America 'not at war' with Canada, insists U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent
United States Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent insisted his country is "not at war" with Canada, then proceeded to mock the threat Canada could pose to his country with "submarines from the Edmonton mall."
The secretary also suggested Prime Minister Mark Carney was to blame for the current "political shouting match" between the two countries because keeping the fight alive is good for his poll numbers.
Bessent made the remarks Monday in an interview with the U.S. cable news network CNBC, where he was asked if his country is now in a trade war with Canada.
"Well, I don't think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that's 13 times larger than you are," he said.
"I mean we're not at war with Canada. How are we going to be at war with Canada? What, are they going to take their two submarines from the Edmonton mall and sic them on us?"
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Yeah because it would be the most embarrassing defeat in history. For the USA
When we beat them again!
Time to consult the Geneva Checklist
Canada is more of threat to maga than they think
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If it makes you feel better, please understand that most of us are ready deeply embarrased.
Your white house burned down long before modern submarines existed dude.. sit down.
Trump has already started the tear down for us, it would not be as glorious this time but seeing a bunch of piss drunk Canadians do it again would be fun.
The Canadian military did an analysis of how to fight a war with America. The study's conclusion was the most devastating and effective strategy is to sit back and watch them destroy themselves.
Best we can do for ourselves is to unplug from their systems.
If we're thinking of the same study, that was because the US attempting to invade canada would be such a drastically unpopular move that it would kick off a US civil war in response. Also Canada wasn't planning to sit back, but to not engage directly / do a guerilla for the actual invasion while supporting the pro-canada/sanity side with intelligence and materiel.
It was never "watch them destroy themselves", the last damn thing Canada wants is a gutted former superpower with an uncertain political outlook next door.
Makes sense. You don't directly attack something 10 times your size, there's plenty of other ways to fuck it up good and proper. Even neanderthals figured that out.
The plan is to fuel the separatists in Alberta, then after a massive campaign to legitimize them annex part of Alberta under the guise of a referendum. After all, if they vote to join, it's democratic.
Read up on how they captured Hawaii. It doesn't have to be a shooting war and it doesn't have to be all of Canada.
We're talking about a very different study, but thank you!
I'm not talking about a study, which means you (hopefully) misunderstood my comment. But thank you!
Sorry; we are talking about a specific study done by the canadian armed forces - slightly different from what you're discussing. Said study did indeed address what you're describing however! One of the scenarios for the civil-war-triggering military action was the annexation/secession/alberta-ness, which would need to be backed by the US military (given that all but the southern edge would be a strategic nightmare to hold, especially when surrounded on three sides).
I'm not sure there's many parallels between hawaii and alberta, but I am super curious what you mean!
I seriously doubt that, at this point. They have gestapo shooting people in the street and only Minnesota really did anything about it.
I was just making a joke. :)
You're half right though. Charging in won't help, gotta let them get comfy and cocky, then you mess them up from behind.
It was assymetrixal warfare because any Canadian under US rule would join terrorist groups.
Not the US destroying themselves.
I don't trust the Ontarians I know who still keep a place in Florida and still plan to retire there, despite everything that has happened in recent years. The only things they pay any attention to are money and sunshine, and they won't stand up for anything.
Fuck those Boomers, sooner or later they will get carted off to a hospital and drained of all the money they hoarded.
They come back here for that.
The way the Tangerine Temper Tantrum views us, we're basically terrorists anyway, so not much gonna change there.
Yup, I wish autoshops used more canadian parts though.
What Canadian parts though? We willingly gave all our manufacturing of aftermarket parts to China.
Like motor oil and filters are sourced from American companies
The US took them from us. That's what the free trade agreements they forced on us were about.
Industrial base of US is all very close to border. Very active lobbying of those states to join as Canadian provinces should be made, making it clear that their entire base of wealth/employment is dependent on factories not burning. It's not enough for them to just complain that tariffs are inconvenient to them.
I'd gladly be there with a bottle of whiskey in one hand, my Tiger Torch in the other.
Just like the russia attacking Ukraine is not a war.
Special military operation - very special
You say special but I keep hearing « special »
Insulting your closest geographical and cultural ally is a very strong move for very strong and serious men to do. it's so strong. This is how you know they have strong policy. they kid around and made dumb jokes about a country we have fought modern wars side by side with.
If only it were insults. Threats and economic coercion.
We throw insults at each other all the time and it's fun. But then they suddenly escalated shit to threats of invasion and an economic war.
And petty shit like remaining lakes
From the administration who just launched a few hundred million dollars worth of tomahawks at Iran without saying they were at war with them either.
I really wish journalists with integrity were allowed to question these dorks. They would be eviscerated every follow up question.
"I don’t think you can be in a tit for tat with someone that’s 13 times larger than you are"
Agreed. Which is why we need asymmetric measures that make the USA hurt a lot more than us. Specifically, make their billionaires squeal like piggies. Tax US cloud services, streaming services, and app services. Cap the profits that their app stores can charge. Clamp down on what advertising is acceptable. Force them to open APIs.
Right to repair legislation. Force them to open app store competition.
Level the playing field for Canadian software companies and developers.
We can't compete with them dollar for dollar. So compete with them penny for dollar.
While they're at it, rename the Bald Eagle the Canada Eagle. We have more of them anyway.
We should just cut off all the electricity we send down there, all the gas we send down there (I know Smith will have a hissy fit but oh well), we should stop sending all the lumber down there, we should stop sending all the metal down there, we should stop sending all the uranium down there, and just to top it off we should stop sending all the potash down there and see how long until they starve.
We should send her down there and never let her come back
Let's just set our tariffs to 2x of theirs by definition: so every time they raise theirs ours instantly raise.
They won't be able to help it and eventually all trade would be impractical.
