For anyone wondering these are, legally speaking, ebikes. As in they squeezed a delivery truck into the legal definition for a bike to be able to use bike lanes.
Edit: So does that mean they can legally park in all the bike lanes? Is the bike lane even usable by bicycles any more, or has it just turned into Amazon's exclusive shipping lane?
In Europe these 'cargo bikes' are being accepted quite well. I don't mind them. They're slow, low carbon footprint, child safe... So why not? They do take up a lot of space but that's because the cycle path is too narrow. More cyclepaths so cargo can be delivered by bike. That's what we need.
So this asshole is dickish with his reply, but I call them a fucko and I'm the asshole, alright. ANYWAY.
I wasn't saying shit about having more bikes. How is this not obviously a huge win for amazon, tiny cars or not. You think this was the intent behind the bike lane laws? Abso-fuckin-lutely not.
You're OK? Mind you that I'm from the EU and a daily bike commuter. I ride 25 km to work, every single day, and am very sensitive to the bike/car discourse.
I really don't see the issue so please explain without getting rude.
The bike lane is usable. I mean, for about a half-a-block at a time, cause of the parked cars.
I wish NYC would allow citizens to take a video of a car parked in the bike lane for more than a minute, issue a ticket, and make it profitable for the ticket issuer. All of the problems would go away overnight.
And actually, I wish we could take videos of cars going through red lights. Or, LOL, illegal u-turns. "Go around the block" is not a thing anymore. Everyone just turns around wherever the fuck they are.
If it's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=483oaUU1tIs then the entire vehicle is built to the exact limits of e-bike laws. For example you can theoretically propel that thing by pedalling even if it is never intended that the 'rider' would do so.
just wondering if a big chunk of NY delivery/cargo vehicles were electric cargo bikes like that, would it be an improvement? (given that will force turning car lanes into bike lanes).
Not abusing a sentience in another country so you can have your funco pops at home is also not nothing.
I'd like amazon logistics to be broken up and owned by the communities it inhabitants. But I'd also like that to happen to GM and Ford too. If you catch my drift.
but logistics wise, small electric vehicles, small enough to be considered ebikes is preferable to current car/van/truck fleets. as they have a greater human cost as well.
What about the batteries in the phone you are using? Or the gasoline that's manufactured using cobalt-based catalysts? Do you care about the children in mines that extracted those?
do you not know how big companies work? pressure to work as fast as possible and not care about the world around you ("externalize costs") comes from every level of the business.
board demands results
c suite creates the strategy and demands upper management fulfill it
upper management sets targets and uses funding allocation to pressure middle & lower management
middle & lower management pressure workers to hit/exceed targets, often by making them compete with each other
Amazon in particular uses "subcontractor" drivers who are paid less, have few/no benefits or protections, and who compete with each other on speed and other metrics. it's yet another reason to stop caring about the world around you.
If they’re moving along the bike lanes the way cyclists use them I don’t have big beef here.
If they’re then PARKING in the bike lanes to go make their deliveries, we have a problem. One that can be solved pretty easily considering these aren’t cars and are very light. Very easy to tip. Especially when they’re just sitting there abandoned in a flat bike lane.
Yeah, I just hope NYC is taxing the fuck out of those quadra-cycle-boxes. I know we aren't, but come on- Amazon trucks routinely park all day near my apt, blocking the bike lane and half of the road. Tax them, tax them, tax them.
ebikes are vehicles in the same way that motorcycles are as in they are not exclusively human powered. They belong in the normal lanes with the other non human powered vehicles. It's dangerous to riders in the bike lane legally when ebikes and other vehicles are whipping around because they want to skip the line. According to NYC law you are only allowed 750 watts max and 15mph limit to use the bike lane. They really need to revisit that because these are not safe to others in the lane.
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For anyone wondering these are, legally speaking, ebikes. As in they squeezed a delivery truck into the legal definition for a bike to be able to use bike lanes.
Well then we need to change the definition of ebikes. Either that or we only allow private personal vehicles to use the bike lane.
maybe better to consider them bikes encourage their use and replace more car lanes with bike lanes.
They are still better than cars.
That would mean a bike courier / delivery driver on an actually real bike would not be allowed anymore
There should be a common sense rule to laws. Like, sometimes you look at sobering and it’s obviously not right
In the Netherlands, delivery vehicles use bike lanes all the time, however, these are made by local manufacturers that aren't as big as this
For Example
Wtf for real?! Thats fucking wild
Edit: So does that mean they can legally park in all the bike lanes? Is the bike lane even usable by bicycles any more, or has it just turned into Amazon's exclusive shipping lane?
Can bikes park in bike lanes?
Beats the fuck outta me, but I wouldn't have thought those delivery vehicles would have been "bikes" either, fucko
In Europe these 'cargo bikes' are being accepted quite well. I don't mind them. They're slow, low carbon footprint, child safe... So why not? They do take up a lot of space but that's because the cycle path is too narrow. More cyclepaths so cargo can be delivered by bike. That's what we need.
