In Dutch, the Common Drone Fly is also called "Blinde Bij", which means "Blind Bee". This is because this animal is neither blind nor a bee and the Dutch are very good at naming things
Funny how Canadians don't want to be called "American", Mexicans don't want to be called "American", but everyone from outside the area INSISTS that it's an appropriate name for them. Even the commenter above called you a "US person", the only other time I've seen that was in legislation about immigration, never as a demonym.
I like the philosophical implications of the word king in the context of king snakes. For snakes, it just means that their diet consists primarily of other snakes. This implies that to be a king is to be a predator who preys on his own subjects.
In my town there's a shop that sells rocks and crystals etc. They also sell sand dollars for $1. That's right, there's a 1:1 conversion rate between sand dollars and USD.
Interesting. In south FL you can (or could, been a while) hit certain places and find the keyhole variant by the hundreds. Fascinating creature, all those tube feet to move. It's illegal to take them but that didn't stop shops from selling the ones that "washed up" which doesn't really happen.
But for some reason people actually buy them. It's a skeleton of a creature someone scooped up and let bake in the sun for a month. Kinda creepy!
It's quite possible, just not my experience. I've seen a lot of really neat shells and stuff wash up but not sand dollars. So i don't want to suggest people actually do that. But it's certainly easy enough. Probably why it's illegal.
I do suggest, if you get the chance, to check them out live. As i kid i had a few skeletons but seeing them in action was way cooler. It's not super exciting or anything, just kinda neat. Same as another one on that list - the horseshoe crab. I helped one get out of a shallow and it seemed appreciative.. at least as much as an ancient creature can be.
Stingrays are kinda dicks though so keep that in mind.
I once attended a traditional Chinese wedding and it's customary to serve sea cucumber soup as one of the dishes. Tales say it strengthens your fertility. Let me tell you, that shit is inedible. Soup is a euphemism, it's closer to a brine that has some penis-shaped object with gristle-like texture floating around.
It was probably the most expensive dish of the evening, but it was the only one I didn't finish.
didn't think i would be googling "peacock genitalia" today. anyway, you are right. i was confused because I know that ducks have penises, but as I just found out, ducks are actually an exception in the bird world. most birds just kind of rub their holes together. this is sometimes called "cloacal kiss", which is really funny.
But pretty fucking amazing with that kicking bowls onto her head while riding a unicycle thing - while listening to the world's most annoying song ever.
The cloaca holds both the penis and the butthole on a male, and the vagina on a female. They still have penetrative sex. They're not fish. It just doesn't poke outside the body.
Can you back that up? I've spent the last 10 minutes searching up cloaca diagrams and pictures and articles and I can't find any decent information about it. Only saying that they do a cloaca kiss and transfer sperm, but then I can't find a cloaca diagram that labels any part as a penis.
I couldn't find anything specific to peacocks either, but plenty of various other birds, including chickens which have the smallest little nub of a penis to ducks and their long, twisty corkscrew cock.
Yeah, I'm not sure you could call whatever a chicken does "penetrative", and I feel like the term "penis" has a specific meaning that wouldn't include cloaca.
cock (n.1)
"male of the domestic fowl," from Old English cocc "male bird," Old French coc (12c., Modern French coq), Old Norse kokkr, all of echoic origin. Compare Albanian kokosh "cock," Greek kikkos, Sanskrit kukkuta, Malay kukuk.
cock (n.3)
"penis," 1610s, but certainly older and suggested in word-play from at least 15c.; also compare pillicock "penis," attested from early 14c.
They're called peacocks because they're peafowl who are cocks. It's a way older term than the slang usage.
AWAIL (A while ago I learned) that butterflies are named that because they like to drink the fatty cream that form atop of fresh milk that's used to make butter.
This also goes for german. The Schmetter in Schmetterling has ethymological connections to Schmalz
Estonian edition (I'm not a native speaker): viinamäetigu. Not related to any alcohol (viin), does not live on mountains (mäe), mostly found outside of vineyards (viinamäe). At least it is a snail (tigu).
With that logic, the common barn owl should be called the bald barn owl. The grey-crowned crane should be the bald grey-crowned crane. The harpy eagle should be the bald harpy eagle. Also, the great white shark should be the bald great white shark, mosquitos should be bald mosquitos, and amoebas should be called bald amoebas.
I wonder if you don't know that "/s” denotes the end of a sarcastic comment. Maybe you didn't see it. Or perhaps you regularly deal with people who hold this belief in earnest.
Ohh yeah that's fair, In my head they're dishonest about themselves because they're unlike the cartoon. my child self must've been very offended by that if I still feel that that way. can't say that i really remember though...
