Vaccine data shows rates for latest COVID-19 booster is 'abysmal', only 7 percent of U.S. adults with shot
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/vaccine-data-shows-rates-for-latest-covid-19-booster-is-abysmal-only-7-percent-of-u-s-adults-with-shotOpen linkView original on lemmy.world257
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I thought it was a rollout issue… they announced it would be available almost immediately, and then it wasn’t. I’m still on a waiting list for mine at my local independent pharmacy.
Got my shot at the end of September, good stuff.
I've had every Covid vaccine offered. They aren't perfect, but I'm trying to balance risk/benefit. I'm a 70 year old, autoimmune person with lungs that formed scar tissue from my first go-round with Covid, before vaccines were available.
My lung function was great before Covid, it was normal for my age. But post Covid,.my lung function test shows that my lungs function at the level of a 5 year old...and I'm taller and bigger than a 5 year old, so that's a problem.
Scar tissue doesn't "participate" in oxygen/CO2 exchange. So I need to preserve every little alveoli I have. I'd rather die in my sleep with a smile on my face than for gasping for air, so I'll do whatever is offered to preserve the lung function I've kept.
I get mine for people like you and my dad who is in a similar situation.
Dude, THANK YOU. Really and truly, I thank you. You are doing more than my own family does.
It's the very least I can do my friend.
Man, this is the thing. I just stumbled upon the news via a passing remark from one of my medical friends, but other than that I have heard SQUAT from literally any other source. It just feels like they're not keeping up with the awareness campaign or maybe its not on anyone else's radar. I finally got vaxxed last week, but it really feels like no one else but me actually cares.
Vaccine fatigue is a real thing after all. Right now I'm honestly prioritizing getting my HPV vaccine, I know I could probably get the latest COVID vaccine whenever, but I'll likely get it early next year.
I also work from home so that probably helps.
TBH I didn't know everyone was eligible for the latest booster. My in-laws got it early but they're both at-risk.
I should go do that.
I think everyone needs to remember that we have essentially turned this virus into the new flu. We'll probably settle to pushes for yearly vaccines to reduce symptoms and the chance of passing it on, like the flu. And if you're not immunocompromised or elderly, then think of those around you who might be. They are the ones you're affecting as well as yourself if you get this vaccine.
Here's an article on vaccine immunity timelength and how it compares to the flu: Time.
I mean, two hundred Americans are still dying of this every day.
Yes except the general population in the US does not care. We’ve proven that a significant portion of the population would rather do nothing than save the lives of thousands of people per day.
Americans are just ahead of the curve on solving the overpopulation crisis through a terrible solution.
Seasonality it is like the flu but it is still a lot deadlier.
I keep hearing people say "I got 2, I'm not getting any more". Get fucking use to it, its never going away.
It's not even available for me yet, how am I supposed to help this stupid statistic?
There are no restrictions on getting this booster. It is recommended even if you have had an older booster recently. In my area, Walgreens and CVS are the only pharmacies who have it. I was able to make an appointment online and get the shot within a day or two.
How is it not available for you? There's no age limits this time. There's been problems with supply; I had 3 appointments cancelled because they were out of vaccine before I finally got my shot.
I found it was useful to expand my search; I didn't even know the pharmacy existed where I eventually got my shot, it was a small compounding pharmacy. And I called ahead to check before I came in, having been turned away at CVS despite an appointment. Good hunting!
In my experience, going to the more conservative, blue collar neighborhoods was the most reliable on availability. But that's when there was a huge demand on the first and second round of shots, and pharmacies were taking as many vials as they could
Yes. This time I think those areas just aren't ordering very much.
Insurance is also being a dick about it. Many I know are encountering lots of obstacles getting covered. My insurance will only pay for it if administered by a doctor or nurse, but they refer me to the pharmacy for the shot.
It wasn't available until fairly recently where I live. I plan on getting it when I have a doctor's appointment in a couple of weeks.
I wonder if we need to roll this into the annual flu shot.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/04/health/moderna-flu-covid-vaccine-trial-results/index.html they seem to be working on a yearly combo shot
I did flu, COVID, and Tdap this year at the same time since I can't remember the last time I got a tetanus booster. Would make sense to have a combo shot. I'm not paranoid about vaccines, so if I'm getting one, I may as well get the other.
That triple shot combo was a motherfucker though for the next two days after.
