Because it worked on them. At some point someone was a smug, obnoxious cunt to them online and they were like "Wow, thanks, I guess I'm a communist now!"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I sort of look at them as amusement. It's not like what they want will happen In our lifetimes (or ever probably). I don't necessarily get why everyone hates them, just try looking at them as funny content lol
They are the best example what happens when people are locked in their echo chamber. They are radicalizing themselves to the point of absurdity. The statements they make are so illogical its hard to even have a discussion about it, because they literally deny truisms.
I genuinely don't understand why the admins are dragging ass and not just defederating from them already. They provide nothing of value, just spam and harassment.
Welp, tried to delete my account and fuck off from this place due to that knowledge, but apparently account deletion doesnt work. so I'm just fuckin off.
Im so radicalized, I might vote Neoliberally, woahhhh~ i make compromises with existing powers, oooooo~ I understand that people with different views than me can be reasonable people, ooooh~ spooky ghost hands
Hexbear is naïve, clinging to foundational theory without understanding the basic tenant of people. If you adopt a lick of psychology or sociology, you quickly understand how no one theory ever solves anything, and antagonizing people into your movement is not a way to turn hearts.
I was shocked to realize that the degens on that instance aren't just trolls setting out to make the far left look as stupid as possible, they're true believers and really are that dumb. For a few harrowing days until they received defederation in exchange for their cool emojis and tankie wordvomit, I wondered whether McCarthy maybe wasn't such a bad guy after all.
Their most obnoxious members really need to learn how to proselytize because they're their own worst enemy.
You don't lead with the crazy genocide denial, you lead with pointing out stuff like Churchill genociding 3 million Indians with the Bengal famine, or that South Korea was a fascist state before the Korean war.
South Korea only fascist before the war. Definitely wasn't a fascist pseudo dictatorship until like what year is it?... I think they're still electing people related to the former dictators or in that weird cult shit. South Korea is like that super crazy cousin you have, that you forget about because their quiet and don't call you very often.
They were fascist until their President-For-Life type guy was assassinated by a member of the KCIA in 1979. He was definitely supported in some manner by the American CIA but just a couple years later Reagan would put a stop to all that "fighting fascism" business.
At least for me, the economical part isn't the problem but the authoritarian part is, which is why for me personally "fuck tankies" is more accurate than "fuck commies"
What you'll find if you're paying attention is that a lot of people mean "fuck lefties" when they say "fuck tankies" but want to hide behind bashing a permissible strawman. The person you're replying to is at least honest.
All I've seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. 🤷
Sorry y'all can't adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.
EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.
EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC 😂
Yes that's one of the disgusting ones. So naive and stupid. These hexbear people are degrading Ukrainians like they have no agency for themselves, like they have no wants and motivations as a nation and individuals. With these disgusting statements they are demeaning their fight and their lives. On the other hand there is the caricature America that somehow like an evil shaman, directs others into doing their bidding.
Grotesque.
I lost any support for them when I saw them cheering the idea that North Korea should be able to nuke other countries as they all cheered happily "Death to America" with heart emojis like there would be no mass suffering and a complete lack of critical thought of what enabling bullies means for the suffering they are wanting to happen.
They are scared idiots who think appeasing bullies means they will have an easier life and not have to think about how bad things sometimes just have to happen because not everyone is good at heart.
Then they cover it with false claim that they support all people and they only support communism because of how it would support everyone equally.
If you actually care about people you don't root for suffering and hurting and you definitely don't wave flags for the bullies just cause it's an easier answer. Life isn't so easy and they don't want to hear it.
Just try to engage in a good-faith conversation with them. They love to shut that shit down with their weird image spams. And the poop. Like literal images of poop, to scare people off, or something. I really don't get it.
Sort of like how in the dark ages of the pre-internet Era, nerds would quote LotR and Hitchhiker's Guide at each other to signal that they are nerds and are therefore of one heart and mind
You really weren't there or had a very different experience than me. I mean, I guess by "very different," I mostly mean we actually quoted Monty Python and Star Wars.
For sure. I agree with you completely and see the connection to hexbear. I was mostly just making a joke that my particular circle had different but still very specific inside jokes.
