Man, this is such a trap. People see an ad for Tuta and think they have finally won the privacy game. They jump from Gmail to Tuta like it is some kind of digital nirvana but honestly it's just trading one master for another. It’s an improvement, sure. Moving from a glass house into a bunker definitely shrinks your attack surface but you are still handing the keys over to a single company. They own the bunker so they actually control everything. If you want real sovereignty? You gotta go deeper than that. Go towards self hosting or actual decentralized protocols where YOU hold the keys and nothing else. Otherwise you are just a prisoner in a slightly more secure cell.
You are totally misjudging this! Honestly you are probably just thinking about the absolute nightmare of manually configuring every single little thing like SMTP and SPF back in the day which was a massive headache. But that is not how it works anymore. I have been self hosting my email for over ten years using mail in a box and it is basically zero maintenance once it is up and running. These modern stacks use abstraction layers to handle all the annoying stuff so you do not have to be a full time sysadmin just to get through the day. It is not some impossible task where you are stuck with Tuta or Proton because you can definitely escape those silos if you use the right stack instead of trying to build every single layer from scratch.
It still requires you to maintain the entire server infrastructure. Sure if you already have your server up and running either way then spinning up another docker container or whatever else you use is pretty fast to do. But building and, more importantly, properly securing a server stack just for mail is a lot of work for little benefit. And if it stops working for whatever reason you won't even notice it since Emails just get send into the void and are forever lost there.
If you really want to go the extra mile to be more independent from big services, then buying a domain and using that with something like tuta is enough. You can still jump ship whenever you like without the workload of server maintenance.
I think this is a very priveleged take if we actually care about advocating for digital sovereignty.
In a perfect world, sure, build and manage a server with self hosted infrastructure. In reality people care about this stuff rarely actually have the money, time, skills or drive to manage a project like that confidently.
Its normal for people to want to allocate management of their services to a provider with trust to circumvent this.
For actualnconstructive advice to the people who can't do this: Try looking up to see if their are any nonprofit email hosting services in your country - they exist but usually don't do marketing and are often built on strong values. If not I really think using services like Tuta, proton, etc is leaps forward for your safety, privacy and ethics compared to Google, Microsoft, etc.
Those are low key violations too. You just wait. Social scores parsed by bad faith palantir type organizations used secretly against us in ways we won't be able to be sure of or challenge, losing one that job, that loan, getting worse treatment from authorities. Later even being used to send paramilitary thugs to target one even. Paramilitary as in like pround boys types under the wing of the party. Ice is not that, they are a security service, I don't care how many times it's repeated it doesn't make it correct.
Can I install a camera in your bedroom? One above your couch so I can read the things you type? One in the toilet? No? But you have nothing to hide you said...?
My iphone really doesn't like that I have aluminum tape on the cameras and a water resistant case that I have to essentially shove in my mouth and use speaker by my ear to use it.
Data fabrication is its own risk in this. Assuming we live in a society where a govt can argue it has all this information, they could make shit up & conjure the “evidence” to support their version. Because the apparatus is established as “we know everything & can uncover the ‘truth’”, they could falsify files, they could plant files on devices, and they could edit information at a grander scale than in the past. Flock’s financial backing is connected to a company that makes money from footage editing. If they establish, “Flock shows footage of reality,” while being able to manipulate it, then we’re all a deepfake away from being accused of shit we didn’t do. That’s like Black Mirror episode 1.
The big thing that people always seem to forget is that there also doesn't need to be a reason. People are weird and do weird things. To others, these weird actions are often interpreted as having malicious intent.
Crimes will be manufactured. Enemies will be created. Just look at ICE.
On social media, I see ragebaiting posts and it occurred to me that they are honeypots in disguise. If I say too much, it could be used against me, as I plan to join a union.
It is exactly what Instagram is, everyone is incriminating themselves with all kind of hateful baits. There will be a day when they will use that data accordingly.
surveillance is about datamining, and profiling to manipulate, control, and market. Not just market products and news but to lead the person profiled down a specific path.
we are about to have the control of our life and world view completely taken from us moreso than what was done with the analog methods of media marketing and later organic digital era which we are in the process of leaving.
it's really what every ancient culture warned us about. this is the false god. you don't need to be
You are trying to manipulate people by swaying their opinions online, you think it’s for a righteous cause and this case may be so, but do you not feel hypocritical posting on social media? You also happen to be giving away some data for free. But that isn’t bad because….
