Niger says France amassing troops, equipment in ECOWAS states
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In the end all that matters is does Nigeria want to fight this war or not. They're the ones that'll be paying for it in blood and treasure. France is a sidenote. They're not going to die over this.
Nigeria was the country that threatened to lead the military intervention against Niger.
Nigeria is, by far, the biggest country in ECOWAS. If ECOWAS militarily intervenes in Niger, it'll be Nigeria that is able to supply the bulk of the money, equipment, and manpower
I'm aware of that.
Niger's junta knows this how?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Russians were feeding them intelligence
You're getting downvoted, but the Wagner Group has a stake in this coup being successful and the group has ties to the Russian government.
Yeah I dunno why people find that so hard to believe. They have a clear interest in propping up this coup.
There is a difference between a clear interest and moral reason. There is a clear interest.
I realize now the lemmygrad folks are here so that prob explains the downvotes
It is really hard to sell a liberation foreign policy when the group doing so is getting paid by strip mining the land in compensation for their services. Well, unless West is bad and always bad, but it is really hard to sell moral superiority by being mercenaries.
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France about to do a colonialism again
So far a leader of a military group, which has just overthrown a democratic elected leader, which cooperates with the Wagner group to secure their might, claims that France is doing that.
I would put a big question mark behind that claim and wait for reliable sources.
Democratically elected my ass. The popular support for the coup, however misguided it is, seems overwhelming among the locals
We the french have no right to force a democracy upon them. Doesn't matter how stupid we think this is
Russian propaganda did a good job there. I lough if they think Russia will solve their problems.
They haven't overthrown any democratic elected leader, the only person they've overthrown was Bazoum.
France about to depose a military coup? Recall this is the junta that deposed Niger's president that is claiming France is going to invade.
Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell which side is the good one here.
If the end goal of either side isnt the redistribution of the countries wealth, increasing health, education and housing programs then they can both get fucked
Based
Yeah, fully admit all I really know is that the deposed president was democratically elected, that the military junta was not, that Russia is suspected of BS, and that the migrant issue is potentially involved.
The first one is the important one to me, that its a Ecowas sanctioned military dictatorship making the claim that Ecowas is going to invade with France's help.
The thing is europe and the west in general is bleeding africa of it's ressources and even though it topples a democraticly elected president the goal they claim is to free themselves of postcolonialism wich could be very good for africa. But yeah always hard to know woch side tells the truth...
I'm french and mostly live in a cave so I have no idea. I only know the basics of the problem.
I'm french and mostly live in a cave so I have no idea. I only know the basics of the problem.
Just one change and you've got Ukraine.
That’s just bullshit - but you already know that - don’t you?
So the Nazi military junta that seized power in Ukraine was democratically elected? Is that what you're trying to tell me?
Or that the illegally ousted president was never democratically elected?
Explain yourself.
Zelensky's government was not the result of the 2014 revolution. It was elected in 2019.
Be quiet now.
Yet another Lemmygrad Liar ruining the fediverse with your authoritarian propaganda.
Siding with the democratically elected leader is generally a good choice.
Not so simple when everyone in the country instantly started chanting that the coup liberated them from french influence and protesting at our embassies
Awaiting proper stats but just asking people in the streets what they think about it all tells a different story about the previous regime
As a French I don't know either, especially looking at our history
Because there's never one?
wonder why the downvote, we sure would like to thing that there's a bad and a good one, much easier, but most nation are acting for their own profit first, not by pure heart
France used to control Niger the same way that Russia controlled Ukraine. Now that Niger and Ukraine are independent countries, I'm sure the response to both will be consistent.
Lol what? Did you miss the leaked call revealing that the 2014 coup was to make Ukraine a US puppet state?
I'm French and I wish this would be true. We would be able to give Russia what it deserves there.
That's fine, I feel that.
It's a shame how many people think brown people need to solve their own problems.
I don't care much about Niger itself. They're grown up. If they want to shoot themselves in the foot with a military dictatorship, so be it.
But Russia is doing a big propaganda campaign in Africa to kill the reputation of France. Granted France did a big part of the job by itself, but still.
I don't know why Russia is doing that. I guess it's free real estate for them, seeing how France influence there is flinching for some times now.