Reddit is going to remove mods of private communities unless they reopen — ‘This is a courtesy notice to let you know that you will lose moderator status in the community by end of week.’
Reddit has informed moderators of communities that are still private in protest that they will lose their mod status by the end of the week. Thousands of communities went dark earlier this month to push back on the company’s planned API pricing changes.
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Just removing all mods isn’t really the answer. Mods have a purpose, removing them all will lead to chaos in some subs. The John Oliver pictures aren’t just malicious compliance, they are also a taste of things to come without mods. Maybe Automod can remove some of the worst stuff, but excessively posting flowers in a sub for cars is just as detrimental and is totally at the whim of the mods to follow up on this. Since this is all about money, I cannot see a professional moderation team in the books. Additionally professionalized content moderation is much more complicated for Reddit than it is for other companies like Facebook. They just have to check against their “community guidelines”, but Reddit has a lot of cases, where something useful in one sub can be despised in another. I’d like to know what the endgame is.
Once people realize what they can get away with, the REAL trolls, not the John Oliver sexy pics groups, but the joker types with a "watch the world burn" mentality will start making their home there.
Without community moderation or bot tools, it will be like trying to fight a tsunami with a tennis racket.
Well, no, they should first shred (overwrite then delete) all their Reddit comments.
Then they should create a new Lemmy or Kbin community and start posting content.
Then go back to Reddit and point to the new community until they get kicked off for actions detrimental to the financial wellbeing of spez or something.
All the news about reddit over the last few days have made me realise that I no longer personally care.
I mean it's still funny to read about the way subs are protesting, but I haven't been on the site since the protests, and now I don't get angry about the changes anymore. It's a sign that I've finally kicked reddit out of my life after more than a decade on the platform.
I was leaving the site for a while, but the muscle memory to Sync was waay too strong.
Now I'm running Redact every day since Reddit keeps restoring old comments (at least some subs do).
I'll build my new little corner here, and I'll stick to it.
I personally just sorted my comments by top scoring and manually changed some of my top comments to random gibberish! That doesn't get restored!
If you're a hone cook come on over to [email protected]
The advertising and crypto spam bots are ready. Is spez?
Translation: “shut up, be a good little bootlicker, and we might let you keep working for us for free.”
Fuuuuuuuck those people.
Yep. I got one of these messages last weekend. So what did I do? I created a new replacement community here and pinned a post to the re-openned subreddit encouraging people to migrate.
But I created it over a decade ago, grew it myself from nothing. I'm not giving up mod status
Good luck moving the community over to Lemmy! I may subscribe myself; seems up my alley
In plain English:
"You are no longer allowed to provide us free labour."
Wake up mods!! You are working for Spez for free.
Well reddit can unmoderate deez nuts
Got eem
Change rules to EULA levels of obnoxious detail
Perma-ban every infraction, no matter how minor.
Mods can still make their subs go dark... one user at a time, lol.
I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit removes the ability for subreddits to go private.
So when they said they respect users right to protest what they actually meant was that they dont. got it.
There was some discussion in /r/modcoord on how mods could actually sue Reddit for free labour. I'm not sure how viable it is, but at least it seems to me like there's some ground to stand on.
https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/ModCoord/comments/14jue57/is_reddits_moderation_structure_illegal_an/
There is also this part "Under FLSA regulations, an individual cannot volunteer services to a private, for-profit company."
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing that!
Seems like Spaz may have crossed the line but it’ll take someone with deep pockets to take on Condé Nast publishing to find out.
As long as you protest in a way that is ineffective, zero impact to Reddit, and makes good ol' Spez feel special, you can protest all you want I guess?
At least we now know that Reddit cares 0% for their users. Glad I migrated over.
There's no way this is gonna end badly! /s
So are they going to hire people to mod all those subs?
Didn't they make this threat already once? Is this like that parenting thing where you keep shifting the deadline but acting like there'll be big consequences?
They also likely cannot do it. While they were sending pms to mods they completely failed at targetting private and restricted subreddits that aren't part of the protest, including ones that have been privated or restricted way before this month. And people saying there will always be people to replace the mods forgot how not-smooth that is going to go. Besides, the more Reddit antagonise its user base the more unstable it looks. It seems that despite the traffic returning to normal, many ads still haven't returned.
So is kbin kinda the same as Lemmy, then?
kbin is to lemmy what gmail is to hotmail
different software, but they talk to each other. they have slightly different features and UI, but they accomplish a pretty similar goal
yes, they post to each other's sites
Nice, still trying to wrap my head around the separate instances. If they were truly federated, wouldn't they all tie into each other or am I missing something?
Yup. I’m from kbin.
So am I...
...and I am also on lemmy.world! Wheee!
Meee tooo
Wooooo
They do.
https://lemmy.world/post/828058?scrollToComments=true
This is the lemmy world link. you can see kbin users comments there.
They don't tie into each other in the sense that they share login credentials or anything like that. But they do send messages - posts, comments, favourites, etc. - to each other, if those messages are requested, creating a network of synchronizing content mirrors.
The thread you are commenting on is on a lemmy instance, lemmy.world, submitted by a user registered on that instance.
You and I are both users registered on kbin.social.
We can all see each other's submissions, submit content on communities, comment on them, etc.
If you are registered on a kbin instance, you'll be using the kbin Web UI to view the same content. That's what differs.
I think the best analogy is email. Email is built around standards, and it doesn't matter if you use outlook or gmail. That's similar to the fediverse (the standard) and knime/lemmy (the email providers in the analogy).
Also remember that with the cross-instance propagation within the federated servers you can never really delete your post(s). (At least that’s how it was explained to me…)
When you delete a post, your home instance sends a federated deletion command. If every server is running lemmy/kbin as-is, then your post will be completely gone. But anyone could modify their instance to not delete posts.
I think if you want GDPR style deletion, you would have to contact each instance admin individually.
Thanks for explaining that in more detail!
I guess my subreddit is too tiny and little-used for them to take notice of.
People follow content and discussion, not user count. A site with a thousand active users could easily topple a site with a million doom scrolling 'users' .
It’ll take awhile to settle down, the post under yours, in this thread, explains why: https://lemmy.world/comment/642636
Yeah, it's better to focus on growing the federated communities so by the time Reddit fucks up again (they will) the fediverse will be the clear path of migration for another wave of people that want to get out of Reddit.