Thank you for your contribution. The email associated with user okokimup is more likely to interact with privacy related stories and ads. This is a great data point. One in a trillion, but still sellable.
This data is available to and now in a data bank owned by the corporations too? Y’all are more preoccupied with scoring tough guy wins online than thinking introspectively for just a moment. Doesn’t matter how it’s said, anything against your hive is just disparaged. So downvote me and move on with your day.
I did, then you replied. Why be offended? I was quite neutral pointing out some really glaring contradictions here.
Big corporations want to thank you as well for contributing more data that is linked to your verified email account like the other anti data HEROES dunking on me.
I'm a lot more comfortable with people knowing what my genitals look like than most people are and yet even I draw the line well before insurers or law enforcement get a peek
Saw this concept in another thread. Paraphrasing and adding my own stuff.
Two words: dynamic pricing. Every company will start setting prices, using your tailored data, to extract the maximum amount of revenue from you that they can. And i guarantee, it won’t be cheaper than you pay now.
That, and even if you're not considered part of whatever targeted group the current regime hates today, it doesn't mean they won't invent a new targeted group tomorrow that just so happens to include you.
This is before getting into all the false positive "identifications" of "criminal behavior" aimed at demonstrably innocent people e.g. as is already happening with the current Flock camera debacle.
No government has any legitimate reason to surveil its own citizens, and if any such excuse is generated to justify it in the beginning it is guaranteed to devolve into a tool of oppression afterwards. Once you give up rights there is no reality in which any government will voluntarily give them back.
Filing accident reports, my contact information is made public record, and lawyers and shady chiropractors line up to try to fleece me. Yes, I have something to hide, or rather, someone to hide from.
When I hear that sort of thing from Google CEOs or the like, I wish I could be there to ask them if that means they'd be cool with me sitting in on their therapy sessions or at least having access to their therapist's notes after the fact. If they don't want me or the world at large reading that stuff, I'd have to assume it's because they're a violent paedophile or something? Why else would they want to keep it private? Paedophilic tax dodgers and terrorists are the only ones who want privacy after all.
Also, lol that this is posted to Lemmy, the least-private social media platform I can think of.
Found the president's lemmy front man's account! /s But that is how they operate, they don't trust anyone they don't have dirt on. Just like the Borgia pope.
I would argue that privacy, at least in the modern sense of controlling access to personal information, is a relatively new concept.
Before the internet and the widespread digitization of information, keeping something private was comparatively straightforward. Information was scattered across paper records, filing cabinets, and individual institutions. A person or company generally had to make a deliberate effort to obtain that information. Today, computers and interconnected databases have changed the equation completely. With enough dedication, technical knowledge, and time, a single person can potentially uncover an enormous amount of information about someone.
In fact, some organizations have gone in the opposite direction and deliberately moved their most sensitive information onto older, isolated computer systems because modern interconnected systems create so many avenues for unauthorized access.
That said, I don't necessarily agree that everything listed in this meme should automatically be considered private information. I actually think there is a legitimate argument for greater transparency around things like wealth, relationship status, and political beliefs. If someone chooses to publicly announce their relationship on social media, for example, I'm not sure why that information should suddenly be considered inherently private. The same applies to political opinions: they only have political significance when people are willing to make them public.
The major exception, in my opinion, is information about a person's physical movements and location. Where someone lives, where they've been, and where they are at any given moment can have very real safety implications. And ironically, this is also one of the areas where governments and corporations are increasingly capable of tracking people regardless of whether those people want to be tracked.
So I think the real issue isn't that privacy itself is new. It's that technology has fundamentally changed what it means to keep something private.
While it might not be immediately apparent how that information will be used against us, it is far more dangerous than we can possibly imagine having this information in the secret data centers of oligarchs, on everyone, down to granular detail, not the least with computers and llm's able to parse the data better all the time.
Ie, social scores to be used secretly against us, micro targeting, and so forth. Information is power and silicon valley and the oligarchs have too much of it. They have to be stopped.
