Spyke
lemmy.world

Arch user should be an aeropress: people can't seem to shut the hell up about how great it supposedly is

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

It's aeropress, did you even read the wiki???

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Prunebuttreply
feddit.de

Just pretend it's a V60.

I brew with a V60, btw.

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lemmy.world

I don't know shit about coffee, so I'm assuming you mean you make your coffee with a mid-size Volvo estate car. Pretty impressive.

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dalekcaanreply
lemm.ee

I have an aeropress. I have yet to take the time to figure out how to use my aeropress.

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Cowbeereply
lemm.ee

100c water, 12g coffee per 200g water, pour 50g water into press then wait 30sec, stir, add the rest, add the press so the water doesnt flow, wait 2 more minutes then press down until hiss.

Easy peasy.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Stopping when you hear the hiss is important, if you don't you'll press the bitter nasty part into your coffee

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barsoapreply
lemm.ee

Well it says 80C water up to IIRC the first line but are you really sure about that? Also what about your grind settings?

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I think it is pretty great tbh, just havent tried it yet as it is very manual

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You get to choose between burnt-tasting black coffee and a pint of milk with more syrup than espresso!

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Worse, expensive coffee that tastes mediocre, but they insist they were the first ones to add flavourings to it.

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lemmy.ca

Torvalds eating raw coffee beans straight from the can

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diggerreply
lemmy.ca

Stallman prefers to refer to it as Coffee + Creamer.

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Stallman dips his toe into the coffee before he drinks it

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lemmy.ml

i drink instant coffee because i just dont care anymore.

chromebook user

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hglmanreply
lemmy.ml

Chromebook is paying for coffee at a coffee shop.

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Chromebook is the coffee from the coffee machine in my university, which no one ever uses, and no one is certain has ever been cleaned

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Nah, Starbucks is MacOS.

It's more expensive than it needs to be, but it looks really pretty, and fundamentally it's still coffee, just like MacOS is Unix-based under the hood.

A chromebook is more like a can of coke. It's caffeinated, has mass-market appeal, but nobody's going to be spending hours talking about just how great their can of coke is vs. someone else's can of coke. A high-end chromebook is maybe a glass bottle of Mexican Coke.

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Instant coffee is windows, but you pirated it and disabled automatic updates. Cheap, kinda shitty, but it gets the job done.

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The barista also puts up a partition while making it, so you have to trust them not to spit in it.

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Rocky Linux: A Youtube video entitled "Latte art 101: How to make the perfect barista coffee at home!"

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True. Very classy, kinda annoying and also fancy. Kinda complex but simple concept behind it.

You have to repeatedly clean up the mess but its also rather easy to shake out. So semi automatic updates.

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I feel like an idiot for taking so long to get one. After i brought it, a friend regifted me a milk frother. Zap the milk for 30 seconds and whip and you've got a barista drink at home.

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DrRatsoreply
lemmy.ml

Absolutely yes to the first part, just use archinstall. The second is in large part up to you, but pacman + AUR are amazing.

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Yeah, this is the way, doing it manually is fun and all but its highly unnecessary extra effort as there are very little reasons as all of it is just configuration of the system. Archinstall is just the Text-GUI version that still offers the customize ability of the install. Heck you can load a configuration file that you can make before hand so that you don't need to babysit the installation and can reproduce it in other systems/PCs.

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Arch is a doddle these days, but still has excellent documentation, which was always it's strength (archwiki is life), read, learn. Personally it led me via fedora for stability to immutable ublue kinoite. When NixOS is there (stable), so shall I be, in the meantime I am happy with a distrobox arch with the AUR for all my random needs...

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It is very manual though. For rolling release BTRFS snapshots like on Fedora and Opensuse Tumbleweed are a total must.

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Bradreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well now I’m kind of weirded out to find others in these comments that are also exactly this

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lemmy.world

I'm really sad there isn't a French press on here. That's what I use and I was hoping to discover what my coffee distro is :-(

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I’m really sad there isn’t a French press on here

Nor a moka pot, which is my preferred way.

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lemmy.world

Seeing as how the grounds are still sitting in the finished product, I'm going to say BSD but you don't clear out the ports tree.

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keefshapereply
lemmy.ca

As a French press user, I also opt for easier routes to Arch (EndeavourOS), and my head canon says so do we all.

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keefshapereply
lemmy.ca

Still scarred from my first Arch introduction years ago, I guess. Before it did.

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feddit.de

Couldn't be more wrong for me, lol

Also, I feel like instant coffee should be represented - it's one of the most common preparation methods and it's easy to dunk on.

