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"Somehow"

I don't know guys. Do you think we could get to the bottom of this?

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Unfortunately these weren't the types of yachts they were going after. They were, AFAIK, going for yachts under 50ft. I've known of people who have a 40ft boat as their home, so these are not the same type of people as the billionaires on super yachts

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quokk.au

It’s not “somehow” - the real economy is tanking precisely because the oligarchs have got so efficient at skimming the top off.

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bstixreply
feddit.dk

Skimming the top, yeah, but the "top" is 99.99%.

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They'd probably quote that and portray it as you saying 99.99% of people are in the "top" now.

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lemmy.world

The suffering of millions is directly proportional to the wealth of the ultrawealthy. These things are not tangentially related. They are direct consequences of one another.

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Jimbelreply
lemmy.world

Yep. People can only be wealthy if the wealth is not distributed evenly.

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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

That is not true. That is the Zero Sum Game Theory they're playing where one party takes all. What we need is to think more along the lines of Positive Sum, where all parties can win. Otherwise we're just perpetuating a cycle of false scarcity and hoarding.

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The problem is that the sum is positive, limited (with changing limits), and unknown. Everyone can benefit, but you can't have everyone do better you still get everything you could possibly want. But you can get everything you could possibly want by keeping others from having enough, and since you can't know the limit you can't easily be held accountable

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And also get involved in local activism. Do something in your community. Elections alone won't fix things. Vote for the least worst, but make that a small part of your political life.

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It's so interesting that people can pretty easily be sold on the idea of starting a war that will kills tens of thousands of people based on geography that won't really change much, but if you propose killing far fewer people in a move that will improve the quality of life for the majority of people on the planet suddenly you're a monster.

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I'd prefer a worse fate for them.

Say, working a "9-5" grind until they die like the rest of us to contribute to the society they live in instead of leeching from it.

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Then stop. There's plenty of us that feel the same. Our community needs more people.

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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

Is there a yacht tracking site like the ones people have used to track private planes?

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There are a number of sites that do this with naval transponders (an example of one). Generally, I believe it’s expected that civilian vessels have their transponders engaged (especially in national waters), though I’m not sure there are any strict requirements (or even realistic enforcement mechanisms) once one reaches international waters.

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piefed.zip

"Somehow" as if it's some great mystery and not because the 1% are siphoning off a bigger and bigger portion of the world's wealth. All to use for their own amusement while recklessly destroying the planet and sabotaging any attempts to do anything about it.

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They’ll run out of food and fresh water at some point. And have to come close enough for a drone firebombing or 2.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

If this happens, they better be damn sure the workers on the yacht have been paid and treated incredibly generously. It's not like these yachts are actually operated by the owners, and the crew are part of the working class.

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That's a bold hypothesis. Maybe we should test it, for science.

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lemmy.today

thier buying yachts like they are art pieces, its likely also laundering scheme.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

I’m pretty sure all tagged are $300 million dollars, so that they can be traded at any time for that amount. They are just floating $300m bills.

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they will probably gift one to trump eventually, remember that 400mil qatari plane that was too costly to maintain, and now cost 1.2bn to retrofit. probably give CLARENCE thomas a yacht, since he thinks epitome of being rich is a expensive RV.

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How odd. Its almost as if the insanely wealthy are getting richer at the expense of everyone else. Not to worry, they earned and deserve it through knuckling down. It'll trickle down anyway. It's not their fault. If anything it's the brown people risking their lives on unseaworthy craft that are to blame for everything being so expensive.

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lemmy.world

Anytime now the trickle down is gonna start, trust /s

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kestrel7_7reply
lemmy.world

I live in Seattle. We have North America’s largest superyacht facility here: Delta Marine. Their starting pay ($22/hr) is less than the local burger place, Dick’s Drive In ($23/hr), and I swear to god I am not making any of this up.

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This makes totally sense. Why should the workers in the field of work Which caters to people, who became rich by exploiting the working class, not also exploit the working class.

So clearly the solution is to guillotine billionaires become an exploiter yourself.

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It's getting close to the point that the only thing that needs to be tricking down, is blood. We'll worry about the money after that. There should be plenty of leftover money with nobody to use it anymore. We can put it to good use.

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It's odd how this particular multibillionaire often seems to be given a pass, just because he once left Microsoft to head up a company that made some good games.

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lemmy.world

At first I saw that among his fleet of 6 ships, that he has a research vessel and a hospital vessel. I thought, "Ok, funding research and a fucking full on floating hospital that he can send to disasters and places in need. That would actually be pretty fucking cool."

But, then I kept reading "a full-fledged hospital, serving as a safeguard for the cruising billionaire during the COVID-19 pandemic". 🤦

It's a "support" vessel that follows his main yacht around in case he needs medical care.

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He's create a fleet that he, his family, and his friends can escape to when the revolution comes, and Sociopathic Oligarch families start losing their heads.

He's not the only one. When this is over, we will task a military outfit to hunt down superyachts, arrest the occupants, confiscate the yachts, or destroy them if they resist. With satellites, they shouldn't be too hard to find.

I know Lemmy loves him, but if he's got fleet of superyachts, he's part of the problem.

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Krelis_reply
sh.itjust.works

It should be pointed out he actually now owns Oceanco, the megayacht building company mentioned throughout that article

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And to think it's the Rainbow Warrior that got mined and sunk

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fedia.io

Tax their fucking wealth. We should be voting en masse for wealth taxes. They are just social parasites that extract wealth from the rest of the population while killing it. ![email protected]

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lemmy.world

Ukraine has gotten pretty good at flying drones. Anyway, what's this post about?

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Unfortunately the weapons they develop there will be used against us here.

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They also have some good unmanned ground vehicles, and interestingly enough, unmanned sea drones

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lemmy.world

Missed the word “sales” the first time and thought “hell yeah”, then re-read it and was just disappointed.

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Yeah, the fact that super-yachts aren't exploding just shows how fucked we are.

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lemmy.world

Paywalled article. Though I suppose that's an apt meta-Boring Dystopia detail.

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lemmy.world

People selling all of their stuff to go live permanently on the ocean?

I know of at least one person with that plan

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I wouldn’t mind it. Fish everyday, enjoy beautiful scenery, peace and quiet.

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If I'm ever out in my 14' Lund fishing boat and I see one of those superyachts I'm gonna ram it!

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