[Update: Failed again] Update to 0.18.1-rc.1 tried and rolled back
We've upgraded lemmy.world to 0.18.1-rc.1 and rolled back that upgrade because of issues.
(If you had posted anything in those 10 minutes between upgrade and rollback, that post is gone. Sorry!)
The main issue we saw is that users can't login anymore. Existing sessions still worked, but new logins failed (from macos, ios and android. From linux and windows it worked)
Also new account creation didn't work.
I'll create an issue for the devs and retry once it's fixed.
Edit Contacted the devs, they tell me to try again with lemmy-ui at version 0.18.0. Will try again, brace for some downtime!
Edit 2 So we upgraded again, and it seemed to work nicely! But then it slowed down so much it was unuseable. There were many locks in the database. People reported many JSON errors. Sorry, we won't be on 0.18.1 any time soon I'm afraid..
Thank you for the transparancy!
I love post like this, another reason of why this instance is so good
Thanks for all your hard work @[email protected]. It's not easy!
Both Dessalines and Nutomic have been working their butts off to get 0.18.x ready for the Reddit API changes. Huge hopes they can pull through!
Dessalines:
Nutomic:
Yeah they've been hard at work all month. But it's also okay if things aren't ready in time. Most of the people who matter are already here.
Maybe we will blow up soon, maybe later, but the quality of content here is sufficient to drive growth regardless of whether or not we get the prophesized huge migrations from reddit
Agreed. I'm here to stay with the content from the last couple weeks. 3 day poop embargoes alone is worth it. And recognizing users because the community is still small enough is SO different from they who shall not be named.
It's adequate the way it is now. They should hold off on any major upgrades until after the next batch of new users come in. Lemmy breaking during that period would be far worse then missing some updates and new features.
Oh god, so much coffee... it's also thrilling to grasp a sense of what's going on under the hood of such big social networks at a development level (not like I could understand it, but it was very interesting to see twitter's recommendation algorithm being open-sourced)
Ouch, that's bad :(
Thank you for your work, as always :)
I mean that’s a Tuesday on Reddit lmao.
As any engineer who does ops can tell you - you did the right thing - the solution is always to roll back, never force a roll forward, ever.
We should totally do pre and post update parties though. Even if the update fails we can have an excuse for drinks and a fun thread.
Oh. Good luck with the next try!
Reasons I can think of:
The official Android client for lemmy, Jerboa, only supports 0.18 and later, unless users download older version from github and sideload manually.
Sorting is broken pre 0.18, new posts keeps flowing in.
Performance improvement by removing web socket from lemmy. (which fixes 2, which is why 1. happens)
Jerboa works fine with lemmy world, it just gives a warning and crashes on occasion. Not an issue to use it though.
Yes, if you are already logged in. If you are not logged in, or get logged out you will not be able to log back in until the server version is above 0.18
And jerboa recommended logging out. Hmm.
For me at least, I'm unable to change the community scope or sorting method. The only thing I can use Jerboa for is "local" and sorted by "active". It isn't totally unusable, but I would much rather be able to switch to subscribed and hot.
I had the same bug. A full restart of my phone seems to have fixed it.
Unfortunately that didn't work for me. Thanks for the idea, though. I'm sure it will work for some. I suspect that if I wiped the app and set everything back up it might work, but that's more than I'm willing to do at the moment and I can live with the inconvenience for now.
Alternatively, you can try this fork: https://lemmy.ca/post/899342
Édit : https://lemmy.ca/post/998253
That sounds like Bethesda's definition of "works fine"
It just works, it just works...
It works fine if you apply unofficial patch!
I tried it again and you are totally correct if you see this message.
I do
That is absolutely not "fine".
With the last couple updates jerboa has got to a point that I probably won't even move to sync when it comes. I'm pretty happy with it. But if Lemmy Is Fun ever happens, I'm out.
As a new user I tried logging in on Jerboa and it says the server must be on 0.18 and refuses the login.
Have you tried this fork? https://lemmy.ca/post/899342
Édit : https://lemmy.ca/post/998253
Thanks for the link. I knew could side load an older version, I just wanted to be lazy and use something on the play store. I'm trying out several clients right anyway.
With the last couple updates jerboa has got to a point that I probably won't even move to sync when it comes. I'm pretty happy with it. But if Lemmy Is Fun ever happens, I'm out.
