Spyke

There are a few links to short videos in the article, but are there any torrents or similar things suitable for mirroring so all the footage can be retained by activists internationally?

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Hmm, that's a shame. Are there no anti-SLAPP laws that could be applied to this?

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In Germany, apparently not yet. According to the article there is a German group campaigning for an anti-SLAPP law which has taken interest in the case.

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slrpnk.net

Didn't read because link and topic, but since it's Germany I wonder if they're using some blanket ban on mentioning gas chambers as the excuse to keep gas chambers hidden.

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Sorry, but how the fuck did you come to the idea that there is a ban to mention gas chambers in Germany?

And since you didn't read the article:

The article is bad in that regard, because it only talks about the decision, but not about the lawsuit itself. Wasn't even easy to find, since most articles are just like this one. But the slaughterhouse sued for the damage of the break in to be paid (fair in my opinion) and for the stop of the distribution of the videos. As far as I could find it, because it is damaging to their image. Which... Is completely bonkers and it is really bad that they got the judge to agree with them. If you get filmed doing bad but legal things, you should not be able to sue in my opinion, but I'm not a lawmaker.

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slrpnk.net

The footage is linked in the article. The animals are clearly panicking and stressed.

.. pigs fighting for their lives as CO₂ flooded the chamber. Struggling to breathe. Panicking. Bloodying their heads against the walls. Screaming.

Just because some people do things one way in Denmark that doesn't mean everyone in Germany does it the same way.

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I remember seeing a video of a pig in a gas chamber who literally ripped their fucking leg off while thrashing around. Humane? Fuck no.

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thats so sad, ive not eaten meat for 6 years or so but i dont know how to handle this evil

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lemmy.ml

From the article:

What they captured was the first footage of its kind ever recorded in Germany: pigs fighting for their lives as CO₂ flooded the chamber. Struggling to breathe. Panicking. Bloodying their heads against the walls. Screaming.

This is not an accident or an aberration. CO₂ stunning triggers an immediate, severe burning sensation in the mucous membranes of the nose, throat, and eyes. The animals experience intense pain, acute suffocation, and terror — for up to a minute before losing consciousness.

I believe, there's a way to gas pigs that just makes them sleepy and then pass out. I think, it was by using nitrogen. But yeah, that's not commonly done.

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for up to a minute

I'm not too well versed in animal physiology, but for humans it's closer to 3-4 minutes. And panicking doesn't influence the speed or terror much.

Drowning in water and suffocating with CO2 are the worst feelings of dread in existance. Animal or human, period.

And panicking won't speed it up, nor will doing medidation slow it down much since the body literally fights for its life and the adrenalin makes you very much awake and hyperalert during pretty much the entire process.

I think, it was by using nitrogen

You think right.

When panicking for lack of oxygen, the nervous system (mamallian and human alike) doesn't actually look for the lack of oxygen for some reason, but for the overabundance of certain "common displacers". Such as water and CO2. And that's pretty much the exhaustive list.

Nitrogen doesn't cause a panic response. Neither does CO (carbon monoxide).

You don't feel anything if you're suffocating in nitrogen or are poisoned by CO for a few minutes. Then you might feel a bit drowsy for some 10 seconds right before you lose consciousness.

Then you don't feel anything again. A few more minutes, and you're gone without even knowing.

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I believe, there’s a way to gas pigs that just makes them sleepy and then pass out. I think, it was by using nitrogen. But yeah, that’s not commonly done.

IIRC, it's literally any other gas except CO2 - the human body detects suffocation not by the lack of oxygen in blood, but the presence of carbonic acid (which is acidic). Since every other gas doesn't create carbonic acid (except maybe some gases that contain carbon?), they all silently/painlessly kill.

Nitrogen, argon, or hydrogen would all work and be fairly cheap. Hydrogen would be explosively flammable though, so you could combine two steps into one!

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CO2 is also denser than air, which means it stays in the "pit" the animals get lowered into.

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Most likely. And actually humane gases would be rarer and more dangerous to ... well, humans working there.

CO^2 is The gas that causes panic since that's what the body uses to regulate it's oxygen/carbon cycle. It's a built in alarm. Plus you can just vent it to atmosphere. And it's cheap.

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lemmy.world

I'd think you could build some machine to (re)harvest nitrogen from the air and it would eventually be free. But maybe that doesn't exist / super hard to do...

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Or you could just run a pipe from the building's furnace or generator exhaust to the pig-gassing room and use the CO2 your facility is already generating.

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feddit.org

❤️ stabbed right in the heart ❤️

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