I have something to add about this meme. I got set a USCensus. It’s a special Census, not the mass mailer they do to all Citizens i feel so special. And it asks your name. It already knows your address…. It asks, if you sold your home TODAY, how much would you put it on the market for. How much are my property taxes, oh… ARE YOU GAY? Well.. they ask, what kind of person are you and if you are in a relationship with what sex is that person... and they have EVERYKIND of person there is to list…. They ask, what time do I leave for work, and how long is that commute. What is the address of my job.. and WHAT IS MY TITLE … How much I make, i can’t remember if it was before or after taxes… and then what is my commute home.. what time do i typically leave… what type of router do i have in my home. how many computers do I own. How many bathrooms does my home have. I’m surprised it didn’t ask me when I took a shit…. I think some of those things are private. I don’t want to answer them. I felt, if i don’t answer the census and throw it away, They will send an enumerator and we will have todo it in person, in my home, which they state they do on all of the warning letters they sent to my home if I didn’t comply and i would be fined. I felt if i lied, they would do the same, and I would still be fined. And if they have on META glasses, or some sort of recorder, now I’m being taped. I’d despise that. Answering these questions made me feel very uneasy. They know my patterns… I hate that. I filled this thing out a few months ago, and I’m still a wreck about it. Some background… I live in Minneapolis, This Special Census went out to a few cities in southern states….not here. I’m gay. I’m an essential worker.. a very unique one, very unique. I’m a civilian. I’m not MAGA. I have a passport and I travel enough to have had my picture taken enough times at the airport when DINGBAT what in charge of Homeland security. None of my neighbors got the USCensus.. I called and asked them and none of my co-workers that have my title got it either. Privacy is KING. There’s diff types of privacy.. you can purposely exploit yourself by being online, and get mad about your privacy rights, or you can be forced into or tricked into self exploiting, therefore your privacy has been taken.
Sure but I think since the cultural sensation that was The Office you basically can't start sentences with "false" anymore if you want to be taken seriously and the association with Dwight is really not going to do the privacy discussions any favours.
This is the futures y’all truly deserve. Sucks I have to be here.
I didn’t have Facebook, I didn’t have twitter, I didn’t have insta. I didn’t have any of that soul of society harvesting shit. You did. You most likely still do. Then you shove this hypocritical “omg they are taking my data” bs??? Sorry, it’s too much.
So yes. Everyone crying about me pointing out their hypocrisy, if they stopped posting their useless thoughts online 35 years ago, it would’ve made today impossible.
I have a couple of questions. First, I don't fully follow your main argument. What is too much? Where it's the hypocrisy? Can you explain what is is you're seeing, that is making you feel enough pain to be posting here in this way?
Second, how were things in your time, as you were growing up? How was the internet like?
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Too many people are apathetic about privacy. It is like the voting problem but 100x worse.
Man, this is such a trap. People see an ad for Tuta and think they have finally won the privacy game. They jump from Gmail to Tuta like it is some kind of digital nirvana but honestly it's just trading one master for another. It’s an improvement, sure. Moving from a glass house into a bunker definitely shrinks your attack surface but you are still handing the keys over to a single company. They own the bunker so they actually control everything. If you want real sovereignty? You gotta go deeper than that. Go towards self hosting or actual decentralized protocols where YOU hold the keys and nothing else. Otherwise you are just a prisoner in a slightly more secure cell.
Okay, I'm sorry, but while I sorta agree with you
Such a horrible idea for email. Here's a nice talk outlining how horrible it is to host your own email these days.
Great for chat and many other things, but you can't escape email in today's world. You'll still need it.
Not sure what a good solution is though, since Tuta and Proton aren't exactly great either.
You are totally misjudging this! Honestly you are probably just thinking about the absolute nightmare of manually configuring every single little thing like SMTP and SPF back in the day which was a massive headache. But that is not how it works anymore. I have been self hosting my email for over ten years using mail in a box and it is basically zero maintenance once it is up and running. These modern stacks use abstraction layers to handle all the annoying stuff so you do not have to be a full time sysadmin just to get through the day. It is not some impossible task where you are stuck with Tuta or Proton because you can definitely escape those silos if you use the right stack instead of trying to build every single layer from scratch.
It still requires you to maintain the entire server infrastructure. Sure if you already have your server up and running either way then spinning up another docker container or whatever else you use is pretty fast to do. But building and, more importantly, properly securing a server stack just for mail is a lot of work for little benefit. And if it stops working for whatever reason you won't even notice it since Emails just get send into the void and are forever lost there.
If you really want to go the extra mile to be more independent from big services, then buying a domain and using that with something like tuta is enough. You can still jump ship whenever you like without the workload of server maintenance.
I think this is a very priveleged take if we actually care about advocating for digital sovereignty.
In a perfect world, sure, build and manage a server with self hosted infrastructure. In reality people care about this stuff rarely actually have the money, time, skills or drive to manage a project like that confidently.
Its normal for people to want to allocate management of their services to a provider with trust to circumvent this.