I'm of a similar mind: I'm happy with Jerboa, yet also looking forward to Slide.
Well you're a lucky one. Jerboa has been unusable for me and other folks post v0.34 since the first rc release of 0.18. I finally managed to downgrade to 0.34 and login after lots of black magic. It used to crash instantly, even on 0.34.
That being said, good luck to lemmy.world admins and thanks a lot for the open comms !
It won't let me log in, so no, it doesn't "work fine." But I have six other apps for Lemmy, so I'm not worried. It'll all be sorted eventually.
Alternatively, you can try this fork: https://lemmy.ca/post/899342
Édit : https://lemmy.ca/post/998253
The latest update of jerboa did not let me browse all communities. I had to sideload a previous version.
Unfortunately, the occasion seems to be at least once every five minutes for me. thisisfine.jpg This is not fine and definitely a major issue. Especially as we get closer to July 1. After this news from lemmy.world, I will have to switch, until Sync arrives. Update: Liftoff is fantastic, give it a try!
Have you tried this fork? https://lemmy.ca/post/899342
Try wefwef.app on mobile
(no I'm not a bot account shilling I just really like the app)
You made me try it, and I've just switched from Jerboa! It has more of an "Infinity" feel to it. Also tried Liftoff today, wasn't my cup of tea either.
The design is a copy of Apollo
If there was a way to adjust the font sizes it would be 100% perfect. Damn! I'm surprised I hadn't heard of it before. Thanks internet stranger!
I have been testing this web app today and I'm really surprised of how it good it looks and behaves... I kinda want it as a standalone app now though.
It's an open issue on their github (https://github.com/aeharding/wefwef). Will probably be available soon, the development seems to be fast - I got two updates in a single day. Also tagging @[email protected]
I'm sold. 😊 I did need to try a couple of times to figure out I needed to swipe left to reply to a comment, though. But it looks good, works well, and I'll get used to the quirks.
Even that won't work, because Jerboa initially tries to connect to lemmy.ml which is running 0.18, which older versions of Jerboa aren't compatible with. The app just crashes instantly without giving you the opportunity to log in to your instance.
Why the hell does Jerboa even limit support to 0.18? That's so stupid.
Likely because Jebora is written as a side project of the devs of lemmy so it's always going to be cutting edge
I understand that. I'm not complaining about the quality. I'm just confused from a technical perspective why it doesn't support rollback or older server versions in the event of....this.
The latest version only supports 0.18 because the backend works differently. Older versions of Jerboa support older backends of lemmy.
Connect for Lemmy works better.
Is it open source?
I don't know but I installed and older version of Jerboa from F-Droid store. I couldn't login from the most recent version of Jerboa because of this so it was pretty much useless for me. Working fine so far.
I probably disabled auto updates on my end some time in the past because my Jerboa says its version 0.0.33 and it's working without any noticeable problems. Thanks, past me.
I thought because right now on 0.17 mobile access with jebora is pretty broken and since 0.18 .0 is not an option they are trying to go to 0.18.1 as soon as possible. Even when it means installing rc versions
Federation is completely borked with .18 servers. Its very difficult for us to interact with https://lemmy.ca in any way: subscribing, upvoting, comments, posting... its all bugged.
Its maybe not that big a deal because Lemmy.world "has the most users", so in some regards its https://lemmy.ca's loss but... we need to restore reliable federation... especially before the July 1st rush IMO.
The .17 to .18 upgrade is basically a soft-defederation event, because of whatever this bug is between the two versions.
Ah that explains it. Someone posted a cool photo to my community from lemmy.ca but didn't interact further. Looks like my comment didn't even show up on their end.
Anyway, thanks to everyone working on the issue. I know these things aren't easy.
I'm subscribed to lemmy.ca and programming.dev, both of which are .18 now. Feels kinda bad losing access to those communities while this issue is getting worked out...
I hear you and it is certainly an inconvenience. My solution for now is just to create mirror accounts on a few different instances under the same name. Hopefully the version compatibility will improve as the Lemmy software matures over time.
A Release Candidate is supposed to be past beta testing already and in a state of no major bugs.
