Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis.
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I am going to use this thread to make a continuation of what I've posted in the first megathread where I shared a plethora of related links that share insight on the nature of this conflict.
Reports
#Nakba
Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs
Classified Docs Reveal Massacres of Palestinians in '48 – and What Israeli Leaders Knew
Editorial | There Are Thousands of Classified Pages Israel Has Yet to Reveal, for the Sake of Healing
'I Saw Fit to Remove Her From the World'
Zionist Militia’s Efforts to Recruit Nazis in Fight Against the British Are Revealed
#Recent Events
Using an Attack Dog, Israeli Women Soldiers Forced Palestinian Women to Undress
Cigarette Burns, Beatings, Attempted Sexual Assault: Settlers and Soldiers Abused Palestinians
Israeli Settler Documented Shooting Palestinian at Point-blank in the West Bank
Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Hundreds Involved in Attacking Arabs and Leftists, but Israel Police Arrest Only Four
Far-right Israeli Knesset Member Zvi Sukkot to Head Subcommittee on the West Bank
Perspectives
#Videos
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
^ Here's an interview regarding recent events.
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
^At 1:43:50, Finklestein asserts that Israel would bomb a residential area, wait for people to come out and call an ambulance, and then bomb the ambulance.
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
^At 00:24:15, Ali asserts that Israel is willing to shoot their own civilians as evidenced by the Hannibal Directive, verifiable events, and testimonies such as Yasmin Porat's where the IDF was shooting indiscriminately and even fired tank shells into Israeli homes.
#Articles
How colonizers weaponize rape: reflections from the Palestinian case
Opinion | Dying in Southern Gaza: 'I Want to Go Home. At Least I’ll Die After Drinking Fresh Water'
Opinion | Amid the Mourning, Israel's Settlement Enterprise Celebrates a Great Victory
Testimonials
Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist" - Former IDF soldier talks about how he realized that his actions were perpetuating apartheid, and that Palestinians were right to resist through any means.
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant ^[There is a whole-ass documentary for those interested.
Breaking the Silence - Israeli NGO where IDF veterans testify their experiences. Some examples:
If you find any other notable background information, feel free to share.
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Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
Here's an interview
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
Yasmin Porat's
Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist"
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant
whole-ass documentary
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I recommend this book written by Ilan Pappe a jewish historian, who now lives and works in UK.
Know their names.
Here will be a compiled list of 972 magazine articles related to this conflict, continually updated as I delve into this harrowing treasure trove of information:
July 31, 2015: Palestinian baby burned to death in West Bank arson attack
July 31, 2016: A year since the Duma murders: Navigating justice and pain
October 12, 2020: For Israel, tens of thousands of Palestinian newborns don’t exist
June 8, 2021: Settlers shot Palestinian and mutilated his body as he lay dying
July 15, 2021: Joint militias: How settlers and soldiers teamed up to kill four Palestinians
April 5, 2022: Israel charges Palestinian journalists with incitement — for doing their jobs
April 10, 2022: Israel’s false promise of security
May 25, 2022: Israel says this book justifies Masafer Yatta expulsions. Its author begs to differ
July 8, 2022: This Israeli forbids Palestinians from building. He lives in an illegal outpost
July 11, 2022: Classified document reveals IDF ‘firing zones’ built to give land to settlers
August 11, 2022: ‘We killed a little boy, but it was within the rules’
August 30, 2022: Israel destroyed Palestinian village for luxury settlement that was never built
September 15, 2022: How Israeli media reported a ‘lynching’ that never happened
September 26, 2022: ‘We built the Palestinian Authority with blood. We won’t give up on it’
November 8, 2022: “He asked me how many children I have. Then he said: ‘Now you have one less.'”
October 5, 2022: In Jenin and Nablus, resistance and despair go hand in hand
January 24, 2023: A coming out party for Israel’s religious Jewish left
February 16, 2023: The theft of Harun Abu Aram’s body, home, and life
February 27, 2023: The pogrom is the point
March 2, 2023: ‘They were burning our house with kids inside. The army didn’t let us through’
March 5, 2023: ‘I couldn’t see if my brother’s murderer was a soldier or settler’
March 13, 2023: ‘Who hits a 64-year-old woman with a bat?’