For actualnconstructive advice to the people who can't do this: Try looking up to see if their are any nonprofit email hosting services in your country - they exist but usually don't do marketing and are often built on strong values. If not I really think using services like Tuta, proton, etc is leaps forward for your safety, privacy and ethics compared to Google, Microsoft, etc.
Tuta is a great company and their social media game is fire! I'm using their email and calendar app as a replacement for Gmail and Google Calendar.
How alternative medicine advocates target people right after diagnosed cancer
How people who just lost their loved ones gets menorial service ads
There's legit moments you become emotionally vulnerable and if they knew they'll definitely prey on you
Those are low key violations too. You just wait. Social scores parsed by bad faith palantir type organizations used secretly against us in ways we won't be able to be sure of or challenge, losing one that job, that loan, getting worse treatment from authorities. Later even being used to send paramilitary thugs to target one even. Paramilitary as in like pround boys types under the wing of the party. Ice is not that, they are a security service, I don't care how many times it's repeated it doesn't make it correct.
Can I install a camera in your bedroom? One above your couch so I can read the things you type? One in the toilet? No? But you have nothing to hide you said...?
"So when can we put cameras in your bedroom and bathroom?"
"why do you wear clothes?"
“why do you lock your phone?”
"Why do you have a lock on your bathroom door?"
Why do you even HAVE a door?
Why do you have walls?
Depends on what time of year it is.
And if you are with someone special...
With IR and RF technology the way that it is, you might as well not be wearing anything in the eyes of the tech spooks behind the panopticon...
Tell me your card & bank account details
Also give me your mother's phone number
And home address
I too want op's mothers number
”We’ll install an extra door to your bedroom from the outside and write ’For police use only’ for YOUR PROTECTION”
Also it has a shoddy lock
"I can't shit unless someone is watching!"
Slow down, we’re talking privacy. No kink shaming.
People carry their phones to both.
My iphone really doesn't like that I have aluminum tape on the cameras and a water resistant case that I have to essentially shove in my mouth and use speaker by my ear to use it.
Do you have a smart-tv in one of them? Or a rumbla? Maybe there are cameras already.
Dyson's toothbrush camera was never for your mouth
Toothbrush cameras?
https://www.dyson.com/discover/news/latest/introducing-camerajet
Data fabrication is its own risk in this. Assuming we live in a society where a govt can argue it has all this information, they could make shit up & conjure the “evidence” to support their version. Because the apparatus is established as “we know everything & can uncover the ‘truth’”, they could falsify files, they could plant files on devices, and they could edit information at a grander scale than in the past. Flock’s financial backing is connected to a company that makes money from footage editing. If they establish, “Flock shows footage of reality,” while being able to manipulate it, then we’re all a deepfake away from being accused of shit we didn’t do. That’s like Black Mirror episode 1.
They do that anyway
People have been murdered for wearing glasses, please believe your minor social associations and opinions and thoughts can get you killed
The big thing that people always seem to forget is that there also doesn't need to be a reason. People are weird and do weird things. To others, these weird actions are often interpreted as having malicious intent.
Crimes will be manufactured. Enemies will be created. Just look at ICE.
Those still have reasons, theyre just not usually as direct.
There might be motivation or bias, but not reason.
Reason and a reason are different things.
Pol Pot.
On social media, I see ragebaiting posts and it occurred to me that they are honeypots in disguise. If I say too much, it could be used against me, as I plan to join a union.
talks into earpiece You hear that, boys? It's oppression time! hoots with glee like Alex's droogs in A Clockwork Orange
It is exactly what Instagram is, everyone is incriminating themselves with all kind of hateful baits. There will be a day when they will use that data accordingly.
I'm on Instagram mainly for photography, but i still keep being bombarded by posts that are shallow and vapid and ragebaiting.
That's a bold statement from the company without any external security audit and which doesn't allow you to use PGP.
surveillance is about datamining, and profiling to manipulate, control, and market. Not just market products and news but to lead the person profiled down a specific path.
we are about to have the control of our life and world view completely taken from us moreso than what was done with the analog methods of media marketing and later organic digital era which we are in the process of leaving.
it's really what every ancient culture warned us about. this is the false god. you don't need to be
You are trying to manipulate people by swaying their opinions online, you think it’s for a righteous cause and this case may be so, but do you not feel hypocritical posting on social media? You also happen to be giving away some data for free. But that isn’t bad because….
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Thank you for your contribution. The email associated with user okokimup is more likely to interact with privacy related stories and ads. This is a great data point. One in a trillion, but still sellable.
Because this data doesn't end up owned by a corporation.