I did the new covid booster and the flu vaxx at the same time and just had a slight fever for a day. Way better than the first and second covid shots (I have had 5 so far). I think it gets easier as time goes on. I did have 4 shots at the same time (tdap, hep b, measles, and rubella) early this year for immigration purposes and was surprised I wasn't hit so bad; but I did need to rest and not do much for 2 days.
At least near me that's how they're offering it, just as two shots.
Basically a sign that says "it's flu shot season, stop in for your flu shot and COVID booster".
Probably not a bad idea. I don't know if the storage requirements for them are the same though.
I got mine a week after the rollout happened. For previous vaccines I actually had more of a bad headache for those, less any sort of actual symptoms. With this one, I didn't have a headache as much, but I had more symptoms where I felt sick, but knew that I wasn't actually sick. It was like sickness symptoms without all the disgusting phlegm and snot and stuff. It was weird, and only lasted maybe two days or so.
I had no idea there was a new one. How did people even hear about it?
I got a text message from my local CVS. Had a link to make an appointment and everything.
Crazy, I waited “until everyone got it”, so I wouldn’t have to wait. This past weekend I scheduled an appointment at my grocery store pharmacy for flu and COViD shots. There was no line so they took my kid and I immediately, and we were out the door ten minutes before appointments
Actually, this one was the worst for me, although I have no way of knowing which shot was. The problem is I’ve been getting enough sleep lately, so there was just enough of an annoying ache in my arm to keep me up without my normal exhaustion. Also had minor congestion, but I was developing allergy symptoms before the vaccinations, so who knows
Got mine Friday.
I intentionally waited until this weekend, so it'll be most effective through until the end of the winter heating season in February.
How are other countries doing?
Was at my Dr's office today (Manitoba, Canada) and she doesn't even have the new COVID vax yet, but my local drugstore does.
We're still feeling the effects of our former right-wingnut leadership that got the boot in our Oct election. :/
I tried to get a shot today after lunch. About a hundred people in the line, and only walk-ins are available. I guess I'll wait for couple of months.
I haven't got mine yet nor have I got in the flu shot but I plan to. I've got all the boosters up to this point. I was going to get a flu shot last year but ended up not doing it because I made an appointment and then when I got to the pharmacy they had a line of over 35 people which is insane so I just ended up skipping it.
i reupped but I know many have not - one guy I know has had it twice and been hospitalized both times.. he never learns.
I think that part of the issue is that the virus is evolving so rapidly that it's not a "vaccine" in the traditional sense, like the polio vaccine where you get it and you're protected forever (or close enough). that's how many people see vaccines - you take it and you're "cured", but not with rapidly evolving viral loads.
it's frustrating but not a lot I can do about it.
The covid vaccines I have gotten each made me sick for two days. That's not a lot in the big picture but it is enough to make me unenthusiastic about getting another booster that may well be ineffective. For now I'm sticking with my trusty N95.
If you had Moderna before, consider Pfizer because in my experience it gave me much less discomfort afterwards. I went back to Moderna because I felt more strongly protected, but Pfizer is good enough and better than nothing. Of course your mask will help a lot too.
Oh, is that a known issue with Moderna? I wife and I had only gotten Pfizer before and just got Moderna on Saturday, and we were knocked completely out Sunday and barely functional today. Seemed noticeably harsher.
I'm only speaking anecdotally, I had a reaction of fatigue and fever this time. But for sure in previous versions, Moderna was something like 3x the dose of Pfizer.
I’ve had all the shots/boosters, switched from Moderna to Pfizer about halfway through. All Moderna shots hit me like a truck, and I’ve had zero symptoms other than a sore arm from any of my Pfizer shots.
You can choose vaccine?
When I last took mine, they just gave me a vaccine, I can't remember which but it's not like I had a choice anyways.
In the California search I have used, https://myturn.ca.gov/, the choice of Pfizer /Moderna/Novovax is a question along with whether you have insurance and your zip code etc. Different answers have led to different pharmacies, according to what they had ordered, I guess, and sometimes different days at the same big CVS. I've nothing to say against any of them. But I think certain groups of people are better off with one or the other depending on their health conditions. Even if there's no choice you can always ask so you know what you got. It should also be in your vaccine record if you want to go back and check.
i mean, yeah, i have to FORCE myself to get every one, the side effects are so awful. but i figure two days of that has got to be better than actually getting covid.
Right?
I've spent a week of PTO already just from getting vaccinated. I'm not about up to use up another 2 days of my pathetic 8 days of PTO a year on a 'maybe'
Got my daughter to get her vaccine. She spent a week with fever, and feeling like shit too dude. Why can't they get a better vaccine? I didn't feel like this for anything else but I'm not alone.
