There's an error there, Tasmania is coloured red. They never visit Tasmania. You live in Tasmania, you want to see your favourite band, it's a plane ticket and a hotel stay, plus ticket. So close and yet so far. I hear the Tasmanians have given up and just built a huge ear horn, to collectively use.
Probably wouldn't be huge bands doing that though, yeah? I would assume that would mostly comprise of older bands, who do one offs? If a larger band were flying in for mofo, wouldn't it be more economically viable for them to do a few spare gigs around the rest of Australia? Seems a waste to gather all that gear and staff, and travel a lot of that, just for one gig.
For sure except, from what I understand, they can afford to pay the bands for exclusivity. I don't think it happens much any more but I've definitely seen more than a few bands come to oz just to play there then leave over the years.
As someone from Alaska, this hurts! I live out of state currently so can't speak for recent or upcoming, but when I was a kid larger bands would come through. Metallica, Kiss, Megadeth & Pantera (I went to those last two) etc. Basically, large bands with good pull. Although, Jewel was going to play once when she was huge but canceled because not enough tickets were sold (Kiss played that night/venue instead ⚡)
I was just guessing ... I'm from northern Ontario in Canada ... I live near Sudbury and whenever there are major concerts, it's always Toronto, which is about four hours from here ... and that's just the distance travellilng to get there, you basically have to set aside two days to attend a concert because if its a major event, thousands of people are doing the same and there will be no hotels, no parking, no taxis, no transport and everything will be expensive ... and even if you've paid for everything, expect hours to get to the venue and hours to leave because of all the traffic.
As someone who has paid out the arse for flights from Wellington to Melbourne to attend an (also expensive) concert, I appreciate the empathy.
The travel isn't the end of the world (it's only a 3 hour and change flight), but of course the prices go way, way up around the dates of major events.
Smaller metal bands don't often have the means to tour off the beaten path. Just the logistics of organising tours in e.g. South America or Africa are likely prohibitively expensive.
Some bigger rock and metal bands have actually been pretty good in touring places that aren't just the standard tour countries.
Smaller bands? Fucking Mastodon are losing money when they go on an international tour nowadays... Times are fucking hard for anyone who isn't a superstar, support the bands you like in any way you can!
For musical tours it's usually something more like: Seattle, LA, a big city in Texas, Minneapolis OR Chicago, Atlanta, NYC and sometimes Boston. But I take your point lol
The odd thing to me is the Minneapolis or Chicago. In pure numbers, it should be Chicago every time, but Minneapolis seems to draw a strangely outsized amount of musical acts. I think it's because MSP is a big airline hub. Or something? I honestly don't know.
Even Norway wouldn't pay the ticket costs. You realize that taking a tour to Norway, when there's no other reasonable options for shows nearby means Norwegians would be paying a massive premium for the artist to get there right?
Lesser known artists don't have the overhead global super stars do. Selling 50k tickets in Norway, would have to be thousands of dollars each to cover the costs because there's nowhere nearby they could travel to efficiently and perform again.
You live in a far away place surrounded by places that don't have a high level of expendable income. I live in a similarly hard to access, not wealthy place and wouldn't expect Taylor Swift or the like to be passing thru at all.
What's Taylor's tickets going for now? I've never considered Norway anything other than a very wealthy country. That's not really the issue it hand here though. The issue is that it's very remote and traveling there is very expensive which would need to be factored into ticket prices which are already very high on these tours that we're seeing. That you think these concerts easily pack up onto a plane or a freaking car just shows you have no idea the scale of performance that you're talking about. Jason Derulo does not have near the stage setup that someone like Taylor Swift would have. That's just an indisputable fact.
Also, and serious question.....if these artists thought they could make money do you think they intentionally skip your country? These are now billion dollar events. They have actuaries that tell them where they can maximize their profits. They can't make their money in Norway so they don't go. Just like they can't make their money in Regina Saskatchewan so they don't go.
I’m guessing that the expected ticket sales don’t justify the additional expense of getting there, or if the tour schedule is busy, there are more profitable places to visit. Just the other week, a Stockholm concert for a US artist touring Europe was cancelled because of too low ticket sales, so I’m guessing margins are tight.
I do alright. I live pretty much smack dab between Detroit, Cleveland, and Columbus so an artist is likely to hit at least one of those. The hour and a half drive before and after a show sucks, but even Chicago and Pittsburgh are close enough for a weekend trip for a show.
In other news, rich artists tend to focus on locations likely to provide a profit and that they're likely to survive the visit.
sad finnish noises
I think a lot of people have a misconception about how much money modern musicians are making
There's an error there, Tasmania is coloured red. They never visit Tasmania. You live in Tasmania, you want to see your favourite band, it's a plane ticket and a hotel stay, plus ticket. So close and yet so far. I hear the Tasmanians have given up and just built a huge ear horn, to collectively use.
yeah the Australian red should just be brisbane, sydney, melbourne.