March 22, 2023: Armed settlers break into Palestinian family home under cover of darkness
May 3, 2023: Revealed: The IDF unit turning ‘hilltop youth’ settlers into soldiers
November 13, 2023: How a hasbara group’s sham investigation put Gaza journalists in the firing line
November 23, 2023: What Israelis won’t be asking about the Palestinians released for hostages
November 30, 2023: A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
December 8, 2023: ‘It would’ve been better if they shot us’: Palestinians recount prison abuse
December 11, 2023: ‘Diseases are spreading rapidly’: In Jabalia camp, thousands shelter in one school
December 19, 2023: Gaza’s rescue workers are haunted by those they couldn’t save
December 19, 2023: A Palestinian student briefly deleted her social media. Israel revoked her permit
December 28, 2023: Palestinian Christians in Gaza fear being ‘swept under the rubble or into the desert’
Why Is the Birth Rate in Israel's Ethiopian Community Declining?
The Dissappeared Children of Israel
October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles
July 15 2021
JOINT MILITIAS - On a Single Day in May, Israeli Settlers and Soldiers Cooperated in Attacks That Left Four Palestinians Dead
Archived version
More articles from the author of this piece: Yuval Abraham
I saw this YouTube comment where people were arguing whether the Palestinians or Jewish people were there first. Does anyone know how accurate this comment is?
Seems like baseless rhetoric to justify the ongoing colonization and atrocities of the past century.
First, Arabs and Hebrews both have ancestry dating to the Levant back in the bronze age. Many of the Jews back then would have descendents that would later convert to Christianity and Islam.
Second, up until the colonial era, when the Jews were being persecuted by European nations, they sought refuge under Arab and Muslim rule. One notable example would be the Muslim Sultan, Salah ad-Din, allowing Jews to resettle in Jerusalem after the European Crusaders brutally kicked them out. Another example would be the treatment of Jews under the Ottoman Empire.
Third, even if all of this was not true, that does not justify the ongoing oppression, atrocities, ethnic cleansing, genocide of the indigenous people for the past 75 years, nor does it change who is and isn't a colonizer and the colonized. This video gives a good explanation on why.
Thanks! You seemed very informed about the conflict so yours felt like a good comment to ask that question under, which had been on my mind since I saw it under an old Abby Martin video of her interviews with Israelis. That video looks like it will probably take some time to watch but it gives me a place to start.
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Thank you for this. Very helpful.
What's the educated opinion of how could this been handled by Israel? Honest question. (Ignoring the fact that Israel failed with intel)
To me it seems like Gaza had no intention to get rid of Hamas though at the same time bombing is unnecessary as the culprits can't really leave other than the secret tunnels to Egypt which can't really be bombed.
So the only real alternative is a full Blockade and ultimatum or something? Clearly Gaza doesn't stand a chance against IDF too so Israel had all of the cards to conjure any response they wanted.
I've tried to Google similar modern scenarios and couldn't find anything.
There hasn't been elections for 16 or 17 iirc so how can Palestinians "get rid of" Hamas?
Hamas was supported & funded by Netanyahus likud party specifically because it drove a wedge between those in Gaza and in the West Bank. Classic divide and conquer technique.
As for what Israel can do? They can get rid of the genocidal crook that's running their government and his two murderous far right henchmen and grasp that he had concocted this situation for several reasons:
To divert attention away from his corruption and fraud indictments
To quell the protests that have been going on for months against him because of the corruption and legislation he has passed to curtail the supreme courts ability to hold the executive to account.
To level Gaza, ethnically cleanse it & genocide the Palestinian people so he can get to the natural gas and oil reserves there.
Yes, there's a lot Israel can do and it needs to be quick about it.
It sounds like you just put everything you don't like about Israel in that answer, but without actually giving an answer how this actually could be handled. "Just don't to bad stuff, do good stuff" How would that have been an appropriate response to the terrorist attack?
You're talking as though the attacks happened in a vacuum, without intelligence from several sources pre-warning of it and without a certain level of collusion from the Israeli executive to allow it to happen and bring capitalised by then for it's maximum effect.
When you can genuinely approach the subject not from such a disingenuous perspective then my response may well be perceived by you as a bit more than "If you don't want to be taken for a cunt then don't act like one "
For me it sounds like you are you saying, they deserve the terrorist attack and are not allowed to react to it.
