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There has never been a country in history who has been the world's lone superpower and top of the world order, that has worked so hard to destroy and reset the world order.

Generally when on top you try and keep it that way, but this current American administration just wants to burn it all to the ground.

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I don't get the hate for Wong?

I understand that labor is not left enough for fediverse users.

She's a diplomat though, she represents Australia to the world. It's not her job to say mean things to the people you don't like.

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Mr Rubio said the administration had been pressing more countries to "join our campaign by ending their funding and participation in this politicised and unaccountable court" — something that Australia would not do.

At least not until Israel tells us to.

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lemmy.zip

Penny Wong will watch the U.S. crush the ICC while uttering the quietest "don't" as they do. She is a coward and this is heartbreakingly unsurprising.

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ms.lanereply
lemmy.world

Just for reference to other countries-

Penny Wong voted against gay marriage multiple times. She is a lesbian and took advantage of our Gay Marriage laws the second they were introduced (long story short- we have Goldman Sachs to thank for those laws, yes really...) but voted against them multiple times.

Spineless doesn't even begin to cover it.

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ms.lanereply
lemmy.world

That's very specifically only counting after Malcolm Turnbull introduced the vote to parliament and forced both Labor and Liberals hands.

Besides which, do you want politicians to vote according bro their constituents wishes or according to their own interests?

The constituency was in full support of Gay Marriage, Penny ignored it for years since Labor is at their heart, the Catholic party.

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nord.pub

LOL.

It's the way I say it is because reasons and any contrary information is a fabrication.

Indeed.

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Look at the votes, everything after 2016, she was there and voted Yes, before that she was absent every single vote and her party that was present voted 100% No.

It's well known here that Labor are spineless.

Vote Greens. The party that voted 100% YES in every division.

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aussie.zone

Yep, it’s why I’ve been voting Green and Senators to either block dogshit or pass decent stuff

Unfortunately things overseas dictated our last election and gave Labor a huge majority. It’s shallow though.

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sh.itjust.works

Oh fuck off. We got away from bigoted crap in the Liberals. We still need to keep that festering mess out.

A massive backlash against Trump shit is a good thing. Dont try to spin this to some idiotic conclusionm

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aussie.zone

Yeah nah Labor are piss weak and dogshit, and saying that isn’t endorsing the Coalition.

Only thing more pissweak than a Labor politician is a Labor voter.

In this case the massive backlash gave us a worse government than we could have had. Labors cowards have sold us out. Shove your opinion up your arse.

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Why do Labor people always default to snarky retreating comments?

How the fuck do you know?

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nord.pub

As a diplomat, how would you like Wong to address this?

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lemmy.zip

Yeah nice try, Penny. I'm not giving you PR advice.

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nord.pub

I thought so. No answers just criticism because she didn't show up with a "Free Palestine" shirt.

I wonder how the foreign affairs minister from a liberal, national oor ON government would handle this?

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Embargoreply
lemmy.zip

Labor are not your mates, hey. Suggesting that Labor give a fuck about Palestine is repulsive.

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nord.pub

That's not what I suggested, nor what I asked.

How would you like our foreign affairs minister to address this with a global super power on whom we are heavily dependent as one of our closest allies ?

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You are playing the "Labor are epic legends" game though. Just because ON and LNP are ghouls doesn't make Labor suddenly wonderful and it is not a failure to be publicly critical of an ally. The closest they have come to criticising an ally who is actively committing genocide is officially acknowledging that Palestinians and their rubble exist.

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Penny could alleviate her RSI by making a macro to paste the words 'gravely concerned' into her letters.

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I hope they keep this energy up when someone else is in power.

If the US is gonna be the world police they should be extra subject to the rule of law, just like the local police.*

*Offer void in US

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Can we actually not have them as the world police? They've been pretty shite at it and actually very corrupt. Kinda like their own police are.

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aussie.zone

Not even, we can’t be a Vegemite higher if we’re lapdogging

It’s a national embarrassment.

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ms.lanereply
lemmy.world

We can't really do much else unless we want to start spending 25billion+ per year on a completely independent defense apparatus.

Unlike Canada who has NATO to fall back on, we have no one. We're not and won't ever be part of NATO (due to France).

Though right now is probably the best time to restart 'SEATO' - Japan wants slight separation from US and South Korea is now moving full speed toward it. There has never been a better time for us to start an alliance with a view of becoming less dependent on USA.

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SEATO as you put it would be fine with me.

I don’t think we are as alone as you say and I’m not sure if the French would be as hostile as you think. They still have interests in forming a strategic partnership in the Pacific and I think they understand what went down with AUKUS.

Whatever, but I’d rather we stood for something and opposed this and accepted the fallout that comes with it.

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We're not and won't ever be part of NATO (due to France).

Is France stopping Australia from moving to the North Atlantic?

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A world of fortresses, here we come.

Not that I don't get it

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