Warner/Chappell Sinks Lindsay Ellis’ Two-Hour Cruise Video Over A Few Seconds Of Karaoke
Yeah. In the middle of a two-plus hour video about cruise lines, there’s a clip — just a few seconds long — of a friend who joined Ellis on one of the trips singing karaoke. And that caused the entire video to come down while the “dispute” was adjudicated.
And, as Ellis notes, YouTube by default sides with the copyright holder, because the nature of copyright law is that it very, very, very strongly encourages intermediaries to side with the copyright claimant, even if that claim is obvious bullshit and clearly fair use (as is the case here). YouTube’s ContentID system is basically built with that in mind. Even as YouTube spent years fighting back against copyright maximalism and winning the massive DMCA case Viacom filed against it, in the end, to keep the big copyright holders happy, ContentID is really designed to strongly favor copyright claimants, even when their claims are bullshit.
The culprit in this case? Apparently our old friends at Warner/Chappell, which, let’s just say, have a history of this sort of absolute bullshit.
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On Bluesky, Ellis points out that this wasn’t an automated takedown.
https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/05/warner-chappell-sinks-lindsay-ellis-two-hour-cruise-video-over-a-few-seconds-of-karaoke/Open linkView original on lemmy.ca
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https://nebula.tv/videos/lindsayellis-i-tested-every-cruise-line-to-find-the-least-evil/ Still up on Nebula for those who have it.
My Nebula subscription is totally worth it, every year I get more from that subscription than almost any other.
Me too I'm very happy with it
I didn't even know she still had a YouTube presence. I've been following her on Nebula for ages.
She calls out somewhere in the video that she's giving YouTube done attention with this one, I watched it but at 2 hours on something not important it was second monitor content lol
I saw it before the takedown and it was worth watching. I think cruise ships are neat, but the thought of going on a cruise sounds a bit like my personal hell.
I'm glad I spend an unreasonable time watching cruise ship reviews due to the giant boat part of whatever mental illness I have and got the suggestion.
I kind of feel like her and a few of the guests have a sort of similar pov as me. She brought up a lot of the environmental and social impacts and the staff conditions and money flow, so that was very interesting to see.
Unless you love getting absolutely sloshed or are a swinger (a topic I was surprised she didn't cover) it's pretty crap
I've been on 3 cruises and I like them. Not much of a drinker myself. The live entertainment usually very good, as is the food. Its fun to wake up and be in a different country. I wouldn't recommend them if you are claustrophobic or germophobic though, because you will probably run into some Germans on a European cruise.
I would go on more but they are an environmental disaster and I cant justify it.
I watched a few days ago. All it did for me was solidify the fact that I never want to take a cruise.
It's basically an all inclusive resort (with up charges around every corner) but worse and also it's terrible for the environment.
this is why god made the stockholm-helsinki ferry, all the "ooooooooo big boat" of a cruise ship but without the "my husband died and they put his body in the restaurant freezer"
This is a great video. The Cruise industry has been a bit of a mystery to me. In between the genuine review of the different cruises you get a bit more of a sense of how the industry fits in capitalism and colonialism.
I had basically zero desire to go on a cruise before watching, but it was the nail in the coffin.
Publish it to the fediverse. Good luck with their stupid take-downs.
I love how shit on the fediverse bounces around like crazy from server to server all over the world with messages being duplicated by different communities to make the protocol work.
Here is one of the vanishing few places in the digital realm beyond video games that see messy interweaving and interconnection between people internationally towards more and more wholistic communities as a form of strength against fascism rather than weakness.
In one sense the Fediverse is far easier to obliterate than other online communities given how little money and traditional resources the Fediverse has to defend itself vs. how globally exposed it is, but in another it would be the most massive headache in the world to try to quietly and carefully censor voices on the Fediverse given the constant beehive activity interacting across disparate communities located in different countries with different laws and different motivations and key actors.
I am very passionate about correcting the misinformation and disinformation around this, I wholeheartedly believe the more vulnerable we are in sharing ourselves through digital identities in larger and more interconnected communities the less power authoritarian forces have over us.
It may seem counterintuitive, but you need only to look to history for how ineffective everybody receding from public spaces pre-emptively in response to fears of fascism was or look more closely at the opposing solutions to the Fediverse that attempt to run away from the fragmentation and censorship of Corporate Social Media and the old internet by fragmenting pre-emptively into disconnected and uncommunicative smaller atomized commmunities to see why the Fediverse is absolutely necessary for resistance.
Long live Peertube!!!!
https://joinpeertube.org/
Does anyone actively use peertube? What instance should I use and who should I follow or subscribe to?
If that's not easy to answer than I can see why it's not an option for many.
Blender uses Peertube as a major platform for videos about Blender and made in Blender. Blender is a perfect example of actually committing to using Peertube and showing it can in general work.
https://video.blender.org/
As far as instances I recommend, Spectra.Video looks good I have been thinking of making an account there
https://spectra.video/signup
gnu linux seems like a decent Peertube instance too!
https://gnulinux.tube/signup
Here is a good gaming focused Peertube instance
https://tube.fediverse.games/
I think people way overthink the difficult of bringing new people into Peertube and the Fediverse. What is sticky are the people, artists and organizations that have people who trust them and seek out what they make, not the platforms. What is sticky about the Fediverse is that people are compelling and interesting to interact with here.
If creators decide to come here themselves, their audience in the end isn't going to care that much where they go to get the videos especially if it doesn't require an account sign up to access.
It will take time, but the inspiring thing is it is already completely possible to do!
its been at least 12 months since I visited PT but back then instance federation was voluntary so it was a chore to find stuff I might be interested in because of that, you needed to be on a dozen instances, it was like if Lemmy didn't federate, making it particularly tedious fir end users.
I used Newpipe as my PT app
So can anonymous individuals on YouTube just claim against Warner's music on there? Consistently and extensively? That would mean they would have to lose money if all things are equal......... dot dot dot
This is an open and active problem
Dang, I'd had this open in my browser but hadn't been able to watch yet
edit: It's back up apparently. I'm watching it now.
Meanwhile Google has been feeding all manner of copyrighted material into its bullshit machines and fighting copyright in court saying it’s fair use.
We have created a society that is pathologically violent towards artists and creators, past the point of any rationality we are obsessed with proving systems of control are superior to the creative capacities of humans who aren't rich.
It's time to burn everything to the ground
Who?
A youTuber who does video essay about pop culture/nerdy stuff, Lord of the Rings, Disney animated properties, etc.
She's been at it for over a decade so she has a pretty big following:
https://m.youtube.com/@LindsayEllisVids/featured
https://nebula.tv/lindsayellis
Apparently, since at least 2008 when she was invited as Nostalgia Chick to be a host on Channel Awesome. CA was enormous at the time.
It's absolutely wild she used to be on there as she's grown so much as a content creator and they haven't
the thing i like about her stuff is that it's a very different kind of nerdy, she can somehow magically make me not just tolerate but be actively interested in theatre and musicals.
Then i pause the video and look at a normal recording of some theatre production, and i'm right back to pinching myself to stay awake
Thanks!
Still have no idea who she is but greatly appreciate the info.
Someone named Lindsay Ellis, apparently. Some television idol, I imagine.
Right there with you. Not sure why I’m supposed to care based on their name.