Donald Trump Gives Update on $5,000 Dividend Promise
"Because of tariffs, we are taking in hundreds of billions of dollars of profits," he said. "It's one of the reasons I can offer, if Republicans win the House and the Senate, $5,000 to every adult. And we can do it and the Democrats can't, because the Democrats don't have any income, and they're gonna drive us in[to] a depression. They won't have any money."
Bitch you already promised us a tariff refund check.
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The covid money progressives got passed, which liberals then allowed Trump to own.
It's also against the law to rape children but here we are...
For now, just wait until pedos in charge try to change that.
If the pedos in charge try to make child rape legal (which it is since the law doesn't apply) the only difference is that we won't even be able to say it is illegal
Yeah, you know how the two tiered system goes for oligarchs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/elon-musk-wont-face-election-bribery-charges-in-wisconsin-state-prosecutor-says/
Don't shoot the messenger. Just paraphrasing the analysis done by Legal Eagle.
So, technically speaking, this isnt actually illegal. It is illegal to pay someone in exchange for voting a specific way. As in, if you vote for X, I'll pay you money. But it is not illegal to suggest you will implement a policy, including rewarding cash/a cash value item to everyone, in exchange for an outcome. If he offered only to pay republican voters, he would be buying votes. But since he is offering to pay everyone, regardless of how they voted, for the election outcome he wants, that is not actually illegal. In fact it has been litigated and protected by the SCOTUS before. It is not dissimilar in legal terms from campaign promises like "if I win, I'll cut your taxes by X%." Or "Vote for me if you want a Universal Basic Income." That too is a promise of monetary reward, independent of your vote, in exchange for an election outcome. And you hear stuff like that all the time.
So a reporter just needs to ask him if Democrat voters will get it too? Because I bet he'd go off on one about them not deserving it.
He has said repeatedly that every citizen would get it. He's a lying asshole, obviously, but until he starts saying otherwise, technically legal.
Oh it’s specifically against the law, but that apparently doesn’t matter when the party in charge has no fucking morals
You sure? Musk did it with impunity last time.
I've noticed that people keep using that reasoning. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Is only illegal if you doing get away with it.
I think technically this is fine because if you vote for the other party you still get the money if they loose.
His so-called logic is so bad it makes my head hurt.
How do people actually fall for this shit? How?!
Measles have returned because people believe vaccines cause autism. That's your answer.
Will this be the first infectious disease to be both eradicated and reintroduced? Damn, we're good.
Anybody know where we can get ahold of some small pox? /s
In 1993 Michael Crichton introduces us to the wonders of de-extinction and we all dreamed of dinosaurs in zoos. 33 years later and all we get is rebooted viruses.
Dengue fever too: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/dengue-fever-florida-virus-threat-rcna600286
54% of adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level (20% are below 5th-grade level)
And yet
91.4% of Americans aged 25 years and older have attained at least a high school diploma; 38.3% are college graduates.
TLDR; we live in a Idiocracy.
Some children were left behind
Yeah, there is a Reason Education Sucks.
Oh we have us an optimist here. We aren't even lucky enough to have a president Dwayne Elizando Mountain Dew Camacho.
Idiocracy would be a step up. We are in a full-on kakistocracy.
At least in that fictional narrative they knew enough to reward someone smarter than them.
The way it typically works is to have the dumbest declare that their vibes overrule expertise.
Yep that's why I say that I would much rather be in an idiocracy situation right now. It was truly an optimistic look at the future. If you look back now.
You're right, but I wish people would stop using a movie that preaches eugenics as a point of reference.
Many people "Reason" emotionally. The words don't matter so much as the feelings.
It's like the people going on vibes toward the end of 2024 and deciding that voting for donnie would improve their lot. Even though virtually every economic indicator was pointed in the right direction at that point.
Meanwhile, lots of the chattering class kept flogging anyone pointing this out, saying it negated people's feelings to point out the facts of an economy that was on the right track.
Also, Dems winning does not make this supposed money go away. If they are taking in these "hundreds of billions", that belongs to the government, not the Republicans.
No, see dems won't have the money because he's just going to take it all with him when he leaves. He thinks it's his own personal money.
Exactly. He cannot grasp the idea of the public trust. In his blind that's his money, he stole it so it's his to do what he wants with.
Never mind that actual tariff revenues are a tiny fraction of the 1.3Tn this deranged bribe scheme would cost.
"They're going to drive us into a depression"
...Unlike the depression that's already forming because of his fucking stupid and disastrous economic policies?
Yeah, I'll take my chances with the party that has consistently brought economic stability, rather than the party that is ruining the economy (again) and flagrantly trying to buy votes (after they've already made similar promises and failed to deliver).
The only party that actually reduces or has ever done away with deficits to the point of surplus, and the only party that has done so nearly every time elected, with the exception of those inheriting a pandemic and a nation with an economy crashing thanks to it.
Bro, tariffs are paid by us.
You’re promising to give us our money back? Like you can do that? Maybe just fucking do it right now?
Nobody should vote for republicans this guy screws everyone over all the time. If republicans win they will tariff harder and take even more away because their policy approach is fuck you that’s why.
But hey maybe we’ll get some more asshole racist ai video entertainment or whatever.
