It's a pure tournament helmet for jousting, the peculiar design is to direct splinters away from the tiny opening that juuuuust let's you see your opponent.
If I had to choose for combat I'd pick frog-mouth. The angle of the armor really matters so the crossbow bolts bounce off or need to penetrate a more steel for same weight.
Can't beat the chad aura of the great helm though. Best helm for looksmaxxing when you have a chill garrison position.
I looked it up, frog-mouth sucks unless you're jousting. You can't see unless you're leaning forward, can't breathe properly etc. Turns out great helm is great.
I have worn exactly half of these, and since I not that great at tournaments, I can say that KettleHat is the most fun for audience, you will definitely hear every bang like a church bell. The first is quite comfy (never heard of this name though). GreatHelm / Armet / Hounskull - damn bro, you can't see shit in those while having trouble breathing, and all that for the trade of security :/, no like, feels like you are just a target in the field. Your Bascinet here is extreemely open, it's a good helmet, but I would like to have some more face cover. Sallet, wore it once, many years ago, memories are fairly good.
Ok, the article says it was 'probably' a Greek mercenary. They say the helmet was probably from Greece because of the decorations. They say he also had some jewelry with Egyptian goddess Sekhmet and inscription in hieroglyphs talking about Necao I. And the son of Necao I was the first pharaoh that started hiring Greek mercenaries. So it's possible it was a Greek warrior that fought with Egyptians and later Phoenicians. Interesting life for VI century B.C.
If our original choice of helmets is steel, I'm gonna assume the guys in the other camp have steel too, so I'm not bringing a bronze helmet just to aura farm, however good looking it is.
Not very well but the closer a hole is to your eyes the more you can see out. Breeding Breathing holes on the mouth and nose can also help you see downwards. I think most medieval battles were fought in formations, your enemies were in front of you, if someone was allowed to "skip back behind you" something already went really wrong.
The frog-mouth was for jousting primarily, visibility was very poor. I would go with the sallet or kettlehelm because they had better visibility and the flared bottom helps protect from archers or slingers.
it also looks like the easiest one to manufacture of all of those (with the tools of the time). So I guess it's the cheapest to outfit your soldiers with.
The great helm wins the looks, but if I actually had to wear one every day, it’d be kettle helm hands down. The rest seem either horribly uncomfortable, hard to see out of, or impossible to move well in.
Hounskull. Looks closest to a bird head, so you know I gotta pick it. Would say the one to the left of it, but frogs are not high on my animal tier list.
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The aura from the great helm cannot be matched.
If someone in a Great Helm declared "None shall pass!" I must take it seriously.
The hounskull on the other hand...
I'm torn between Sallet and Frog Mouth.
Sallet seems like the most practical with decent visibility level, not a ton but some neck protection.
Frog mouth just screams advanced night unkillable knight.
Inside of me there are two helms..
Frog-mouth, both mysterious and otherworldly
And unable to look down. Like, at all.
It's a pure tournament helmet for jousting, the peculiar design is to direct splinters away from the tiny opening that juuuuust let's you see your opponent.
I'm aware. The post mixes helmets for different functions. Still a valid criticism, IMO.
Thats what the squire is for
If I had to choose for combat I'd pick frog-mouth. The angle of the armor really matters so the crossbow bolts bounce off or need to penetrate a more steel for same weight.
Can't beat the chad aura of the great helm though. Best helm for looksmaxxing when you have a chill garrison position.
I was about to come in here and say the same thing. The great helm is iconic, but the frogmouth is just both cool and practical.
I looked it up, frog-mouth sucks unless you're jousting. You can't see unless you're leaning forward, can't breathe properly etc. Turns out great helm is great.
The Sallet is generally paired with the most badass armors but if we're only going by helmet looks, I'd go with the Frog-Mouth. It hits different.
It also gets hit different.
Not gona lie seems awfully inconvenient in light rain shower.
"Oh my poor, poor valiant knight, tell me how did he parish. Like a lion fighting to his last breath? "
"Well you see my lady, there was this rain cloud. "
Frog-mouth gang rise up.
Obviously Hounskull! Breathing room, full head and neck protection, plus you look like a mechahound!
Can fully smoke a J up there any you just look like a stylish incense burner
Hotbox the Hounskull!
The Sallet in this pic is great for breathability as well, there is open space between the helmet & the bevor (the jaw/neck protection)
Frog mouth! Frog mouth!
I have worn exactly half of these, and since I not that great at tournaments, I can say that KettleHat is the most fun for audience, you will definitely hear every bang like a church bell. The first is quite comfy (never heard of this name though). GreatHelm / Armet / Hounskull - damn bro, you can't see shit in those while having trouble breathing, and all that for the trade of security :/, no like, feels like you are just a target in the field. Your Bascinet here is extreemely open, it's a good helmet, but I would like to have some more face cover. Sallet, wore it once, many years ago, memories are fairly good.