Cause if you are on the homepage for a little bit new post start pushing the old post down and it keeps doing it. something about websockets that 18 fixes it. im assuming the admins want to get it out now so people can stop complaining about it. i get it though just wait for the 18 instead of the rc-1 but users are impatient and can't wait for sh*t!
Thanks for the hard work /u/ruud, we'll get there
Running one of the largest and most vibrant Lemmy instances certainly makes this deployment a great test case for the devs and the system overall. @[email protected] this community really appreciates you!
That doesn't make sense. Of course you can fail. Stop filling the boy's head with this nonsense.
The motivational post is self-explanatory
pretty brutal bug ngl. was hoping I'd be using jerboa again soon
Is the bug with Jerboa that no subscribed communities are showing up? From my point of view logged in now I only have access to lemmy.world communities
Jerboa crashes for me
Download v0.34 from F-droid or Obtainium, which both let you downgrade. It's compatible with Lemmy v0.17.
appreciate the transparency. how are things looking in the back in lemmy.world (server wise)? will we get to a point where it wont require complete rollbacks on the state when a botched update gets rolled out?
I want to upvote, but I get this instead.
Can you clear your browser cache? Should be ok after
Oh man, for a sec there you made me thing I was getting errors 😅
Same on thunder app
I'm getting the same on my iPhone through lemmy.world
Suddenly my Jerboa won't change from local and I can't change the sort. Not sure if this is related, but it was working fine yesterday after I updated the app. But no longer this morning.
Yeah we have a test instance, but not sure if we could test with this kind of load...
This is the problem. The big servers have accumulated data that is not in the testing servers and smaller peers. Lemmy instances start out with no data, and joining a community from a remote instance only brings in new data. So far, the big servers have not openly published their lemmy_server logging so we don't know what is going on inside the Rust code - we are only seeing the symptoms with front-end crashes and federation failing to get comments to other servers.
There are already 3 test instances where devs push updates before going live, but:
I am glad I didn't write my last post during the upgrade process.
Maybe next time, give a warning, or maintenance notice.
Thanks for trying though.
Was worth a try! But yeah that was pretty bad 😬
Yep that was terribly slow
You see even with a test instance it's hard to find things like these. Hard to similate this load
Automated load testing with 3rd party servers won't even do it right either.
I’ve found from hopping around some other instances that have upgraded to 0.18 that it is still pretty buggy. It does seem to be giving more information about the errors, instead of just failing like in 0.17, but spend any time browsing on those instances and you’re bound to be inundated with JSON and query errors. It also seems to get worse the longer you browse.
The UI changes are nice, and I do appreciate not having my feed auto-updating constantly, but I think you’d be making the right choice to hold off on upgrading until they can iron 0.18.1 out all the way. I’m not super knowledgeable about TS and Rust, but as a user it seems that switching from WebSocket created/shined a light on Lemmy’s issues with caching in general.
Im already in lemmy 0.19.0
this comment is from the future
How is it?
Replies don’t work
Can confirm. The future is broken
The future is broken already. People seem to forget we are the cause of it.
Thanks for the transparency. Maybe it’s a good idea to have a test instance and some test cases/validation done there before updating the main instance. This is a regular process in any software/tech company/stack.
Testing should never be done directly on the prod instance.
i think they tested it which worked fine, but it is totally different when there are users online
Correct there was a test instance and that worked fine but once the live instance was upgraded everything became very slow. Can't really emulate that kind of load
Good luck! May the software gods bless you with a functioning website with minimal bugs!
Linux/Firefox After upgrade many things didn't work, but they continued not to work after rollback.
Turns out I needed to clear the cache, then everything worked fine again.
Dude I posted the funniest comment in those 10 minutes but you all must have missed it. Oh well 😅
RC2RC4 was just released, here's hoping it solves the issues you were experiencing with performance of RC1!I'm so new, I'm a baby, I have no idea what I'm doing. I did just create my account, I tried using the app but it wouldn't let me. Saying server version too low. I'm sorry for my ignorance, but is this what that means? And this means we can't use the app yet right?
Also, thank you for all of this. I will be here for it all, I'm staying forever! I already love this so much more than anything else 🥰
You are probably on Jerboa. Either downgrade or use the web UI interim.
Or use any of the other apps
What are the other apps? Please & thank you. I just found this on boru in Reddit & am jumping in blind. So excuse my ignorance & thank you for your help 😭
Thank you! I will give it a shot for now. I am def gonna be learning as much as I can to better understand how to use Lemmy.