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Good idea! Maybe more specifically a live usb distro, like Puppy, Knoppix etc?

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feddit.de

Some instant coffee is just fine if you add milk. IMO it's better than the cheap filter coffee that a lot of people I know drink.

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barsoapreply
lemm.ee

Not even close. French presses are way larger, holding a can instead of a mug, generally glass, and are pure immersion brewers while aeropresses are immersion/infusion hybrids, giving you way more options. The grind sizes you use are also vastly different: French press grind is coarse to survive the long immersion, while people generally grind for aeropress in between filter coffee and espresso fineness -- roughly what supermarkets sell as espresso fine (which it isn't, espresso fine grind is basically the consistency of talcum powder and spoils within minutes).

And while it wouldn't be right to claim that you can use them to make actual espresso you can use them to make concentrates that come darn close, definitely appropriate for a cappuccino, or tiramisu. You really don't want to make concentrates with immersion.

Oh and by default aeropresses use paper filters, while French presses use sieves. Preferences differ but as you can get sieves for the aeropress again you have more options.

In short, it's the brewer for someone who cares about coffee, probably has a (hand) grinder (and a mere chestnut at that), avoids buying any supermarket coffee and knows a source of proper but non-fancy beans, but doesn't really want to go full nerd about it. Also, isn't a hipster paying through their nose to get a Hario filter holder and papers in a Melitta region (or the opposite), or gets a ceramic filter holder which only means you have to heat it up... no upsides. Speaking of nerds.

In even shorter, it's at a very very solid performance vs. fuss sweetspot. At least if you're making a mug of coffee, if you need to supply a table full of guests... honestly if I had to do it right now I'd throw grinds and water into a pot, wait a bit, then filter the whole thing through an ordinary kitchen sieve followed by an ordinary paper filter holder, and hope for the best.

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Tea is way more complicated. Wanna hear about my Yixing pot?

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Y'all acting like 10 years is a long time... I expect that to be the minimum out of any capital expense for a "durable" good.

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So... which version of Debian are you running at the moment?

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Nah since 2008 according to Wikipedia. But I feel like Asahi would be a siphon coffee maker

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FaeDrifterreply
midwest.social

Voidlinux

Nobody else can tell that the end product is any different, but you know you're different and special and that's what matters.

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DreamButtreply
lemmy.world

How dare you. Everyone that I force to try my coffee says it’s amazing!

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_cnt0reply
sh.itjust.works

Nobody else can tell that the end product is any different, but you know you're different and special and that's what matters.

Say you have never used a french press without saying you've never used a french press.

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Funny, I would have said the same about voidlinux.

I think a common misconception about voidlinux is that it's a distro solely used by people who have made it their lifegoal to tell people about how bad systemd is. I use void because it's fast, and frankly because I like the way void does stuff. I feel like many people in the community are much more indifferent to systemd than people realize.

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FaeDrifterreply
midwest.social

French press is the only way I have to make coffee at home, and I make one every day.

It's called humor, it's not supposed to be taken literally.

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I'm offended, but then I had to acknowledge that I've been using Debian since 1995.

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sh.itjust.works

I use Ubuntu and that is literally the coffee machine I use... Except I don't use the actual cups, I'm basically only using it as a source of hot water, and instead I use different cups that are reusable, and just are there to hold the coffee grounds. And similarly, I got flathub on Ubuntu, installed shit to get appimages working, and accidentally uninstalled gnome at one point, which took me an hour to fix mostly because it just stopped at a terminal I couldn't input anything on, so I had to figure out that I could open up a new one that would actually let me log in and reinstall gnome.

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mostly because it just stopped at a terminal I couldn't input anything on, so I had to figure out that I could open up a new one that would actually let me log in and reinstall gnome

Ctrl + Alt + F3

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The problem was more that I didn't even know what I was looking at. It just stopped at a screen with terminal output from it booting up, so I thought it was just stuck... After a bit I found something on an arch forum that mentioned opening up a new terminal instance (or something like that), and how to do it, which led me to realize that gnome got uninstalled.

Once I figured that out it only took 5 minutes to fix, but I only found that after an hour of assuming that it was frozen and trying to fix that.

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No_
lemm.ee

French press? ? ?

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TheWoozyreply
lemmy.world

SUSE: now with oils on the surface and sludge on the bottom

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Looks complicated to the uninitiated, works fairly quickly and simply to those that are familiar with coffee, but the output is divided between those that believe it to be a superior product for the commitment and those that don't see it as worth it compared to other methods.

Sounds just like Fedora lol

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If you've used an espresso machine you will know that every single small change, even new fresh beans, fucks up the setup and you have to dial everything again, so I think it fits better with another one. I use arch btw.