It's now freely available to anyone who has means to read it.
Because people need to communicate in order to build community, and leaving the online space to the corporations is stupid.
This data is available to and now in a data bank owned by the corporations too? Y’all are more preoccupied with scoring tough guy wins online than thinking introspectively for just a moment. Doesn’t matter how it’s said, anything against your hive is just disparaged. So downvote me and move on with your day.
COOL MAN, YOU MOVE ON WITH YOUR DAY.
I did, then you replied. Why be offended? I was quite neutral pointing out some really glaring contradictions here.
Big corporations want to thank you as well for contributing more data that is linked to your verified email account like the other anti data HEROES dunking on me.
THANK YOU O7
Cringetastic username checks out 🙄
Sorry you feel so awful about it. I’ll see you in Valhalla. ✊🏽
There are only two ways in Valhalla. Which one yiu choose ? 🤣
I'm a lot more comfortable with people knowing what my genitals look like than most people are and yet even I draw the line well before insurers or law enforcement get a peek
Aye aye Cap'n! 🫡
There are even some body-parts of mine, that I am ordered — by the law itself — to hide in public.!!!1
You mean you are not a fan of little Richard and Fanny? That is terrible! Do not speak to me again!
😢
We all know what you're doing in the bathroom, but that doesn't mean you don't deserve the privacy to do it.
Exactly! I may have nothing to hide, but I do have many things to keep private thatb are nobody's business but my own.
Privacy, anonymity, and "secrets" may be related but aren't always the same thing.
You have social security and credit card numbers, and porn searches you sick fucking perverted freak.
I’m thankfully vanilla as hell. If my porn search history were to be leaked, they’d be like, “that’s it?”
You don't have any kinks?! What a weirdo
Their kink is not having a kink. The whelming normality really gets them going. Sickening.
Saw this concept in another thread. Paraphrasing and adding my own stuff.
Two words: dynamic pricing. Every company will start setting prices, using your tailored data, to extract the maximum amount of revenue from you that they can. And i guarantee, it won’t be cheaper than you pay now.
That, and even if you're not considered part of whatever targeted group the current regime hates today, it doesn't mean they won't invent a new targeted group tomorrow that just so happens to include you.
This is before getting into all the false positive "identifications" of "criminal behavior" aimed at demonstrably innocent people e.g. as is already happening with the current Flock camera debacle.
No government has any legitimate reason to surveil its own citizens, and if any such excuse is generated to justify it in the beginning it is guaranteed to devolve into a tool of oppression afterwards. Once you give up rights there is no reality in which any government will voluntarily give them back.
Filing accident reports, my contact information is made public record, and lawyers and shady chiropractors line up to try to fleece me. Yes, I have something to hide, or rather, someone to hide from.
Yeah no I really don't have relationship data lol
no data is also data, they love targeting singles
There are several whole ecosystems dedicated to it.
So create a fake one, just for fun for them to read .aybe later it will turn out to the bestseller book🤣
When I hear that sort of thing from Google CEOs or the like, I wish I could be there to ask them if that means they'd be cool with me sitting in on their therapy sessions or at least having access to their therapist's notes after the fact. If they don't want me or the world at large reading that stuff, I'd have to assume it's because they're a violent paedophile or something? Why else would they want to keep it private? Paedophilic tax dodgers and terrorists are the only ones who want privacy after all.
Also, lol that this is posted to Lemmy, the least-private social media platform I can think of.
Why you say that Lemmy is least private social platform?
If you have nothing to hide, then how can I trust you?
Found the president's lemmy front man's account! /s But that is how they operate, they don't trust anyone they don't have dirt on. Just like the Borgia pope.
Protect yourself from the harmful manipulations of people who would know how you work better than you do.
I would argue that privacy, at least in the modern sense of controlling access to personal information, is a relatively new concept.
Before the internet and the widespread digitization of information, keeping something private was comparatively straightforward. Information was scattered across paper records, filing cabinets, and individual institutions. A person or company generally had to make a deliberate effort to obtain that information. Today, computers and interconnected databases have changed the equation completely. With enough dedication, technical knowledge, and time, a single person can potentially uncover an enormous amount of information about someone.
In fact, some organizations have gone in the opposite direction and deliberately moved their most sensitive information onto older, isolated computer systems because modern interconnected systems create so many avenues for unauthorized access.