So this asshole is dickish with his reply, but I call them a fucko and I'm the asshole, alright. ANYWAY. I wasn't saying shit about having more bikes. How is this not obviously a huge win for amazon, tiny cars or not. You think this was the intent behind the bike lane laws? Abso-fuckin-lutely not.
You're OK? Mind you that I'm from the EU and a daily bike commuter. I ride 25 km to work, every single day, and am very sensitive to the bike/car discourse. I really don't see the issue so please explain without getting rude.
The bike lane is usable. I mean, for about a half-a-block at a time, cause of the parked cars.
I wish NYC would allow citizens to take a video of a car parked in the bike lane for more than a minute, issue a ticket, and make it profitable for the ticket issuer. All of the problems would go away overnight.
And actually, I wish we could take videos of cars going through red lights. Or, LOL, illegal u-turns. "Go around the block" is not a thing anymore. Everyone just turns around wherever the fuck they are.
If it's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=483oaUU1tIs then the entire vehicle is built to the exact limits of e-bike laws. For example you can theoretically propel that thing by pedalling even if it is never intended that the 'rider' would do so.
Park?
probably like the ones mentioned here rolling out in d.c.:
https://electrek.co/2026/05/17/amazon-is-deploying-these-massive-cargo-e-bikes-for-deliveries/
Yeah idk why they painted a bicycle on the Amazon Parking Lane
Oh no. Now we have justification for expanding bike lane infrastructure.
Wanted to bitch about it with everyone else. but you singlehandedly changed my mind.
Fuck Amazon, but more bike infrastructure is good.
They want to use the bike lane so they don't have to follow traffic laws.
Bike infrastructure is good, capitalism still bad.
I don't disagree with you at all.
just wondering if a big chunk of NY delivery/cargo vehicles were electric cargo bikes like that, would it be an improvement? (given that will force turning car lanes into bike lanes).
Theoretically it would be less asthma for children that's really not nothing.
But the batteries for those ebikes almost certainly come from children in mines.
It all ends up as borrowing from tom to pay peter back when amazon is involved.
Ebikes take much less resources than cars. Complaining about reducing the resources and energy needed for transportation is disingenuous.
You cannot pull a "no ethical consumption under capitalism" to protect the current status quo.
Not abusing a sentience in another country so you can have your funco pops at home is also not nothing.
I'd like amazon logistics to be broken up and owned by the communities it inhabitants. But I'd also like that to happen to GM and Ford too. If you catch my drift.
100%
but logistics wise, small electric vehicles, small enough to be considered ebikes is preferable to current car/van/truck fleets. as they have a greater human cost as well.
What about the batteries in the phone you are using? Or the gasoline that's manufactured using cobalt-based catalysts? Do you care about the children in mines that extracted those?
Yeah, what a shitpost 🥰
I don't know if you know this, but corporations are staffed by people who are in control of their own actions.
actually the board, C suite, and upper management are the ones who control what the employees do. maybe you've experienced this at your own job.
Yeah, the board called up that specific worker and told them to drive in the bike lane.
do you not know how big companies work? pressure to work as fast as possible and not care about the world around you ("externalize costs") comes from every level of the business.
Amazon in particular uses "subcontractor" drivers who are paid less, have few/no benefits or protections, and who compete with each other on speed and other metrics. it's yet another reason to stop caring about the world around you.
https://theconversation.com/the-unraveling-of-workplace-protections-for-delivery-drivers-a-tale-of-2-workplace-models-268164
If they’re moving along the bike lanes the way cyclists use them I don’t have big beef here.
If they’re then PARKING in the bike lanes to go make their deliveries, we have a problem. One that can be solved pretty easily considering these aren’t cars and are very light. Very easy to tip. Especially when they’re just sitting there abandoned in a flat bike lane.
"Do you maybe wanna go amazon tipping with me? 👉 👈🥺"
Did they buy a bunch of Model T's for deliveries?
Golf carts
Henry Ford is missing from his grave.
Yeah, I just hope NYC is taxing the fuck out of those quadra-cycle-boxes. I know we aren't, but come on- Amazon trucks routinely park all day near my apt, blocking the bike lane and half of the road. Tax them, tax them, tax them.
how is that an ebike it has 4 wheels
It looks like the bike lane ended right before the truck.
Yep. WTF the bike lane just ends and cars are signaled into moving there?
It is probably safer than just making cars cross the lane, but there's some transition missing there.
ebikes are vehicles in the same way that motorcycles are as in they are not exclusively human powered. They belong in the normal lanes with the other non human powered vehicles. It's dangerous to riders in the bike lane legally when ebikes and other vehicles are whipping around because they want to skip the line. According to NYC law you are only allowed 750 watts max and 15mph limit to use the bike lane. They really need to revisit that because these are not safe to others in the lane.