time on the bus than on the plane, especially for those of us who don't live in Oslo and need to take the bus for even longer.
If I were to be realistic with the drive, I would add another hour to the drive as you'll likely want to stop to eat during the drive. That's half the time of what it takes to drive.
I'll drive during the summer since I can stop halfway through and take a short hike in the mountains before continuing, but during the winter you run the risk of the roads getting shut down if the weather is bad over the mountains.
You're welcome, I'm sure those 2 flights per year by someone who doesn't even own a car and probably never will is ruining the environment lmao.
Yeah my point wasn't that it's faster to drive, my point was your original comparison was unfair.
What you've described is far more accurate representation of the choices and their durations.
You ended up multiplying your "time it takes on the plane" by over four times. It went from "45m" to "3h15m" which was the main point I wanted to get at.
Secondly, it is an undeniable fact that flying has a larger effect on the environment per person than driving even a shitty old car. Don't try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say "so what". Remember this next time you fly (2 per year alone is a lot btw).
I'm not going to try to argue what choices you should make, just be educated in the effect of those choices.
I feel like the added time to and from the airport is something everyone are aware of, it's pretty much the same regardless of flight time. The flight is still a 45 min flight. I don't work for "big air flight", so I don't have anything to gain on convincing someone that flying is more time effective for certain trips.
In what world is 2 flights per year a lot? It's a single round-trip.
My buddy who works as a robotics mechanic flies every month for his work, my old man working off-shore flies 4 times every month. Your typical family/couple will take a trip or two on vacation every year. I feel like the odd one out since I got a cabin where I spend my vacation instead of seeing the world.
I'm not trying to "cop out", why would I make excuses for strangers on the internet? I don't feel any guilt for what's a literal drop in the ocean. There are other glaring issues that I'm more concerned about than flight traffic. If you hold a different opinion that's fine and I'm happy to hear it.
I'm purely sharing my opinion on a site dedicated for that. It's a good way to get perspective and opinions from people across cultures and at different stages of life.
There is indeed in most of the world, in the form of intercity and high speed rail. There used to be the former in a way bigger proportion of North America than there is now.
Or at least, there really should be
If I find out my mother is dying and I want to make it there before she dies, I'd rather take a two-hour flight than a seven-hour drive.
So no, not always.
So, just take the flight in the rare case that it's an emergency, and otherwise check if there's a better option
We cannot have airlines that exist purely for emergencies unless they are so cost-prohibitive that they are only usable by the rich. In order to have airplanes criss-crossing the world for that purpose, they have to work on a regular basis.
That is not a tenable way to do things.
Almost like speedrunning cabinet near bed, which speedrunners hit with legs, so they can skip waking-up animation.
As soon as it lands? Wouldn't you get flung forward by the deceleration?
Forward and up, probably killing you when you break your neck on the ceiling.
I'm going to keep standing anyway. Have fun sitting there.
Also rushing onto the elevator or train before people can get off can save 0 seconds on your commute to work. $lifehack
I will gladly look like an ass and stand up first. Fuck planes bro
That'll show 'em
Gonna wait at the baggage carousel SO FAST
Look at this rook using bag check.
As god is my witness I do not understand why anyone complains about this. There are many good reasons to stand up and try to get off the plane quickly, and it hurts almost nobody (unless you get in someone else's way, but that won't happen unless the other person gets up early as well).
"man shaves 1.7 sheconds off 2-hour flight by shtanding up as shoon as plane lands"
I've never heard of saving off something.
By The Shovel
I fly quite frequently and you get up so you can start gathering your stuff and get ready as fast as possible. I usually offer the person next to me a chance to get up and if they don't, I do.