Wasn't the vaccine this Fall for a strain that hasn't been prevalent for the past few months? That's the only reason I didn't bother with the latest vaccine. I got the other three.
The current booster was based on the XBB.1.5 Omicron sub-variant. Therefore it's expected to also be effective against the current dominate strains that are directly related, like BA.2.86 and EG.5. So it's worth getting, it'll be some protection against the most common strains right now.
Of course once we roll through the winter into the spring and there are several more mutations and a new dominant strain, it'll be time to start the process over again.
Thanks for the information. I pro-vaccine, but I can't say I'm super excited about the possibility of taking a vaccine every season as mutations keep popping up. What is the efficacy of the vaccine if only 7% of people are taking it?
With a low take rate among the population, it does little for stopping the spread, sadly... at that point, it's really just to boost your own immunity and shorten/lessen the duration and effects if you do catch it.
I just got mine, and I need to get my kids scheduled. My wife and I both work at home, my kids being in school is the most likely infection source these days.
I would rather we all have it if only for the lessened impact, I won't even pretend it's going to prevent infection given how many people out there won't get it.
I've been much more pro-annual flu shots since a baby died at our daycare from the flu. I was never against it, I just didn't think it was a big deal (because I was young and healthy). But now, if my getting a shot every year can help prevent a family from losing a child, I'm all in. It's the least I can do.
Think of it like your flu shot you already get every year
OP asks an honest question, gets downvoted. This place is pretty much reddit 2.0.
I mean, yeah? The place is entirely from people from Reddit, such as myself.
I came from Reddit too. I wouldn’t feel at home if I wasn’t downvoted for asking a simple question.
It was designed to hit the one previous to the one most viral at the moment, but it does protect against the new one as well.
I'm getting mine on Friday. Still have to look into it for my kids. Safeway does not offer it for under 12. I remember it being difficult to get the first time around.
Not sure what state you’re in but CVS Minute Clinic has Covid booster shots for ages 5 to 11 (NOT the regular CVS since they vaccinate/treat children).
I paid $400ish for it (my wife and I) because I'm on Kaiser and they pretended they had it, but they didn't really, and I wanted it because I wanted to be confident I wouldn't get sick getting a haircut.
So, maybe the shitty health systems in the US have something to do with this.
Also, I'm kinda glad most people haven't gotten it yet. I'd rather have extra immunity juice so I can act a little more normal comfortably before the next variant shows up.
I'm 4 deep. Not getting anymore unless my employer mandates it. They didn't mandate the 4th, so, doubt they'll be more required.
Care to explain with sources how they are worse than doing nothing, or are you just expounding directly out of your asshole at us?
We call these ‘self-solving problems’.
Funny that's how I think of the anti vaxx community.
So, ah, given that a significant portion of the population did get vaccinated, what exactly do you base your assumption that it will cause harm on?
If you think the vaccine will kill you, shouldn't there be a lot of dead people, like way more than covid itself caused?
If you think it causes severe sickness, how come there aren't tons of stories about everyone knowing or being one of these sick people? Even if the media is hiding it, you must know people who did get the shots, or know people who know someone. Why is hospital usage down from the covid peaks if the vaccine is worse than covid?
If it's not either of those, what specifically do you think the vaccine will do and where do you see it happening? And if it's something you expect to see in the future, why do you believe that?
As do the rest of us who get vaxed.
“Oh my god, who the hell cares?”
I know right?! My body does has a natural immune system sweety, I don't need to listen to scientists. No one even gets polio anymore, who needs vaccines?? I'll just sawy limb off when I get gangreen from a broken limb. What's that? The same science that protects me from.infection is the science that creates vaccines? Ruh-roh, raggy!
This would be a funny bit of sarcasm if there weren't whole hordes of people actually making this "argument" for real.
And even worse, polio has started making a comeback due to undervaccination. It was never actually eradicated.
My grandma was a nurse in the iron lung ward, and when I was 16 I had a friend who lived through polio ... his legs and right arm were shriveled but he could still use crutches for short distances.
The fuck anyone should ever want to live through those times again.
Remember that when you’re having respiratory issues in the hospital.
I’ve been vaccinated like the rest of the normal folks and you want me to keep caring? It’s… checks notes the current year for Christ sake.
That's some weird ass logic.
Specifically it's called Survivorship Bias.