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I feel like arch is the espresso machine and Gentoo is a pile of espresso machine parts.

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SuperDuperreply
lemmy.world

You snort that raw, uncut TempleOS and look God in the face every time you boot your machine up.

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... you already read my comment about temple and Hannah Montana, right? This isn't a meme.

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I'm trying to compile my own mix of temple and Hannah Montana to get the most effective least bloat os possible.

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lemm.ee

If I make cold brew for 2 weeks at a time with a bucket and a fish pump what distro am I?

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Slackware is the 50 year old percolator in the break room of the DMV.

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Damn, got me. Debian user, been using a basic Cuisinart bean to cup for years.

The heating element broke in my original machine earlier this year. Bought a used one of the exact same model with a broken water reservoir cover and carafe lid then transplanted those parts from my old machine.

Plan to use Debian unless it stops being developed or I die. Plan to use my Thinkpad until it dies. Also plan to use that same model of bean to cup machine unless I can't find replacements when they inevitably die.

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It does not recommend a coffee prep method for Tumbleweed and I really need some caffeine. Please help. Quick.

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In the army, when on sentry - no light, no noise, no fire - we'd open the pack of instant, swish it around with a mouthful of water, swallow through the regret. Not an LFS user, though.

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Does this work the other way? Can I pick a disto based on my preferred method? I mostly drip brew, using the aeropress occasionally, but dream about having a fancy espresso setup.

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It's ok, Ubuntu breaks if you actually try to use it to make coffee, and when you try to service it you find mold and sludge in the pipes.

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xePBMg9reply
lemmynsfw.com

I'm a tea enthusiast as well. I run arch and only have an idea of what I'm doing half the time.

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I see there's a lot of tea enthusiasts who use arch around. Maybe there's something to explore here. I drink tea btw.

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I can’t have caffeine and I use ubuntu

Checkmate

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lemmy.ca

What's Windows? Instant coffee with cuddled cream

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Zorquereply
kbin.social

Windows is Hot Cocoa. It's comforting and warm, but not really what you're wanting right now. And probably not great for you.

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lemmy.world

No that would be Linux Mint (comforting and warm part anyways). Windows would be a coffee ad

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Windows would be coffee from a national chain, but when you take the lid off, there's an ad under it, there's an ad on the side of the cup, and at the very bottom of the cup there's an ad that you don't see until you've drank all the coffee. Oh and it comes with cream and sugar by default, even if you prefer it black. It also comes with ads for a subscription to a cream and sugar delivery service.

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I think Windows is hot chocolate from an instant packet where you just add hot water.

It's objectively pretty bad, it's definitely not coffee, but it's easy to make, and you get the same standard thing every time.

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lemmy.world

What if I pour the grounds and water directly into the cup and just drink around them?

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lemmy.world

I'm to lazy to do my homework. Can anyone explain what's wrong with Ubuntu?

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Neshurareply
bookwormstory.social

Not too deep in that conversation but afaik it's a series of choices that just continuously make Ubuntu less usable.

from what I "know" it seems to be mostly:

  • the baffling decision to keep riding the dead Snap train instead of the now widespread Flatpak one.
  • some drama around them switching from Gnome 2 -> Own Desktop -> Gnome 3 and related decisions, not sure what the problems there were but apparently a lot of people didn't like it.
  • some stuff about telemetry, not sure how relevant this is currently but I heard some people complain about it.

Again, not really sure that's it but it's what I recall hearing here and there.

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Hiro8811reply
lemmy.world

What distro would you suggest? I abandoned windows 10 for Ubuntu but it didn't grew on me. I know Linux Mint is friendlier but I thought giving Ubuntu a try

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Neshurareply
bookwormstory.social

Depends on your use case honestly. Do you play a lot of games? If so I would recommend against stable distros like Mint. Without knowing more I'd probably say:

  • Mostly Browsing or Work in Office Editors: Linux Mint or Kubuntu since Updates are stable and generally don't break anything.
  • A lot of gaming: Arch via Archinstall or ArcoLinux (ArcoLinux is imo a bit more confusing while getting the image file, after it is superior to ArchInstall for newbies because the installer is a bit more familiar) since you'll benefit from a shortened update cycle. The drawback here is that occasionally (or often depending on what you install) updates break things.

Edit: Also a general recommendation: Stick to Windows-like Desktops for the beginning, these are (to my knowledge) XFCE and more prominently KDE Plasma. It will save you the additional task of getting used to your desktop environment while you get familiar with how Linux "works" as your main OS.

