I somehow ended up on a Pokemon card collector Facebook group.
Scalpers are losing thier mind because the drop rates of rare cards are higher in the new sets and they made ALOT of sets.
So a lot of the scalpers are like “how could they do this to us! This is my livelihood “ and all the people who enjoy the game are like “well this is fucking amazing!”
This is like saying that walking up to someone in a dark alley, pulling out a 9mm and robbing them is just filling the demand of the market of not getting shot in the face
But without the scalpers the market demand would be met to saturation by the original supplier. As it is some people are paying more for this thing because people who didn't want to use it bought it.
The market demand they are filling is cutting in line. Every time a scalper buys an item, a legitimate customer doesn't get it. So genuinely SOMEONE is not getting a steam frame because of a scalper. That's how it works. The steam frames being sold on ebay aren't just magically generated by scalpers, they are the result of someone else getting pushed out of line.
They’re not fulfilling a market demand, Valve intentionally underproduced Steam Frames to create temporary artificial scarcity (hype) and the scalpers are taking advantage of that. Supply & demand aren’t natural laws because humans control production levels. Scalpers are lowkey encouraged by Valve because they increase the perception of value/scarcity
This is some weird logic. How as a business could you know exactly how many of an item you need to produce and have in stock less than a week before you take orders? What happens to a business that produces lets say 1 million units but then when orders start they only sell 10k?
The only way to solve this with your way of thinking is to do some kind of Kickstarter/early order before production.
These are some high level conspiracy theories if you seriously think this is how it works.
Report them all and give them fake offers for the lulz. Even better, when they actually ship, find the people selling them on Facebook and make them drive an hour away while you sit in your room laughing.
In the US we need modifications to the first sale doctrine. I don't think it should be done away with all-together but, It should be forced like you said to be MSRP as the ceiling. They also need to codify that licenses to use and digital goods apply to the doctrine meaning that any digital good must have a capability to resell/transfer rights of. Because with everything becoming digital only, its making the entire doctrine useless.
Fun "I Have No Mouth..." story. Daughter wanted to see the Digital Circus movie in theaters, which would include us going with and taking her. So she wanted us to watch the series too, otherwise we'd be watching the movie without the context. And I agreed, ticket purchases and watching, contingent that she get the context that's based on by reading Harlan Ellison first. Can't say she enjoyed it as much as wacky lolsorandom show... but I tried.
The fucking what movie? Why are stupid webseries turning into movies? Like the fucking skibidi toilet movie. You know, they turned Minecraft into a movie once. Only exists because it's Minecraft.
I'll say that the Digital Circus wasn't really my kind of show....
BUT, I do support indie creators, small studios reaching audiences and breaking barriers that previously only major studios could achieve. There's something very cool about a person going from making a youtube webseries to getting to nationwide theater screenings.
And, love/hate it, that's kind of what Digital Circus did.... it didn't need major studios thumb of approval to be funded and distributed. It funded itself and got connected directly to theaters without dealing with hollywood/studio/corpo gatekeeping money leeching focus groups.... just a creator making a space for a shared fan/community experience. And that's pretty cool.
These people are crazy, I've seen videos where the poor sales clerks have to call the police on them multiple times because that's how aggressive they'll get.
I recently got lucky and managed to pick up a Cafelat Robot (really hard to get manual espresso maker). It completely sold out in minutes. I paid $495 CAD. I then saw a local listing a few days later, someone was selling one BNIB for $950. It sold in a couple hours. I was so mad when I saw it sold.
Wait I thought the Steam Frame is sold to random people who registered for the purchase? And only one per person? So how do Scalpers purchase them in bulk?
Ways to buy in bulk aside, there will be people who just buy their one allowed Frame only to scalp it, just like people did with Steam Decks. Most scalpers are not big operations, just people who bought one in order to resell.
They don't... If they do, they had many multiple accounts with multiple addresses and payment methods, have actual play time on actual paid (not F2P) games and made a Steam purchase before 2026/04/26. They could be sitting on their accounts for a long while to be ready for this. Don't buy scalper stuff. Only purchase from Valve. Be patient. Used market an old headset if you're new to VR, they're cheap and work today.
I reported as many as I could under “suspected as fraudulent.” Nowhere can I find an option that says “Presale” is not allowed. I’m not that surprised since this is eBay.
It's because presale isn't actually against their policy. What is against their policy is someone putting an inventory up that they haven't confirmed they are going to have.