Have a look here: https://lemmy.world/post/465785
Oh thank you so much!!
As others have mentioned, Liftoff and Thunder are working without issue. Liftoff should be available in the Play Store, not sure about the app store though.
Thank you so much 😊 I'm on Android, so I'll take a look at them.
Connect seems to be working fine for me. You can get it from the google play store if you don't want to have to fiddle with trying to do some fancy install stuff.
Here's an overview outlining some different options. I'm using Connect at the moment
Thank you very much 😊
I had issues with Jerboa and some others. Connect for Lemmy worked fine and it's being updated daily, it seems. Everytime i open it, it's more polished and has new features.
I'm also just a few days in and learning as i go.
Nice! I will give it a try, thank you so much 😊
There's a few of them. Connect, liftoff, summit, jerboa, lemmur, and mlem (iOS) seem to be the front runners so far. Apparently the person who made sync for reddit is working on one for lemmy which seems very promising since a ton of people really liked sync but it's not out yet.
You can also kinda use the website as an app if you want but that's not exactly what you were asking.
Lemmur is actually discontinued and has been forked to become Liftoff
Sorry, I'm so dumb.. is there a place I can learn how to use Lemmy better? I don't know how to downgrade 🥲
Thank you for your help.
No problem. Most lemmy instances currently experience some growing pains due to sudden influx of new users. Meanwhile we have to be patient and use e.g. https://lemmy.world instead of the mobile app you are using. Or try a different app, I personally am looking forward to Slide for Lemmy.
Oh nice! Thank you!
I am currently on the website over app atm. And I completely understand the growing pains. I'm here for it all, I will wait patiently 😌
Hello and welcome! This guide will give you a bit of information on the workings of Lemmy https://lemmy.world/post/37906
Ooh, thank you! This is exactly what I needed. 🥰
In Jerboa? Yeah. There's other apps for Android though in development.
For example I'm enjoying Thunder: https://github.com/hjiangsu/thunder/releases/download/v0.2.1%2B7/thunder-v0.2.1+7.apk
And there's also Liftoff and Connect for Lemmy on the Play store.
Until we can get the instance updated, yeah the jerboa app doesn't really work. You could try another app, I'm using liftoff but that's harder to install, you could Google "thunder Lemmy" and try that one, I haven't tested it much but I've heard good things
Thank you for your help 😊
Connect for something is another okey-ish one I've been using in the mean time. I'll probably change to something else once we're updated but it works for now.
I'm a newbie too and that happened when I tried to sign into Jerboa. Using Thunder app now because I don't know how to fix the other one.
It seems that my Hot feed has been stuck for the last day or two.
Damn, Im glad you tried, and thanks for the update! I just really want the front page fixed without changing to page 0 lol. That and the 3/6/12 hour filter option.
Keep us updated. Im bouncing back and forth between LW, KBIN, and .ml for now though
any recommendations on other instances I should try outside the lemmy-verse and kbin-verse?
Thank you for the update
the work you've done in the last month is incredible. I hope you can get some rest in between bursts of carrying the instance on your shoulders
Thats for all the work you're doing on this.
Just FYI, here is a different recurring issue that keeps coming back, I've strictly been using lemmy.world website, keep receiving MLB Game stats for the same day when opening random links, just happened when I opened this thread to view comments. So far if I just reload the page it will then show the correct content. But it keeps happening.
Strange, probably one of those weird Websockets issues that should be solved in 0.18....
I've had the same issue a few days ago, so far nothing too major since it can be refreshed like you mentioned, but still a nuisance.
Same, it happens to me a lot!
@[email protected] just wondering if you have considered setting up a second, beta, instance of lemmy.world open to the public?
With all the performance issues with 0.18.1, it's highlighted that there needs to be a way to stress test these updates before applying them to the main instance.
Jerboa is almost unusable for me at the moment. A lot of crashes, pages not loading, messages not sending etc. But I know that's inevitable at times. Restarting my phone seemed to make it worse. But I know you guys are on it! 👍
I recommend you this web app
https://wefwef.app
It is almost as functional as Jerboa and very impressive for a web app.
Already has a lot of what I liked about Apollo just in a web app, very cool!
