Massive Pixel 11 leak just revealed almost everything about Google's next phones
Google accidentally listed the entire Pixel 11 series on Amazon a month early, revealing pricing, specs, and colors.
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Prices are rising by $100 across the board, with the base Pixel 11 now starting at $899 with 256GB of storage.
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Google is hit by the memory crisis, with base Pro and Pro XL variants dropping to 12GB of RAM instead of 16GB.
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The Pixel 11 Pro Fold starts at $1,899 but drops to a smaller 4,750mAh battery, down from last year's 5,000mAh.
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I appreciate that they've dropped the 128GB model, but paying more for less RAM highlights the sad state of tech right now 💀
I held onto my Pixel 3 until I got the Pixel 7, and always said I'd wait for the 11. The 12GB RAM is still an upgrade over my 7's 8GB, at least.
Reminder: never buy Pixels at MSRP. There will be great trade-in deals and sales in November, then again in January.
My Pixel 7 is having a really hard time right now 🫤
Put Graphene OS on it.
Already done. Next?
What are you running that you're feeling resource limitations?
The browser. And the keyboard.
Really? My old 6 pro still performs like it was new.
No problems with Ironfox. Don't use Vanadium much. Pixel tablet.
Glad to hear you don't have problems on your Pixel Tablet
time for cleansing? I've got a P7pro on Graphene OS. Quite snappy
The Pro is quite a bit more capable.
Why?/Same processor and complaining about speed.
This little thing called RAM
The principle still holds: get rid of unnecesary processes, and your phone should be faster and battery last longer
I don't know why you assume that I'm not already doing that.
Fair point 👌🏼
They're just trying to push Graphene/de-Googled OS. Every third comment on this Lemmy community does that.
Good.
In what way? Battery life?
No I mean in terms of speed. Like it can take several seconds to load up a webpage or open an app. Just pulling up my keyboard can take several seconds and typing has a noticeable lag, which makes it really difficult as well.
Could be your NAND failing, more likely just needs a factory reset. But Pixel's lack of a good backup system is frustrating. You'd likely need to set up all your apps again.
Do a factory reset, you have to much shit installed, mine runs flawlessly since day 1 on GrapheneOS.
I'll keep my 9pro, thanks. Graphene OS putting in work.
P7pro + GOS here. Snappy as it gets.
7a GOS. A bit small, but works fine.
The feature I was looking for on the 8 pro was an extended support period for security updates. I'm running this thing until it dies. I hate getting rid of phones prematurely.
I broke my 8 pro and I miss it every day. It was a great phone. I liked it more than I like the 9. I bought the 9 on sale so I guess I can't be too mad.
"Leak"
I wouldn't pay more for less memory, regardless of why it was explained that it was happening. Older Pixels with more memory would be a better performer for less money.
I get that on the face of it it's a bad deal, but I don't think RAM capacity is the only factor in a phone's performance.
Given Pixel's longevity these days, I wouldn't expect Pixel 10 or even Pixel 9 users to be jumping to the 11 anyway.
Definitely not the only but with the memory heavy apps that I use, it's a huge factor.
I think I can probably get to the 12(used) before I decide to upgrade my 9. I'll pick one up once Graphene is released on it.
Do yourself a favour and just pay to replace your 9's battery. Would keep you going until the 13 or even 14. That's how I'm still using a Pixel 7 today.
I mainly want to upgrade for the improvements to the display, and for integrated MagSafe.
So basically by keeping your Pixel 10 you're getting an upgrade over the new Pixel 11. Now, who said Google wasn't consumer friendly?
I'm definitely gonna creep on Swappa for a 10 fold once the 11 is out 🤩
Does anyone realistically use 16GB of memory on their phone? I think my Pixel 8a has 6GB and I think I'm alright?
I notice apps closing on my Pixel 7 with 8GB every now and again, but it's totally not a big deal for me. I can imagine certain users who swap between Reddit, Instagram and some game want more RAM, but most users won't care or notice.
Part of it is longevity too, right? With phones being supported for longer and longer you kinda want more of a headroom as apps and OS become more RAM-heavy.
This 12GB limit probably isn't going to stop me from upgrading, but I certainly wont be paying MSRP.
Apps will only keep getting ram hungry for little while due to inertia. But that era is over. Programmers got away with demanding more ram because ram was cheap. Each new device doubled or tripled their ram capacity every year. That era is over for good. Even if the LLMs bubble pops today, prices won't go down for the next decade at least. With these new devices—consoles, phones, computers—keeping or even reducing ram capacity from previous generations, developers have no choice but to hold back their ram race.
Add: eventually the developers will have to optimize or there will be no market capable of running the software.
I hate it, but it's true.
When consumer prices tripled, sales didn't go down anywhere near the 2/3 where they'd only break even. Instead, sales only dropped 15-20%, so they got massive profit & revenue increases while providing less.
To the manufacturers, that's their signal that this is simply the new price.
Well in the case of Pixel phones there's Gemini that can use a lot for on device stuff. Apps can also use quite a bit nowadays, you can definitely see the difference between 6 and 12-16GB of ram.
Interesting. I wouldn't have expected commercial AI assistants to compute a lot of stuff on device. For speed / response time reasons, and battery drain. Other than maybe speech recognition... Guess I'm not up to date anymore. I haven't tried Gemini. Most fancy stuff I use is speech recognition and Google Lens, respectively "Offline Translator" to translate Chinese, Japanese or Korean writing on products in the Asia supermarket. That app is perfectly alright with just the 6GB on my phone. But yeah, generative AI in form of a large language model or an image generator won't fit. I've tried a few other open-source local AI apps and it can't do any of the usable AI models.
It's mostly from the Pixel 10 and up.
Less battery on pixel fold is pretty horrible, considering the Razr Fold now has 6000 mah.
We really need to normalize using amp hours instead of listing values of thousand of miliamp hours.
6,000,000 µAh
Petty,I like it.
We really need to normalize using watt hours
watt-hours*
For some reason we use watt-hours for laptops but haven't managed to figure out how to do the same for "phones".
That's a mad battery. Not a lot of reasons so far to not go Motorola....
Still rocking the iPhone X, and wondering if I can hold out until their 20 year anniversary phone next year…. But GrapheneOS on a Pixel is tempting.
Isn't that iPhone out of support?
Yup 9 years old and still working though, banking apps still work but a number of apps I used to occasionally use are no longer working, but nothing critical.
I have a Pixel 10 and it is by far the most bug-ridden phone I've ever had. I thought Oneplus was bad...
It's no wonder that most Google employees use Iphones.
Weird. 10 pro fold here. Same bugs any other android phone has had for decades, nothing crazy though. Like the odd frozen app or unexpected back button behavior. That's it for me.