You know, all those high schooler mixologists. With their own portable bars. Totally reasonable you guys, c'mon help 'em out!
Classic ![email protected] behavior.
Back in the day Reddit had something like that where you could request mod access if a community had been abandoned for long enough. I don't know if Lemmy's back end programming has functionality for that.
Church lady asking for a ride for 20 people to some event. Everyone kept giving her suggestions and each one was met with a flippant, “That’s not enough for 20 NEXT!”.
When I was in high school I had an acquaintance who made white Russians. He had a travel case specifically for all the ingredients and the glassware to match. Couldn't make any other drink to save his life. The white Russians were acceptable.
I used to be a videographer. Mostly weddings, and a few very small indie films. I eventually transitioned out of that and into a more stable career, but I've got 10+ years of experience.
A couple of years ago, knowing this, a buddy asked me if I'd be willing to film his friends' live comedy sketch show. It's a guy I've known since high school, so I figured I'd cut him a deal: I'd do it for $25/hr, 4-hour minimum. He responded, "What if I made you some lasagna instead?"
I did a bunch of free wedding photography and portraits and stuff for friends and family when I was in college. I stopped when I started getting referred to people who weren't my friends who also expected free work out of me and then acted like I was the asshole when I refused.
My wife used to be a cosmologist, she did very well for herself but it was hard on her health doing it professionally for so long.
When we moved away, instead of building new clientele from scratch, which is hard. She took the opportunity to change careers into finance.
She still does hair on the side, for friends and family.
But we had to make a rule now that it's family only, because honestly that's like 15 heads, counting only the family geographically close enough to make it viable, and that keeps her busy enough as it is.
She does it for free, out of love, and obligation.
Though most the family is pretty good about insisting they pay her the market rate, and being very thankful. She's a great cosmologist.
She'd like to add in a couple friends here and there, again she likes to be helpful, but it quickly snowballs into more and more demands with less and less appreciation, even with close friends. And with less close friends, or just acquaintances, people start getting really offended when she legitimately has to turn them down.
They refuse to understand she's busy enough as it is, and even if they're paying top dollar(which they never do), she doesn't want to do a side hustle that big. She just wants to do family, and some select friends.
So now we have a rule, family only. Period. Only her best, oldest friends, basically family, does she do their hair.
Everyone else, even if she wouldn't mind doing some of them occasionally, get a blanket no. Family only. Because people can't be chill.
That stops most people from being offended, and takes pressure off her having to explain the nuance.
She doesn't have to explain why friend B can have hair done, but not them. Because friend B isn't getting it either. Nobody is. Family only.
Yes, it is bonkers cheap. Like, unbelievably cheap. Even when I was first starting out, $300 for a shoot was my floor. But I'd been friends with this guy since forever and wanted to help him out.
I have a personal stance on doing professional work for friends.
If they offer to pay me for my services, they get discounts and maybe even a few freebies. If they ask for me to do it for free, they pay full price forever.
I'll also proactively offer free work for friends sometimes when it looks like they could really use it, with the understanding they're getting "much better than amateur, but nowhere near my best" when it comes to quality.
I'm in the business myself, and the way I handle this is simple. When it's coming from people I know personally, I look at it like I'm going to do it for free, I weigh that decision that way and only say yes if I accept that. I let them know my rates are quite expensive, and that I'm not asking that from them because I'm doing it as a favour/for the art/for myself (depending on what we're talking about, weddings, portraits, short films, something for their business etc). Then I let them decide if and how much they'd like to offer, and I'm happy with anything, because I've already accepted this was something I was gonna do "for free".
Weddings in particular, I did a bunch when I was young and these days I'd never pursue more work in that niche, I only do it for family/friends and then the last thing I want is for money to sour things.
Obviously you can't be doing that all the time, thankfully I don't and have plenty of properly paid work as well. But you gotta make the difference between favours and clients and can't look at it the same way, if my wife's cousin asks if I can help her film some clips for her cupcake side-business I ain't gonna treat it like a corporate client and ask the 1200€+ day-rate.
I like that. It's kind of similar to the "don't lend money you wouldn't be comfortable giving as a gift, because if it doesn't come back, you have to be ok with it".
I've learned that lesson a few times. It'll stick one of these days.
You and your friends sign up for this job. Day of, all of you either don't show, show but then leave partway, or do such a terrible job that they send you home.
The food for 25 is that $1000, at least. Sandwiches is already in the $500 catered range for that many people, much less a full meal.
I'd put this more at around 3-5k, with the food ($1000), drinks ($500), DJ ($300), photo/video/editing x2 ($600), waitress x2 ($300), and singer ($300).
That'd just the 4 hour rate. I expect all those to double for 8 hours.
Hi, as a fine art photographer, I would love to shoot this mediocre bullshit event for negative money cause I’m spending gas and bringing some of my assistants with me.
If you expect to pay someone with one year of experience the same as you pay someone with 20 years of experience, then there’s still something wrong with you.
I wonder how much he's "tipping" these 7(!) people he's asked to work for free at his daughter's party. I do like the boldness of the ask though, not like asking one-by-one "hey is there a DJ who might be ok working for tips?" but "is there an entire event company out there willing to do this for no cost?"
