Home server
Built when Netflix first took away password sharing. Thanks for the heads up Netflix! Would not want to start this project now π
Edit: adding temp and specs
I9 11900k Z590I Vision D ITX mobo 64gb memory The 16x lane is bifurcated to run: Intel a310 & Lsi 9305 16e into a hp dl380
Drives are 10x 14 tb wdd in raidz1, 6 256gb sata ssds in a pair of 3 wide mirrors for special vdev metadata, a 512gb nvme for read cache, and a 64gb optane for slog
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How are the temps?
*hella
Yeah, seems a second fan would help with air flow into/out of the case. Depending on how air tight everything is when it's closed.
There are actuality two fans. There's an intake on the bottom full cold air, and the top is exhaust. I posted temps if you wanna see how it is at full tilt
Makes sense, looks like a good build then.
Thanks! Has been alot of fun playing with
Added them in another comment, but I'll put them here to. This is while I have plex and frigate running with tdarr rencoding 8 files into av1 at a time
If it's just a media server that spends 99.5% of its life idling, temps might not actually be that bad.
But enclosed in a box without much airflow and those temps are going to creep up over time. And take even longer to cool down. Hopefully thereβs fans in the bottom or side. Because one exhaust is not great for even just the heat from those hard drives.
I think the best way to handle airflow out is to have a turn or two on the intake/exhausts for the noise to get trapped. I personally just put mine in my basement though. That limits the sound pretty well.
I personally built a server house a couple hundred feet away from my mansion.
I'd also put mine in the basement, but I live in a flat.
All of those hard drives will produce quite a bit of heat just sitting idle.
They wonβt really produce any heat if they sleep properly. Also that should help them last quite a bit longer.
They usually do transcoding when you watch a movie or so. Depending on hardware that may heat it up a bit. I guess if it would have heating problems then OP would have resolved that already though.
Yes
I don't get this setup. First you install a lot of sound proofing, then you install one fan that has to run near light speed to keep that computer cool.
I very much agree with you - I would use more fans on the outside enclosure, possibly behind more barriers so the sound is never direct (it has to bounce off walls before getting out). Eg a vent cover on the outside or simply vents mounted inside the case (not directly on the outside hole).
(Possibly also keeping the positive pressure inside the enclosure for dust control.)
However there might be an argument about HDD noise that is fairly particular to the drive models.
Maybe op just doesn't like noisy HDDs & isn't that bothered by fans (I centrally am more bothered by enterprise HDD noise than the noise of quality fans), so the solution is HDD-noise oriented (and I think it works in that regard).
(And yes, I do pick my HDDs by noise too.)
I think even just installing an intake would do wonders for this setup. A hole cut with a filter would be good, an additional fan directing air at the bottom would be even better. I'm assuming this PC case has some kind of intake / exhaust. Right now it's prob just recirculating its own air. That single fan on the prob isn't doing that much.
The intake is probably in the bottom.
This guy got it! Love you man
Yea exactly I mean for the outer case prob needs its own intake
I hate the sound of Disk Drives spinning up and clicking
If you can hear it, it's most likely working. Or at least that's what I've convinced myself after listening to them spinning up for the past 15 years.
They remind me of a coffee machine
We just have the file server in another room and use a mini itx pc slaved to the tv as a player with a bequiet psu
I have an intake on the bottom pulling cold air, and the top is for exhaust. Both are 3000 rpm fans and together keep the tennis real low. I added the current tennis in a comment while it's running full tilt
Are the fans quiet too?
They are! I also have a small sheet of foam on the wall behind the cabinet too to catch any sound leaking out, so all I get is a small hum
See if you can find a Monsterlabo case. They went out of business, but their fanless cases are all heatsink so zero noise.
I picked up the itx model and overspecd the power supply so that the power supply fan never turns on either.
