Hahaha Michelle Maxwell had a 4 out of 5 chance of getting the stressed word correct and completely bombed. Impressive stuff. Almost any other of those words would have been better than 'of'.
Interestingly, it depends on how you measure efficiency.
Per unit of sunlight that hits a patch of land, solar panels capture about 20% of the sunlight that hits. Charging a vehicle battery and powering the motor might result in a 25% loss, so that we're basically converting about 15% of the sunlight into movement.
In contrast, plants convert only about 1-2% of sunlight energy through photosynthesis. Feeding that plant biomass to be converted into stored energy in an animal, and then that animal moving its muscles to propel a vehicle, we might be talking a huge loss there, too, so that we're looking at less than 1% of the sunlight being turned into motion.
If you want to most efficiently convert sunlight into movement, bypassing any and all biological processes is probably the most efficient thing to do.
There was a startup that made a splash last year by claiming they had a process that could manufacture organic compounds, including edible fats resembling animal-derived butter, out of nothing but carbon dioxide, water, and energy, through a Fischer-Tropsch process.
I could see a world where people on a spaceship more efficiently use their sunlight to create synthetic edible macronutrients rather than using that same sunlight to try to grow edible plants.
Yeah but plants just like magically appear, solar panels need raw materials, a factory and all the infrastructure that comes with that. Add that mess into your equations.
I feel - apple grows on a tree in my garden, I eat apple, I power bicycle is more efficient than - I mine raw materials, I build factory, I bring all raw materials to factory, I power factory and produce solar panels, I put solar panels in field, hook them up to the power grid, and then think about charging my ebike which also took way more raw materials than a bicycle due to lack of battery and I would still need to power myself.
What percentage of your calorie intake comes from industrialized agriculture, where planting, growing, and harvesting the food uses a significant amount of fossil fuels and fertilizers and other inputs that come from industrialized production?
Home grown and locally grown food is pretty good for flavor, but not particularly efficient with calories.
DMT is IMO not a "recreational" drug. The few times I've done it, it was a shitload of mental and emotional work to keep up with. Definitely alternate realities though -- LSD lets you wander into otherworldly thoughts; Psilocybin lets you visualize them vividly; DMT slams them into your sensory apparatus like a brick wrapped in lemon
There should be a carbon tax, but whoever signs it will be the least popular president in history. One of the flaws of democracy is that sometimes the thing that really needs to happen is unpopular with the moronic citizenry that can't understand why it needs to happen.
Have you ever, as a gag, ordered a single of expensive whiskey and shot it in front of the bar tender? Me either, I do that with cheap whiskey just fine.
It's both. We're not getting paid the full value of our labor, annual wage cuts are the default, and the only safe ways to save require buying into that same system of oppression.
The problem isn't any of those things. The problem is that there isn't enough affordable housing, and not enough housing period. We're literally in a near-global housing crisis. Everything else would be fine if that wasn't the case.
Wages are double what they used to be when gas was $2/gallon. So $4/gallon shouldn't be a problem.
The problem is housing, followed by grocery. And in some areas, followed by energy.
Gas isn't even on the list. It only feels as bad as it does because of everything else.
Not that it couldn't be cheaper.
...And not like any country is selfless with their natural resources.
And also the system of global exploitation that gave us cheap goods because we oppressed the global south into accepting low wages (aka imperialism) has reached a point where the capitalists are extracting diminishing returns. This means they have to turn their gaze towards home and exploit us more in order to keep increasing their profit margins.
Blah blah blah what’s next we are unhinged, we need to touch grass? Are we not fun at parties? Do we need to seek help? What else do you bots love to parrot.
I once got an F in school for pointing out the text was an obvious joke 😂 It wasn't. Turns out people in that time period were really stupid. (Guess that also holds true for modern times. Maybe even more so.)
Truly spoken like someone with too much disposable.
More and more people can't afford the wine or the fancy coffee, or the gasoline to get to the fancy restaurant, or the time to eat out after working their two jobs, or the 4000-lb SUV to pour the gasoline into, because they need their old banger and the gasoline to haul their ass to work to earn enough to pay rent, utilities and a bit more gasoline to stay on the hamster wheel for one more month - month after month.
This. And the other consideration they aren't factoring in is that the cost of gasoline makes everything else more expensive, too.
Based on what I know of wine, a $9/glass varietal is on the lower end of quality today, but that was about average a few years ago. My recollection is that a cheap wine would have gone for $5/glass in 2010. The Two Buck Chuck that we bought by the case in college now costs almost $5.