I know you're joking but technically (at least in my state) high schoolers aren't allowed to serve beer. They're BARELY allowed to move boxes of it from one place to another, and definitely not to serve it. I think they have to be at least 19 and get a 'Limited bartender' license, I don't remember the exact requirements
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You know, all those high schooler mixologists. With their own portable bars. Totally reasonable you guys, c'mon help 'em out!
Classic ![email protected] behavior.
Do we have an insanepeoplefacebook community? This also belongs there if it exists on lemmy
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Well that's a dead community. Last update was 2 years ago
Lemmy has a dead community for everything!
Some say the APIpocalypse refugees were… optimistic.
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I made a kbin magazine for the game Satisfactory and I think one person posted to it! 😁
There should be a community for dead communities.
Back in the day Reddit had something like that where you could request mod access if a community had been abandoned for long enough. I don't know if Lemmy's back end programming has functionality for that.
Ah yes, I remember that sub.
I’m sure a Lemmy admin could assign a mod if it was a com on their instance. But I doubt most of them want to be bothered with that.
STAHP!
you are making me nostalgic for a particular dead subreddit takeover.
::: spoiler not going back, tho
PM_ME_YOUR_TITS_GIRL https://www.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/comments/6ruv62/requesting_rprettypussy_banned_subreddit_7_years/dl80lvg/
:::
I think she's got them confused with kids that have a lemonade stand.
Why do so many people want slaves
Slaves aren't free! You have to buy them upfront and then provide food and housing.
This person wants magic.
True, they want volunteers or interns.
The magician is also free.
When you view other human beings as transactions, then slavery is no different than a coupon.
It's very convenient
It's for a church honey. NEXT!
Omg what was this from?
https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplefacebook/comments/7kqzb9/church_lady_asks_the_community_facebook_group_to/
Hilarious when they're so serious!
Beautiful
NEXT!
omg that's amazing..
Church lady asking for a ride for 20 people to some event. Everyone kept giving her suggestions and each one was met with a flippant, “That’s not enough for 20 NEXT!”.
Ty! This was too funny
/r/oldpeoplefacebook
Some old thread on Reddit, making fun of a Facebook post. I don't remember which sub.
"You are magnanimously permitted to not keep the free work you did a secret."
There's lots of high school mixologists I'm sure.
I did pretty well.
“I can make a screwdriver… or anything with soda.”
I can do a pretty good virgin cuba libre!
I used to work in a bar (not as the bartender) and only ever heard someone order a Cuba libre once, every other time they just said rum and coke.
Cuba libre includes a lime wedge for that extra zazzle.
Not in Cuba in my experience lol
Got a plastic cup of cola with a swig of rum. It was a welcoming toast at the hotel tho so not complaining
Is pouring a bottle of everclear into a gallon of Hawaiian punch mixology?
It certainly is! As long as you stick a long wooden spoon in there and mix them together.
Only if it's into a plastic tub.
best i could do back then is take a cup to a soda fountain and go right down the line.
When I was in high school I had an acquaintance who made white Russians. He had a travel case specifically for all the ingredients and the glassware to match. Couldn't make any other drink to save his life. The white Russians were acceptable.
That’s just, like, your opinion, man!
I used to be a videographer. Mostly weddings, and a few very small indie films. I eventually transitioned out of that and into a more stable career, but I've got 10+ years of experience.
A couple of years ago, knowing this, a buddy asked me if I'd be willing to film his friends' live comedy sketch show. It's a guy I've known since high school, so I figured I'd cut him a deal: I'd do it for $25/hr, 4-hour minimum. He responded, "What if I made you some lasagna instead?"
So that show went unfilmed.
I did a bunch of free wedding photography and portraits and stuff for friends and family when I was in college. I stopped when I started getting referred to people who weren't my friends who also expected free work out of me and then acted like I was the asshole when I refused.
My wife used to be a cosmologist, she did very well for herself but it was hard on her health doing it professionally for so long.
When we moved away, instead of building new clientele from scratch, which is hard. She took the opportunity to change careers into finance.
She still does hair on the side, for friends and family.
But we had to make a rule now that it's family only, because honestly that's like 15 heads, counting only the family geographically close enough to make it viable, and that keeps her busy enough as it is.
She does it for free, out of love, and obligation. Though most the family is pretty good about insisting they pay her the market rate, and being very thankful. She's a great cosmologist.
She'd like to add in a couple friends here and there, again she likes to be helpful, but it quickly snowballs into more and more demands with less and less appreciation, even with close friends. And with less close friends, or just acquaintances, people start getting really offended when she legitimately has to turn them down.
They refuse to understand she's busy enough as it is, and even if they're paying top dollar(which they never do), she doesn't want to do a side hustle that big. She just wants to do family, and some select friends.
So now we have a rule, family only. Period. Only her best, oldest friends, basically family, does she do their hair.
Everyone else, even if she wouldn't mind doing some of them occasionally, get a blanket no. Family only. Because people can't be chill.
That stops most people from being offended, and takes pressure off her having to explain the nuance.
