i will continue disagreeing. i think they need to see the damage first hand. they deserve to be stripped of power and fame, prevented from ever gaining it back, and permanently marked to live in misery for the rest of their lives.
At this point you are denying reality because such evil is incomprehensible to a functional well adjusted person like yourself. Broken people who need to be disposed of exist. Your ideals don’t change that oppressively sad fact.
I would argue people deserve to die if they're sufficient net negative to society. I believe Musk is one of these, as are most, if not all, seriel killers. The issue is determining who these people are, which we won't all agree on. I don't think the state should have this power because they get it wrong too often (and also I think their incentives are usually wrong and they benefit from protecting the wealthy).
i woulh rather they be made to personally deal with all the consequences of their actions. do unto others. death is easy, but making these people grasp what they have done is hard.
unfortunately there's no real way to do that.
not believing anyone deserves to die doesn't mean i don't approve.
It should be nationalized. It does do some good things. It just does a lot of harm while doing so. It should be allowed to keep operating, but for the public good.
yeah unfortunately musk has gotten that idea that you can't have a mars colony unless you also have fully autonomous robotic workforce there to build everything ... i don't agree.
I like the video of researchers experimenting on social behavior in monkeys where they gave one monkey a banana who was happy until they gave another monkey a cherry in view of the first. That first monkey lost his shit and started screaming at the researcher by being visibly frustrated in his cage.
That's us, except we are losing our bananas, while the other one is getting the entire cherry orchid.
It’s good to know we learned the obvious and valuable lesson Howard Hughes and the dangers of concentrated wealth have taught us multiple times over throughout the past, because it would be really fucking stupid for the world to repeatedly enable that exact same situation over and over again, that would be really disappointing.
I mean, in the simplistic case of monkeys, this doesn’t work because the other monkeys starve, which is a failure as a species.
The monkey would have to hoard just enough bananas that the other monkeys can still barely their basic desires, while keeping them hungry for more and letting them believe they could one day be like you and get as many bananas by working their way up an imaginary hierarchy, where the way to go up is to fuck over other monkeys and get you as many bananas as they can, while you give them the minimum possible share.
You know that number is entirely theoretical, right?
If he were to sell all of his stock tomorrow, it would tank the value immediately and he'd never get even close to half of that money (probably far less).
It's not as insane because there is a significant difference between liquid and illiquid assets in how these can affect the world. However, regardless of how it compares, people owning more than a billion is one more sign our global economic system is very broken (and trillion even more so).
I didn't say that. I said nobody should have that much wealth. If the business is worth that much, no one person should own that large of a stake in it because it's apparently a very important business.
We should probably disect Elon for science ..
We should probably disect Elon
for sciencefor the betterment of humanityi am on the record as saying that nobody "deserves" to die, but i can get behind a noble sacrifice in the name of scientific advancement.
Someone responsible for the deaths of millions of people (remember USAID?) deserves to die.
i will continue disagreeing. i think they need to see the damage first hand. they deserve to be stripped of power and fame, prevented from ever gaining it back, and permanently marked to live in misery for the rest of their lives.
Seeing the suffering makes him happy not miserable. He is fully aware of what he is doing.
only because he's removed from it
At this point you are denying reality because such evil is incomprehensible to a functional well adjusted person like yourself. Broken people who need to be disposed of exist. Your ideals don’t change that oppressively sad fact.
look, i'm not saying it wouldn't be good.
I would argue people deserve to die if they're sufficient net negative to society. I believe Musk is one of these, as are most, if not all, seriel killers. The issue is determining who these people are, which we won't all agree on. I don't think the state should have this power because they get it wrong too often (and also I think their incentives are usually wrong and they benefit from protecting the wealthy).
i woulh rather they be made to personally deal with all the consequences of their actions. do unto others. death is easy, but making these people grasp what they have done is hard.
unfortunately there's no real way to do that.
not believing anyone deserves to die doesn't mean i don't approve.
I mean... as long as he's just dead all is well
I would like to watch it when he's still alive
You'll find nothing but Nazi despair inside.
you wouldn't physically see that
Completely unrelated question, how long has it been since the last time we had a vivisection?
Wasn't there a study where a hoarding monkey got severely beaten by the other monkeys ?
To shreds, you say?
How rich does someone have to be before their physical body is torn to shreds in front of a cheering crowd? Purely theoretical question
Absolute weath is not the real measure. Rockefeller was worth 600bn in today's money.