W.A. and S.A. occasionally get concerts, Tasmania rarely get concerts, and I've never heard of a band going to the N.T.
And Brisbane only if you're lucky.
cries in Canberran
I've been to Canberra but it turned out it was a holiday. That city felt strangely dead.
It's our preference that people recall it that way
Same thing with other large countries like the US and Canada. No band is going up to Alaska or Nunavut.
Except when they come and play exclusively for Dark Mofo and then leave. To be fair to you though, that's rarely part of a "world tour"
Probably wouldn't be huge bands doing that though, yeah? I would assume that would mostly comprise of older bands, who do one offs? If a larger band were flying in for mofo, wouldn't it be more economically viable for them to do a few spare gigs around the rest of Australia? Seems a waste to gather all that gear and staff, and travel a lot of that, just for one gig.
For sure except, from what I understand, they can afford to pay the bands for exclusivity. I don't think it happens much any more but I've definitely seen more than a few bands come to oz just to play there then leave over the years.
Yeah right! Trippy stuff!
That's a lot of Canada colored in for Toronto and maybe Vancouver
As a recent transplant from the US living in not Toronto or Vancouver, I agree.
To be fair to the artist though, I don't think many US tours include any stops in Montana or the Dakotas (nevermind Hawaii or Alaska).
For the US section .... I think they skip coloring Alaska too.
?? What about when the Internet sent pitbull to Kodiak?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/07/internet-votes-to-send-rapper-pitbull-to-alaska-walmart
As someone from Alaska, this hurts! I live out of state currently so can't speak for recent or upcoming, but when I was a kid larger bands would come through. Metallica, Kiss, Megadeth & Pantera (I went to those last two) etc. Basically, large bands with good pull. Although, Jewel was going to play once when she was huge but canceled because not enough tickets were sold (Kiss played that night/venue instead ⚡)
I was just guessing ... I'm from northern Ontario in Canada ... I live near Sudbury and whenever there are major concerts, it's always Toronto, which is about four hours from here ... and that's just the distance travellilng to get there, you basically have to set aside two days to attend a concert because if its a major event, thousands of people are doing the same and there will be no hotels, no parking, no taxis, no transport and everything will be expensive ... and even if you've paid for everything, expect hours to get to the venue and hours to leave because of all the traffic.
Ugh, yeah that's awful. I meant "this hurts" as my frustration at lack of bands playing there!
Yo what about Banff
Could we chop off the top half of Australia please.
I live there and artists go on Australian tours and don't even come to the Northern Territory.
Why are we even coloured in? World tour means Canada, UK, Germany, maybe France or Netherlands.
We are usually a down under tour with Sydney, maybe Melbourne, and Brisbane if they are kind. Poor NZ though.
As someone who has paid out the arse for flights from Wellington to Melbourne to attend an (also expensive) concert, I appreciate the empathy.
The travel isn't the end of the world (it's only a 3 hour and change flight), but of course the prices go way, way up around the dates of major events.
"Canada" means two nights in Toronto and then right back down to the States.
Could probably change Australia to 3 red circles for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
Tupperware please, they have the most storage
Then you also have Metallica who played Antarctica.
They have a song called "trapped under ice" and of course they decided to NOT play it on their tour in fucking antartica
Smaller metal bands don't often have the means to tour off the beaten path. Just the logistics of organising tours in e.g. South America or Africa are likely prohibitively expensive.
Some bigger rock and metal bands have actually been pretty good in touring places that aren't just the standard tour countries.
Smaller bands? Fucking Mastodon are losing money when they go on an international tour nowadays... Times are fucking hard for anyone who isn't a superstar, support the bands you like in any way you can!
Rage Against The Machine went to play for guerillas in the jungle once, does that count?
You forgot the part where the US is only CA and NY.
And Canada is just Toronto
Or in some cases not Canada at all . But definitely not where I live .
And australia is only Sydney and Melbourne (this coming from a Perth lad)
For musical tours it's usually something more like: Seattle, LA, a big city in Texas, Minneapolis OR Chicago, Atlanta, NYC and sometimes Boston. But I take your point lol
The odd thing to me is the Minneapolis or Chicago. In pure numbers, it should be Chicago every time, but Minneapolis seems to draw a strangely outsized amount of musical acts. I think it's because MSP is a big airline hub. Or something? I honestly don't know.
Why the fuck would a global tour go to places that can't afford tickets?
You mean like Norway?
Even Norway wouldn't pay the ticket costs. You realize that taking a tour to Norway, when there's no other reasonable options for shows nearby means Norwegians would be paying a massive premium for the artist to get there right?
You realize I am Norwegian and know what people here are willing to pay for seeing less known artists go live.
