Spyke

A friend of mine is a local artist and he made a painting of a MAGA hat but the words are “American was never fucking great”. I bought one from him the moment I saw it

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Contrast this sentiment with people like Snoop Dogg, dancing and apologizing for the firing squad.

Snoop can rap all day about being tough, but saying shit like this publicly is actual strength.

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lemmus.org

I get the point he is trying to make. But for the people he is trying to criticize - yes, it was good for them. Not good for a minority

Also, it tends to overlook what the MAGA people are trying to say. They want to go to back to being a respected world leader and not a disrespected one.

Granted we have earned it with our succession of poor leadership in Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.

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Clinton was the last president that actually practiced fiscal responsibility with a budget surplus. Granted, his scandal was appalling for its time, but it was a personal affair afaic, he probably doesn't need to be lumped in with the others.

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So much of good public policy depends on the lessons of the past being something at the forefront of everyone's minds when crafting, presenting, and voting for bills and electorate voting choices.

This meme is calling attention to another side to the same coin as the anti-vaccine nonsense. Ignorance of the lessons taught by the past opens the door for a new generation of con-men looking to sell the same snake oil to the gullible again.

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piefed.social

Micheal Moore did a video about this. He asked MAGoos of different ages when exactly did America's decline start. People born in the 1930's claimed America lost its way in the 1950's. People born in the 1940's thought it was in the 1960's. People born in the 1960's thought it was the 1980's.

Everyone of them thought that everything was fine until they reached adulthood...

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Until they first cashed a paycheck...

and lost the thread on how the roads, bridges, teachers, libraries and first responders they all rely on get funded. Don't be mad at that paycheck, be mad at the millionaire and billionaire fucks that steal your labor in exchange for pennies and make the laws that keep you down.

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inarireply
piefed.zip

I bet you'd get a similar answer from Millenials

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I grew up in conservatopia. IT has ALWAYS sucked, especially as I didn't have a "traditional" sexuality. I also had more feminine mannerisms because guess what, growing up in a house with 3 women you'll learn to do that.

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'92 here and everything was pretty good until my late 20's/early 30's.
Everything should have been great; my career was taking off, I'd just started a family, we were looking at buying our first house... And then everything went to shit. Inflation, wage stagnation, house prices tripling in my area. Fuck boomers, fuck billionaires, fuck landlords and fuck my government for letting this happen.

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My personal take is that there were three times the US took a giant wrong turn.

LBJ taking Vietnam from a small war to a massive one. He couldn't win, and it opened the door for Nixon to come in.

Reagan elected.

War on Terror.

Trump is the result of those three...

So when do you see that the hammer dropped?

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lemmy.world

I’m finding a sick sort of comfort in reading about the bush administration and how horrible I didn’t realize it was. A guy named scooter revealed a CIA asset out of spite because her husband disagreed with the Iraq War. What a shitshow.

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Aaah fitzmas eve and the lack of any consequences whatsoever.

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The only remotely honest thing "Make America Great Again" could mean is "roll back everything to the Obama era, i.e. before Trump, and then we can get started doing something about Reagan." And really that's more "Make America Kinda Okayish Domestically Again."

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sopuli.xyz

Well, rather obviously the explicit goal is to make America great again for fabulously wealthy white men.

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P1k1ereply
lemmy.world

Don't forget the Apartheid, they sure ain't taking that off the table

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Oh thank God. I came here just to upvote the person who posted this, and I has to scroll so long to find it that I was worried it would end up being me.

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MAGA means the America that inspired the Nazis...

It always has and it's always been super obvious as long as you know more history than taught in highschool.

What Jackson is talking about, isn't as bad as MAGA wants it to be.

They want the genocide of natives, enslavement of Africans, and the killing of any white person with the balls to stand up against them. They want 1930s/40s and eralier America, not 1960s during the civil rights fights.

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lemmy.world

Make American Great Again means they don't see what makes America great right now.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Anything that might have made this country great at one point died with Trump's reelection

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Pretty much everything MAGA wanted to get rid of were the things I actually liked about the country.

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lemmy.world

Didn't tump say that he was referring to the early 1900s when asked what he was referring to? Ya know the time period known as the gilded age that was rife with robber barons and no labor laws. The period which took wealth inequality to the max resulting in the great depression..

Maga has no clue what actually made America great..

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I saw entrepreneur, alpha male bro pages (probably AI-made) on Instagram stating that childhood is a modern concept and deriding the fact that kids don't work anymore and all this "discovering yourself first" is utter bull. This is literally what the right has been advocating by slowly eroding workers and children's rights! They seriously believe that "the children yearn for mines".

Fucking psychopaths!

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gruereply
lemmy.world

The crazy thing is that back then was also the time of peak immigration at Ellis Island etc. Even if you try to give MAGAs the benefit of the doubt that they aren't trying to be evil, their ideology is just flat-out incoherent!

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Those were European migrants. Don't even bother trying to explain that they weren't considered "white" back then, it's not going to work.

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piefed.social

The people who want to "Make America Great Again" want to oppress minorities. If they could turn black people into slaves, they'd do it.

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lemmy.nz

They still do. Slavery isn't illegal, guess who is disproportionately incarcerated.

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I'd go as far as say that slavery just exists in other forms. The current version is wage slavery and debt slavery.

Whether using the truck system or the sharecropping system or exploiting child workers or exploiting migrant workers, we've never really stopped driving the US economy with bonded servitude. We just don't call it slavery.

In the meantime, SCOTUS has just reaffirmed that corporations have rights, but human beings do not. At this point I wonder if there's going to be a country left even if the Democrats get back into power and actually attempt to save society.

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