So like if they have the email from Valve saying "this is the timeframe you get this" and that timeframe is more less than than 40 days out, as long as they can confirm shipment within 40 days of the item listing it's allowed.
I wonder if you get a new report option if the page has been active for more than 40 days, or if said issue requires a buyer to report them when they don't ship within 40
Being said, I think valve should crack down on the resale of their product on platforms like ebay, if they can find a listing that links to a steam account terminate future sales. With how overarching their system is they could likely cite Policy violation and close the entire account as well.
I assume it would be fairly easy to look for identical card numbers across the platform, or require the primary account on the device to be the account that purchased it for at least X amount of days having the system like how phone carriers do with carrier locking.
I wanna buy a home server so i sometimes check eBay and FUCKK SCALPERS they buy every computer, remove RAM and SSD ans then sell it again without them at the same price so i cannot afford anything anymore because i have to buy overpriced RAM, overpriced SSDs and over priced computers 🥹
Yeah this makes my blood boil. It's been happening for yearrss, long before the AIpocalypse. So many used/decommissioned computers on eBay that don't even have RAM. As for storage, there is somewhat of a "data sanitization" angle there, but seeing as how people put used disks up anyways, there is kind of no excuse to not leave them in after sanitizing them.
Libs in my country often say - "Socialism heroically fights problems that don’t exist under any other system."
And I like to think about it each time there's a debate about shit like scalpers, billionaires, hedge funds, lobbying, etc.
Because under socialism, at least we were trying to overcome problems that weren't know to the capitalist societies. Under capitalism, we can only cope, because the system is designed around it's crippling problems and if they were eliminated, there would no longer be capitalism.
Given that Steam Frame is ARM64, and runs a rooted version of Linux, I wonder how long until a homebrew version crops up. I hope people are playing with this idea.
Like you mean homebrew version as in hardware? that is already possible.
There is nothing stopping anyone from making an OpenXR compatible headset that runs linux, the steam frame is one example of this but its not like the steam frame invented this, its just really hard.
Well, it probably wouldn't have this much demand if it ran Solaris with no root password set on SPARC...
Anyways, you can hotglue a computer to a Valve Index then make it run Monado with WlxOverlay. I don't know if it can run without a monitor, I guess you will have to try it and see, or just make a fake software monitor.
The companies selling multiple to one customer and allowing this are the ones to blame. Screw the scalpers too, but we should be angry with them as well I think.
I mean it's basic economics. The real solution is for companies to price them correctly in the first place. You can also have a lottery, but the current state is silly.
This is not rage bait… I’m being sincere here… I beat RDR1&2… wasted hours in other compelling games… and then I realized… what if I put my body into bizarre situations and then treat it like a game…
What is the most compelling vr we will see… basically having the ability to control our game critter the way we can control our own body.
Our body, in a real environment, and our imagination…
Nothing beats it.
Honestly… respond the high console prices with indifference and play the dating sim where when you score you seriously score.
There are so many brilliant opportunities to direct your hate to, and you waste it on people who got more lucky than you in consumerism? Amateurs. *laughs an evil black metal laugh*
What I'm hearing is that you have a limited capacity of hatred and have to ration it, as opposed to normal people just hating all of the things they deem hate-worthy
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I somehow ended up on a Pokemon card collector Facebook group.
Scalpers are losing thier mind because the drop rates of rare cards are higher in the new sets and they made ALOT of sets.
So a lot of the scalpers are like “how could they do this to us! This is my livelihood “ and all the people who enjoy the game are like “well this is fucking amazing!”
Be sure to rub it in with lemon juice
Wasteing citrus juice? In this economy? I can’t afford that.
Piss is more economically sound
And it’s sterile!
Price it at whatever you like, scalpers, I will not buy it
But the other thousand buyers will
I would say that those that buy is just as big of a problem as the scalpers. If people would just stop buying... Sad scalper.
The scalpers are just filling a market demand. Even without the scalpers you wouldn't be able to get the steam frame yet
This is like saying that walking up to someone in a dark alley, pulling out a 9mm and robbing them is just filling the demand of the market of not getting shot in the face
But without the scalpers the market demand would be met to saturation by the original supplier. As it is some people are paying more for this thing because people who didn't want to use it bought it.
The market demand they are filling is cutting in line. Every time a scalper buys an item, a legitimate customer doesn't get it. So genuinely SOMEONE is not getting a steam frame because of a scalper. That's how it works. The steam frames being sold on ebay aren't just magically generated by scalpers, they are the result of someone else getting pushed out of line.
Supply isn't increasing because of them.