It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.
The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.
I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. 🤷
Do you see instances who's main purpose is to represent "people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right" that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?
If you're browsing all you frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I'm yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.
(I couldn't even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they're not nearly as active as Hexbear.)
Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they're more common than on others.
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
I am genuinely confused about how Hexbearians thought being dicks on the internet was going to change any hearts and/or minds
They're simply trolls
The Shittier 4chan™️
They arent just dicks. They are maniacs who are in favour of the genocides commited against ukranians and uyghurs.
Because it worked on them. At some point someone was a smug, obnoxious cunt to them online and they were like "Wow, thanks, I guess I'm a communist now!"
Me but with Vaush and he supports a more democratic and less genocidal version of communism.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I sort of look at them as amusement. It's not like what they want will happen In our lifetimes (or ever probably). I don't necessarily get why everyone hates them, just try looking at them as funny content lol
You must not have seen the amount of genocide denial they do, or the amount of simping for dictators.
What's weird is that I don't remember the Chapo guys doing any of that, they seem pretty solidly democratic socialist.
I guess that's what happens when you let your community mods be Putin bots or whatever dumbfuckery went on.
It's also what happens when you lock yourself in an echo chamber for long enough, you views will drift.
But the Chapo crowd always had tendencies towards brigading and whatnot which is why Reddit eventually deleted their sub.
Plus the Chapo crowd were firmly "Bernie or Bust," which was a pretty shit view at the time.
They are the best example what happens when people are locked in their echo chamber. They are radicalizing themselves to the point of absurdity. The statements they make are so illogical its hard to even have a discussion about it, because they literally deny truisms.
I genuinely don't understand why the admins are dragging ass and not just defederating from them already. They provide nothing of value, just spam and harassment.
Because if memory serves both Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad share some admins with each other
And with Lemmygrad and Hexbear loving each other: federation is going to stay a thing over here
One of the things I love about the instance I'm on is that we're defederated from Hexbear, it's pretty nice NGL
Well that certainly explains a lot.
What does tankie mean?
wanna-be-edgy teenager who unironically wears Che Guevara t-shirts, mostly.
Also the kind that say anything western is the devil, and anything Russian and/or Chinese is the great saviour/perfection/whatever other bullshit.
So would the people from hexbear be considered tankies?
Is there a way to see who has defederated?
Welp, tried to delete my account and fuck off from this place due to that knowledge, but apparently account deletion doesnt work. so I'm just fuckin off.
Thanks for the info, made the decision easier.
Apparently so.
Ahh I guess that's a good reason to hate them
Obligatory: fuck hexbear and fuck Lemmygrad.
Whenever I switch instances first thing I do is block these ones.
You can block specific instances on an account level? Tell me more please.
Yes, I use connect and do this through settings
Under settings there is a tab called "block", which allows you to block users and entire communities
Hum sadly on my client that option isn't there. I can only block communities or users. Can't block whole instances. :(
Might consider changing client :)
But the cool emojis D:
I mean it has worked, I never had so much vitriol for weak willed tankies before this!
Im so radicalized, I might vote Neoliberally, woahhhh~ i make compromises with existing powers, oooooo~ I understand that people with different views than me can be reasonable people, ooooh~ spooky ghost hands
Hexbear is naïve, clinging to foundational theory without understanding the basic tenant of people. If you adopt a lick of psychology or sociology, you quickly understand how no one theory ever solves anything, and antagonizing people into your movement is not a way to turn hearts.
There once was a man named Harry Seldon...
I was shocked to realize that the degens on that instance aren't just trolls setting out to make the far left look as stupid as possible, they're true believers and really are that dumb. For a few harrowing days until they received defederation in exchange for their cool emojis and tankie wordvomit, I wondered whether McCarthy maybe wasn't such a bad guy after all.
The 196 situation was fun
I think people have forgotten that the meme is supposed to be a bad deal?
Well I'm glad Hexbears have stopped spamming pig testicles at least. But. First impressions mean a lot and they did not make a good one.
