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sopuli.xyz

People who delete their post after getting an answer are bad citizens of the community.

If everyone did that it would be a wasteland.

If I see you do it regularly I will block your posts so as to not waste time.

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piefed.social

Otoh sometimes people realize they posted something rude and insensitive, and are not the kind of asshats who double down on bad positions but instead prefer to take our lumps and try to do better in the future

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There’s a difference between regretting a post and taking your ball to go home.

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sh.itjust.works

If so, it's entirely possible to edit the post by crossing out or even erasing all the offensive words and adding or substituting an apology. "I've realized I posted something rude and insensitive here, so I've deleted it and will try to do better in the future."

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sopuli.xyz

In a similar vein, I wish people who lose arguments could be better about leaving it up.

We’re all anonymous here so you shouldn’t let your ego get in the way of debating ideas and debunking bad ones.

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Especially since there's no accumulation of points here! I like to look and see the reaction numbers, but they don't affect anything beyond that one moment in that one place.

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yes i often do it because it sounds wierd or it is could be a misinterpretation. usually people are aggressive with things like misinformaiton/propaganda usually leave it up. aside from teh bots who delete theirs immediately.

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Unless it’s legitimately a mispost (egregiously wrong place) I’ll usually just edit if I was wrong and let it stand for posterity so other fediverse users aren’t left wondering

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midwest.social

Sometimes someone says something awful, and I just go the fuck off on them. Paragraphs of refutal, logic argument, citations. And I let it sit for a minute, and go back and delete it because I just don't like my vibe and honestly what difference will it make?

But then I get upvotes because some users can see deleted comments, and it makes me feel pretty good

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I can't see deleted comments but I still upvote them because why not

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I do that as well, except I don't hit send and delete it. Sometimes I just need something let out and doesn't need it to be out in the public

Sometimes typing it out makes it sound way more stupid than I initially thought so why bother

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I'm a slut for democracy, how would I self medicate without them? /hj

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lemmy.world

If I post in the wrong place I delete it. Don't care how you look at me.

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From what I understand, this is more about legitimately good posts getting deleted and basically the solid info amid the responses getting lost/inaccessible as a result. Despite the decreased anonymity, the loss of information for the hive mind is severer than on Reddit, where deleted stuff can still show up in search engines, or something like that. I don't remember the details of how it works but it's a mounting problem with Lenny's design. Perhaps a better explanation by me elsewhere in this post: https://programming.dev/comment/24979223

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lemmy.today

What of someone posts empty comments as an answer to a hot thread, then deletes it, to make people think the person knew the answer?

I know what I'm doing today!

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Sometimes I comment, then immediately think about it and say "I really dgaf" then delete it. Look at me funny all you want.

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I delete my comments regularly few weeks after posting them, because often my paranoia kicks in, and I feel like I have to at least cover my tracks a bit. I do however, do my best to leave up all comments that answer something or have relevant information.
When I switch accounts to a new one, I delete my full comment history, though. I know this is bad for the continuity and history and everything, but I have not figured out ways to lessen my paranoia. And it does not help, that I somewhat lack in emotions, and do not care much, what people I do not know, think about me or my actions. So my options are, either keep doing this, or stop commenting. So far the first one has won.

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Seems like good practice. I just recently learned that your up/downvotes are also visible for everyone, which seems odd and sketchy privacy wise. Which result in way less voting by me.

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lemmy.world

"decombobulated" is the type of word you'd see Edd (from Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy) say.

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Edd had a way of spifflicating words in a toploftical fashion

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mander.xyz

Being roasted isn't the end of the world. You will emerge cooked but flavorful.

Seriously though just remember we are all just bots anyway /s

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Some weird part of me wants to be an alien dog from 7 11 Taiwan

Does that count? Picture included

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You don't get roasted, people just assume you said something naughty.

What's funny is that with the wonders of federation you can downvote deleted comments that you never saw the text on.

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lemmy.zip

I really need to make an undelete instance. It would be incredibly easy to federate and then just ignore the code that executes a delete when it receives it via ActivityPub.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I support this.

People need to deal with their own bullshit, and also understand that... the internet is forever.

Take some accountability and grow from a mistake, and foster a culture where its normal to be stupid and wrong about some things, and then grow... none of this bs 'i have never had a bad take' nonsense.

If you want something to be temporary, figure out how to say it in an actually temporary, disposable way.

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lemmy.ml

I only have bad takes and my entire life's purpose is to keep making them worse.

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Judging from the current vote counts on my comment, I'm apparently doing that right now, lol

I guess being accountable for the things you say, and being aware that govts and megacorps archive everything already... these are apparently significantly unpopular ideas.

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What do you want to be: a Whatsapp, a Reddit, a Stack Overflow or a Wikipedia?