I want to try a frogmouth. I think it might have a good security/visibility ratio. Also it looks funny 🐸
The Sallet just does it for me, not sure why
Because it's easier to breathe and more comfortable. It has less protection, but the majority of the time you're not being stabbed in the face.
Of course that one time you are being stabbed in the face, you're really going to have some regrets.
"What are you going to do, stab me?" - man who was stabbed in the face.
We discussed this before.
Is that Phoenician? This is in a museum in my town: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumba_del_guerrero
They have entire grave of a Phoenician mercenary there.
I don't know if the plume is historically accurate but the base is Corinthian
So that was a Greek mercenary that served in Phoenician army and he was using Greek armor. Interesting.
I don't think in warfare they had a rule that if someone made an armor design you can't use it anymore. So it could as much be just a Phoenician.
didn't they have patent law back then?
Ok, the article says it was 'probably' a Greek mercenary. They say the helmet was probably from Greece because of the decorations. They say he also had some jewelry with Egyptian goddess Sekhmet and inscription in hieroglyphs talking about Necao I. And the son of Necao I was the first pharaoh that started hiring Greek mercenaries. So it's possible it was a Greek warrior that fought with Egyptians and later Phoenicians. Interesting life for VI century B.C.
travel the world, kill random people, collect souvenirs - join the pharaoh's army now
If our original choice of helmets is steel, I'm gonna assume the guys in the other camp have steel too, so I'm not bringing a bronze helmet just to aura farm, however good looking it is.
Sorry best I can do is iron, if you don't want to die in a blaze of glory that is on you
Spangenhelm.
Always Great Helmet! Since I first saw it in Age of Empires 2 on the Teutonic knights.
But the variety makes them interesting.
How do you even see out of most of these? Doesn't an attacker just have to jauntily skip behind the helmet wearer and become effectively invisible?
Not very well but the closer a hole is to your eyes the more you can see out.
BreedingBreathing holes on the mouth and nose can also help you see downwards. I think most medieval battles were fought in formations, your enemies were in front of you, if someone was allowed to "skip back behind you" something already went really wrong.Breeding holes, you say?
For glory!
That would be fly.
That makes sense.
Not very well if Kingdom Come Deliverance has taught me anything.
"Jesus Christ be praised!"
Me anytime I actually manage to hit my oponent
And where I learned Cumins are not what makes Mexican food amazing.
Hounskull has you looking like Sam the Eagle
Spangenhelm has that unmatched aura
Great helm
Looks downright evil. Sign me up.
Frogmouth. Its so goofy and cute
Great helm, it's a great helm, it's in the name, what more is there to say?
Kettle Hat, you can make soup in it if needed.
What happens with the frog-mouth if it rains?
Hydration!
What are the pros and cons of each one of those?
The frog-mouth was for jousting primarily, visibility was very poor. I would go with the sallet or kettlehelm because they had better visibility and the flared bottom helps protect from archers or slingers.
Only helms with facial hair are worthy.
If it's not the Sallet, what are you doing with your life? Get a grip.
Great Bascinet should have been an option, though. Solid choice.
Lemme at em with the Hounskull, I'll peck put their eyes!
Nah but fr, Bascinet for me, I like to keep it casual.
The kettle hat will probably give the best compromise of safety and battlefield visibility. Id imagine it's what a normal foot soilder would wear.
it also looks like the easiest one to manufacture of all of those (with the tools of the time). So I guess it's the cheapest to outfit your soldiers with.
Great helm
I'd look cool af when I wear none of these in battle.
I'd die immediately of course, but everyone would agree I'm the flyest corpse.
The armet just gives classic pop culture knight vibes for me
Frogge
Hounskull is the goat. Literally every angle is impossible to penetrate a blade into
Spanghelm just looks menacing as is, i don't care if my nose will be caved in
What kind of question is this? Obviously the right answer is sallet
Some guy near the shore: I will drink from your skull!
Frog mouth FTW!
Vulnerable to pocket sand, unfortunately
Yeah, I just like the look.
Hounskull, ‘cause I loike dem beakie bois!
Sallet
Hounskull. Looks like a bird and I just think that's hilarious.
Great helm. Add a plume of feathers at the top and is one of the first Iron Banner helmets in Destiny the game.
Sallet.
Barbute looks like some item you'd pick up in some RPG from the 90s.
Great helm all the way to the walls of Jerusalem
Kettle hat for fashion, Spangenhelm for practicality.
Barbute or kettle hat. I can't pick between the two.
The great helm wins the looks, but if I actually had to wear one every day, it’d be kettle helm hands down. The rest seem either horribly uncomfortable, hard to see out of, or impossible to move well in.
Hounskull. Looks closest to a bird head, so you know I gotta pick it. Would say the one to the left of it, but frogs are not high on my animal tier list.
I guess the sallet is the most balanced.
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27 years of the same paladin now. I still raid weekly, even.
Only one of them is a top rated Wordle starting point