That really is why I picked my username. I think the idea of a squid leaping out of the water on a jet and then actually soaring and steering through the air is just about the coolest thing I can imagine.
I agree that horseshoe crabs are sorta misnamed, but: horseshoe crabs have like six fucking different kinds of eyes. Even that tail thingie is like one big eye. You try crawling around in the fucking mud and surviving for 400 million years - these beautiful bastards have no problem with it.
Sure but what the OP was saying is that these common definitions of fish are paraphyletic. In order to make a monophyletic group including everything we call fish, we'd have to include humans, birds, lizards, etc. And going by the water-and-gills definition, this group would include things we tend not to call fish like crabs, amphibians, sea slugs, some insects... Not to mention that gills have evolved multiple times. And something like a frog being not a fish but it's larvae being fish doesn't make sense for cladistics.
separates humans from trout
I'm a little bit curious about why you specifically selected humans to be differentiated from fish
This is just because English sucks, or English speaking people suck at naming things. Let me show you how it's done:
In Dutch:
Horseshoe crabs are called "dagger crabs", and look what it's dragging behind.
Cuttlefish are called "ink fish", and tadaa.
Jellyfish are "kwallen", which means roughly "annoying person", and they're pretty annoying.
Bald eagles are "American Eagles", you're welcome.
A sand dollar is called a "sea coin", because of where it lives and what it resembles, which is way more accurate.
And a fly is still a fly.
In Dutch, the Common Drone Fly is also called "Blinde Bij", which means "Blind Bee". This is because this animal is neither blind nor a bee and the Dutch are very good at naming things
I read Blinde Bij as Blind Bitch lmao
Animals who do not live up to thier names Dutch edition.
Dagger Crabs - Don't have daggers and not crabs.
Ink Fish - Not actually fish.
Kwallen- Not actually a person.
American Eagles - Found all over Canada and upper Mexico.
Sea Coins - Can't actually be used as coins.
Canada and Mexico are still America so I‘d say it does live up to its name
Nobody refers to Canada or Mexico as America. North America is not America and American is exclusively used to refer to the US.
Well apparently not exclusively so, at least outside of the US, because the American Eagle is not just US-American.
Not exclusively, no. It usually means the US, but it's far from exclusive. Especially when it comes to species names, the assumption is absurd.
There's also a European Eagle.
Incorrect
Found the US person.
No. Canadian.
Funny how Canadians don't want to be called "American", Mexicans don't want to be called "American", but everyone from outside the area INSISTS that it's an appropriate name for them. Even the commenter above called you a "US person", the only other time I've seen that was in legislation about immigration, never as a demonym.
Canada and Mexico are still part of the Americas.
American doesn't refer to North America in naming animals or its people. No one from Canada or Mexico call themselves American.
Secretarybird: refuses to schedule my meetings
:::spoiler Nevermind, I found one
I'm sorry.. just... so sorry.. :::
I really like this one
https://aggretsuko.fandom.com/wiki/Washimi
king cobra - not a true cobra & snakes are largely self-organizing without monarchs
We’re more of an autonomous collective!
I like the philosophical implications of the word king in the context of king snakes. For snakes, it just means that their diet consists primarily of other snakes. This implies that to be a king is to be a predator who preys on his own subjects.
They're probably anarchist
Ssssssssnake jazz
Checkmate
Animals that live up to their acronym:
Change my mind
Animals that live up to their backronym:
Pink inquisitive grunter
It's probably a typo but 'backronym' is a great word and concept. Backwards acronym.
It's a real word. And used correctly in context so unlikely to be a typo.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/backronym
https://www.wordnik.com/words/backronym
Acronyms were very rare prior to about mid 20thC.
A number of words sound like they should be an acronym or people searching for an explanation of them make backronyms out of them.
Posh and rap being turned into acronyms as per the first like are good examples of a backronym.
Bat (useless as a blunt weapon)
A bat bat on the other hand...
Manbatman or Batmanbat?
Pretty sure that’s a man bat bat. A bat bat bat would use a bat bat, like this one:
now that just depends on your swing game
In my town there's a shop that sells rocks and crystals etc. They also sell sand dollars for $1. That's right, there's a 1:1 conversion rate between sand dollars and USD.
They probably never change that price either, so it's actually pinned to the dollar.
Better than most* cryptos.
*well...
Interesting. In south FL you can (or could, been a while) hit certain places and find the keyhole variant by the hundreds. Fascinating creature, all those tube feet to move. It's illegal to take them but that didn't stop shops from selling the ones that "washed up" which doesn't really happen.