That's crazy! That would be such a fun system to play with for a silent transcoding setup. Thanks for sharing π
The only negative is with the case installed, you don't know if it is powering on when you hit the button, because there is no fan noise or HDD noise (I used SSDs). So you have to peek in the top vent to see if mobo lights flicker. π
Is there high tennis?
Lol. I mistyped tennis so many times π
Excellent heat retention! Doubles as a stove top
There's actually two fans built into the cabinet! Pulls more fresh air then if it were outside of it. πβοΈ
For those worried about temps. The cpu never goes past the 80s when being ran hard, and drive temps are comfortably in the 40s
Oh, and if anyone is curious on specs. This is my old gaming rig but it's: I9 11900k Z590I Vision D ITX mobo 64gb memory The 16x lane is bifurcated to run: Intel a310 & Lsi 9305 16e into a hp dl380
You left in your IP no0b! Now I'm gonna pwn your server with my super hacker skillz xoxoxoxo
P.S. That's is one hell of a setup! I am surprised how well ventilated it is
I just sent a ddos attack to his ip. In an unrelated event my doorbell camera has stopped working?
Means you got the wrong ip...the correct one is 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 sweet 127.0.0.1
A little bit of airflow can make a huge difference. If it works it works. I think the doubters have just never experimented.
Bet it's quiet as fuck tho
Super quiet, and had been running non stop for over a year no with no problems π also that i9 runs super hot. When it was in my lil gaming rig it was always running up near 90. So retiring to the server had been much more gentle on it, lol
Always in 90s? Did you remember the thermal paste on reinstall? Lol
It just had a very undersized cooler at the time (pics of case are hiding here somewhere lol). It would idle normally, but load put it near throttle. Moved to the 9800x3d though in the same case and that performs like a dream
And it isn't thermally throttling? If not, that's awesome. Have you ever taken a sound meter with a spectrum analyzer and seen if there's any frequencies you can try to kill?
With the big tower cooler it now has in the server it barely touches 80c under load. As for sound, I can take a recording when I get home later this week if anyone's are still interested
The reason I bring that up, is I have a little knowledge in acoustics and just wondered if your pc was putting out more lower frequency noise than that wood is realistically able to absorb. So, not personally interested, as all projects like this are case by case (ha, no pun intended), and moreso just if you wanted to fiddle with it more, like adding a piece of slate or sheet of rubber to the exterior or something.
I'm CURIOUS what it sounds like, but I doubt a phone recording or speaker is gonna be worth much to satisfy my dirty nerdy needs.
i love the toxic kiddies on selfhost these days "its too hot the fans wrong" op explains and gets downvoted. whats the saying?, "not my circus not my monkeys". if this is the energy your going to bring to this community go back to reddit and be a toxic pos there.
I'm choosing to focus on the positive comments, and giving info to those who doubt. In the end I know there's a few people at least who saw this and got some inspiration for a fun project
You are a bigger person than I <3 what youre doing is a great solution to noise in a living space and if you have no thermal throttling its designed exactly for what its intended for. Thanks for sharing you have given me some ideas for managing my own noise issues regarding homelabbing.
I just think no one's really coming at it in a way they think it's rude, and most had been out of concern, just worded rough. I definitely can be rough with my words sometime so I can't be too mad. Also thanks for engaging β€οΈ love you and all the lurkers following along
lolz that's wayyyy too much emotional maturity for the internet. we need more of it :)
I hate hearing fans and computers and have always wanted to do a project like this, but have always been concerned about heat buildup, like anyone would be. And while it LOOKS like it would be an issue... If it works, it works.
I mean... Look at the setup, though.
Nobody is trying to be mean, it's just a pretty rough setup where thermals are concerned. And OP appears to be dismissing every joke about it and claiming it's not an issue.
Good luck, OP. Hope this is the hottest your place ever gets, in which case you might be alright. Just keep an eye on those temps since servers need to run very cool to avoid long term damage and wear and tear. Be extra cautious of your large array of HDD's. Those can get hot and people don't always think about that.