It works unbelievable well.
Wow, awesome design!!!
I'm impressed as well, I don't even like web apps, but God this looks amazing, and even better for me because I have an Android device and it has been ages since I used Apollo lol.
I just switched to it, Had tried jerboa, connect and liftoff and this one is by far my favorite
Yeah it has plenty of good features already!
Currently rate-limited by Lemmy.world, per the dev. You might get a lot of red error boxes.
Why?
Too much traffic going through the app, as he explained it. I would try to link the post, but everything is so janky on both Lemmy.world and our wonderful Apollo clone that I can’t be bothered.
Too much traffic because it is an outstanding app, gotcha.
Liftoff is a much better app. I used Jerboa as well but found an alternative cuz it was pretty much unusable. Just dowload Liftoff's latest apk and install
Holy crap I just checked right now and Liftoff is on Playstore already!
I am using it too, quite nice, it still miss some quality life features, but I am they will get to it.
I'll admit this is probably something I can Google, but is there any scale-out options for a given Lemmy instance, or is it designed to be hosted in a single server?
Bummer. Other instances apparently managed to upgrade, but none has the scale of lemmy.world, so that was bound to stretch things to their breaking point. Hopefully the devs are on top of whatever's causing it!
That was indeed what happened.
In the meantime I've migrated over to Connect for Lemmy on Android, and it is working significantly better than Jerboa did.
maybe they could partner with other app developers, so they can spend more time in the lemmy code instead of the app
Thunder has been making leaps in the last few updates as well.
Appreciate the communication & the effort.
thanks for your hard work ruud!
I had a weird issue after it upgraded. My browser (Firefox on Android) showed the Lemmy UI but showed no posts. I checked my profile to see if I was logged in, and it showed I was logged in as someone else! I cleared my cache and refreshed, it showed I wasn't logged in. Logging in worked fine, and showed my expected posts and my actual profile. In Liftoff app my account worked fine the whole time, didn't need to log in again.
It was just a visual bug, happened to me too. As soon as I tried accessing the profile section I was logged out and couldn't login again.
Looks like we're still having issues, more's the pity.
Do we know what's causing the issue, or is it still a bit of a mystery for the time being?
That's alright. Thanks for all your hard work!
Sucks that lemmy.world won't be working with Jerboa when the reddit apps quit working in a couple days.
Jerboa still works fine with lemmy.world. It pops up a warning that the server version is unsupported, but it still seems to work fine.
Better than being flooded with bots.
alternatives like LiftOff is available
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.liftoffapp.liftoff&pli=1
It will work, I'm using it. Just ignore the warning message
On the plus side, I'm about to open the beta that handles both just fine (plus a lot of features no one else is doing yet). The deadline I for myself is Saturday when the Reddit clients go down.
Unfortunately it was built by someone who lurks and comments, and I realized even though merging feeds from accounts on different servers is going to be awesome, other people like to post and I need to stop getting off track
The stress of the timeline is starting to get to me and I'm terrified no one is going to give it a chance, but I've fixed most of the things that drove me nuts in jerboa... That should count for something, right?
On the plus side, I'm about to open the beta that handles both just fine (plus a lot of features no one else is doing yet). The deadline I for myself is Saturday when the Reddit clients go down.
Unfortunately it was built by someone who lurks and comments, and I realized even though merging feeds from accounts on different servers is going to be awesome, other people like to post and I need to stop getting off track
The stress of the timeline is starting to get to me and I'm terrified no one is going to give it a chance, but I've fixed most of the things that drove me nuts in jerboa... That should count for something, right?
Thanks for the update, good luck!
After the update I can no longer log in or interact with Jerboa. Hopefully y'all resolve this soon, as I am really digging Jerboa, but thanks for letting us know what's going on, and keeping up the good work.
Posted after Edit 2.
I would like to manage my expectations. Yesterday we were looking at 0.18.1 being sent out in about week from the devs. Was 0.18.1-rc.1 what we thought they'd have ready? Do we still think the 7-10 day window is likely?
rc.1 is the first Release Candidate of that version - not the final one, so between now and a week a lot can still happen.
Thanks. It's neat how active you and the other admins are. You guys dedicate a lot of time to individual comments, and not just on this thread.
No they said in a week they would have it final. But maybe it will take a bit longer....