That said, I don't necessarily agree that everything listed in this meme should automatically be considered private information. I actually think there is a legitimate argument for greater transparency around things like wealth, relationship status, and political beliefs. If someone chooses to publicly announce their relationship on social media, for example, I'm not sure why that information should suddenly be considered inherently private. The same applies to political opinions: they only have political significance when people are willing to make them public.
The major exception, in my opinion, is information about a person's physical movements and location. Where someone lives, where they've been, and where they are at any given moment can have very real safety implications. And ironically, this is also one of the areas where governments and corporations are increasingly capable of tracking people regardless of whether those people want to be tracked.
So I think the real issue isn't that privacy itself is new. It's that technology has fundamentally changed what it means to keep something private.
While it might not be immediately apparent how that information will be used against us, it is far more dangerous than we can possibly imagine having this information in the secret data centers of oligarchs, on everyone, down to granular detail, not the least with computers and llm's able to parse the data better all the time.
Ie, social scores to be used secretly against us, micro targeting, and so forth. Information is power and silicon valley and the oligarchs have too much of it. They have to be stopped.
I have something to add about this meme. I got set a USCensus. It’s a special Census, not the mass mailer they do to all Citizens i feel so special. And it asks your name. It already knows your address…. It asks, if you sold your home TODAY, how much would you put it on the market for. How much are my property taxes, oh… ARE YOU GAY? Well.. they ask, what kind of person are you and if you are in a relationship with what sex is that person... and they have EVERYKIND of person there is to list…. They ask, what time do I leave for work, and how long is that commute. What is the address of my job.. and WHAT IS MY TITLE … How much I make, i can’t remember if it was before or after taxes… and then what is my commute home.. what time do i typically leave… what type of router do i have in my home. how many computers do I own. How many bathrooms does my home have. I’m surprised it didn’t ask me when I took a shit…. I think some of those things are private. I don’t want to answer them. I felt, if i don’t answer the census and throw it away, They will send an enumerator and we will have todo it in person, in my home, which they state they do on all of the warning letters they sent to my home if I didn’t comply and i would be fined. I felt if i lied, they would do the same, and I would still be fined. And if they have on META glasses, or some sort of recorder, now I’m being taped. I’d despise that. Answering these questions made me feel very uneasy. They know my patterns… I hate that. I filled this thing out a few months ago, and I’m still a wreck about it. Some background… I live in Minneapolis, This Special Census went out to a few cities in southern states….not here. I’m gay. I’m an essential worker.. a very unique one, very unique. I’m a civilian. I’m not MAGA. I have a passport and I travel enough to have had my picture taken enough times at the airport when DINGBAT what in charge of Homeland security. None of my neighbors got the USCensus.. I called and asked them and none of my co-workers that have my title got it either. Privacy is KING. There’s diff types of privacy.. you can purposely exploit yourself by being online, and get mad about your privacy rights, or you can be forced into or tricked into self exploiting, therefore your privacy has been taken.
You have your body count
You have addresses of people you stalk
You have locations where you have buried your enemies
If anything, this can contribute to the years served. Believe me when I say that 7 years vs 15 is a massive difference!
Source
Sure but I think since the cultural sensation that was The Office you basically can't start sentences with "false" anymore if you want to be taken seriously and the association with Dwight is really not going to do the privacy discussions any favours.
They even know my dick size. Nothing is off limits.
Hmmmmm... I do wonder how they came to be in possession of that information. Not judging, just wondering
The irony of constantly adding your anti data posts to your own data profile.
They are gonna start targeting you with ads for aluminum foil!
Actually I’m pretty sure they are manipulating you right now to be more paranoid! What do we do?! Ahhh! Shut off all the devices right the fuck now!!!
Do you have an actual point you want to say, or are you content with mocking people and stirring things up?
Stop posting online if this is your stance on privacy.
Do you actually want the people with this (anti-data-collection) opinion, to stop posting online? Why?
This is the futures y’all truly deserve. Sucks I have to be here.
I didn’t have Facebook, I didn’t have twitter, I didn’t have insta. I didn’t have any of that soul of society harvesting shit. You did. You most likely still do. Then you shove this hypocritical “omg they are taking my data” bs??? Sorry, it’s too much.
So yes. Everyone crying about me pointing out their hypocrisy, if they stopped posting their useless thoughts online 35 years ago, it would’ve made today impossible.
I have a couple of questions. First, I don't fully follow your main argument. What is too much? Where it's the hypocrisy? Can you explain what is is you're seeing, that is making you feel enough pain to be posting here in this way?
Second, how were things in your time, as you were growing up? How was the internet like?
Only solution is to block all ads I guess