I want y'all to know I took a deep breath before writing this.
Writing AI prompts does not make someone an artist. Nobody is seriously contesting that, and nobody is claiming otherwise.
But you also can't just type, “Hey Grok, make me a 30-minute video recreating the entire Cell Saga,” and have a finished production magically appear. That's not how this works.
There is an actual pipeline involved. Multiple AI applications and other software, compositing, editing, sound design, music, voice acting, visual direction, continuity, revisions, and an enormous amount of human labor. Some of these projects involve hundreds of hours of actual work. The AI is a tool within that process; it isn't a magic button that produces a finished piece of media from a sentence.
And I know, I know, AI is the literal Antichrist around here. I get it. But this caricature of what people are actually doing with AI is becoming a massive misrepresentation of the technology.
It's getting irritating because I see this constantly now. The same joke, over and over, based on the assumption that someone typed a single sentence into an LLM and somehow produced an entire film, song, animation, or game.
At this point, I don't know if some of y'all are intentionally ignorant about what LLMs and generative AI actually do, or if you just enjoy reflexively hating the technology. Either way, the joke has run its course.
They actually do. I've seen this on AI chat bot sites. People won't allow people to read the prompt/personality of the bot because they get all butt hurt when someone just copys and pastes their "work" it's really cringe because it's a basic llm. It's not some flagship model or anything like that. It doesn't care, at all.
I recall a twitter thread that went around a while ago that had some Sloperator all pissed off because someone ‘stole’ his prompt, and that person’s Computer Rendered Artificial Picture got way more likes.
So, yes, the Sloperators get quite mad when someone uses the same prompt.
I'm tired of this constant fuckai spam. AI slop this, AI slop that. AI slop impacts me almost not at all, while the constant hate mongering by fuckai is getting on my nerve.
Not a SINGLE "AI artist" ever "looked at you like this". You are building a strawman as the target of your hate because you can't do anything else with it. Are we a society defined by hate now?
I'm really happy you're unaffected, and curious about your work and social groups that you've managed to avoid its negative impacts, but for a lot of us it's a daily barrage.
Almost everyone in my family keeps sending me AI generated documentary shit all the time. Problem is bets I can tell only 50% of it factual. Every single video in my family, I'm tired of debunking boss. And despite proving more than a few dozen times, that it's not 100% reliable data, they are content in accepting half truth and half lies for at least the half is true. And it's getting in my nerves. So yes fuck Gen AI artists. They can rot in hell.
I'm slightly less mad at pure art promoters at least they're not misibforming. But I'm still mad because art is human expression to me.
A human has to decide every single stroke of an image, some speak more than others, but everything is intentional. Mistakes and all.
With Gen AI there is no active decision making in most of the image, prompt was active decision sure, but the details, how each curl of hair should be, or how two colors should blend, 99% of prompter artists are not making that minute decisions. And that to me is just expressionnless. So I might hate them less, but they too can rot in hell.
Yeah with the images now you can just ask a computer to make any image so I feel like the novelty's gone, so why not just try to draw it yourself?
Even an amateur sketch sparks more joy, more connection, and tells me more about your passion than the most detailed most smoothest most super duper HDR style generated image.
In fact I would literally prefer a blank box with some plain alt text describing the image you would have generated. That way I can at least see what you the person were trying to communicate rather than what was statistically inserted based on association, temperature, and whatever advertising partners won the automated micro-bid for placement in the image.
Just because you had the chance to avoid it (or so you think at least) doesn't mean it's okay in any way, and society for for everyone is being durably impacted by all this fir the worst, demonstrably so. So yes, we'll keep complaining and denouncing it, sorry for your terrible inconvenience
But you're not. You don't do that. You're denouncing people, turning them into villains. You're not suggesting any sensible regulation (e.g. https://regulations.ai/). You're not attacking the root of the problem, neoliberal capitalism.
actually we do both, and they are both necessary. Reforming or revolutionizing the system is the root of it all, and in the meanwhile, calling out and demonizing people consciously using the most wasteful and unethical tools available is also good and important. People that keep using these generative AI tools while aware of their impacts deserve being made fun of and cast out of a society which they clearly don't care much about
A far more pragmatic and helpful approach would be to educate affected consumers on media literacy. The people sharing AI slop are the exact same ones who share fake news, fall for malware attachments, and fall for other scams even without AI. Tackling the root cause will handle the rest naturally. Hating on the tools or their creators is pure copium.
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I want y'all to know I took a deep breath before writing this.
Writing AI prompts does not make someone an artist. Nobody is seriously contesting that, and nobody is claiming otherwise.
But you also can't just type, “Hey Grok, make me a 30-minute video recreating the entire Cell Saga,” and have a finished production magically appear. That's not how this works.
There is an actual pipeline involved. Multiple AI applications and other software, compositing, editing, sound design, music, voice acting, visual direction, continuity, revisions, and an enormous amount of human labor. Some of these projects involve hundreds of hours of actual work. The AI is a tool within that process; it isn't a magic button that produces a finished piece of media from a sentence.