Edit: OP mentioned lower in the thread that they are pulling 300-350 watts from the wall. That is a lot of heat. Maybe they live in Alaska and keep their place at 55 degrees, though. We don't know... But for those looking on and considering their own setup, a lot of red flags are here for those who have higher temps in their homes.
I keep my place at 74, and basically have a per room heat pump to never have the temp be an issue even on a 108 day. I've been running the setup for over two years now and have monitored thermals the whole time and have never had an issue. I understand the concern, and had the same concerns at first too, but the results don't lie. It's just very well tuned for it's environment
Ever just throw a hot pocket in there for a couple minutes?
Lol, it's warm. Though thanks to the intake and exhaust built into the cabinet the temps are great. I added what they currently are while it's rencoding by library.
Not sure if stroke or just above my head.
I think "tennis" was supposed to be "temps" but got autocorrected.
This post here. I fixed it on most replies, but SwiftKey did not like me using the word temp
Looks like with the doors closed its going to be smokin.
The one fan in the left will do the trick
Plus the other fan hiding behind the system π posted temps in a comment of you eye curious
I assume that's all sound proofing. How well does it work? And like the other commenter asked, I'm curious how it affects the temperature
positively... π₯
That looks like the Fractal Define 6 case which already has built in soundproofing. I have mine on a desk doing the exact same job with even more drives and I don't even hear it from a couple feet away.
Edit: actually not a Define 6 after looking closer. Mine doesn't have those weird latches on the side panels despite otherwise looking identical.
Yeah its one of the ones that I think went off the define 6 design, I've got a Corsair case with a similar design/layout but no latches, I had to do a closer look too.
It's a really old corsair case I picked up for free. It's also packed with noctua fans π
Picked this one up for $20!
Packed with no-name fans, which I ended up pulling. My media cabinet below the TV has a PC and some other gear, so I have a temp sensor and fan controller hooked up to those no-names now right in there. Works great!
Oh sweet! It's such a great case. $20 is a bargin
The sound proofing helps a ton. This sits in my living room and I can barely hear it. There's also a second fan hiding on the bottom for intake, while the top is just exhaust. Keeps temps nice and cool
Bruh your gonna need a blower so loud it totally obliterates that sound protection.
The whole setup is really quiet actually! The cabinet has an intake fan hiding on the bottom, while the top fan is just exhaust. Then all the fans in the system are built for front to top exhaust. I posted temps while the system is running full tilt of you were curious
Had to check if this was the memes category.
Posted temps and specs if you were curious π guessing you didn't think I had more fans in the cabinet
Unless there are vents underneath, you might also want to flip that power supply around, so the fan's on top.
One exhaust on top, and an intake on bottom. Temps are great π
Yeah but I bet they could be better because your intake/exhaust do not look like they can keep up with your CPU cooler. I would install bigger fans with a higher CFM, and remove the insulating foam padding.
You'd 100% be wrong I'm sorry to say. With the way the setup is my temps are barely above what they would be outside the cabinet, with the benefit that it's basically silent (it's in my living room by necessity and I can't hear it)
OP has published his numbers and you still think you know better.
What a riot.
They didn't post anything at the time of my comment as far as I saw. Link please.
It was shortly before I replied back in a different comment π
bro built an expensive radiator that hosts movies
Thankfully all either used, or bought before the Ai drive prices
what is that "thing" on top of the desktop chassis? a wifi antenna?
not op, but yeah looks like. my old gaming tower is about to get debian installed and go on perma server duty, and the onboard wifi has an antenna like this, which may let me leave it in the garage.
Oof, do NOT run a server over WIFI. If plain old Ethernet is not an option, get something like this which, no, is not cheap but will offer a MUCH better experience.
I have a 2 story house (plus basement). I use Moca 2.5. House was built with coax to every room for cable TV. Everything that need high data use (tvs, gaming consoles, pc) gets hardwired. Everything else is on the two mesh routers.
That works too.