Inequality is what is more important
yeah and look what happened to them, spacex should be disbanded.
SpaceX has a decent COO and business model. It's not worth 1trn though.
It should be nationalized. It does do some good things. It just does a lot of harm while doing so. It should be allowed to keep operating, but for the public good.
Nasa should get to use it for free.
SpaceX does but X.ai, X, and all the other shit companies he umbrella'd under it and not worth it. That's what I meant by disband
yeah unfortunately musk has gotten that idea that you can't have a mars colony unless you also have fully autonomous robotic workforce there to build everything ... i don't agree.
Depends on how powerful they are.
I’m sure millions of Ukrainians would love to tear billionaire Putin to shreds, they just can’t get at him.
The other monkeys would kill the hoarding monkey and take his bananas. Maybe the monkeys have it figured out.
Eat and masturbate all day
Sleep in a tree
Occasionally violently murder others causing you distress
Yeah, I think they have it pretty figured out. We fucked it up
We never should of gotten down from the trees. Big mistake
With humans, the monkeys with atleast one banana defend the banana hoarder because they want to kill the starving monkeys.
Musk = POS Nazi.
I like the video of researchers experimenting on social behavior in monkeys where they gave one monkey a banana who was happy until they gave another monkey a cherry in view of the first. That first monkey lost his shit and started screaming at the researcher by being visibly frustrated in his cage.
That's us, except we are losing our bananas, while the other one is getting the entire cherry orchid.
Throw him to the Tigers, kitties are hungry. :3
The brief period of democracy is over for the West. It is incompatible with wild wealth disparity.
It’s good to know we learned the obvious and valuable lesson Howard Hughes and the dangers of concentrated wealth have taught us multiple times over throughout the past, because it would be really fucking stupid for the world to repeatedly enable that exact same situation over and over again, that would be really disappointing.
We already have scientists who study parasites. Muskrat is a parasite.
I mean, in the simplistic case of monkeys, this doesn’t work because the other monkeys starve, which is a failure as a species.
The monkey would have to hoard just enough bananas that the other monkeys can still barely their basic desires, while keeping them hungry for more and letting them believe they could one day be like you and get as many bananas by working their way up an imaginary hierarchy, where the way to go up is to fuck over other monkeys and get you as many bananas as they can, while you give them the minimum possible share.
How much is 1.33 trillion meme-coin in USD?
About tree fiddy
i like her argument and all but...
now that elon-monkey is here, she-monkey should tell them other monkeys where those scientists should be~
Bananas are perishable, so yeah it’s kinda dumb to hoard them unless you are planning to bake a lot of banana bread. Mmmmm banana bread!
Those monkeys are too busy hammering away at typewriters to bake, SMH
Elon Musk doesn’t sit on a literal mountain of money like a dragon on gold.
Elon isn't hoarding cash
Owning 1.3T of anything is a hoard by definition. I would be surprised if anyone at any time in history has ever owned a trillion of anything
You know that number is entirely theoretical, right?
If he were to sell all of his stock tomorrow, it would tank the value immediately and he'd never get even close to half of that money (probably far less).
So no one is own to own a company? Because that is all his wealth. It's stock shares.
No one person should have that much wealth. Correct.
It's crazy that you think someone can't own a business
Genuinely asking what's the difference?
Like sure liquid $1T would be insane for one person to have, but a $1T company is equally as insane
It's not as insane because there is a significant difference between liquid and illiquid assets in how these can affect the world. However, regardless of how it compares, people owning more than a billion is one more sign our global economic system is very broken (and trillion even more so).
A 1 trillion company trading at 350 p/e tells you everything you need to know about how liquid the market would be if he tried to sell it all
somehow =
what a fucking idiot
He doesn't have a trillion dollars. Are you an idiot?
Buddy you love licking boots
Come back to the comment in four months.
Yes, I can see the future.
I didn't say that. I said nobody should have that much wealth. If the business is worth that much, no one person should own that large of a stake in it because it's apparently a very important business.
because most of the other
monkeyshumans aren't starvingeasy
next
I have bad news for you: 1 in 11 people worldwide faced hunger in 2023, 1 in 5 in Africa
Africans should attack their trillionaires or something then
Indeed my friend, they should.
Tell that to the children of Palestine who get shot in bread lines by evil Zionists.
you already said shooting starving children.. zionist and evil both feel a little redundant
The person I replied to consistently denies that such atrocities even happen so subtly is not an option.