The wine hasn't gotten any better. But it costs more to move that wine by truck to the store, so the price goes up. It costs more to manufacture the bottles and power the equipment they use to process the grapes. It costs more to harvest and transport the grapes in the first place. It's a chain of price increases down the line that all add up with the cost of gas.
Wages haven't meaningfully increased at a comparable rate either. Even if you're earning a bit more now on paper than you were 5-10 years ago, everyone's purchasing power has dropped significantly. Even if prices of certain goods haven't gone up that much, I have to think a lot more about my spending today than I used to.
That is exactly what we are doing in the upper end of that efficiency range (turbochargers, turbine generators, heater cores) - the waste heat from that is unharvestable (exhaust gas, engine core heat).
Yea, combined cycle gas turbine power plants are pushing above 60% efficiency. They use the waste heat from the turbine exhaust to generate steam and then extract energy from there. About as good as it gets.
Cars could be a lot better if emissions wasn't a concern.
The focus on golf clubs tells me exactly the type of person this is.
Also, my bike will transport my wife and clubs for a lot longer than 30 minutes on cheap Ramen lunch.
EV charging stations should start putting up gas station style boards showing the current price per kWh. Not that a kWh of electrons gets you as far as a gallon of gas, but a substantial chunk of the population will see the smaller number and start thinking about switching.
I mean even then it is way cheaper compared to gasoline. Around me, EV stations charge ~$0.50/kwh (give or take) and gas is ~$4.50/gal. Assuming 5 mi/kwh and 25 mpg, that comes out to $0.10/mi on electric and $0.18/mi on gas. So in "gas prices", EVs cost ~$2.50/gal and that's assuming you don't do most of your charging at home, which takes it down to ~$0.08/kwh around me ($0.016/mi or $0.40/gal equivalent).
The conversion for eMPG (which yes, is possibly the most cursed of units) is ~33 kwh equals a gallon. My PNW home electricity prices are pretty low, but that puts an eGallon at ~$2.97.
If anything I think that number is misleadingly high, but that's part of why it's possibly the most cursed unit.
Technically he isn't wrong, but not for the reasons he thinks. Gas prices are subsidized significantly. And if they weren't, people sure wouldn't drive as much. Unsubsidized it would be between 10 and 15 per gallon. So if 2 to 4 is double, that would mean it would now be 20 to 30. So like a dollar a mile in his math.
By that logic, the most cost-effective fuel would be a little baggie of shrooms.
For less than $10, it will transport him 20-light-years to another realm of existence, where he can have afternoon tea and crumpets with a friendly Narwhal named Gershwin, lounging under a rainbow.
Where I live, gas is 2.28€/L, that's about $11.80/gallon, still people rather drive their car to work every day instead of riding the 2000€ eBike collecting dust in their garage, and they are 5km (3.1mi) away from work. I would argue has price is not expensive enough for them.
On the other hand, the student we have on part time, rides the train 2 hours to come, because it's too expensive for him to tank up his motorcycle.
You don't understand, i need a big truck so otger people don't think i'm gay and assume i can afford my car. That 5k check from tge pedophile better come soon.
A current model year prius is ~3,250lbs / ~1,500kg and only gets 54mpg highway - what normal sized cars are you thinking of that will get you 60mpg without hypermiling?
Diesel cars (not trucks) have done 60 highway mpg for 2 decades now. The Prius isn't a very efficient vehicle on the highway, it's better suited for urban driving where the electric motor and regen help save a bunch of fuel.
Yes, there absolutely are a small handful of diesel cars that get 60mpg or more stock! And if we're doing alternate powertrains, my EV gets an equivalent to ~130mpg. But since this conversation is about gasoline it's not really... relevant.
Also, what? The prius is an incredibly efficient vehicle on the highway. The 2026 prius averages 53 mpg city, 54 highway.
A lot of Americans live 30 minutes from the nearest real grocery store.
But yeah they still don't need a lifted truck to go there. It's not like the cashiers at the Wal Mart Super Center are going to be impressed by their Carolina Squat lifted white pavement princess, but that's what they insist on driving.
I didn't say you lived in a metro area. I said those distances and travel times are only realistic in the parts of the US people consider very densely populated.
Pavement princess pickup trucks. Shiny, chrome, pristine, comically huge trucks that never see any work or recreation and aren't ever intended to. The "all hat no cattle" of vehicles.