No we should just embargo everything they add a tariff to, they obviously do not need it, and we can sell it elsewhere.
Unpopular opinion but that would be disproportionate escalation.
Alberta sends crude oil south and then refined gasoline, jet fuel is sent north. We have a mutual dependency on each other. Causing too much pain for them or ourselves will not be good. A fuel crisis could be an excuse for Trump to declare a National Emergency with justification for even more escalation.
The rules of a trade war are to match their import tariffs with our import tariffs. Canada is targeting our counter tariffs at USA products mainly coming from purple/red states:
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2026/08/list-of-products-from-the-united-states-subject-to-counter-tariffs-effective-september-8-2026.html
Wild to say you're not afraid of an invasion from the only country that's ever successfully invaded the US. What can Canada do? Burn down the White House again.
Honestly you'd be doing us a favor kickstarting the complete rebuild that the white house will need when the orange turd leaves
they weren't at war with Venezuela either, but they did invade them, deposed their leader, and now control their oilfields…
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2026/01/mark-carney-turns-off-geolocation-on-phone-just-in-case/
Trump has started a shouting match with a dozen different countries. At some point it becomes obvious the US is the problem in international relations
It was obvious before his first term.
The United States has been issued its national report card. We got a "needs improvement" on the "plays well with others" grading category.
Russia would like a word....
Also, Fuck you, asshoke.
Is there a new organ I missed?
They're just pissed because they're losing JTF2.
Seriously Canadas special forces are literally the most elite in the world.
When they need it done with zero mistakes, they send JTF2.
It helps when you keep your soldiers fed.
Ya the situation on that carrier in Hormuz is beyond stupid.
But like, for context, JTF2 has broken multiple world record long distance sniper kills. One of many accolades.
Ah, we're 1000% at war with Canada then.
Who are you not at war with? (Including yourselves)
Not fighting everyone in the world is weakness! Fascists hate weakness!
This fits because deep down they hate themselves
One is a cockroach, the other is make believe.
The best thing everyone in Canada can do is just ignore these fuckwits and carry on working with the rest of the world. There's nothing to be gained by engaging. Even if they did agree to something, it woudn't be worth the paper it's printed on. So walk away and ignore them.
That's pretty much what I've been doing, I've just been ignoring them. Life is much less stressful when you don't pay attention to them.
I don't want us to be at war with the US, but I don't want us to be subjugated by them either. it's bad enough the Americans are subjugated by themselves
their militant psychopath leaders and their sycophants can choke on a bag of dicks though if they wouldn't enjoy it so much
Bessent causes more American suffering than any Canadian ever could.
More gaslighting
For decades the canadians have lorded over us, their geese show no respect for our customs and immigration laws, flouting them with impunity. I hear they are illegal voting for the democrat party.
Then all of this smoke sent down here?
Fuck that! Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the wall!
Please do. The geese and smoke will flow over it, while leaving us with some modest protection against the ingress of US troops.
Better keep the armoured moose cavalry brigades on standby near the front inn case though.
I was thinking we should just arm bears. Nothing like a grizzly with a rifle in its paws to make someone think twice about approaching.
It's AI but still done well about the Canadian Resistance Army. Bears, Moose, Wolverines and Beavers ready to fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SUAdxU9CDE
Visions of Yogi and BooBoo doing drive by shootings and moving loads of "picnic baskets" for the ranger.
I like the way you think. We should collaberate on an animated tv show to pitch. I know that is unlikely, but we really should.
Loose lips sink ships! Dude you are NEVER supposed to mention our armoured Moose cavalry divisions openly. If you say anything at all about our all beaver demolition squads I'm calling CSIS.
Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
We must unite against the Canuck threat, lest we be subjected to their beer.
Bessent has such a punch-able face.
Somehow the word "smug" took human form.
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I swear we will burn your fucking house down. Again. Bitch.
This asshole is a Republican and gay. That is it. He is Gay. He chooses to be a Republican.
We'll just wave some steaks in front of your troops 😉
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Come on Bessent, you still need to tell Secretary Kegsbreath to deploy the USS Lincoln against bond prices, before you talk about war with us.
Every word out of that man's mouth is a lie.
It's just an excursion.
That's not very reassuring given the US has been "not at war" with Iran for 6 months now
Our submarines often humiliate their battle groups by taking periscope pictures of their carriers.
Also, the American submarine commander courses have a whole bunch of rules in place to ensure they win when they are up against our frigates and helicopters.
Isn’t that was Russia is (or at least was saying for the longest time) saying?
It's a full on Grey Zone conflict
Alright, where is that to-do list. I swear, I filed it under G for Geneva when I immigrated...
Can I borrow G.O.R.T.’s machine please. Just for a little bit.
Dressed this up as "Carney just hates America/Trump for no reason". This started with absolutely a war on Canada with BS fentanyl excuse for tariffs and 51st state threats. Objective to destroy Canadian auto sector.
Canada has recognized its a war, but is not doing anything.
Ultimatum to abandon all auto tarriffs, or if Canadian auto sector is diminished, there will be 0 US market access to one of world's largest auto markets. Pressuring companies directly, and seizing factories when then don't immediately repay past subsidides. Closing Canadian market to US aviation, tractors, construction equipment. Far better value available elsewhere, including China. And no buying better value products is not dependency on evil. Forcing Canadians to buy expensive crap is dependency on evil.
It's only this utlimatum posture that results in US begging to restoring historical relationship by Monday.
Cancelling all US military equipment procurement is a cherry to get US begging for a deal, and to restore our positions in queues.
The other crazy boast from Bessent yesterday was "US bonds have outperformed G7 bonds" which is admitting that US/Trump has destroyed global economy. Pathetic loser vassals just smiled.