Just remember to put a MOCA filter on the line coming into your house from the street. Or disconnect it entirely, if youβre not using the cable connection. Otherwise youβll be sending all your Internet traffic straight out the cable line to all of your neighbors.
That is way too expensive.
I got a white, flat Ethernet cable and stuck it to the bottom of the baseboard using a very thin double-sided tape. Totally invisible and super cheap.
The cable: https://a.co/d/09GMOz5k The tape: https://a.co/d/0hhCrXHP
I mean, that's why I specified only if Ethernet was not an option.
Brother I been doing this for 30 years. One size never fits all.
And I've been doing it for over 40. WIFI may be acceptable for certain applications, but it's never the best solution.
And I'm nearby for moral support! Yay doing stuff for decades woo!
WiFi is never the best solution? Are you fucking stupid?
Well, I'm not the one planning to host a server over WIFI, so...
Perfect is the enemy of good (enough).
Wifi is just there as a backup. Everything is hardwired
The one I have that looks like that is bluetooth.
There are two fans built into the cabinet. Temps stay nice and cool
I love that you've got this explanation because my first reaction was... Hot! Too... Hot!
It was a common comment after a few hours π also looking forward to spaceballs the sequel!!
Me too! I hope they reference "the search for more money!"
Or spaceballs 3, the search for spaceballs 2
Here's mine : )
Oooo, cute mini system! I've always wanted to start a cluster with tiny towers like that
Sorry brother this makes me twitchy. Needs air.
Intake fan is hiding in the bottom behind case π of not yea it'd probably melt. I posted temps though if you're curious
OP posted his numbers and you think you know better.
Bet you're fun at parties.
Oi. I had mine in my hall closet, looks a lot like yours, including the Noctua cooler and stack of hard drives. In spite of adding a vent to the top of the closet door, and a big gap at the floor it still got too hot. I ended up moving it to the spare bedroom.
You gotta do push pull. There's another fan on the bottom of the cabinet pulling in fresh, while all the hot air is directed up and out. Temps are more stable then my gaming rig sitting 5 feet away in the open air.
What part of the world calls temperatures "tennis"? Sounds like something the Aussies would come up with
My dang autocorrect last night refused to use the word temps π caught it on most of my replies, but it slipped past a few times
Hahah. Excellent.
You used it so many times that I was sure its some weird slang word somewhere. It is now, I've tagged you as "tennis"!
I shall now my known as Sir Hamknight of Tennis πβ€οΈπΎ
Indeed good Sir!
I am guessing the egg-shell foamed enclosure is for the sound, but you probably have a bunch of sound coming from the fan port, nessisary for ventilation. You can cut a lot of the sound but maintain the airflow by cutting an s-shaped ducting spanning the width of the enclosure. The shape will drop the sound, while then ducting keeps the air flowing. I would not recommend any sorts of filters to block the sound because they are a bit too restrictive for an enclosure in your style.
I get about the same affect by placing a layer of the foam on the wall behind the fans. But you're totally right. Without that lil bit the fan noise from the intake and exhaust was a lil noticeable
Also high density mass loaded vinyl works better for your enclosure. Foam helps against reflections but they still let sound trough. Mass loaded vinyl basically adds mass to the walls of your enclosure which stops them from transferring the sound waves to the outside.
Does it help to point out this is vinyl backed foam π really thin vinyl sheet on it, but it helps
Very cool, I have a similar set up and I can advice you that it will overheat if you close that cabinet
Not if there were a second fan hiding in there π
An...interesting approach to noise-proofing your system :D
Can we see it on the outside, closed?
Not op, but went snooping. Looks like it might be on the left.
https://lemmy.world/post/20717184
That's it! Though when I was first seting up my new place π it's on my comment history so I don't think that's snooping
For anybody not doing generative AI with it and not running massive loads on it, if you're going to use an old gaming PC as a home server, at least replace the graphics card with a cheap one with no fans or use the integrated graphics on your CPU (something I believe pretty much all consumer CPUs of the last two decades have) and underclock the CPU if you don't need full processing power since even small reductions in clock speed can significantly reduce the maximum temperature.
