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aramis87
fedia.io

Just to clarify the headline: he went to a No Kings protest to document the government's response to the protest and was hit in the eye by an ICE projectile. This was state violence against a citizen, not protestors attacking a counter-protestor or agitator.

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tmyakal
infosec.pub

He Left Without an Eye

He actually left with an eye. The problem was that he went there with two of them.

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Gordon Calhoun
lemmy.world

Welcome to naziland. Too bad martial law and full on boot-on-neck fascism will be the only response to France-inspired protest actions if executed clumsily.

Seriously, where were these ICEfucks even raised to think what they're doing is even remotely okay? Surely the financial benefits of performing their atrocities can't be good enough compensation...where are they finding the internal motivation to voluntarily be so evil and fundamentally antiamerican? USA must be really good at raising bullies.

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NoneOfUrBusinessreply
fedia.io

where are they finding the internal motivation to voluntarily be so evil and fundamentally antiamerican?

Finding people willing to be fascist goons is never the bottleneck holding back fascism, so the answer is: The same place other fascists do.

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vorpunireply
tarte.nuage-libre.fr

You guys have guns.

French people get their saline vials (to try and rinse out CS gas) confiscated because the cops get away with it.

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SwingingTheLampreply
piefed.zip

So do the cops. Guns, and drones, and APCs, and tanks, and bombs, and weapons of mass destruction, and no hesitation about using them on citizens. They also have Flock and Palantir, so forget about organizing to take them on.

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FlyingCircusreply
lemmy.world

This is pretty doomer. There are plenty of ways to circumvent Flock and Palantir.

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SwingingTheLampreply
piefed.zip

It's synecdoche, those two names a stand-in for the surveillance-state apparatus, which is much larger. But, by all means, start organizing the armed resistance.

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Ann Archy
lemmy.world

There's a Bible passage about how to deal with this situation.

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vaultdweller013reply
sh.itjust.works

Hammurabi gave us the solution over 3 thousand years ago. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.

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Ann Archyreply
lemmy.world

Yes well people are more familiar with the Bible than with a Babylonian stele. Allegedly.

I've seen it! The real thing. I also walked through the Ishtar gates! Then I took an arrow to the knee. Because the Hittites.

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chilicheeselies
lemmy.world

I bought ballistic goggles for this reason. I'm not generally a go to a protest guy anymore (I know), but I wanted to be prepared for when the time comes.

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Culminate
lemmy.ca

Is there a lawsuit? I'm not in America, but taking a protester's eyes sounds illegal.

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chaogomureply
lemmy.world

Let me introduce you to 42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

Seems pretty reasonable, it's a law that was passed just after the civil war, meant to give recently freed slaves the ability to sue over the continued efforts of the southern racists to maintain white nationalism.

Sadly this article tells you the current state of the law.

https://www.techdirt.com/2018/09/05/appeals-court-judge-qualified-immunity-is-rigged-game-government-almost-always-wins/

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Radical_Socialist_t00treply
lemmy.ca

It would if there was a judicial system the went both ways. That's not the case. Unless you're already rich or in power you're not gonna make it.

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