Their most obnoxious members really need to learn how to proselytize because they're their own worst enemy.
You don't lead with the crazy genocide denial, you lead with pointing out stuff like Churchill genociding 3 million Indians with the Bengal famine, or that South Korea was a fascist state before the Korean war.
Oh, look, so was Vietnam.
Oh, weird, so was etc etc etc etc
South Korea only fascist before the war. Definitely wasn't a fascist pseudo dictatorship until like what year is it?... I think they're still electing people related to the former dictators or in that weird cult shit. South Korea is like that super crazy cousin you have, that you forget about because their quiet and don't call you very often.
They were fascist until their President-For-Life type guy was assassinated by a member of the KCIA in 1979. He was definitely supported in some manner by the American CIA but just a couple years later Reagan would put a stop to all that "fighting fascism" business.
They are so far from being communist right now. They are just using communism as a mask.
Oh, there's gonna be some opinions in this thread.
the symbol was making me think it was a cryptocurrency
Notice to all suxbears entering this premesis:
Donald Trump is a communist and he is just like you. Everyone here agrees.
Actual fact
I’m surprised no one shared all the emoji publicly
Fuck hexbear. Fuck commies.
*tankies
I wrote what I meant.
At least for me, the economical part isn't the problem but the authoritarian part is, which is why for me personally "fuck tankies" is more accurate than "fuck commies"
What you'll find if you're paying attention is that a lot of people mean "fuck lefties" when they say "fuck tankies" but want to hide behind bashing a permissible strawman. The person you're replying to is at least honest.
And naive me thought the Red Scare was long over :')
Not a fair trade. If my state of being radicalized was a human, it could drink in all non-dry counties in the US. What else have you got?
Death to all communist trash
All I've seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. 🤷
Sorry y'all can't adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.
EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.
EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC 😂
For me it was the brain dead disgusting coments they make about Ukraine and the war.
The ones about how America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
Yes that's one of the disgusting ones. So naive and stupid. These hexbear people are degrading Ukrainians like they have no agency for themselves, like they have no wants and motivations as a nation and individuals. With these disgusting statements they are demeaning their fight and their lives. On the other hand there is the caricature America that somehow like an evil shaman, directs others into doing their bidding. Grotesque.
They forgot to mention that the reason Ukrainians don't have agency is because the West is turning them gay:
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/08/putins-adviser-says-u-s-is-using-brainwashing-to-make-gay-ukrainian-super-soldiers/
I lost any support for them when I saw them cheering the idea that North Korea should be able to nuke other countries as they all cheered happily "Death to America" with heart emojis like there would be no mass suffering and a complete lack of critical thought of what enabling bullies means for the suffering they are wanting to happen.
They are scared idiots who think appeasing bullies means they will have an easier life and not have to think about how bad things sometimes just have to happen because not everyone is good at heart.
Then they cover it with false claim that they support all people and they only support communism because of how it would support everyone equally.
If you actually care about people you don't root for suffering and hurting and you definitely don't wave flags for the bullies just cause it's an easier answer. Life isn't so easy and they don't want to hear it.
Just try to engage in a good-faith conversation with them. They love to shut that shit down with their weird image spams. And the poop. Like literal images of poop, to scare people off, or something. I really don't get it.
You really weren't there or had a very different experience than me. I mean, I guess by "very different," I mostly mean we actually quoted Monty Python and Star Wars.
Who are you, to be so wise in the ways of science?
Precisely
For sure. I agree with you completely and see the connection to hexbear. I was mostly just making a joke that my particular circle had different but still very specific inside jokes.
It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.
that and the stupid image emojis
The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.
I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. 🤷
Do you see instances who's main purpose is to represent "people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right" that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?
If you're browsing
allyou frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I'm yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.(I couldn't even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they're not nearly as active as Hexbear.)
Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they're more common than on others.
Yeah, it's called most of the internet. 🤷
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
People should not be bullied, but opinions and believes are not free of criticism.
I mean, just read the comments on this:
https://hexbear.net/post/618701
https://hexbear.net/post/44995
https://hexbear.net/post/375644
Yeah, it's called most of the internet. 🤷
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.