Lemmy seems like a herculean undertaking. I can't imagine anyone doing the nuts and bolts for free or on any schedule, so it's quite amazing to me that we can talk about getting updates like this.
Thanks for all your hard work
Your time and efforts in keeping this instance going are most appreciated! Thanks again!
Thank you for the hard work Ruud!
Thank you for your work!
If at first you don't succeed, try every other RC until proper :)
We have a good thing going, don't rush it, we'll wait :) and thank you for your service.
Bummer. What keeps me from using Lemmy more atm is that it‘s unresponsive and gets stuck a lot on my end (iOS). I was hoping the update would improve on this. I hope future upgrades work better. Thanks for your work!
Jerboa crashes constantly for me now, doesn't even let me view anything. JSYK!
Need to downgrade the UI I think? The frontpage is empty because the UI version is 0.18 while the backend is at 0.17.4.
Thanks again to all admins!
Can you do a Ctrl-F5 and if that doesn’t help clear your browser cache?
works now thanks!
Nice!
Not that we'd get them during maintenance but this is a good reason to have some kind of DM system.
You can always contact our Mastodon account @[email protected]
Thanks. Following now. Maybe that would be a good place to cross post to when an upgrade happens.
Dang, I updated Jerboa too hastily, time to figure out how to downgrade back to 0.34
I don't see version 0.0.34 unfortunately, but here are some options. I think apkmirror is a safe source. https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type=app_release&searchtype=apk&s=jerboa
For the future; there are apps that can save your apk's, so you can always downgrade if necessary. Check out on f-droid for open source apps that you like. I have been doing this for years, because it happens quite often that an app version is buggy or they suddenly add annoying features and then you can instantly downgrade.
Yep, I was able to use F-Droid to download and install the older version (either using official F-Droid app or Aurora Droid), it's just not something I've had to do often.
All release versions are available on github. https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/releases
The only issue I'm having is the pop up when I open it. Otherwise it works fine, but I was already logged in.
I'm using 0.35 and have no issues with the 0.17.3 server. I was already logged in though. I'm also using [email protected] though, works with all instances I have an account on.
The 0.34 crashes on startup... Unless I put it in airplane mode to navigate to the login page, then it works fine. 0.35 doesn't crash on startup, but will not let you log into Lemmy.world. Rough growing pains.
Then I'd use liftoff for now as app. To be honest, I like that app a tad more then Jerboa.
Everything is pretty experimental now. The fast growth due to Reddit's harakiri is showing some issues not yet thought off. ;)
I tried 0.35 and I still can't log in. Says the server version is too low. I'm using Thunder now but I've heard good things above Jerboa and really wanted to try it.
I'm messing about with Liftoff at the moment. Works well and I could login on lemnmy .world as well as others. (.ml and .studio)
Thanks for trying and keeping us updated!
What changes does the new release candidate offer?
Is there any place that people can assist in trying to figure out issues?
Well you can either help the devs via their Github, or if you wanna help sysadmin the server I can send you a link to our Discord.
Thanks for the response, Going to look into the github/code side but I may reach out in the near future to help where needed. 😀
Thank you for the hard work and the transparency!
Thank you and good luck!
All the support you need @ruud
0.18.1-rc.1 seems to be working ok on my tiny instance. I had upgraded from 0.18.0.
Disappointing to see progress stymied, but not surprised. Nothing worth doing is ever easy, is it?
Lovin is easy
So are we stable now? I lost some posts and comments this morning.
Yeah we won't try again until a stable version is released with the performance issues fixed..
10-4. Thanks for doing the lord's work.
Will there be a rc.2? Where can we look up details of the Lemmy release schedule?
Thanks for your hard work.
You're fighting the good fight on our behalf! 💪
Good luck next time. Thank you for your hard work & transparancy.
I managed to visit when the server was 0.18.1-rc. I didn’t see any posts and the selector for Subscribed, Local and All was “empty”, as in nothing was selected and I could not select anything.
Thanks to all the team at lemmyworld for the hard work ❤
Thank you for the effort and good luck!
Thank you for all your efforts.
Sucks that you couldnt get it working yet, but there are bound to be problems at this scale.
Anyone have any resources for learning what running a lemmy server is like ? Seems pretty interesting
If you're running a small server it's pretty straightforward and hands-off. It's only when you get to the scale of these larger instances that you run into issues. I just rerun ansible every time there's an update and it otherwise just manages itself.
