Spyke
lemmy.world

The amount of dark subreddits is wild. I'm pessimistic that this will create any meaningful change on the platform, but really hoping either way that alternatives not backed by corporations will grow and compete.

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Rezexreply
lemmy.world

If nothing else its forced people to consider the need for an alternative and to open their eyes to places like Tilde/Lemmy/Kbin/etc. It may not be much now, but over time if reddit continues it's shitty behaviour and people now know these alternatives exist, more and more people can move over.

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jcgreply
lemmy.world

What's Tilde? Tried looking it up but all that comes up is a software firm and a translator app.

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lemmy.world

Tilde is a Reddit wannabe. It's the same kind of centralized, monolithic site that Reddit is, but its management hasn't gone full asshole (yet.)

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hydrareply
lemmy.world

Then it's useless. We need Fediverse alternatives not to keep jumping between proprietary monoliths that will be enshittified once people are lured in

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That is why having several instances is useful, if we dont like one we can change to another one

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It's at least something... If the userbase and Mods protests against the platform practice it must be a very frustrating thing.

Reddit's CEO seems to be hardcore about it, still. Little Musk as I call him ;P

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Agreed, it’s unlikely that anything will change with the current management. Just sucks in general

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in general I would assume any subs not participating are run by mods who value their mod status more than the quality of their community

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Because the only people left there are the ones that forgot it was a joke.

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undefined> The amount of dark subreddits is wild. I’m pessimistic that this will create any meaningful change on the platform, but really hoping either way that alternatives not backed by corporations will grow and compete.

yeah looks like it is

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Clilerreply
lemmy.one

But that comes from a joke from a Witcher 1 review. How can you compare one with the other?

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lemmy.world

I guess I'm out of the loop. When I hear master race I think of white supremacy, not a Witcher 1 review

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Because "master race" is a broadly known term, compared to a niche video game review. As I stated I am out of the loop having not seen this Witcher 1 review.

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hakbox.social

Just wanted to say that's a very nice and clean looking page.

Seeing some subreddits go private as a pop-up in the bottom right while on the site gave me a weird sense of apprehension...

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lemmy.world

Reminds me of the scene in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, where people are watching their galaxies go "foom".

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Slashzeroreply
hakbox.social

I enabled the sound notification, since I'm wearing headphones, and that made it even more eerie.

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lemmy.world

Wow, you can't even login to reddit to check what subs are black now. Must be getting hammered to death...

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Aetinareply
lemmy.world

Unexpected attack on reddit? Hopefully it just makes the admins more butthurt that their userbase rejects their choices, but also, hopefully the subs that did stay open (to help people, like r ukraine or self help subs) aren't interrupted too much...

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feddit.de

I can open r/ukraine on RIF. 3rd party apps still work.

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maniajackreply
lemmy.world

Most will shut down on June 30 when reddit is overcharging to use the api, essentially to force them out and make you use their app with tracking and advertising.

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Yeah, that's why I'm here. Ironic that the current status is that the site is down but 3rd party apps work..

Site seems to be back up now.

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Sprawlreply
lemmy.world

Don’t even want to login to give them a hit.

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spez probably got butthurt at the blackout and decided to blackout everything instead.

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lemmy.world

So are subreddits still planning to stay shut for only 2 days or are we extending that? Because 2 days does not seem enough for this.

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0485reply
lemmy.world

A lot of subreddits will stay closed indefinitely.

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lemmy.world

A possible problem is that they would be forced to find new volunteers to run them. While I bet there's many who want to be "gods" I bet it's harder to find people who can do it well enough to run a 10+ million forum. Especially hamstringed by reddits lack of modtools.

So sure, Reddit can remove the mods and do it multiple times but it will continuously lead to a worse experience and sooner or later an unacceptable amount of spam, hate and CP will cause the advertisers to pull their ads.

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tajreply
lemmy.world

This is absolutely true. There are often calls for 'anyone want to mod' on even smaller subs... and you know, it sounds fun to a lot of folks at first. But if you've ever actualy been a mod, even of a smaller community online? It loses its appeal very quickly.

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wbgraphicreply
lemmy.world

Real-world equivalent: “You should run for HOA President!”

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Or, union president. Or pto president. Or fucking president of anything else that's volunteer run. Just. No. Some things aren't worth it.