Fuels are additive to the cost of the (sometimes bottled) water, coffee, etc. that gets delivered as part of the transportation and delivery costs. That‘s different than just buying the water and expecting a comparative output from it.
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agents deployed.
Hahaha Michelle Maxwell had a 4 out of 5 chance of getting the stressed word correct and completely bombed. Impressive stuff. Almost any other of those words would have been better than 'of'.
lol yeah. I don't think any of those words need stressing though. Works fine without it. 😄
Huh, they let Betty be a lesbian.
How can you tell from this picture?
"Wife"
Betty might have transitioned. They go to the men’s room too.
If Betty wasn’t a bot they’d be so upset right now.
I'm a trans man I'm immune to this joke
Beep Boop beep I keep hearing people complain....
Saya terus-menerus mendengar orang mengeluh....
My bike gets like 100 miles per gallon of oatmeal
That can't be good for the fuel injector.
Just don't put any additives or you will blow up the exhaust
You need to mix it with something. Once you add water or milk its great. It usually gets stuck when you add it dry.
You can brush your teeth if there's a lot of sugar.
density of oatmeal (source (although this is with sugar)): 693 kg/m³ = 0.69 kg/L
nutritional value of oatmeal (source): 297 kJ/100g = 2970 kJ/kg
(oatmeal with sugar and stuff: 4600 kJ/kg, same source as the first one)
typical leisurely cycling energy expenditure (source): 80 kJ/km
bicycle oatmeal-efficiency: (2970 kJ/kg * 0.69 kg/L) / (80 kJ / km) ≈ 25.62 km/L ≈ 3.9 L/100km ≈ 60 mpg
bicycle oatmeal-efficiency with sugary oatmeal: (4600 kJ/kg * 0.69 kg/L) / (80 kJ/km) ≈ 39.68 km/L ≈ 2.5 L/100km ≈ 93 mpg
please do correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the math pretty much checks out on that one!
Nothing beats bicycle when it's comes to efficiency.
Interestingly, it depends on how you measure efficiency.
Per unit of sunlight that hits a patch of land, solar panels capture about 20% of the sunlight that hits. Charging a vehicle battery and powering the motor might result in a 25% loss, so that we're basically converting about 15% of the sunlight into movement.
In contrast, plants convert only about 1-2% of sunlight energy through photosynthesis. Feeding that plant biomass to be converted into stored energy in an animal, and then that animal moving its muscles to propel a vehicle, we might be talking a huge loss there, too, so that we're looking at less than 1% of the sunlight being turned into motion.
If you want to most efficiently convert sunlight into movement, bypassing any and all biological processes is probably the most efficient thing to do.
So I should start eating solar panels then?
There was a startup that made a splash last year by claiming they had a process that could manufacture organic compounds, including edible fats resembling animal-derived butter, out of nothing but carbon dioxide, water, and energy, through a Fischer-Tropsch process.
I could see a world where people on a spaceship more efficiently use their sunlight to create synthetic edible macronutrients rather than using that same sunlight to try to grow edible plants.
Yeah but plants just like magically appear, solar panels need raw materials, a factory and all the infrastructure that comes with that. Add that mess into your equations.
I feel - apple grows on a tree in my garden, I eat apple, I power bicycle is more efficient than - I mine raw materials, I build factory, I bring all raw materials to factory, I power factory and produce solar panels, I put solar panels in field, hook them up to the power grid, and then think about charging my ebike which also took way more raw materials than a bicycle due to lack of battery and I would still need to power myself.
What percentage of your calorie intake comes from industrialized agriculture, where planting, growing, and harvesting the food uses a significant amount of fossil fuels and fertilizers and other inputs that come from industrialized production?
Home grown and locally grown food is pretty good for flavor, but not particularly efficient with calories.
Similar with mine. 80km a week in cycling to work.
Herb grower eh. I use mine to get around town when Ive been uh.... Growing herb....
Used to be a 20 buck can into town and 20 back. Saved hundreds on cabs, hundreds on fuel, got in better shape
... whie just a few microliters of LSD can transport you across the ENTIRE UNIVERSE
They say DMT feela like loading the Universe into the cannon and shooting yourself with it.