Maybe next time GGs
It's okay lads. Take your time.
Thanks for posting your experience. Valuable info for other admins.
@ruud Lemmy is empty for me right now. I was able to browse in 0.18.1, but it was really slow and tons of JSON problems.
Please clear your cache
@ruud I took the screenshot now (UI: 0.18.0
BE: 0.17.4)
Clear your browser cache. I had the same
Having this issue with Firefox 114.0.2 on Linux, clear cache doesn't work, ctrl+F5 does.
Thanks for the info. You're doing a great job!
I’ve tried to sign up for days and still cannot. The thing just spins after the code. I had to sign up with Lem.ee
0.17.4 has a number of glitches with regards to signup that silently fails (!!!).
A password that's too long, underscores in your username, username already taken... issues that should be detected as an error simply spin-and-spin-and-spin on 0.17.4.
Thanks for the update! We'll brace for some downtime!
Thank you for your effort and keeping us up to date. Hopefully we will get a working 0.18 version soon.
Thanks for everything that you're doing to make Lemmy the best place after Reddit sank !
FYI, my UI is currently a bit buggy after the second rollback.
create post UI:
expanding the menu messes up the header:
Can you do a Ctrl-F5 and if that doesn't help clear your browser cache?
o that did it, I should have thought about doing that first.
I do seem to need to do it every time though...
Fingers crossed, good luck!
@[email protected], check out schema migration tools for PostgreSQL.
Is this upgrade because removing websockets broke captchas for the sign up process?
Could they just put a page in front of the signup on the webserver with the captcha that needs to be passed first?
Thanks for keeping us updated.
My body is ready
What apps work for android?
Check here for an overview: https://lemmy.world/post/465785
Basically all except for Jerboa
Cheers! Which is most like RiF?
Thanks for all the hard work!
Thank you so much for all the hard work here, I know how frustrating attempting an upgrade like this can be.
thanks for the effort, hope the next rc. or stable will be out quick
What a roller-coaster ride reading that post! Appreciate your team's hard work. Eagerly but patiently awaiting a working update.
Thank you so much for your hard work👍
YOU ROCK!
Thank you for all your hard work! We're gonna get there!
Did you try at lemmy-ui 0.17.4?
From my testing, federation activity alone can be causing over half of this. I really think we need to get controls to 'turn off federation incoming' while bringing up new releases and under performance crisis.
relatable!
So how does this work..is there a beta server to try it on? Or it worked in testing and it only broke with the full amount of users?
Yes, there are three testing servers, but errors still do happen. especially when everyone is in a hurry to release
Could you upgrade to 0.18.0? The android app doesn't work with 0.17, but it seems to work with 0.18.0
Anyone else's home feed only loading Local > Active ?
I can't get it to load any other new/hot or subscribed/all posts unless I go to a community page and browse one community at a time.
Jerboa?
Yup
@Edit 2: Especially ironic since improved performance was supposed to be one of the selling points.
Hello Lemmy World
Thank you for your work!
I am glad y'all rolled back. I had just enabled 2FA and could not login to my account. Rolling back removed 2FA so I was able to log back in. Thanks.
Which 2FA app did you use? I heard Authy didn't work
Aegis
Thanks for posting this. I was considering enabling it using Aegis, as I hadn't previously seen anyone report failure using that as opposed to Authy.
2FA is cursed.
Thank you for the transparency.
I can't login anymore with my Lemmy.world account (I'm writing this from my feddit account)
When trying to login the circle in the green login button just keeps spinning forever. Is this a known issue?
Can you mail me your account name, send it to [email protected]
Thanks!
Finally got signed up, had to change my username for some crazy reason.
was there a test environment? why rc in production?
Was this also causing the issue federating with Kbin?
This is exactly the kind of issue I was afraid of when switching to Lemmy and seeing its federated, decentralized organization
not really sure what a software bug has to do with a decentralized platform?
Even Big Tech has software bugs that fuck things up all the time. Hell, how many times has iOS updates had to be put on hold over a massive bug?
Lemmy.ml is on 0.18, you are more than welcome to sign up there, but personally I'm cool with a server that is in no rush and would rather wait for functioning softweare.