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I’ve seen plenty of communities where it’s clear that the mods only stop by from time to time and they get by just fine, spam and malicious posts will still be a small minority. Some set automod on a shoot first, ask questions later setting where all reported comments get deleted until the mod restores them.

I really don’t think finding new moderation will be an issue. As much as it would be nice for Reddit to be screwed over by the mods it’s going to be a non-issue for them, there’s already measures in place to prevent subreddit parking and plenty of willing volunteers.

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Doggylifereply
lemmy.world

I was thinking the same thing. Probably why the timeline is so fast too with only giving people a month's notice of the API costs. And could also be true of twitter.

ChatGPT and other LLMs are gaining a lot of value from information freely available online and sites with large user generated text submissions like Reddit/twitter want a piece of the pie.

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ewereply
lemmy.world

The problem with this line of thinking is "why is 3rd party API data any less valuable than 1st party API data for AI training?" While this may be true, I don't see this particular move being motivated by AI. They still have all the API calls and interactions even if they aren't being made by Reddit's own apps.

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I may be wrong here, but what I mean is they have ways to stop LLM companies from web scraping all of Reddit. The only other way the likes of chatGPT can get all the info is through to API which is currently free. So I think Reddit might be doing is saying this information isn't free so pay X amount for access to our data.

Obviously 3rd party apps like Apollo won't pay that, but Google and OpenAi probably will.

I'm not too sure what you mean by api data being worth less or more, it's all the same data.

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lemmy.world

Sadly, I think you're right. And with the wild number of bootlickers out there, they'll be able to find new mods for those subs in a matter of minutes.

Edit: which will be hilarious since all the good mod tools are 3rd party 😂😂😂

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these subs will turn into dumpsters due to lack of moderation and people hopefully will leave

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Rickreply
lemmy.world

That sends even more of a bad message to the users and I would expect even more people to leave due to all the fuckery going on.

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I think at least some are waiting to see how reddit responds but I'm guessing they will continue to ignore the community and carry on with their bullshit

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lemmy.world

Two major subs called /r/technology and /r/programming just went dark. This seems to have reached great levels now considering that CEO /u/spez himself is a senior mod on /r/programming sub.

At this point, I think the most visited and interesting subs are already down on reddit, love to hear any exceptions which are still up and running.

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rbitsreply
lemmy.fmhy.ml

AskReddit is still up, despite the number of posts I've seen on the subreddit asking for it to join.

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pyerireply
lemmy.world

Also /r/technology and /r/programming went dark only after lot's of pressure from all sides and other subs.

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Surprised r/programming went dark, considering its got multiple admins moderating it. I didn't think they would, and they didn't mention anything before I left

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i think the mods made a post and said they want to stay ‘neutral’.

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lemmy.world

Congrats to...checks notes.../r/earfetish for being the 1000th to go dark lol

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TeaHandsreply
lemmy.world

I have learned about so many subreddits that I really wish I hadn't, today 😅

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As a longtime subscriber to r/wowthissubexists, nothing surprises me anymore. There's a Lemmy equivalent to that, apparently. I'd link it, but I'm so green here I'd probably foul that up. Worth a search at browse.feddit.de though. That was one way to occasionally discover unique communities I never would have thought to look for. Hopefully it takes off here too.

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I just checked all and popular, the top posts are all about the blackout. It did feel a bit empty, which is good.

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b0b89reply
midwest.social

I have multiple reddit accounts and on one my front page was literally blank so it depends on what subs you look at

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Mine isn't empty, but it's very different from normal. Still lots of stuff with lots of upvotes, but it's just so off. If I didn't know about the blackout stuff, I would've noticed something was up still.

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lemmy.world

IDK, seems quite dessert in my end. From my subscriptions most are gone (except vim, vulkan, accidentalgimbli and some very small ones, shame on them) and the front page (edit: r/popular) looks very empty too, with very little posts (many of them from "not too nice" communities anyway, like there was an attempt, publicfreakout and such, which is kind of on brand)

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lemmy.world

hmmm... are we checking the same page r/popular? normally there is a new post every X minutes and now in the main page there are several >8h posts... I think is definitely noticeable and obvious (not to mention the three posts with information about the protest on very popular subreddits)

maybe you were expecting an empty page? that will never happen, if that would happen reddit admins would reopen subs or even upload random memes to new subs to make it "not empty"

or maybe reddit has local content and we are seeing different r/popular, I'm in Europe

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lemmy.world

to be fair, when I say minutes I meant that I used to check out r/popular several times a day, not every minute, so 30 mins is perfectly possible. Normally I used to see "new content" every time, and quite a few posts, today doesn't seem to "move" that much, although I haven't make a very thorough study, I just woke up 1h ago and checked twice after reading your comments.