But for some reason people actually buy them. It's a skeleton of a creature someone scooped up and let bake in the sun for a month. Kinda creepy!
Oh no, I always thought they washed up like seashells! Poor things.
It's quite possible, just not my experience. I've seen a lot of really neat shells and stuff wash up but not sand dollars. So i don't want to suggest people actually do that. But it's certainly easy enough. Probably why it's illegal.
I do suggest, if you get the chance, to check them out live. As i kid i had a few skeletons but seeing them in action was way cooler. It's not super exciting or anything, just kinda neat. Same as another one on that list - the horseshoe crab. I helped one get out of a shallow and it seemed appreciative.. at least as much as an ancient creature can be.
Stingrays are kinda dicks though so keep that in mind.
They probably do wash up sometimes, just not often enough to support the tourist trade.
But can you buy stuff with sand dollars? Checkmate atheists!
Animals that live up to their names ;
Do babadooks actually dook any babas?
All the time.
No but their ooks are ba-bad.
Ba-bad to the bone.
Sea cucumber - not a cucumber
I’ve never seen one cucumb.
I once attended a traditional Chinese wedding and it's customary to serve sea cucumber soup as one of the dishes. Tales say it strengthens your fertility. Let me tell you, that shit is inedible. Soup is a euphemism, it's closer to a brine that has some penis-shaped object with gristle-like texture floating around.
It was probably the most expensive dish of the evening, but it was the only one I didn't finish.
Animal that does not live up to its name:
cuttlefish - is not a fish
Animal that does live up to its name:
woodpecker
TIL woodpeckers have a massive wooden cock
I dunno, my local woodpecker attacks my aluminum downspouts every few weeks. Not the most literal of birds.
This leads me to one of my favourite dad jokes:
Can't wait to bust that one out when I see my nephew
I was wondering, why it's called "vampire squid". I guess, due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_squid
I was actually fine not knowing holy shit that's nightmare fuel.
Praying mantis had me rolling haha.
I'm pretty sure ca. 50% of peacocks have one.
actually, all or nearly all peacocks have cocks. the ones that don't are peahens.
I was under the impression that male birds do not possess a protruding organ but indeed have a hole too, hence ‘no cock’.
didn't think i would be googling "peacock genitalia" today. anyway, you are right. i was confused because I know that ducks have penises, but as I just found out, ducks are actually an exception in the bird world. most birds just kind of rub their holes together. this is sometimes called "cloacal kiss", which is really funny.
TIL, and thank you for allowing me to avoid googling that
Peacocks actually have no penis whatsoever. Be glad. You give a bird a penis and they get really into rape
See also: ducks
i wish i didn't have to see it honestly. i saw duck rape too many times and it's horrible every time.
That's interesting. I only knew about ducks and assumed peacocks would be similar.
They do look the raping kind, i'll give you that
Animal that does not live up to its name:
Red Panda. Not Red, not a panda
Animal that lives up to its name:
Sloth
Panda bears were actually named that after the red panda, so really it's they who aren't pandas
But pretty fucking amazing with that kicking bowls onto her head while riding a unicycle thing - while listening to the world's most annoying song ever.
Bearded dragons do have beards! Just made of spikes instead of hair.
Peacocks have cocks. Peahens do not.
Also:
Spider (doesn't actually spy)
Peacocks don't have a pecker in their privates. Instead of a johnson, they have a cloaca. No willie.
The cloaca holds both the penis and the butthole on a male, and the vagina on a female. They still have penetrative sex. They're not fish. It just doesn't poke outside the body.
Can you back that up? I've spent the last 10 minutes searching up cloaca diagrams and pictures and articles and I can't find any decent information about it. Only saying that they do a cloaca kiss and transfer sperm, but then I can't find a cloaca diagram that labels any part as a penis.
I couldn't find anything specific to peacocks either, but plenty of various other birds, including chickens which have the smallest little nub of a penis to ducks and their long, twisty corkscrew cock.
Yeah, I'm not sure you could call whatever a chicken does "penetrative", and I feel like the term "penis" has a specific meaning that wouldn't include cloaca.
Thank you for the image, btw
They're called peacocks because they're peafowl who are cocks. It's a way older term than the slang usage.
AWAIL (A while ago I learned) that butterflies are named that because they like to drink the fatty cream that form atop of fresh milk that's used to make butter.
This also goes for german. The Schmetter in Schmetterling has ethymological connections to Schmalz
Stop trying to make AWAIL happen. It's not going to happen.
I tried to. But, alas, to no awail
They don't like the fat, it was just a folk tale that they do. They were thought to steal the butter for some reason.
An older, still regionally used German name for the butterfly reflects that: Molkendieb.