That would be the exact reactionary response I would expect from someone with no grasp of the history, its complexity or even a miniscule amount of knowledge of the atrocities that have been carried out against civilians by both sides
Then you're just ignoring geopolitics and talking about who said what.
We can't change the past. What should Israel do now?
So you didn't bother to read my comment then?
If you're too lazy to do that, why the fuck should I put any effort beyond this in replying?
I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result.
Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague
Ideally Israel wouldn't have been oppressing Palestinians in the first place so that Hamas would never have come to power. They could have engaged in dialogue and diplomacy with Hamas and the Palestinians to figure out something that would work for everyone. They could have negotiated a prisoner swap or something for the hostages.
But Israel, specifically Likud and the right-wing parties, have no interest in this. They want all of Palestine gone, and to control it all themselves.
Not to mention that Hamas had accepted the 1967 borders back in 2017 and it was Netanyahu who rejected it. Hamas is a pet project by Netanyahu to divide Palestinians in Gaza from the West Bank. He’s helped nurture and support them as a means to do more land grabs and expand Israel’s territorial grip. So the starting point has to be a full withdrawal of the occupation, the ability for Palestinians to have a democratic government that is free from Israeli influence, and the restoration of the 1967 borders. The withdrawal of all Israeli settlers from within Palestinian borders.
Because Israel has been literally stealing land while demanding Palestinians give up more.
Edit: added context.
They literally started a land grab in 2017.
https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2017/50-years-illegal-settlements/index.html
They can also currently stop protecting murderers in the west bank. So we don't have to ask how did a radical movement take power there a couple of years from now.
Dealing with this situation logically doesn't work, because it's not logic that got it started.
Both sides have majority support for essentially exterminating the other side.
Add to the fact that both sides are receiving massive external support in order for those external nations to wage a proxy war against each other, and it's just a shit show all around.
You’re right, logic didn’t start the current conflict. The British did when they disarmed Palestinians and armed and trained Zionist paramilitaries. This enabled the Zionists to forcibly evict hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes in a brutal ethnic cleansing campaign. The pace at which Palestinians are being displaced has slowed but it has never stopped. While Palestinian resistance movements have received outside support it pales in comparison to the military support Israel receives from the US and other western countries. This conflict is unfortunately very one sided.
If you think Arabs and Jews fighting started with the British, you'd be a thousand years late to the party.
Changing the balance of the power did not start the conflict.
Okay so you’re just going to ignore the hundreds of years of relative peace in the region under Ottoman rule immediately preceding WWI?
So peaceful.... Multiple massacres and entire towns getting sacked for being Jewish sure doesn't sound like peaceful to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Antisemitism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Yishuv
The Ottomans lost in WWI, and the empire got split up. It's not surprising that non-Muslim groups in the area got control of some of the parts.
“Got control” is doing a lot of work in that sentence. You can’t just paper over British involvement and the hundreds of Palestinian villages that were destroyed in a mass ethnic cleansing campaign by Zionists. This was clearly a dramatic escalation in any religious or ethnic violence that occurred in the region as compared to years prior. You can’t just ignore that and expect anyone to think you’re discussing the issue in good faith.
Speaking of which, Palestine under Ottoman rule was more peaceful. The wiki articles you linked don’t even reference massacres happening in Palestine. So your point is moot.
Yes they do...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1660_destruction_of_Safed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1660_destruction_of_Tiberias
The British didn't start this shit. Not even close.
Who started it is moot though, neither side wants to peacefully end this so they're going to keep fighting.
You think that if the west stops supporting Israel that Hamas is just going to stop attacking? That's naïve as fuck. Hamas with Iran's support will just push into Israel and the table will just be tilted the other way instead.
Israel could stop being an apartheid state and stop illegally occupying Palestinian land and imprisoning millions of gazans and hamas would no longer be a political force. Because hamas is a violent reaction to colonial violence after nonviolent reactions failed for decades.
This isn't exactly an answer for how it could have been handled, but it's got a lot of great info on the complicated factors at play.
Causes of the war https://youtu.be/zMxHU34IgyY
Israel's reaction/overreaction https://youtu.be/B4H95DlII2s
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The plan is for there to eventually be no people left to become terrorists. It's not the stupidest plan, it has worked throughout history.