DMT is IMO not a "recreational" drug. The few times I've done it, it was a shitload of mental and emotional work to keep up with. Definitely alternate realities though -- LSD lets you wander into otherworldly thoughts; Psilocybin lets you visualize them vividly; DMT slams them into your sensory apparatus like a brick wrapped in lemon
I have know idea, that's just what people say. I can see why that would not be recreational.
For the damage it's doing, fossil fuels should be several times more expensive to compensate in climate change costs and reduce demand.
There should be a carbon tax, but whoever signs it will be the least popular president in history. One of the flaws of democracy is that sometimes the thing that really needs to happen is unpopular with the moronic citizenry that can't understand why it needs to happen.
There are countries who already do have a CO2 tax.
Yup, they've deferred paying the full balance on extraction, refining, and burning for a century. Why would they start now?
You ain't wrong
Has he tried HP printer ink?
I find it too metallic to be a solid drink, but the price does make me feel fancy.
Just a shot now and then, as a treat.
Still an expensive drink.
Have you ever, as a gag, ordered a single of expensive whiskey and shot it in front of the bar tender? Me either, I do that with cheap whiskey just fine.
The problem isn't that prices are going up. The problem is we're not paid anywhere near what we should be.
AKA The rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
It's both. We're not getting paid the full value of our labor, annual wage cuts are the default, and the only safe ways to save require buying into that same system of oppression.
The problem isn't any of those things. The problem is that there isn't enough affordable housing, and not enough housing period. We're literally in a near-global housing crisis. Everything else would be fine if that wasn't the case.
Wages are double what they used to be when gas was $2/gallon. So $4/gallon shouldn't be a problem.
The problem is housing, followed by grocery. And in some areas, followed by energy.
Gas isn't even on the list. It only feels as bad as it does because of everything else.
Not that it couldn't be cheaper.
...And not like any country is selfless with their natural resources.
I don't strongly disagree; housing is one of those safe places to invest in our own oppression.
I would like to propose a solution...
And also the system of global exploitation that gave us cheap goods because we oppressed the global south into accepting low wages (aka imperialism) has reached a point where the capitalists are extracting diminishing returns. This means they have to turn their gaze towards home and exploit us more in order to keep increasing their profit margins.
Is this going to be another thread of people taking an obvious joke seriously
While it doesn't show the whole post, nothing about this screams obvious joke.
I saw a Trump supporter in a very red area of the U.S. share this or a very similar thing sincerely. He didn't think it was a joke.
Literally the entire thing screams obvious joke.
I think we have different definitions of obvious.
Yes. I have the correct one, you have the wrong one.
Oh, is this like the thing where "literally" can be used in additional contexts outside of its primary meaning? So, this joke is "obvious"?
No like the joke is just obvious to anyone who has eyes and reading comprehension skills and a basic understanding of humor.
Blah blah blah what’s next we are unhinged, we need to touch grass? Are we not fun at parties? Do we need to seek help? What else do you bots love to parrot.
Obviously not.
You can't see the joke through the stink lines coming off your feet.
Lmao. Go shit yourself asshole.
Oh so you’re a bot.
I once got an F in school for pointing out the text was an obvious joke 😂 It wasn't. Turns out people in that time period were really stupid. (Guess that also holds true for modern times. Maybe even more so.)
Well it’s fucking not.
The same could be said of this entire timeline since 2016 and I don't see any of us laughing.
Poe's law. It's not extreme enough. I can easily picture a maga using this logic to justify why Trump's middle east fuckup isn't all that bad.
It’s not a joke it’s a bot with gop talking points.
I know people who post this unironically. They are too far gone
The Tisms strike again
Dude, I've got the 'tism; I think this is largely a media literacy issue.
If that’s the case then I think Lemmy has some of the worst media literacy per user that I’ve ever seen in one space online. Minus maybe Facebook
Oh, I happen to agree.
Media literacy around the world is in shambles, not just in some dumb corner of the internet.
In this case I’m specifically referring to detection of satire and sarcasm
Satire is dead. People unironically believe some of the most bat shit things with their entire heart.
Sarcasm has always been mostly about tone of voice and difficult to tell through text.
I think this is largely a literacy issue.
FTFY
well..
All the reading beyond this point was oppositional research.
If "Calvin's dadism" was a cult, I'd be in it
Truly spoken like someone with too much disposable.
More and more people can't afford the wine or the fancy coffee, or the gasoline to get to the fancy restaurant, or the time to eat out after working their two jobs, or the 4000-lb SUV to pour the gasoline into, because they need their old banger and the gasoline to haul their ass to work to earn enough to pay rent, utilities and a bit more gasoline to stay on the hamster wheel for one more month - month after month.