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

... you don't get it.

If you made a post, on lemmy, and then deleted it?

... you didn't actually delete it.

Somebody already archived it. Some three letter organization, probably many of them, and they often talk to each other.

An undelete instance would just make that more obvious to more people.

If you're worried about persecution due to being a minority or supporting them... you need to actually learn how to secure your online communications, you need to figure out how to effectively seperate your real identity from your online one.

Lemmy is public.

Anyone can archive the entire thing, at any time. If you are worried about the fascists, as you should be, you need to learn actual security and privacy practices.

... the internet is forever.

The doorkickers aren't going to care that you 'deleted' your post after they already made a copy of it.

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... No, I haven't.

i've described reality as it is.

I've also said that in general, people should be allowed to publically make mistakes and publically learn and grow from them.

If you want lemmy to ... actually support truly deletable posts and comments? And also be public facing?

Go redesign it then.

You are ignorant of how the actual mechanisms at play here work, and you've decided that me describing them to you is somehow a moral defense of surveillance capitalism.

You can't have something that is totally public yet is also truly totally redactable at the same time.

You're just mad that you don't understand how software works, and lashing out wildly.

I don't do it because I wish to take part in the construction of an online archive of everything that anyone has ever said that can be easily scanned to profile people, harass them, and for other such fun anti-social uses of technology.

Then stop communicating on any public facing communications platform.

What you said there applies to all of them.

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lemmy.zip

I can, however, make it slightly harder to do

I may be missing the “it”, but what are you referring to and how?

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lemmy.today

I just gave up on that, decided to thwirl my moustache.

If someone interprets my comment wrong, I will just play up the role of a really fucking evil guy.

Life is easier when you don't care.

All that matters is getting X goods to Y people.

Everything else is cheap.

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It might be easier, but its also lonlier, and more hostile.

And, some things... some valuable things cannot be bought nor sold.

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Out of a hundred possible good reasons to delete, it'll probably be perceived as something you did wrong, because then people can gloat.

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lemmy.zip

Here’s a fact! It doesn’t matter unless they actually a judge!

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anarchist.nexus

I dont even edit my misspellings anymore. Take me as I am, dumb ass and all.

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These posts that are aimed at one person but pretending to be about lemmy in general are sophomoric and dumb.

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You could always block the people making these posts instead of ineffectively complaining.

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lemdro.id

They really need to add a way to view mod removed posts

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That's all I got then, lol. Maybe some posts get like hard deleted in addition to just being removed?

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I delete comments if I see that somebody else already said the same thing or if I realize I was misinformed when I made the comment. Neither case adds anything useful.

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As an Australian, with 8-10 shots of alcohol in my system I seem to get the same response I got on Reddit.

I'm just talking shit and people are getting offended. At least here I wake up with 1-2 replies telling me how wrong and foolish I am instead of Reddit where I woke up with multiple replies and downvotes because everyone is so self-righteous.

It's why 4Chan was good.. "WAS" good I could get tipsy, Talk a bunch of shit, call the French, Italians, Greek and Turks a bunch of arse holes. 1 or 2 of them would call me the N word or call me a cunt and tell me to kill myself and I could just laugh and move on.

Reddit you say "Lol I don't like Nazis* or "Israel is a terrorist state" and you get banned..

Here I can fairly call Israel a terrorist state but people still get offended if I call France, Italy or Greece useless.

Don't get offended.. I'm a drunk Australian arsehole.. Insult me back!

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Wandering the void until your mind vegetates from 1000 years of boredom.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

You're doomed to circle the drain until you find yourself back in the Cesspit of Redderp, trying to keep yourself whole until you can escape again —hopefully, untainted by the no-effort nazis, pedo-fans, cumboxes, etc. that churn in that "fun-sized" alphashit soup.

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I think I had a reddit account for like 2 weeks. I actually kind of like Lemmy and Piefed outside of just search results.

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I mean yeah, but you can easily tell those cases because such deleted comments have very few votes.

A deleted comment with a bunch of votes is a cowardly retreat from being some kind of embarassing or stupid.

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lemmy.zip

You'd rather be exposed to unintended idiocy?

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Actually, this is one of the biggest longevity-harming issues with the way Lemmy works: people ask a legitimate question, it gets a great answer, and the original poster deletes the entire submission once satisfied. Access to even the responses seems to be totally cut off versus (Old?) Reddit in which you can still view the discussions if you have a link to the post. At least that's how I've been understanding it. I mean, I saw a notice by a Lemmy mod in a Q&A tech community once (can't remember which, but I can try to look for it) asking people to not delete their posts once they get answers.

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So do we get the opposite if mods delete our comments. Not everything I say is awesome but everyone the mods delete that I say is awesome

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