They are on the path of doing this, the more they kill, the more will join the resistance. New acts of resistance (terrorism) will be committed. Then they have an excuse to kill even more. Rinse and repeat, until genocide complete.
I find it sad that everyone expects something from Israel. Why does Israel have to handle this and not anyone else? Why hamas can't handle this? For example they could surrender to prevent any further suffering of their people.
Get a peace-keeping force made up of Iranians. If missiles are still being shot from Gaza after that, Israel can go to war with Iran and cut out the middle-man.
Killing is bad
And so are megathreads.
Why?
I just prefer a more organic posting environment. Megathreads seem like a mod power-move to corral everyone into their threads and delete user posts.
Because when they're arguing in mega threads, IDF propagandists can't 404 the post when you checkmate their bullshit. They can't be as unhinged as they'd like to be.
Megathreads are usually the justification for deleting other threads. So your theory is close, but just the opposite.
I like when people are as unhinged as they'd like to be. That's why I don't support theocracies, either.
Published by the IDF about six hours ago on YouTube: Inside a Hamas Terrorist Tunnel Under Rantisi Hospital in Gaza
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Know their names, The thousands of Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza.
Dozens killed in Israeli strike on Indonesian hospital in northern Gaza.
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Dozens of US commandos in 'Israel' aiding occupation forces.
I'll just say it.
The state of Israel is basically the modern Nazi Germany.
I want Israel to exist, but not by genociding an entire ethnic group from the land. This is fucked up, and fuck anyone defending these actions.
This is a list of the names of more than 6,000 Palestinians that Israel has killed in Gaza.
October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles
Israeli fire destroys water reservoir in northern Gaza amid dire shortage of clean drinking water.
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Map of Palestine from National Geographic magazine 1947.
Anxious, optimistic: Families of female Palestinian prisoners await release
‘Can regain our soul’: Relief and fear in Gaza ahead of Israel truce
Israel releases Palestinian women and children prisoners under Hamas deal
Photos: Palestinians released from prison reunite with loved ones
Family celebrates return of freed Palestinian prisoner Marah Bakeer
39 Palestinian women and children were sent home
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Gaza’s Christian community faces ‘threat of extinction’ amid Israel war.
Israel’s assault on Gaza could spell the end of the Christian community’s long history in the enclave.
‘Devastating’: the final hours at Gaza’s besieged Indonesian Hospital
Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi among those freed as part of truce agreement between Hamas & Israel
Over 60 hostages are missing due to Israeli airstrikes: Hamas armed wing.
Palestinians flee massacre as Israel bombs al-Maghazi refugee camp.
Israeli forces kill two Palestinian children in occupied West Bank raid
Video: Eight-year-old Adam al-Ghoul and 15-year-old Basel Abu al-Wafa shot dead by israeli soldiers
‘Military camp’: Palestinian town of Huwara under 55-day Israeli closure
October 6: Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers attack West Bank town of Huwara
Israeli tank gunner reveals orders to fire indiscriminately into kibbutz — report
Hamas Official Says Israel Has Not Reached Any of Its Objectives in Gaza
Israel arrests almost as many Palestinians as it has released during truce
Pro-Israel demonstrator chants Nazi-era slur at protest
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West Bank:
Palestinian killed after Israel prevents medics from helping him
Why you may not see Palestinians celebrating family members' return
Israeli officials warns Palestinians about celebrating the release of prisoners
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Article:
Wounded patients left at al-Shifa Hospital face dire conditions
Video:
Dire conditions at al-Shifa Hospital revealed during Gaza pause
Israeli settlers steal Palestinian farmers’ land in occupied West Bank
Israeli forces carry out deadly raids in the West Bank amid Gaza truce
Dozens from same family killed in Gaza as Israel continues bombardment.
Video from 2021 but still relevant.
Debunking Israel’s ‘Human Shield’ Defense in Gaza Massacre.
