Spyke
lemmy.world

In Catholic theology, anyway, Satan is not the boss of hell. He is a prisoner in it just like everyone else, just more notorious than the rest.

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piefed.world

In John Milton‘s Paradise Lost, he’s practically a hero (specifically, an anti-hero) and one of the most sympathetic characters in literary history. Milton got into a lot of trouble for it at the time.

In Dante‘s Inferno, the ninth circle of hell is Satan, frozen solid, in a block/pit of ice.

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Why didn't Satan use the brimstone fires of hell to melt the ice? Is he stupid? /jk

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lemmy.world

But then why would a prisoner want to bring more people into prison? Because misery loves company? If I were Satan, I wouldn't want my oppressor to get more playthings.

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sopuli.xyz

According to some versions of the lore, it's because he wants to corrupt God's creation out of jealousy. If he couldn't get it his way, it should all burn.

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piefed.world

Specifically from Milton‘s Paradise lost, Lucifer is outraged that, when God created mankind, he gave them something he never gave the angels: the free will to choose whether or not to worship God. Angels, the original creation of God, and who were supposed to be perfect, were never given the free will whether or not to worship God. From their creation, they were always forced to worship God.

It was Lucifer‘s argument that, of course, he would choose to, were he actually given that choice. He went to God and demanded that angels be given the same choice as mankind, and God basically told him to go fuck himself. That angels are perfect, and to imply otherwise by suggesting he give angels any kind of choice was, itself, blasphemy.

And thus the war of heaven began, splitting half of the angels of heaven against the other half in a war that lasted millennia. Eventually, the angels that fought for freedom, led by Lucifer, were cast out of heaven into a newly created realm called hell. In their fall, which landed them in hell so very hard, it twisted and mutilated all of them. And that’s how demons were created.

So, this is the motivation of Lucifer, now called Satan, to constantly tempt humankind away from the glory of God, and to choose to worship something else. To tempt humankind into sin... Because they can choose. It’s not so much out of jealousy, but out of spite.

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The most confusing part of this is that Lucifer was able to make the choice to say "wait, this is fucked up." If they were truly forced to worship God, no angel would have been able to say that 🤷

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lemmy.world

Why do people just GIVE their soul to Jesus when Satan is willing to pay you for it?

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lemmy.world

Satan doesn’t want your soul. He wants you to use it for yourselves.

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piefed.world

Technically, he wants to use it to get back at God for casting him and his buddies into hell in the first place.

It’s complicated

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7uWqKjreply
lemmy.world

Depends upon whether you subscribe to Christian propaganda, medieval literature, or modern-day non-esoteric Satanism.

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Oh, I definitely prefer John Milton‘s version from Paradise Lost. It’s by far the most interesting, and, at least, consistent. However, reading it was a fucking nightmare. Eat my ass, iambic pentameter. I never would’ve gotten through it without the annotated version from Norton’s Anthology of English Literature.

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lemmy.world

Satan isn’t evil. He is to God what Linux is to Windows: Freedom, independence, choice, responsibility. No wonder those in power want their sheep to believe otherwise.

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Ignotumreply
lemmy.world

Linux and Windows are but two sides of the same coin, mere tools of evil created to lure us away from the divine perfection that is TempleOS 🙏

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lemmy.wtf

he isnt

he is tempting them to sin

but when the time comes

he will be thrown into the abyss

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You know what? They've already lost it. It's gone, BUD! Whatever it is, whatever they were... Gone. He who looks into the abyss realizes that there's nothin' looking back at him and the only thing he sees is his own character. You understand? Bud? The abyss? The shit abyss?

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You reached the end

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