They’re not fulfilling a market demand, Valve intentionally underproduced Steam Frames to create temporary artificial scarcity (hype) and the scalpers are taking advantage of that. Supply & demand aren’t natural laws because humans control production levels. Scalpers are lowkey encouraged by Valve because they increase the perception of value/scarcity
This is some weird logic. How as a business could you know exactly how many of an item you need to produce and have in stock less than a week before you take orders? What happens to a business that produces lets say 1 million units but then when orders start they only sell 10k? The only way to solve this with your way of thinking is to do some kind of Kickstarter/early order before production.
These are some high level conspiracy theories if you seriously think this is how it works.
Report them all and give them fake offers for the lulz. Even better, when they actually ship, find the people selling them on Facebook and make them drive an hour away while you sit in your room laughing.
Offers count as purchases on eBay, though.
Huh. I may have to revise my strategy then lol
I wish eBay and other popular marketplaces would just enforce msrp or lower for certain categories new
if they enforced MSRP, then how the hell would places like Nvidia get away with selling above MSRP...
MSRP is bullshit anyways
I am only talking about person to person marketplaces
They will just still then on other sites
At least they will not be on eBay
Maximum 5% upsell with required receipt. Otherwise must be below MSRP.
In the US we need modifications to the first sale doctrine. I don't think it should be done away with all-together but, It should be forced like you said to be MSRP as the ceiling. They also need to codify that licenses to use and digital goods apply to the doctrine meaning that any digital good must have a capability to resell/transfer rights of. Because with everything becoming digital only, its making the entire doctrine useless.
Even AM hates scalpers
Fun "I Have No Mouth..." story. Daughter wanted to see the Digital Circus movie in theaters, which would include us going with and taking her. So she wanted us to watch the series too, otherwise we'd be watching the movie without the context. And I agreed, ticket purchases and watching, contingent that she get the context that's based on by reading Harlan Ellison first. Can't say she enjoyed it as much as wacky lolsorandom show... but I tried.
The fucking what movie? Why are stupid webseries turning into movies? Like the fucking skibidi toilet movie. You know, they turned Minecraft into a movie once. Only exists because it's Minecraft.
I'll say that the Digital Circus wasn't really my kind of show....
BUT, I do support indie creators, small studios reaching audiences and breaking barriers that previously only major studios could achieve. There's something very cool about a person going from making a youtube webseries to getting to nationwide theater screenings.
And, love/hate it, that's kind of what Digital Circus did.... it didn't need major studios thumb of approval to be funded and distributed. It funded itself and got connected directly to theaters without dealing with hollywood/studio/corpo gatekeeping money leeching focus groups.... just a creator making a space for a shared fan/community experience. And that's pretty cool.
Everything you said and it was a fantastic web series. Truly amazing what they were able to make.
Imagine having never seen good animation or storytelling outside of your TV
I mean how do you think, like, 99% of adult swim shows got on adult swim
Pro tip: if youre buying from a physical store, you can just take shit from their cart. They dont own it yet
You might have to fight them for it.
These people are crazy, I've seen videos where the poor sales clerks have to call the police on them multiple times because that's how aggressive they'll get.
How would you know if the person is a scalper
100 of the same item in the cart
Okay well you got me there
I recently got lucky and managed to pick up a Cafelat Robot (really hard to get manual espresso maker). It completely sold out in minutes. I paid $495 CAD. I then saw a local listing a few days later, someone was selling one BNIB for $950. It sold in a couple hours. I was so mad when I saw it sold.
I don't know who buys from scalpers anyway. Valve will make more.
I hope I can ruin a scalpers life one day
I am doing my part
Wait I thought the Steam Frame is sold to random people who registered for the purchase? And only one per person? So how do Scalpers purchase them in bulk?
70 ALTERNATIVE ACCOUTNS
OR it's just everyone ordering even if they don't want it and selling it after
Ways to buy in bulk aside, there will be people who just buy their one allowed Frame only to scalp it, just like people did with Steam Decks. Most scalpers are not big operations, just people who bought one in order to resell.
They don't... If they do, they had many multiple accounts with multiple addresses and payment methods, have actual play time on actual paid (not F2P) games and made a Steam purchase before 2026/04/26. They could be sitting on their accounts for a long while to be ready for this. Don't buy scalper stuff. Only purchase from Valve. Be patient. Used market an old headset if you're new to VR, they're cheap and work today.
I reported as many as I could under “suspected as fraudulent.” Nowhere can I find an option that says “Presale” is not allowed. I’m not that surprised since this is eBay.