Also, most of it is super old (>8h) and the content is quite different, normally there are a lot of "everything" ("good" and "bad"), but today seems like everything is in the "negative" side (AITA, wcgw, dankmemes...) and some other subs that I have never seen. (quoting here since good and bad is very subjective)

But we may have different perceptions and that is fine.

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same posts and popular stuff

I don't know if you've noticed, but all the top post from today and yesterday are reposts of previous top posts. More so than usual. I might have tightened my tinfoil a bit too much, but it think the Reddit staff is busy posting popular posts to make it appear alive to oblivious and new users.

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lemmy.world

8 years, 11 months.

I'm going dark in solidarity. 100 minutes to go in my time zone.

Goodbye, u/mutisi0n. Goodbye, Reddit. It's been real.

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almost 13 years for me, which is kind of wild to say out loud.

going out in a blaze of mediocrity is pretty on brand, given how the site has been dying a slow, bloated death the last few years

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0485reply
lemmy.world

You’ll be ok! It’s time to move on!

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Indeed, I almost lost 9 full years, lol. That's alright, though. I really like Lemmy and I see that other like-minded folks are migrating as well. Please forgive our traffic! We hope to integrate smoothly

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RealBlstrreply
lemmy.world

I've read about selling the account, does anyone have more information? My account is 14 years old, it might be worth something.

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

How much Karma? Older accounts seem to sell for more on Ebay. It might take longer though. Search "Reddit" on ebay and you will see some listings. If you go to completed and then sold, you can see some accounts that recently sold. There was an 11 year account I was looking at the other day that sold for $70

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Deleted my icon from my homepage for sync on Saturday evening. Have had the odd craving but have managed to fill time with stuff I've been slacking on.

So thank you reddit for your money grabbing move.

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lemmy.world

I'm one of the new Lemmy users, fleeing from the sinking ship that is Reddit. Hi everyone!

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Liar™️reply
lemmy.ml

Hey I just joined too. Goodbye reddit. No baconreader no reddit for me

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lemmy.world

It has actually blown my mind how many people got behind this movement. Overall the change was not something that would have ruined Reddit for most, but it was enough of a middle finger of the community that we all got riled up for it. I am proud to be a part of this movement!

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It might not be affecting the general population of reddit, but I'd hazard to guess that it is affecting the moderators significantly. You only need to piss off the moderators enough for them to take their sub(s) private.

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lemmy.world

Seems like Reddit is completely down now. Frontpage hasn't loaded for 15 or 20 minutes.

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sh.itjust.works

That probably won't last given Spez's bullshit, but I gotta say, Lemmy is looking pretty promising. The Jeroba mobile app is a little underwhelming though, voting and replying to comments is a hassle. Maybe the RIF dev will make a Lemmy app or help improve Jeroba.

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lemmy.world

there was talks of the reddit infinity app possibly incorporating lemmy into itself

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0U714Wreply
slrpnk.net

How is it a hassle? It seems perfect-enough to me.

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sh.itjust.works

At least on Android, I can't respond to or vote on responses that show up in my inbox. Clicking on the message itself does nothing instead of taking me to the message. The UI definitely needs improvements in usability but it's still very much in development as far as I could tell.

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lemmy.world

I think it's having trouble keeping up with the rush of users. I'll admit though it's pretty frustrating that my upvotes don't register. I get "timeout" after a few seconds.

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Yeah it's really slow right now. Like you, I assume it's because of an influx of new people but took me like a minute to just log in. Hopefully it's not as bad once the rush of people starts settling

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sh.itjust.works

I only seem to be having that problem with Jeroba. In the browser it seems to work fine with the lemmies I've tried

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At first it was both, couldn't upvote on the browser or Jerboa. Since this afternoon though I haven't been getting a timeout error on Jerboa.

Edit: nevermind it's happening again. Maybe it's happening due to server load?

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0U714Wreply
slrpnk.net

Oh! I just figured that out -- try tapping-and-holding for a second. Some menu options should come up then.