And I know, I know, AI is the literal Antichrist around here. I get it. But this caricature of what people are actually doing with AI is becoming a massive misrepresentation of the technology.
It's getting irritating because I see this constantly now. The same joke, over and over, based on the assumption that someone typed a single sentence into an LLM and somehow produced an entire film, song, animation, or game.
At this point, I don't know if some of y'all are intentionally ignorant about what LLMs and generative AI actually do, or if you just enjoy reflexively hating the technology. Either way, the joke has run its course.
It isn't funny anymore. It's just inaccurate.
Hey I write prompts for ai to write prompts that create art so I'm basically an art professor over here teaching new artists.
Do AI prompt "artists" get angry when other people steal their prompts?
They actually do. I've seen this on AI chat bot sites. People won't allow people to read the prompt/personality of the bot because they get all butt hurt when someone just copys and pastes their "work" it's really cringe because it's a basic llm. It's not some flagship model or anything like that. It doesn't care, at all.
They absolutely do and they have feuds about it, funniest shit ever. "That thief thieved my plan for thieving!"
I recall a twitter thread that went around a while ago that had some Sloperator all pissed off because someone ‘stole’ his prompt, and that person’s Computer Rendered Artificial Picture got way more likes.
So, yes, the Sloperators get quite mad when someone uses the same prompt.
I've been calling them sloppies
Outdated reference: Makin' sloppies!
Timeless reference: Fuck Rob Schneider
Some do, some don't
Oh you mean those people that instruct an ai computer to draw pictures for them?
But but con artists were always artists though
Namely the ones you hardly hear of.
I'm tired of this constant fuckai spam. AI slop this, AI slop that. AI slop impacts me almost not at all, while the constant hate mongering by fuckai is getting on my nerve.
Not a SINGLE "AI artist" ever "looked at you like this". You are building a strawman as the target of your hate because you can't do anything else with it. Are we a society defined by hate now?
Hide the sub. You don't have to see it.
if this was fuckAI 100%
If it was true 100%
This is just kinda... meh
my local fringe theater festival this year was plagued with AI slop posters and copy
I'm really happy you're unaffected, and curious about your work and social groups that you've managed to avoid its negative impacts, but for a lot of us it's a daily barrage.
Almost everyone in my family keeps sending me AI generated documentary shit all the time. Problem is bets I can tell only 50% of it factual. Every single video in my family, I'm tired of debunking boss. And despite proving more than a few dozen times, that it's not 100% reliable data, they are content in accepting half truth and half lies for at least the half is true. And it's getting in my nerves. So yes fuck Gen AI artists. They can rot in hell.
I'm slightly less mad at pure art promoters at least they're not misibforming. But I'm still mad because art is human expression to me. A human has to decide every single stroke of an image, some speak more than others, but everything is intentional. Mistakes and all.
With Gen AI there is no active decision making in most of the image, prompt was active decision sure, but the details, how each curl of hair should be, or how two colors should blend, 99% of prompter artists are not making that minute decisions. And that to me is just expressionnless. So I might hate them less, but they too can rot in hell.
Yeah with the images now you can just ask a computer to make any image so I feel like the novelty's gone, so why not just try to draw it yourself?
Even an amateur sketch sparks more joy, more connection, and tells me more about your passion than the most detailed most smoothest most super duper HDR style generated image.
In fact I would literally prefer a blank box with some plain alt text describing the image you would have generated. That way I can at least see what you the person were trying to communicate rather than what was statistically inserted based on association, temperature, and whatever advertising partners won the automated micro-bid for placement in the image.
See my other comment. You're just pushing hate against people instead of meaningful regulations.
I push a lot of things, but thanks I'll check it out
More like all turd ego 🤪
Just because you had the chance to avoid it (or so you think at least) doesn't mean it's okay in any way, and society for for everyone is being durably impacted by all this fir the worst, demonstrably so. So yes, we'll keep complaining and denouncing it, sorry for your terrible inconvenience
But you're not. You don't do that. You're denouncing people, turning them into villains. You're not suggesting any sensible regulation (e.g. https://regulations.ai/). You're not attacking the root of the problem, neoliberal capitalism.
All you're doing is spraying shit into the ether.
actually we do both, and they are both necessary. Reforming or revolutionizing the system is the root of it all, and in the meanwhile, calling out and demonizing people consciously using the most wasteful and unethical tools available is also good and important. People that keep using these generative AI tools while aware of their impacts deserve being made fun of and cast out of a society which they clearly don't care much about
A far more pragmatic and helpful approach would be to educate affected consumers on media literacy. The people sharing AI slop are the exact same ones who share fake news, fall for malware attachments, and fall for other scams even without AI. Tackling the root cause will handle the rest naturally. Hating on the tools or their creators is pure copium.
Nah, they did that to themselves