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lemmy.world

Red car was not watching the road at all - can see them hit the brakes just a frame before impact.

Glad they hit a car and not a fucking pedestrian. Should lose their license.

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Kairosreply
lemmy.today

A camera will not prevent a vehicle from entering an intersection.

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brianaryreply
lemmy.zip

It depends whether the threat of a ticket is a deterrent.

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Kairosreply
lemmy.today

Is it? I'll believe that red light cameras help when shown that it does.

In the meantime we can do things that actually make intersections safer like raising them/traffic calming.

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Almost like they’re not connected. Almost like a camera invading people’s privacy is separate from someone running a red light.

Can you tell the difference? Can you understand a camera on your ass isn’t the same as someone recklessly breaking the law?

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This is part of why I stand behind a telephone/traffic pole when waiting at a corner. We literally have to hide from the car violence that surrounds us.

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I hate to break out to you but most traffic poles and signs are designed to break away, so they won't help protect you much. You're post of the "clear zone" so idiots in cars don't die when they hit things on the side of the road when they are not paying attention to driving. I guess pedestrians are included in that. Telephone poles, on the other hand are not designed to break away. (Obviously trees too)

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lemmy.world

The bystanders just go around? No one jumps out to check on everyone?!

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lemmy.zip

How much do you want to bet that a sedan or wagon or anything other than a truck/SUV would not have rolled in that crash.

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Gonzakoreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, but then the car makers profit margin would be 99% instead of 100%. Gotta sell us deregulated stuff so they can make big bucks

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Car companies publish their profits, and they're well under 20%

edit: The official SEC fllings are a little dense for me, but Ford's investor slides for 2026 Q1 show an 8.1% EBIT margin. That includes all corporate overhead as well though. If you're talking vehicle manufacture price vs sell price, that will be higher

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dustyDatareply
lemmy.world

The sedan would've folded like a paper. The wagon would've liquefied the passengers inside. I hate cars and specially SUVs and trucks. But rolling to keep the passengers alive is not the problem with them. If passengers had a seatbelt on, they walked out of that tumble. It dispersed energy in a non deformable way. Sedans can be as survivable in the same scenario but the passengers would've been trapped inside a bubble of corrugated metal. Wagons are harder to survive. They are either too soft and crush the passengers, or are too stiff and transfer all the kinetic energy. Both kill the passengers.

Fuck cars in general though. Trains rarely get t boned.

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From ConsumerReports in 2014

A vehicle rollover is among the worst things that can happen to you on the road. Although rollovers occur in only about 3 percent of all serious crashes, they account for about 30 percent of people killed while riding in a passenger vehicle.

Yes tech and safety systems have improved in 12 years, and in this case the suv's passengers might have been fine, but I suspect rollover survival stats are still worse. That's not even taking into account how rolling vehicles travel farther while rolling, putting other people at risk.

That being said we're only talking about rollovers here. Head-on collisions are a totally different story when you pit an SUV versus a regular sedan. But those results are more related to the differences in front crash zone height. And that's only happening because car companies were allowed to categorize SUVs as "non-passenger work vehicles", avoiding safety and emissions regulations. Here's a great video taking about it from Climate Town

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The craziest for me is when the kid steps out: you may be distracted when you are alone (still no excuse) but at least focus when someone you care about is with you. Especially considering that there were other cars waiting at the red light

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mander.xyz

Oh, I assumed from driving through a red at speed, and then immediately bursting into fire. I should have noticed people managed to get out before burning to death.

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https://recharged.com/articles/ev-fire-risk-statistics-vs-gas-car/

Across recent 2023–2025 analyses, battery-electric vehicles see roughly 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles, while gasoline cars average around 1,500 fires per 100,000 vehicles. That’s roughly 60 times fewer fires for EVs.

chances of bursting into flames in an ICE car are much higher, but reporting on that would not collect eyeballs so EV headlines are what we end up reading. Capitalism bias.

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That smoke is from the chemical reaction that deploys the air bags (Which likely just denied a few people a Darwin award). That said it's also really awful to breath in, and the engine is likely still a fire risk.

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