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Hiro8811reply
lemmy.world

I played around with Kali(I know I know) and raspberry pi for a bit and I got the hang of it a bit. Think I'll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming. Thank you for your time.

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Neshurareply
bookwormstory.social

Think I'll go with Mint on one drive for school and such and on the other drive Arch for gaming

Nothing exactly wrong with that but I don't think you'll need the extra layer of separation. Most Apps on Mint should be available Arch as well and run generally as Bug free as on Mint (Edit: a "graphical" representation of what level of Bugginess you can expect: Many Bugs > Some Bugs > Few Bugs > Windows 10 (personal experience) > Arch Linux > Almost no Bugs > Linux Mint > No Bugs). Not splitting the OS would save you some hassle (for example after school work is done you can start gaming faster as well as simpler disk partitioning) on the other hand depending on yourself it might offer advantages (can't get as easily distracted from schoolwork with games if you have to reboot the PC for it)

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Hiro8811reply
lemmy.world

I know that you apps are available across distributions but I wanted to use a stable distro for school that I trust not to brake and another one where I can experience and customize without worrying to much about breaking it.

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as I said nothing wrong with it, just wanted to add some info in case the decision was made based on some misunderstanding. If you think that's the best fit for you go for it

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and they're using gnome 40+ now, but gnome 40 is actually great, unlike gnome 3

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As a commercial OS, it's fine. LTS releases, great headless experience, and dependency graph that is progressive but not as frozen in time as RedHat.

As an end-user OS, the dizzying number of ways to get usable apps into the GUI cut deep against advanced users. Especially when advanced use cases smash into incompatibilities and easy-to-make mistakes that break stuff. But if you're willing to rock a lot of defaults and just slap things together from the package manager, it works okay.

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RHEL is the lukewarm but effective coffee provided by your boss from the economic but agreeable coffee shop chain.

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Mostly brew mine with the chemex, and the occasional moka pot. But I've been running Pop os

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lemm.ee

This meme is fake! Espresso only takes 15 minutes from start to end! At least, if you cut out preheating the machine...

cries

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YodaDaCodareply
sh.itjust.works

I worked out that I can better/ more quickly preheat my portafilter using the water from the kettle for the wife's instant coffee.

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Cowbeereply
lemm.ee

Giga brain Chad over here! Nah, my partner and I wake up at different times, and she doesn't even like coffee in the first place. I usually start preheating my machine before taking a shower in the morning, and that gives enough time for my flair to preheat. All I need to do is manually grind, start the kettle, and do my puck prep, then good to go!

It's honestly a comfy ritual, plus you get to pull a great turbo shot every morning for pennies compared to even a Starbucks, for far better quality. Does it "save" money? No, but it's a hobby I love!

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Windows user: a stovetop percolator because they've had it forever and the coffee it makes is perfectly fine!

(Narrator voice: it's not perfectly fine, the coffee is bitter and burned).

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Great meme! Fedora user with that exact pourover! I dont love that pourover though, but my french press and my glass hario switch broke a year ago. Havent gotten to replacing them, so I just keep making coffee this way. My grinder needs cleaning and service, too. This is where I reveal I'm not on Fedora, but rather Nobara.

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Astroreply
sh.itjust.works

Honestly, when it comes to Chemex vs a normal pourover filter, pourover is faster and feels better to do imo.

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I love my chemex because it's nearly impossible to mess up. As long as my beans are fresh and fresh ground it's going to be a decent cup.

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I mostly drink instant coffee. I'm also a dirty Windows user who mainly uses WSL (with the Ubuntu distro on that) for my Linux needs.

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Gentoo is misrepresented. It is custom-built manufacturing line that massproduces coffee, blackjack and hookers.

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As both an Arch and Ubuntu user who drinks coffee from an aeropress, tea from an infuser, and jenkem from a old crusty sock under my bed, I feel attacked

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So if I'm using one of those single cup keurig-like machines that don't actually use cups, I'm a Mint user?

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I'm a Fedora user, but it I do the pour over method as seen by the Arch (btw) user.

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Checks out for me. Love me some arch and love my pour over coffee maker. Use both everyday btw.

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lemmy.world

Because it is maintained by a for profit company and because I believe it defaults to sending back telemetry data to said company, though you can opt out of that. Those are the reasons I'm aware of anyway.

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Desktop Linux is becoming more mature so there is less need for an "easy" distro. Also, Canonical (company behind Ubuntu) has been pushing their tech (Mir, snaps) instead of contributing to really open alternatives that everyone else uses.

