The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.
I also do this, but even before the recent turmoil I started losing confidence and trust. Brands know about this trick and they know how much consumers trust honest reviews by real people.
Generative AI like ChatGPT makes it easier than ever to flood subs with search-engine friendly posts and comments how awesome product X is...
True.. look at reviews too for instance. Feels like more and more of them are generated by their owners in different ways to trick people. Same with tracks on spoitfy and so on as well, companies script playing their tracks all the time so they'll end up higher in rankins.
It's really starting to be hard to find anything that's honest these days.
Agreed, although I do love that their own search engine was complete dogshit. That said, many of the posts I found really useful were at least five years old, sometimes as old as 12. In some ways it may be good for the knowledge base to update a bit. Actually, are Lemmy posts searchable the same way as Reddit?
Absolutely the best way to get answers to specific things. Avoids any paid blogs and questionable answers. Not to mention perfect for getting actual recommendations and reviews on things.
Here’s the thing, as much as I’m going to miss the convenience, I’m willing to suffer thru discomfort for not having that information readily available. LLMs now paired with web searches should be able to serve such content, and in the interim, I want something like Lemmy, a decentralized collection of instances with user generated content to grow, so that a single asshole ceo cannot ruin it for everybody else, particularly when the content in question is user generated and managed.
A lot of former Digg users felt the same way when they transitioned to reddit back in the day. It was a new and scary ecosystem, but it quickly became natural to use.
Digg proved that the switching costs to a new link-sharing platform are incredibly low. Huffman is about to find out just how low those switching costs are. He's right in the storm-eye of his Digg v4 moment, and probably only his resignation and complete re-work of the API plans can save the Reddit that was.
I finally got Mlem to work after fighting the iOS updater all night, and it's honestly much nicer to use than the web interface. It feels extremely reminiscent of Apollo for Reddit.
I just started using it, obviously needs more features but I like it more than the mobile page, I kept getting weird little glitches and losing my place in the page
Exactly. Reddit had the most comprehensive and fleshed out (third party) apps of any other similar platform that I know of. But with the exodus, I'm really hoping we can all breathe some life into some of the apps that we do have access to that weren't getting as much attention
I’m using mlem right now (you need to TestFlight it), and while being rough around the edges, it’s got potential, and it’s already better than the mobile web ui of Lemmy
Yeah! I'm still new to everything here, but nothing has yet broken to the point of un-usability. That's more than I can say for the official Reddit app. Lol.
Same here. If I can't use a 3rd party app to smooth over Reddit's shit-filled cracks then I'm done with it. Jerboa seems ok so far. I've also signed up for a Mastodon account, awaiting approval, so I may end up using Fedilab
You'll have to find me again sometime to let me know how Mastodon works for you! I've considered it, but I was never really that big into social media, except for Reddit. Twitter was never appealing to me, so I guess I may have some bias there, but at the same time I'd like to get more involved with the fediverse as a whole.
It is, and I'm thinking about using it via the app Hermit - it's really just a wrapper for the site, but it gives you a bit more of an app-like experience (its own icon, a customisable sidebar, various visual customisations).
I already use it for a football forum I frequent, and honestly I sometimes forget that it's not a native app.
I'm writing this on Jerboa, and it's pretty good, but I'm going to see if Hermit can match or better it.
EDIT - Just to add to this - since I posted I've discovered there's an update to Jerboa and it's already looking like quite an improvement.
I’m sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.
And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.
If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.
Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didn’t interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, I’m very apt to dive into any conversation.
I’m tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.
As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.
For now it’s great! I loved newspapers and was a co-editor on my high school paper. Reading and writing have always been favorite things for me to do. Thanks for your time in the newspaper business. Wonder how many here still seek the goodness of that medium that was also largely lost?
Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.
This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.
I definitely agree with this. I'm a very tech-savvy person and while I think I understand how it all works, I am confident there are plenty of people that will look at Lemmy and the fediverse and go "uhhhh...nope I guess?"
I guess the concept of fediverse is what will end up confusing people more than ever. There's a very good quick starter guide published on Lemmy that I found to be incredibly helpful. Including the clarification that content is accessible across servers but users cannot log in to other servers.
I also think it will be crucial how the app ecosystem for Lemmy shapes up. Most people will just be using an app to access their communities and won't care about the underlying fediverse structure.
Here's hoping for all the apps, which made Reddit what it is/was, to come to roost quickly for Lemmy!
That's a good point! Put a slick enough front end on a platform and the vast majority of new users won't care about the back end for sure.
You're absolutely right, the app ecosystem will be crucial to its success and keeping it around. Jerboa is fine, but it's fairly lackluster, and is the only Android client I've found. Not to discredit the dev/team for Jerboa at all, it's actually quite good, until you compare it to the various third-party Reddit clients I've been using for decades.
I'm hoping lots of growth for Lemmy and the fediverse and that with that, the app ecosystem scales well, too!
Here's hoping that the Lemmy API proxy can expedite a transition to allow these apps to stay useful after June 30th. It would be a beautiful sight to have diversity of clients here, and especially supporting the fediverse answer to Reddit instead of the centralized competition.
I would even be happy to see kbin growth because we on Lemmy don't lose out 😅
I completely agree. It was super confusing figuring out how to access communities from other servers, and I consider myself a very tech-literate person. The Digg -> reddit transition didn't require understanding a whole new paradigm when signing up.
My understanding is (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) instances/servers are like little towns with their own communities. But you're not limited to just your town and your communities. You're free to visit any town and join any of their communities.
I'm sure it's much more convoluted than that, this was just my simple understanding of it.