This. And the other consideration they aren't factoring in is that the cost of gasoline makes everything else more expensive, too.
Based on what I know of wine, a $9/glass varietal is on the lower end of quality today, but that was about average a few years ago. My recollection is that a cheap wine would have gone for $5/glass in 2010. The Two Buck Chuck that we bought by the case in college now costs almost $5.
The wine hasn't gotten any better. But it costs more to move that wine by truck to the store, so the price goes up. It costs more to manufacture the bottles and power the equipment they use to process the grapes. It costs more to harvest and transport the grapes in the first place. It's a chain of price increases down the line that all add up with the cost of gas.
Wages haven't meaningfully increased at a comparable rate either. Even if you're earning a bit more now on paper than you were 5-10 years ago, everyone's purchasing power has dropped significantly. Even if prices of certain goods haven't gone up that much, I have to think a lot more about my spending today than I used to.
Petrol is super cheap, because the only thing you can really do with it is burn it for energy.
That and you waste 60-90 percent of that energy potential as heat.
What if we harvest that heat for energy
That is exactly what we are doing in the upper end of that efficiency range (turbochargers, turbine generators, heater cores) - the waste heat from that is unharvestable (exhaust gas, engine core heat).
Yea, combined cycle gas turbine power plants are pushing above 60% efficiency. They use the waste heat from the turbine exhaust to generate steam and then extract energy from there. About as good as it gets.
Cars could be a lot better if emissions wasn't a concern.
The focus on golf clubs tells me exactly the type of person this is. Also, my bike will transport my wife and clubs for a lot longer than 30 minutes on cheap Ramen lunch.
That is If I had golf clubs…
Or a bike…
And my wife may have left me...
Now I’m hungry for noodles.
It's literally a bot with made-up talking points. This isn't a a real person.
I had some really good ramen last night at one of the conveyor belt sushi places.
Super expensive.
But good.
DM ME NOOD^l^ES!
EV charging stations should start putting up gas station style boards showing the current price per kWh. Not that a kWh of electrons gets you as far as a gallon of gas, but a substantial chunk of the population will see the smaller number and start thinking about switching.
I mean even then it is way cheaper compared to gasoline. Around me, EV stations charge ~$0.50/kwh (give or take) and gas is ~$4.50/gal. Assuming 5 mi/kwh and 25 mpg, that comes out to $0.10/mi on electric and $0.18/mi on gas. So in "gas prices", EVs cost ~$2.50/gal and that's assuming you don't do most of your charging at home, which takes it down to ~$0.08/kwh around me ($0.016/mi or $0.40/gal equivalent).
EVs get around 3-4 mi/kwh. Still better than gas by a little bit, but intentionally close to price matching.
The conversion for eMPG (which yes, is possibly the most cursed of units) is ~33 kwh equals a gallon. My PNW home electricity prices are pretty low, but that puts an eGallon at ~$2.97.
If anything I think that number is misleadingly high, but that's part of why it's possibly the most cursed unit.
I get 4.2 m/kWh on the highway, $2.97 / eGallon seems very high to me.
I remember this exact same post when Biden was president... oh wait, no I don't.
Magas got mad at him for pressing the "raise gas prices" button when Russia decided to invade The Ukraine.
Technically he isn't wrong, but not for the reasons he thinks. Gas prices are subsidized significantly. And if they weren't, people sure wouldn't drive as much. Unsubsidized it would be between 10 and 15 per gallon. So if 2 to 4 is double, that would mean it would now be 20 to 30. So like a dollar a mile in his math.
Remember when gas went up a little bit under Biden and these motherfuckers never shut the fuck up about it? I am sick of this shit
By that logic, the most cost-effective fuel would be a little baggie of shrooms.
For less than $10, it will transport him 20-light-years to another realm of existence, where he can have afternoon tea and crumpets with a friendly Narwhal named Gershwin, lounging under a rainbow.
You've met him, too?
Where I live, gas is 2.28€/L, that's about $11.80/gallon, still people rather drive their car to work every day instead of riding the 2000€ eBike collecting dust in their garage, and they are 5km (3.1mi) away from work. I would argue has price is not expensive enough for them.
On the other hand, the student we have on part time, rides the train 2 hours to come, because it's too expensive for him to tank up his motorcycle.