She doesn't have to explain why friend B can have hair done, but not them. Because friend B isn't getting it either. Nobody is. Family only.
I didn't know that cosmology was such a hairy field.
I was waiting for some kind of nebula reference.....
Stupid autocorrect. I swear I triple checked those! I'm leaving it lol
Its okay we all know you meant astrology
That sounds cheap as fuck, isn't that cheap as fuck? And he didn't even go for that?
Yes, it is bonkers cheap. Like, unbelievably cheap. Even when I was first starting out, $300 for a shoot was my floor. But I'd been friends with this guy since forever and wanted to help him out.
Edit: autocorrects and typos
I have a personal stance on doing professional work for friends.
If they offer to pay me for my services, they get discounts and maybe even a few freebies. If they ask for me to do it for free, they pay full price forever.
I'll also proactively offer free work for friends sometimes when it looks like they could really use it, with the understanding they're getting "much better than amateur, but nowhere near my best" when it comes to quality.
I'm in the business myself, and the way I handle this is simple. When it's coming from people I know personally, I look at it like I'm going to do it for free, I weigh that decision that way and only say yes if I accept that. I let them know my rates are quite expensive, and that I'm not asking that from them because I'm doing it as a favour/for the art/for myself (depending on what we're talking about, weddings, portraits, short films, something for their business etc). Then I let them decide if and how much they'd like to offer, and I'm happy with anything, because I've already accepted this was something I was gonna do "for free".
Weddings in particular, I did a bunch when I was young and these days I'd never pursue more work in that niche, I only do it for family/friends and then the last thing I want is for money to sour things.
Obviously you can't be doing that all the time, thankfully I don't and have plenty of properly paid work as well. But you gotta make the difference between favours and clients and can't look at it the same way, if my wife's cousin asks if I can help her film some clips for her cupcake side-business I ain't gonna treat it like a corporate client and ask the 1200€+ day-rate.
I like that. It's kind of similar to the "don't lend money you wouldn't be comfortable giving as a gift, because if it doesn't come back, you have to be ok with it".
I've learned that lesson a few times. It'll stick one of these days.
Holy shit, a hundred bucks to film a whole ass show? Your lasagna friend is the most oblivious to have missed out on that deal
Must have thought you were Garfield the cat and will work for lasagna
You and your friends sign up for this job. Day of, all of you either don't show, show but then leave partway, or do such a terrible job that they send you home.
Show up, drink everything, chef makes a meal they feed to the drunks, dj starts playing american pie on repeat
Or "What's New Pussycat" 21 times with a single "It's Not Unusual" thrown into the mix
“I’m so clumsy!”
Do it for free on the promise for a tip afterward.
Everyone knows there will be no tip.
it'll be a few of those tracts that look like money.
Pinky promise!
You get a dollar! And you get a dollar! Everyone gets a dollar!
I would like to reply with 8 fake profiles and assure that we will be there, then just not show up.
just ballparking here, but that looks like at least $1000 she's trying to cheat a bunch of kids out of.
The food for 25 is that $1000, at least. Sandwiches is already in the $500 catered range for that many people, much less a full meal.
I'd put this more at around 3-5k, with the food ($1000), drinks ($500), DJ ($300), photo/video/editing x2 ($600), waitress x2 ($300), and singer ($300).
That'd just the 4 hour rate. I expect all those to double for 8 hours.
Hi, as a fine art photographer, I would love to shoot this mediocre bullshit event for negative money cause I’m spending gas and bringing some of my assistants with me.
"unskilled labor" but done by young people so I don't have to actually pay.
Society is way to comfortable with ageism such as this - a teen should have the same pay as an "adult" working the same job.
There is something to be said for experience.
If you expect to pay someone with one year of experience the same as you pay someone with 20 years of experience, then there’s still something wrong with you.
I agree, experience is important. However, I have to say: age ≠ experience.
I wonder how much he's "tipping" these 7(!) people he's asked to work for free at his daughter's party. I do like the boldness of the ask though, not like asking one-by-one "hey is there a DJ who might be ok working for tips?" but "is there an entire event company out there willing to do this for no cost?"
The moment they said mixologist, that post became a criminal offense.
That is sooo NextDoor. com.
As a wedding caterer for 10+ years, I feel like OP owes ME money for having to read such a stupid request
This is sarcastic, right?
High schooler mixologist?
They know how to mix beer with more beer, and that's about it.
Untrue!
Also rum with cola and vodka with juice! Though perhaps not in the US
I think they're basically asking for a dirty soda bar and don't know.
And hey, don't undersell box wine and cola. You gotta adapt to what you can get.
I know you're joking but technically (at least in my state) high schoolers aren't allowed to serve beer. They're BARELY allowed to move boxes of it from one place to another, and definitely not to serve it. I think they have to be at least 19 and get a 'Limited bartender' license, I don't remember the exact requirements
Cheapo doesn't even offer exposure.
They do. There is talk about using the job in portfolios.
I’m sure she will tip a good 25% on the $0 invoice
If they didn't try to frame it like as a great opportunity but instead as a big favour to themselves then they might have a chance
oh yeah that reminds me of that dude who wanted me to write a book for $25 or sth