I thought so too, but turns out not all of the CPUs have onboard graphics and the HDMI port on my motherboard was a lie. Although the graphics card does help with transcoding.
I know for sure Intel server CPUs (for example, Xeons) don't have integrated graphics and somebody else mentioned that many Ryzen CPUs don't either.
That said, I'm not sure if they need integrated graphics to have hardware decoding for certain video codecs (though it makes sense that those things come together). Personally when I was looking into buying a mini-PC to transform into a media server for my living room, I made sure to check in the CPU specs if it had both integrated graphics (as it's connected to my TV) and hardware decoding for the most recent codecs (I ended up going for a mini-PC with an N100 processor, since it has all that plus its power consumption is pretty low with a TDP of 6W so I can leave it always on as it also doubles as homeserver).
many ryzen CPUs don't have integrated graphics. I think it might have become baseline from just ryzen 6000? but plenty of very still good chips were released before that. I wouldn't trade them for an intel.
underclock and undervolt
If I'm not mistake only hobbyist level motherboards let you control the voltages and if one knows enough to get one of those they probably don't need the advice I gave.
Also it's hard to end up with a non-working or unstable configuration with underclocking, whilst it's pretty easy to do so with undervoltage.
That said, for those who know what they're doing, your suggestion definitely delivers lowers temperatures than underclocking alone though at the risk of a less stable system (which can be ameliorated with proper stress testing).
I posted specs and temps if you were curious π
The CPU usage looks high, mines usually around 3% per core. π€
What app are you using to see that chart, looks like mobile?
Yea it's mobile. Away from home for a bit π
What app though?
Oh! Just the stock webpage
Oh duh, I see the IP
It's in the middle of rencoding my library, should finish at some point and return to low usage
That makes sense then. Thought it was avg usage
I want to point out that for a media server, OP's GPU is excellent.
Sparkle ARC cards are the way to go for sure. The fans are a pain in the ass on Linux, though. They like to start and stop a lot.
I actually have a Mini-PC with an N100 CPU and no dedicated GPU as media server and it uses very little CPU (less than 20%) whilst playing 1080p video even with a torrent server over a wireguard VPN running on the background.
You don't really need much CPU or GPU for playing or streaming videos from compress video files as long as you have hardware decoding on either processing unit (just make sure it implements all the way up to the AV1 coded).
You only need lots of CPU or GPU power if the codec you're decoding from or encoding to is not implemented in hardware since in that case it will use software decoding or encoding so it's down to raw CPU or GPU power.
In fact if all you want is a media server that solution I have is probably one of the best ones, mainly because it uses very little power (tops at 25W, usually much less) and runs silent, which is why I can have it in my living room using it as a media player connected to my TV, and with a wireless remote people can't really tell it's a PC since it just looks and works like a store bought media player rather than one I put together myself.
However that option means buying new stuff, and I can see the value in using old hardware if you have it around, plus the old hardware will still likely be more powerful so you can also use it for more demanding stuff or just more stuff at the same time, which is why I didn't suggest it and instead just suggested some tweaks to make that old hardware consume less and make less noise.
thanks for sharing, nicely done, would love a video or dB reading. noise wise, my rack doesn't get too bad running mini-itx boards and quadro p2200s; my gaming rig, on the other hand, could benefit from this. SFF case with a deshrouded rx 6650 xt and 80mm server fans from arctic (max 8000rpm). it sounds like a jet engine spinning up when i play anything, despite the 3000rpm limit i put in fan control.
aside, would you mind sharing your av1 settings? i currently pass everything through ffmpeg to mkv in an attempt to save space with my plex library
Here's my tdarr flow. I have redundent paths to handle if qsv fails and to retry in software if you're curious of why it splits
Also, here's my lil gaming rig too. Runs warm, but it's tiny.