Pic I took the other day, price was the same when I drove past it last night
I rather drink a glass of wine than 2 gallons of gasoline.
Which weighs more, a gallon of gold or a gallon of feathers? /s
Psshh you won't trick me. They weigh the same.
If only you were driving a normal sized car, the same amount of gas would take you twice as far.
I have a Hyundai Elantra that gets the same fuel economy
Exactly, 30 miles for $4 is Prius-level cost per distance.
I had the same engine in a truck and a car. The car went 33% further per gallon.
You don't understand, i need a big truck so otger people don't think i'm gay and assume i can afford my car. That 5k check from tge pedophile better come soon.
A current model year prius is ~3,250lbs / ~1,500kg and only gets 54mpg highway - what normal sized cars are you thinking of that will get you 60mpg without hypermiling?
Diesel cars (not trucks) have done 60 highway mpg for 2 decades now. The Prius isn't a very efficient vehicle on the highway, it's better suited for urban driving where the electric motor and regen help save a bunch of fuel.
Yes, there absolutely are a small handful of diesel cars that get 60mpg or more stock! And if we're doing alternate powertrains, my EV gets an equivalent to ~130mpg. But since this conversation is about gasoline it's not really... relevant.
Also, what? The prius is an incredibly efficient vehicle on the highway. The 2026 prius averages 53 mpg city, 54 highway.
Smells like cope.
Yes, so now you have "justified" the gas prices. What about the child grape, misogyny, racism, and general evil?
A gallon of petrol is a good use of $4 if you are going to have the pedo president burnt at the stake.
Pushing £2/litre here and I am still waiting for air quality to improve. Maybe £5/litre is necessary.
Higher prices for most with reductions on red diesel could possibly be a good compromise.
You don't need a fucking SUV to go to the corner shop 500m away.
A lot of Americans live 30 minutes from the nearest real grocery store.
But yeah they still don't need a lifted truck to go there. It's not like the cashiers at the Wal Mart Super Center are going to be impressed by their Carolina Squat lifted white pavement princess, but that's what they insist on driving.
30 minutes is cycling to another town here. Or if you want to drive during rush hour, it gets you half way down the main road.
That's how the US is in certain metro areas. In the boonies there are hundreds of miles of rural back roads where people drive 60mph during rush hour.
Metro? We don't even have a train station here. Would have to cycle to another town for that, or take a bus/ferry.
I didn't say you lived in a metro area. I said those distances and travel times are only realistic in the parts of the US people consider very densely populated.
Wow... I don't get this guy. He never had $0.92/gal gas?
As much as it pains me to have this thought, there are adults running around today who were very small children in 2004.
What happens to the other half of the junk in his trunk?
oh are the americans whining aboit the price of their state-sanctioned harf-price fuel again
must be a day with an a in it
30mpg? what you guys are driving, an Abrams
Pavement princess pickup trucks. Shiny, chrome, pristine, comically huge trucks that never see any work or recreation and aren't ever intended to. The "all hat no cattle" of vehicles.
I'm confused by comments like this because my Hyundai Elantra gets 7-8L/100km, which according to internet calculators is 30mpg
maybe I'm just thrown off by the cursedness of the MPG unit and how much the difference is between 25-30 and 30-35
i get 3.5-4L/100km in my Peugeot 308 which is around 60mpg
I wish I could get something like that, but the market just doesn't have it
best I've managed was 5.5 in a Toyota Tercel. the successor (Yaris) is comparable to the Elantra, at 7-8
mine is Diesel ("gazole"), not Petrol ("essence"); Diesel have lesser consumption, maybe that explains it
Prices of USA is like in Russia, while in Europe we are paying 10dollars a gallon. Stop whining.
How much is lsd or shrooms in comparison? Im sure he will have a hell of a long trip for the price.
Well that's a minute of my life I'll never get back.
And here I was hoping it would be about how wasteful those huge cars are.
Diminishing returns on wine. Have too much and you'll piss yourself at the table effectively raising the price per km traveled to infinity.
This has to be a shitpost right?
it's astroturf, prolly a bot account
think of how much money the gas companies could make if they switched to selling coffee for fuel instead of gas - wait guys, am I on to something here
Fuels are additive to the cost of the (sometimes bottled) water, coffee, etc. that gets delivered as part of the transportation and delivery costs. That‘s different than just buying the water and expecting a comparative output from it.
Makes sense though.
Is this not a joke?