October 6: Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers attack West Bank town of Huwara
November 29: ‘Military camp’: Palestinian town of Huwara under 55-day Israeli closure
December 1, 2023: ‘My son was killed on October 6. There was no Hamas’
December 5: ‘Massacres await’: Palestinians in Nablus warn of deadly settler attacks
December 6, 2023: West Bank family sees no hope of justice in settler killings
December 9, 2023: Two teenagers killed, 15 detained in Israeli raids in occupied West Bank
December 14, 2023: Casualties mount in occupied West Bank as Israeli forces extend raids
December 20, 2023: ‘No safe place’: Jenin’s Freedom Theatre raided, daubed with Star of David
December 24, 2023: Muted Christmas as Palestinian Christians mourn for Gaza
December 25, 2023: Israel hits Bethlehem in Christmas raids on occupied West Bank
December 27, 2023: Six killed in Israeli strike on refugee camp in occupied West Bank
The Cruel Experiments of Israel’s Arms Industry
In Gaza, Ahmad lost his family then his legs to Israel’s bombing
August 22, 2023: Opinion | Diaspora Brothers, Don’t ‘Make Aliyah’
December 11, 2023:Opinion | The Gaza War Is Yet Another Self-made, Inescapable Israeli Imbroglio
December 17: Opinion | In Israel, 20,000 Gazans Are Responsible for Their Own Deaths. I've Never Been So Ashamed Send in e-mailSend in e-mail
December 29, 2023: Analysis | Israel Knows the Number of Calories Needed for Gazans' Survival. How Few Is a War Crime?
Dirty secret of Israel’s weapons exports: They’re tested on Palestinians
‘We’re alive’, then dead silence: A Gaza family trapped in Israel’s war
Live on TikTok: Cousin of Palestinian activist beaten by Israeli soldiers
This Interview is worthwile. For everyone who hasn't succumbed to the war on their mind and soul, as the interviewee Yuval Noah Harari phrased it:
[https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=9qaxYQqmzIg](Hamas and Gaza | A Liberal Israeli's View - Yuval Noah Harari | The Rest Is Politics)
Here is the view of the "other side" (PLO not Hamas therefore the " ")
[https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=AtsTsCFxrNI](The View from Gaza | Palestinian Ambassador to the UK - Husam Zomlot | The Rest Is Politics)
‘We want permanent ceasefire,’ Palestinians in Gaza say as truce extended
December 3, 2023: ‘Death corridor’: The al-Samounis recall terror of ‘safe passage’ in Gaza
December 6, 2023: Two Gaza brothers stripped, jeered at by Israeli army, one taken captive
December 8, 2023: Palestinians detained by Israel in Gaza blindfolded, stripped to underwear
December 13, 2023: Civilians sheltering inside a Gaza school killed execution-style | December 21, 2023: UN calls for probe as Israeli army accused of killing unarmed Palestinians | Demember 26, 2023: Classroom massacre: Survivors say Israel executed innocents in Gaza school
Jailed without charge: How Israel holds thousands of Palestinian prisoners
Hurt, scared but free now. Palestinian boy recalls abuse in Israeli prison
How a Palestinian teen’s release exposed Israeli mistreatment of prisoners
Why American politicians are 'lying' about Gaza.
Ahmed Wanted Israelis to Listen to Gazans. Then 23 of His Family Members Were Killed
December 1, 2023: Israeli air strikes pound Gaza as truce with Hamas ends
December 1, 2023: Israel strikes Gaza after truce expires
December 1, 2023: ‘Where to go?’ Palestinians say nowhere safe as Israel resumes Gaza bombing
December 1, 2023: Palestinians flee homes, dig in rubble as Israel resumes strikes on Gaza
December 1, 2023: Gaza aid trucks stranded as Israel-Hamas war resumes
December 1, 2023: ‘Bombing everywhere’: As Israel renews war, my eight-year-old has questions
December 2, 2023: ‘Hell on Earth’ in Gaza: Israel strikes hit Deir el-Balah
December 2, 2023: Photos: More deaths and destruction as Israel targets southern Gaza
December 3, 2023: Over 700 killed in last 24 hours as Israel intensifies strikes | December 3, 2023: From north to south, nowhere safe in Gaza as 700 killed in 24 hours
December 4, 2023: Khan Younis hospital stretched by influx of patients as Israel bombs Gaza
December 4, 2023: No end to suffering of Gaza children as Israeli attacks rage on
December 5, 2023: Searching for survivors after Israeli attack on central Gaza building
December 5, 2023: Israel intensifies strikes on Gaza’s second-largest city
December 6, 2023: Israeli raid kills 22 members of Al Jazeera correspondent’s family in Gaza
December 9, 2023: Photos: Israel bombs Gaza areas it declared safe zones for Palestinians
December 9, 2023: US skips congressional review for emergency sale of tank shells to Israel
December 10, 2023: Nearly 300 killed in Gaza in 24 hours as Hamas, Netanyahu trade threats
December 10, 2023: ‘A hand here, a head there’: Israeli warplanes kill dozens in central Gaza
December 24, 2023: Israeli strikes kill UN staff, more than 70 of his extended family in Gaza
December 25, 2023: ‘Massacre’ as Israel steps up Gaza bombardment for Christmas | December 25, 2023: Israel intensifies Gaza strikes, killing 250 Palestinians in 24 hours | December 25, 2023: Gaza’s Maghazi refugee camp in ruins after deadly Israeli attack
Freed Palestinian prisoners report physical abuse in Israeli jails
Indonesia denies Israeli claims over hospital in Gaza.