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They had a lot of missteps over the years (e.g. at one point, they shipped with Amazon ads in the OS). Currently it's the way they're pushing Snap (which is a lot like Flatpak, but proprietary and only really used by Canonical (because it's proprietary)).

Plus the whole "it's for noobs" image.

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whalerossreply
lemmy.world

Because some people are desperate to feel superior, clinging to what distro they use when they have nothing else.

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As someone who has been down the rabbit hole, I was running Gentoo with linux-libre with my use flags all set up to install only what my machine and set up needed. This is the correct answer.

I’ve been back on Kubuntu for about 8 years because it works for me.

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pelyareply
lemmy.world

It's a Linux flavor used by novices, it's straightforward to install and requires very little configuration to be usable as a document editing workstation.

So it's apparently for noobs.

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deadcadereply
lemmy.deadca.de

It's used often by novices, because outdated articles keep telling them it's "the best Linux distro". Canonical has gotten very corporate over the last several years, forcing things like snap onto users. Ubuntu used to be the number one user friendly distro, now they shove ads in the terminal. It's not getting hate for being easy to use, it's getting hate for marketing itself as such, then forcing corporate bs on the user (who are often new to Linux). Many other user-friendly distros have not seen the same amount of hate, because they aren't objectively bad.

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Oh man, is this true? Last time I daily drove Ubuntu was like 10 years ago. Ubuntu stood for the "it just works" of Linux. That's so sad they've fallen so far.

I guess I'll wait until Valve rolls a desktop OS.

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Coffee filter machines are also old and reliable, very traditional (where I live, at least; French presses are a newer trend compared to that) and very practical-minded (IMO it usually tastes like crap, but you can make a lot of it at once and it stays warm for a long time).

0

Do me - I use the following methods based on current laziness factor:

  1. French Press + grinder
  2. Aeropress + grinder
  3. super automatic thing with built in grinder

I currently use EndeavourOS / Arch mainly

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Somewhat accurate. I used my last coffee machine for 10ish years, but my grandma used it another 10 before

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lemmy.world

Ubuntu: also now coffee is replaced by soy milk and rat poop. Rejoice.

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ccdfareply
lemm.ee

sudo apt install firefox is all I need to say to justify why I'll never touch Ubuntu again.

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because they bend apt to install snaps first when available?

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The programmable coffee drum roaster is NixOS

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I think Arch. Linux would make sense more as one of those fancy setups you’re always seeing on YouTube. The ones with the awesome ports, and the calming effect. I just started using zorin, and it’s more like one of those top of the line machines that can start the coffee automatically in the morning lol.

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Pour over is just a gateway drug to Espresso down the line, you either go for the simplified Aeropress or the complex espresso.

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As someone who's never drank coffee (yes, really), what distro should I use?

I currently daily-drive Manjaro (Plasma) with Linux Mint 20.3 (Cinnamon) installed as a trusty backup.

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deadcadereply
lemmy.deadca.de

I recommend against using Manjaro, it is poorly maintained and has many downsides compared to something like EndeavourOS (which has a similar goal to manjaro with less downsides).

If you're comfortable using a specific package manager, go with a distro that uses that package manager. If you're already familiar with Mint, something else Debian based might suit your needs.

If you're still looking for the distro that's right for you, make sure to separate your / and /home into different partitions during your next installation. This allows you to switch distros while keeping all your documents and personal files.

If you're unsure which distro to try next, https://distrochooser.de/ gives you a set of questions and ranks distros on what would fit best to your needs.

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Oh, sorry, but that wasn't a serious question. Just going on with the joke. I've been using Manjaro for the past 2 years, and I am happy with it. But I'll probably go with Arch on next install. If Mint still officially supported KDE Plasma, I'd be using that. I know, Kubuntu, but...

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People wtf, this is not stopping to spam my comments.

I get it, you like Coffee!

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According to this I use Debian but my lack of audio, menu bar, and file browser says otherwise

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sh.itjust.works

What about people who have an automatic espresso machine? Grinds the beans then Tampa and brews all with one button? Gotta make sure the settings are perfect. A mix on 2 and 5 I guess.

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arch user should be "is all you need so let me tell you about it for five hours straight"

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It's great, Arch users can explain why i3 works so much better on Arch versus Ubuntu minimal because check notes... the installer of Arch Linux is 15 years behind the competition?

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aussie.zone

I use a mokapot, but I also run fedora on my laptop. What does that make me?

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This needs a coffee siphon as well, might even fit gentoo better than the espresso maker. harder to set up, takes longer but it's different from what everyone else is using ;) great coffee, too

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And the cold-brew cask i use for hot coffee, let it there for a day?

Btw, i use Artix & Void.

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