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sh.itjust.works

Thanks I'll give that a try. Upvote/downvote/reply should all just appear by default though IMO

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I personally like the clean presentation, but I would definitely be happy compromising with it being a setting we can choose, and defaulting to it being visible - sitewide, not just in the inbox.

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Miner's android, I am using jerboa, and they are appearing automatically for me.

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13rosesreply
feddit.de

Yep. You can get it on FDroid package manager or the Google Play Store.

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NebLemreply
lemmy.world

RIF's dev is busy helping Tildes, but I'm sure with Rexxit many more experienced app devs will submit more PRs and write their own solutions.

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So is the Boost app. Quick look at Reddit a lot of the usual players on r/All

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Shit is collapsing. I hope the Reddit Board are enjoying a huge bowl of ‘Found Out’.

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lemmy.world

Nice seeing so many of those that I visit often are dark. Before the blackout, there was talk of if they should go permanently. But, those discussions will happen after things go back. With Spez being a dipshit about it still, I'm thinking several of them will leave Reddit forever. I'm good with it.

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rjdreply
lemmy.nz

I've taken my subs down for the couple of days as a starting point. Not sure I plan to bring them back up until there is change but we'll see what happens

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Holy shit over 2.5 billion combined subscribers. I've also been seeing quite a few people deleting their accounts, myself included.

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It's kind of a useless stat considering the amount of overlap.

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Same here, I'm planning to delete my account on 06-30 and append a message to all my comments why I did so.

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lemmy.world

There's also a Twitch stream linked at the top of the page. Join us in sitting around, watching, and chatting as the proverbial shit hits the fan!

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Menachemreply
midwest.social

if the site won't load for you, the link is twitch.tv/reddark_247

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lemmy.world

Fascinating watching that, I'm learning about all sorts of subs I never even knew existed!

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I'd guess those subs have a relatively high percentage of mobile users, for... reasons.

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lemmy.world

This has really opened my eyes to just how many niche porn subs there are.....maybe too many?

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rustyspoonreply
beehaw.org

I've already seen a megathread on Lemmy linking to porn communities. It's inevitable

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lemmy.ml

Weirdly enough, the website gone dark on me so now I can't see Reddit subs go dark.

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It loaded on the fourth try but didn’t have much data but a refresh sent me back to the Cloudflare error page.

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vodnikreply
lemmy.world

It had too many visitors. There’s like 3k people watching this on twitch right now.

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They're still public but they've locked down new posting to mod announcements only, which is kind of confusing but at least it's something.

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Cmmndrknreply
lemmy.world

As a long time member of r/Australia, it is very on point for them to not join the blackout.

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lemmy.world

I feel like each time a sub goes private there should be a custom final message or something. Like a last post saying "Goodnight and good luck" 😅

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Is the website using the API to fetch it's data? That would be hilarious.

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lemmy.world

OP can you pin the livestream?

twitch.tv/reddark_247

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lemmy.world

If most of the subreddits go private, will there be only ads shown on the main web page?

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kinda wild to see the variety of communities that are a part of the blackout. and the sheer amount of porn subreddits there are. jesus.

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lemmy.world

Holy shit, it went mental there (1am UK time) suddenly about a hundred subs (I think) went dark one after the other!

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Yeah a whole bunch signed up for a bot to do it automagically. I was watching/laughing as I set my 3 member sub to private manually

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lemmy.world

How many subs went dark? The link is not showing that as of 1445 PDT

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The website is redirecting me to the livestream now.

Nevermind, just seen the note—it's because of too much traffic.

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lemmy.world

Every so often I see a sub going public again - any theory on what that means? Mods changing their minds? Reddit installing its own mods?

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It takes some time for Reddit to sync correctly. If they flash it means the mods changed to private!

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my guess is a bug. i just watched r/askelectricians go public, but visiting the sub there's no mention of it ever going dark in the first place

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Looks like the server’s down. Did we break it already?? It was up like half an hour ago.

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lemmy.world

Noticing that the total subreddit count is going up. Not nearly as fast as they’re going dark, but wonder how many duplicate sub’s are getting created. Or is it something more nefarious being done my the admins?

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beehaw.org

I think its broken... or crumbling from the 10s of us trying to load page .P

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dustyDatareply
lemmy.world

There's currently 4,5k people watching the twitch stream. I bet there are several times that amount of people trying to access the webpage directly. It's just being hugged to death.

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такъв протест се случи само поради американската алчност...

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