Bird that does not live up to its name: tit.
Estonian edition (I'm not a native speaker): viinamäetigu. Not related to any alcohol (viin), does not live on mountains (mäe), mostly found outside of vineyards (viinamäe). At least it is a snail (tigu).
Tit does live up to its name! It's an archaic word for a small thing. https://www.etymonline.com/word/tit#etymonline_v_13361
Still used in the phrase titbit in the UK, which Americans censored to tidbit.
Hence also "tit for tat"!
Same name in German: Wein (wine) + Berg (mountain) = Weinberg (vinyard); Schnecke (snail) -> Weinbergschnecke.
Hermit crab - I would not expect hermits to spend so much time and effort on acquiring bigger houses.
Im 99.9% certain that whomever named the ping pong tree sponge was high, drunk or both at the moment of inspiration 😄
The sunfish checks out, though, since it likes sunbathing.
Bald Eagles have no hair. Ergo, bald? /S
With that logic, the common barn owl should be called the bald barn owl. The grey-crowned crane should be the bald grey-crowned crane. The harpy eagle should be the bald harpy eagle. Also, the great white shark should be the bald great white shark, mosquitos should be bald mosquitos, and amoebas should be called bald amoebas.
I wonder if you don't know that "/s” denotes the end of a sarcastic comment. Maybe you didn't see it. Or perhaps you regularly deal with people who hold this belief in earnest.
You thought my comment was serious? Whoa...
What about a roadrunner? They do occasionally run on roads in real life, so they do live up to their name.
Ohh yeah that's fair, In my head they're dishonest about themselves because they're unlike the cartoon. my child self must've been very offended by that if I still feel that that way. can't say that i really remember though...
I can’t believe it’s not butterfly
Moths
Elephant shrew: not an elephant, not a shrew
Golden mole: not a mole
Otter shrew: not an otter, not a shrew
You otter quit while you're ahead.
Not every praying mantis is atheist some worship the moon
all preying mantis worship the blade.
False gharials
they are gharials
Ahem.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-squid-fly/
Clever
That really is why I picked my username. I think the idea of a squid leaping out of the water on a jet and then actually soaring and steering through the air is just about the coolest thing I can imagine.
if you throw cappy at them you can experience it for yourself.
They has achieve what other animals dont, gliding through 2 different media.
Bald eagles are too bald! They have neither hair nor treads, they have feathers.
Also, the name comes from the archaic definition, meaning roughly "white-headed". They certainly qualify on that.
Donkey: does not open locks
Sloths?
What about dog vomit slime mold?
Hippopotamus - neither a horse nor a river.
I agree that horseshoe crabs are sorta misnamed, but: horseshoe crabs have like six fucking different kinds of eyes. Even that tail thingie is like one big eye. You try crawling around in the fucking mud and surviving for 400 million years - these beautiful bastards have no problem with it.
ant eater
They dont eat ants???
No no, I meant as an example of it actually does what it says
The Antarctic Midge sends its regards.
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erinsintra #animals that do not live up to their names
#animals that live up to their names
Since there isn't really any agreed upon scientific definition what "a fish" is, it's pretty much a perfect name
are you sure?
There is no sensible phylogenetic definition of "fish" which includes both trout and sharks but not humans.
See here for a list of "fish" which respire using gills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gill#Amphibians
I don't see humans on that list.
Seems pretty easy to me. Even lungfish have gills.
Axolotl are fish
Frogs are fish
Do frogs have gills? The tadpole stage of frogs might be fish, but adult frogs aren't fish.
But, whether or not you want to consider axolotl and frogs fish, "gills" is a neat line that separates humans from trout and sharks.
Sure but what the OP was saying is that these common definitions of fish are paraphyletic. In order to make a monophyletic group including everything we call fish, we'd have to include humans, birds, lizards, etc. And going by the water-and-gills definition, this group would include things we tend not to call fish like crabs, amphibians, sea slugs, some insects... Not to mention that gills have evolved multiple times. And something like a frog being not a fish but it's larvae being fish doesn't make sense for cladistics.
I'm a little bit curious about why you specifically selected humans to be differentiated from fish
No eyed big eyed spider
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erinsintra
animals that do not live up to their names
animals that live up to their names
Dragonfly - Not a dragon, nor a fly
Aaaaaaaaaktually......
... peacocks have cocks and bearded dragons have beards they just aren't made of hair.
Peacocks do not have cocks. Bother male and female have cloacae(like 99% of birds)
Beard, by definition, must be hair.
Bearded dragons do not have a beard. They were named as such because thier throat turns black and puffs up. Giving the appearance of a beard.
They also, more importantly, are not dragons.