Indonesia rejects Israeli accusation that hospital stands above Hamas tunnels.
MER-C denies hospital used by Hamas to launch attacks.
Qatar slams Israeli allegations about existence of tunnels beneath Sheikh Hamad Hospital in Gaza.
‘My son was killed on October 6. There was no Hamas’
'They Assaulted All The Girls' - Jailed For Posting a Palestinian Flag
Israeli army shoots whoever tries to leave Al-Shifa Hospital: Doctor tells Anadolu.
Hamas must be eliminated for the good of Israel and Gaza. Burying head into sand was already tried and failed
I highly recommend Beau of the Fifth Column for more informal news about the conflict. He only ever reports when something can be verified, and has a team helping him do research.
Never heard of this guy before your post. He is a YouTuber who may have done time for human smuggling? Why would he be a better reporter than the actual news orgs on the ground?
Yeah no shit.. what…?
“I get my news from some guy in a basement”
He's a secondary source that independently verifies facts. He has connections with people like Chelsea Manning and many other sources of information and knowledge. He is a part of several mutual aid groups that also provide him with information. He served in the military for 20 years. He's not just "a guy in a basement", that's a studio set made to look like his shed. He specializes in deprogramming MAGA conservatives by making his videos appear like a MAGA "news" source (as a consequence, finding a specific video from him is difficult)
He made a mistake a long time ago, served his time, and outside of his channel, is also heavily involved in disaster relief work, political advocacy for leftist causes, etc.
But, clearly you're someone who believes our justice system is too lax. Could probably use some scarlet letters, or even better, we can brand their foreheads with "FELON". That sound good to you?
I like him, but it’s hard to trust a guy that uses 5 columns when you only need 4.
I heard that 3 columns won't wobble
I have your tagged account as "moron or troll". So if it's the first option, then here, I'll help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
I could be both.
It took me a looooong time to warm up to him and even understand his position on the world. I just didn't understand what his angle was... But then it sort of just happened.
He's a very intelligent dude with excellent views.
OP makes a satirical title but no satirical news sources allowed. is this hexbear?
What?
Why was there a concert happening so close to the Gaza border, what organizer thought that was a good idea
Are you victim blaming? I believe there was a cease fire agreement at the time. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
It's a genuine question. If I were to host such a festival... i would make sure to NOT keep it along the border with a state whose current rulers are HAMAS.
Nah fam, I'm talking practically speaking. If the state of Montana started threatening war with Alberta, do you think I'd plan a music festival in friggin Lethbridge?! Absolutely not, what a wild ass idea.
I mean shit, that concert was 5 km from Gaza, sitting between two Israeli military bases. wtf bro.
Not the same. Threat of war between Israel and Hamas has been a constant state of affairs for decades.
Yeah but seriously though and also it's not that long ago that the land the concert was on was part of Gaza / Palestine. Seriously the compression of the space over the last couple decades has been shocking. It's like hosting a concert in no man's land between North and South Korea.
I get it. It's cheap farmland now to people that are willing to get killed for cheap land to farm and sell to the cities and someone thought perfect cheap and out of the way to do designer drugs... I hate it. But it doesn't mean they should have died but it does make what happened stupid and tragic.
Are you fucking stupid?