It's a 9800x3d paired with a 6800xt
thanks for sharing, i was hoping for more specifics to experiment with; i have a powershell script i'm running that does the same thing:
cool gaming rig, too! you also know the SFF pains π€£π
Tdarr is a pretty fun automation tool if you Wana try. Basically I down scale to 1080p if it's higher, then I rencode to av1 at 8mbps or lower depending on current bitrate. I also keep all audio and subtitle streams how they were
I just built a new rig and was soooo close to going mITX, but I just didn't want to deal with the cramped build space. And the selection of MoBo's was abysmal compared to ATX and mATX.
I still always get a bit jelly when I see people do it, as they are clean AF. Good on you!
And as others have said: you're taking the criticism on the chin like a champ. It's fun to experiment with weird things and you found something that works for you. That's all that matters.
Enjoy the weekend!
Cramped? The smaller side is the length of the whole mini-ITX board. They are bigger than they look. Bit over 22cm i think?
That said, this case is also a option for my TV-console build. Luckily, i've bought most of the hardware before the LLMocalypse.
It's alot of fun. NSFW makes some really easy to build in ITX cases if you ever want to dabble. My req though is too put a baffle made of stuff foam to force cool air in for the gpu. I'll post a Pic of my main setup when I get home later this week if you want
Neat, an Intel GPU.
Thanks! For plex and frigate it's been awesome. Also running tdarr to rencode everything to Av1 at 8mbs or less
Yeah man, that's the perfect choice. I use a very similar card myself. They outperform gaming GPU's for this purpose!
Seems cozy
Still rocking my fractal R3 nothing beats it for disk space and sound proofing
Damn, you have enough HDDs to host the whole netflix there.
Theres currently 110 tb of usable space. Got a bunch of 14tb drives when you could shuck them for 150 each
Good lord, 114!
And here I thought I was doing something at 10-20 TB.
You go!
To be honest, I have more media then I'll ever need, and after rencoding everything it shouldn't use even half the space. The a310 is the real goat here for saving space
Oh man, treat those drives well. The last 18TB drive I bought a few years back went up $500 in price!
They basically just sit and spin with all reads going to a cache nvme drive π should live as long as possible
Raid z1 with 10 14tb disks? That's a bold move cotton, let's see how it plays out.
Yea, I definitely would have gone z2, but this all started with the drives, and slowly expanded into this monster. But so far it's been running smooth. The drives were added at different times to so they shouldn't fail at the same time (hopefully π)
Haha fair enough. Fixing it after the fact basically requires a second server of equal or greater storage. I fear a rebuild on my 16tb disks.
Hey, I've been upgrading the same freenas (now trunas) for 15 years. I need 40tb of space to redo the raid lmao. It's striped and mirrored, so I'm losing 18tb. It is what it is for now, works great for my files and Plex.
What OS are you running?
I'm currently running truenas on it. Simple and free
Are the spinning disks for Linux ISOs? If so, why raidz1 instead if snapraid?
Was just what I was experimenting with when I built it a few years ago. Never gave may issues so I've just stayed with it. Would be nice to be able to mismatch my drive size though
Makes sense. Might as well wait for the zfs anyraid coming out βsoonβ
Two of the drives are 18tb I got cheap π so maybe in a decade I'll get that 8tb of space
I gotta look into this sometime. I'm still doing Z mirrors of 4TB drives. I was lucky to score those.
I have a bunch of 500GB / 1TBs just sitting there though that would need power and a SATA extension, maybe to put non-critical stuff on...
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What's your electric bill look like each month?
Surprisingly the server is pretty good on pretty usage. It pulls about 300-350w from the wall, so probably about $50 a month. For being my security system and media server is pretty cost effective
WHOA, that is a lot of energy. What CPU are you using? That thing must run HOT.
I've got a new setup (runs what you're running and a few others) that takes in 60 watts. I live in SoCal, though, so our rates are insane. For me 350 watts would run me $125 a month. It's so bad here...
I9 11900k and about 18 spereate sata drives. The lil amounts add up π