Just check prices for anything live at Oslo spectrum, or DNB Arena.
Lesser known artists don't have the overhead global super stars do. Selling 50k tickets in Norway, would have to be thousands of dollars each to cover the costs because there's nowhere nearby they could travel to efficiently and perform again.
You live in a far away place surrounded by places that don't have a high level of expendable income. I live in a similarly hard to access, not wealthy place and wouldn't expect Taylor Swift or the like to be passing thru at all.
Meanwhile, tickets in Norway:
Similar prices for when Taylor Swift was here last...
Most people in Norway have a good salary, and live very comfortably. Most Norwegians can afford to go to concerts or other entertainment.
Norway is far from some Third World country, that apparently seem to be what some people think.
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What? Like airplanes don't exist? Or idk this thing called cars?
Travelling in, to or from Norway is far from difficult or expensive
6-hour drive, Oslo - Stockholm
6-hour drive, Oslo - Copenhagen
What's Taylor's tickets going for now? I've never considered Norway anything other than a very wealthy country. That's not really the issue it hand here though. The issue is that it's very remote and traveling there is very expensive which would need to be factored into ticket prices which are already very high on these tours that we're seeing. That you think these concerts easily pack up onto a plane or a freaking car just shows you have no idea the scale of performance that you're talking about. Jason Derulo does not have near the stage setup that someone like Taylor Swift would have. That's just an indisputable fact.
Also, and serious question.....if these artists thought they could make money do you think they intentionally skip your country? These are now billion dollar events. They have actuaries that tell them where they can maximize their profits. They can't make their money in Norway so they don't go. Just like they can't make their money in Regina Saskatchewan so they don't go.
Yeah let me go to Ukraine real quick 💀
I hear they have some killer pyrotechnics.
New Zealand, South Africa, and Scandinavia shouldn't be too difficult, right?
You wouldn't believe the bribes it takes for the Queen of Denmark to allow rock concerts. She's an incorrigible smoker.
The absence of Scandinavia checks out. Generous of them to leave Poland in, though.
Møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti.
I’m guessing that the expected ticket sales don’t justify the additional expense of getting there, or if the tour schedule is busy, there are more profitable places to visit. Just the other week, a Stockholm concert for a US artist touring Europe was cancelled because of too low ticket sales, so I’m guessing margins are tight.
Who cancelled?
Jimmy Whispers
Low population density, less potential customers
As a resident of Ohio, that might as well be a grey spot too.
I do alright. I live pretty much smack dab between Detroit, Cleveland, and Columbus so an artist is likely to hit at least one of those. The hour and a half drive before and after a show sucks, but even Chicago and Pittsburgh are close enough for a weekend trip for a show.
Hey now! Sweden is a hotspot for great metal concerts!
it is these days you couldn't say that back in the 70s and '80s much from what I understand
Please for the love of God tell me there is a genre called troll rock
"I'm going to the places where people can afford to see somebody who goes on a world tour."
Unless you’re Horse the Band, which did their best to hit up every country on their world tour.
Really? Well I managed to miss this one :'(
Come to Brazil
Really makes me wonder why they don't come here more considering shows always sellout. Maybe it's the exchange rate
If it ain't a metal band, good luck with that
I've seen World tours with stops only in the US and UK
The other parts aren't worth visiting
Pretty sure getting caught singing Pull Me Under is seen as attempting to defect to the south and met with execution.
Fuck Portugal I guess.
The average American is unaware of Portugals existence
X --> Doubt
I am above average, but I don't know what you're talking about.
Ask your aunt, boss, and dentist to point it out on a map and let's see the failure rate
I went to SonicBlast this summer, it was awesome! And Brutus came to Porto twice in, like, 3 months so it's not all bad :)
The map of asian groups "international" tours is also funny.
Korea, Japan, and maaaayyyyyee Hawaii if they're adventurous
How is it? Australia, Japan and Hong Kong?
Example of Le Sserafims international tour
Source
Assuming that guy is American, he is roughly 13 foreign countries over the US average.
(1st) World Tour!
That would be around the world so it’s fine
Fair enough tbh. Most counties are fucked up.
I mean, do you expect them to go to every country in the world?
How about the baseball world series?
If it goes around the world in terms of route then it counts.
Maybe it's their first one?
Here's a mindblower: OP didn't create this map. It's just a map of something unrelated entirely.
Why is the bottom half of Chile colored?
Compression.
Cut out most of California, since they tend to figure if they go LA, it’s good enough
A lot of artists don't have the bandwidth to go to every single country. So they have to choose.
Come on...
A lot of artists come to Switzerland and Slovenia...
Portugal cyka blat
Always the same map
No Brazil? Are they even a band?
Hardly. Whenever they come, it's always a huge event
Ah yes I remember 1942 when the Germans occupied Australia until 1945