Don't forget the massive chunk he added to the national debt. He stole America's wallet, ran up the credit card, and now expects forgive and forget because he handed back $5.
And the sad thing is, it'll work on a sizable chunk of the US electorate.
Yes, tariffs are paid by you, but do you believe that someone stupid enough to vote for the orange-haired monkey would understands this? For them, the farm shop or Walmart just raised prices because things got more expensive.
Except those tariff refunds go back to the companies (even though taxpayers pay), like Nintendo for example, and then they can decide whether or not to refund. Most won't.
Ignoring everything else wrong with this, it's government money. If it actually existed it wouldn't just vanish when a democrat gets elected.
Trump and cronies are pros at making government money vanish.
I mean, if it were from tariffs it just might because Democrats would actually follow the law and stop the tariffs and refund the illegally collected money. Unfortunately that would go back to businesses not individuals.
Although Trump was already ordered to pay back the money so either he ignored the courts or the money already doesn't exist.
Trump explaining where all the tariff refunds went
He's flat out saying he considers the tarrif money "his" if a Republican government has access to it but a democratic government wouldn't...
And obviously ignoring that the "profits" are from a tax on Americans buying shit
Gotta remember who he's trying to bamboozle... Not the bright lights, the dim ones
We're already in a recession you dumb fuck
I would say it's beyond at this point.
"Because of
tariffstaxes, I think I can bribe the stupider among you with your own fucking money."--donnie dumb dumb
It’s gonna work on a good third of the voting American public, tho
Impose tariffs, make all of us pay it, then dangle some refund in front of your poor white trash voters to get them to vote again.
I worry more about the rich white trash already in power.
Hey, c'mon… They can't read. They aren't curious. They have no intellectual ability. Give 'em a break for being stupid fucking morons who condemned us to this shit, y'know?
Sarcasm. Fuck those people. I enjoy knowing that they keep getting fucked by this admin as much (or harder) as the rest of us. I only wish we didn't have to suffer with them.
He 100% thinks he gets to keep the tariff money.
This statement is literally unconstitutional. Plainly, unambiguously, no mask, no nuance, just unconstitutional.
The Treasury handles all of this accounting and congress directs spending. The Executive does not just get to use revenue received from its activities as a slush fund. Basically all of the US Government's revenue is collected by agencies under the Executive. Claiming that they can simply take tariff revenue and turn it into dividend checks is the exact same constitutional argument that he could take IRS revenue and turn it into Bitcoin.
It's so plainly illegal, and it demonstrates exactly why the current SCOTUS obsession with extremely strict standing requirements is a flawed concept.
FTFY.
LOL somehow only Republicans are capable of this because Democrats bad.
So, here’s the deal….
Everyone here can opine on how ludicrous this is, agree with one another about how fucking stupid he is, and circlejerk over how annoying it is that he does this dumb shit-
But he does it because he knows people are going to believe it. It’s not about wether or not he will make good on the promise- it’s only about getting the idiots to dance when he commands them to.
He is buying votes with our money, and it’s going to work like a fucking charm.
Think of it like this:
You know how during trials, some lawyers will say shit that is objectionable, and then stricken from the record? This is entirely on purpose. The jury can’t “unhear” it. Once it’s said, it’s done and it’s effect is now in play.
So, the moment that vapid disgusting bag of child-raping gelatinous flesh opened his shithole of a mouth, all the mentally challenged minions that fall at his feet bought it at a premium.
He’s not paying them shit. But they believe he will and as a result, will do exactly as he says.
“Profits.” what a POS.
I know that this is all Trump's blowhard bullshit, but the logic (and we know there isn't any) could easily be: If we have the money, and it's not his money, but money made from tariffs, then there's nothing to stop the Democrats from also giving everyone a $5000 check...
It's the government's money, not republican's money. A different party inherits the government and therefore can do what you're proposing. They'd be in the same situation.
Ah yes tariffs, the Republicans personal revenue stream cumulating in a very accessible slush fund to burn whatever way that specific party wishes, up to and including bribing voters.
Makes me wonder why no one else has ever thought of this? Oh, because it's not a political loophole, just blatantly fucking illegal.
Aside from it being false, that's not at all how you stimulate an economy. But he's never been good at growing a business, so...
Since the tariffs are a tax on American people purchasing things, and since rich people purchase more things, and the promise is to pay every person the same amount, this is classic socialist wealth redistribution.
I mean, it would be, if it ever came to pass.
But it's a charade when the 1% are getting massive tax cuts at the same time. Still a net loss to the 99% getting checks, but WEEE $5000! 🙄
Next thing you know, only select people will receive the money and he’ll complain about who is technically considered an adult.
$5k sounds awesome as an incentive to let you murder people and grift and destroy everything. Where do I sign up?
Prediction market odds are 5% for this happening. You can double your $5k, by just betting $250 on it, if you believe.
It's a rambling of a senile old man, why the media is reporting that instead of ignoring it.
You say "yes yes", nod and put away the cameras...
The hell did he say?
Dumb things, the three largest democratic states have higher gdp and larger discretionary state funds than all of the red states combined. Republicans don't have the funds if anything.
Mmmmm those sweet sweet taxes for profit
I’m going to buy soooooo much iced coffee, eat hot chip, and lie