It's because presale isn't actually against their policy. What is against their policy is someone putting an inventory up that they haven't confirmed they are going to have.
So like if they have the email from Valve saying "this is the timeframe you get this" and that timeframe is
moreless than than 40 days out, as long as they can confirm shipment within 40 days of the item listing it's allowed.I wonder if you get a new report option if the page has been active for more than 40 days, or if said issue requires a buyer to report them when they don't ship within 40
Being said, I think valve should crack down on the resale of their product on platforms like ebay, if they can find a listing that links to a steam account terminate future sales. With how overarching their system is they could likely cite Policy violation and close the entire account as well.
I assume it would be fairly easy to look for identical card numbers across the platform, or require the primary account on the device to be the account that purchased it for at least X amount of days having the system like how phone carriers do with carrier locking.
I wanna buy a home server so i sometimes check eBay and FUCKK SCALPERS they buy every computer, remove RAM and SSD ans then sell it again without them at the same price so i cannot afford anything anymore because i have to buy overpriced RAM, overpriced SSDs and over priced computers 🥹
Yeah this makes my blood boil. It's been happening for yearrss, long before the AIpocalypse. So many used/decommissioned computers on eBay that don't even have RAM. As for storage, there is somewhat of a "data sanitization" angle there, but seeing as how people put used disks up anyways, there is kind of no excuse to not leave them in after sanitizing them.
It's infuriating building a home lab in 2026.
Libs in my country often say - "Socialism heroically fights problems that don’t exist under any other system."
And I like to think about it each time there's a debate about shit like scalpers, billionaires, hedge funds, lobbying, etc.
Because under socialism, at least we were trying to overcome problems that weren't know to the capitalist societies. Under capitalism, we can only cope, because the system is designed around it's crippling problems and if they were eliminated, there would no longer be capitalism.
Joke aside. AM's hate speech is one of the hardest hate speeches I have ever seen.
Reminds me of that rant about the US south (or red states?). Haven’t seen that one in a while.
Crazy how the way the heros in that story "win the day" is by killing themselves. One character gets thwarted and is forced to live forever lol.
At least he won.
Do not look at the tcg scene
Riftbound t1 collectors set was set to drop for 350 usd, scalpers resold it for 6k
Pokemon is the worst tcg, no one plays the card game, it's literally cardboard collection simulator
Is there a lot of counterfeiting within TCG’s? I always wondered about this
For pokemon yea. I'm sure you can find counterfeits for any other tcg but pokemon is the most popular
Lol those are the msrp prices I'm Canada.....
Given that Steam Frame is ARM64, and runs a rooted version of Linux, I wonder how long until a homebrew version crops up. I hope people are playing with this idea.
Like you mean homebrew version as in hardware? that is already possible.
There is nothing stopping anyone from making an OpenXR compatible headset that runs linux, the steam frame is one example of this but its not like the steam frame invented this, its just really hard.
Well, it probably wouldn't have this much demand if it ran Solaris with no root password set on SPARC...
Anyways, you can hotglue a computer to a Valve Index then make it run Monado with WlxOverlay. I don't know if it can run without a monitor, I guess you will have to try it and see, or just make a fake software monitor.
I used to hate them, now I just find another hobby
The companies selling multiple to one customer and allowing this are the ones to blame. Screw the scalpers too, but we should be angry with them as well I think.
I mean it's basic economics. The real solution is for companies to price them correctly in the first place. You can also have a lottery, but the current state is silly.
Scalpers and scammers deserve to be boiled alive by the samurai.
This is not rage bait… I’m being sincere here… I beat RDR1&2… wasted hours in other compelling games… and then I realized… what if I put my body into bizarre situations and then treat it like a game…
What is the most compelling vr we will see… basically having the ability to control our game critter the way we can control our own body.
Our body, in a real environment, and our imagination…
Nothing beats it.
Honestly… respond the high console prices with indifference and play the dating sim where when you score you seriously score.
End of lecture.
Cool story bro
I’m actualy kind of delighted not to see -100 downvotes etc. I think there’s hope.
Good for you
There are so many brilliant opportunities to direct your hate to, and you waste it on people who got more lucky than you in consumerism? Amateurs. *laughs an evil black metal laugh*
What I'm hearing is that you have a limited capacity of hatred and have to ration it, as opposed to normal people just hating all of the things they deem hate-worthy
My limit is not my hate, but time. Can't hate for more than 24 hours, no matter what. I hate that.