I think the communities within communities (multiple servers with their own communities each) issue can be abstracted away by a good app, the experience could look roughly the same as regular Reddit.
The fact that accounts are separated and individual to each server, in a way that you can't login with your current account into a different one and someone could poach your username, is what I see as a much bigger issue for casual users in the future.
The confusion is the signup process and front page
If when you joined instead of picking a user name it was username @lemmy.world or @beehaw.org then people would see it more like an email address.
Then when you reach the front page instead of showing server admin picks, it should show a list of popular communities across servers and then the alternative local version with some text at the top explaining multiple versions of some communities exist and you can subscribe to both.
Well you can subscribe to more than one, and it might be that some communities have different rules to others, for example one might be focused on news while another might allow self promotion or technical questions.
Putting it in terms of email is the simplest to me. And it works because email itself is federated.
You join a server (gmail, aol, yahoo, proton mail, whatever provider you choose), and from there you can communicate with any other email provider. You aren’t locked into only talking to gmail users.
It does make discovering new communities a little more difficult because they won’t show up for your local feed by default, but that can be handled down the road a little ways to put that all in the background and link all the servers so that the experience for the user is similar to how Reddit used to be.
Its not like email because when you open your email you dont accidentally wander into another email server where the only way to reply is by copy and pasting a nonobvious code and searching through an interface that isnt identified and doesnt work.
Email server were totally invisible to users and i wish everyone would stop bsing to the contrary. It is a backend conparison not of utility to end users.
Once subscribed to a community replies seem pretty seamless
At the moment an issue I have is links in the jerboa app don't open the community but instead open a web link to that instance which then causes problems with replying similar to what you described
Weeeeeeellllllll, there are a lot of former Reddit users here so you won't miss too much, I think!
Reddit's not what it once was, and won't be ever again if they continue towards IPO even if they walk back some or all of the proposed changes. I might visit occasionally to check up on things, but by-and-large I'm done with it.
If reddit does IPO I 100% for sure am buying puts. Only enough to the point if I lose the money it wont hurt me but enough money that if reddit tanks I can make a decent chunk if change.
I think it'll go up at first because they'll convince people all the whiners are 'just' superusers that make up 2% of the site, then tank when they realize that 2% is 50% of content and moderation.
What's the correlation with the IPO? Are they somehow pressurized so that IPO entry means they must get rid of third party integration and similar other feature changes?
It means their changes will be motivated to "cut waste" and squeeze every penny out of the goodwill of it's users, in order to appear profitable (despite Steve Huffman describing Reddit to the contrary).
I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.
Well, we are on the ground floor here. Let's find something that keeps the lights on and gives everyone the incentives they need to make a great community!
Perhaps a good start would be a page that gives statistics about the time and money required to run an instance. I really appreciate those who have dedicated their time money and reputation to start things up. Lets find a way to build a better social media experience together.
I think many of us would be OK with a number of different models, donations, non-intrusive ads, reasonable subscription fees, etc. Perhaps there could even be incentives for people who put time into building communities by moderating or other tasks. The important thing in my opinion is that everyone feels they contributed to the structure in a way that they want to keep participating.
Edit: I found a budget page from the donation link on the side bar of the main page of lemmy.world.
From a personal perspective, I would like to see a model where basic access is free. A 5$ a month fee is fine for you and me, but I think there are a lot of people who may not have that in their budget or who don't want the paper trail of payments (e.g. if they live in a country that is restrictive of free speech). I am really hoping that voluntary donations are sufficient, but I guess we will see.
Regarding ads, I almost always turn on an ad blocker because the ads I see are over the top and either obstructive or somehow offensive, so figuring out a way to monetize that isn't also horrible is kind of a delicate balance. Like, no autoplaying video/audio, for one.
Tip jars, things like possible user customizations allowable for those that donate above a certain threshold (so like, specific color callouts for donators of $x in the last month, or the ability to add highlights inline in comments, or something) and other incentives other than, y'know, getting your average user to understand that servers and time are things that need money to keep going. That said, that stat page would be super helpful on the main instance page, like maybe over on the side.
Yeah, reasonable ads are key. Moving/flashing things are a show stopper for me. Also, ads shouldn't track private information, I think its fine to base them on the contents of the current public info on a page, but tracking data across sites gets creepy. I don't like using ad blockers if I can avoid it, but many websites are completely unusable without it.
Honestly I’m fine with some amount of ads as long as they are unobtrusive and inoffensive. Either that or there’s a free tier with some minimal ads and a paid tier with no ads. Nothing outlandish though.
Unfortunately with the current structure of things, that's probably what will have to happen for a bit.
Lemmy is decentralized and federated and there are pros and cons to that system. One of those is that users expect a completely free experience. However, I have a server at home, but I have no way of scaling it. So despite there being a community I'd love to spin up, I can't because I have no way of scaling it.
Most people are going to have to go through Cloud providers for that, which can get pricey.
At least with Lemmy there's lots of different servers, each with their own running costs.
Each could try a different way of keeping the lights on. Some could run on donations only, some could use small unobtrusive ads on the side, some could do lots of ads. If any server does too little they'll go down due to lack of funding, if any server does too much the users will migrate elsewhere, as it's quite easy to make a new account on another instance and keep following the same communities.
Even if we end up with some large-scale instances with big servers, millions of users and serious money involved, they won't have a monopoly on all the content like with reddit, so the competition should keep them from doing anything stupid.
Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.
Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).
You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.
I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.
I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.
What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.
I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.
Good god, I suppose you're right. Basically some dude posted an AMA about how he broke both of his arms when he was 14 and his mom would help get him off.
Because up until now everyone would just link to the actual post but now it's down so I'm glad these youtube videos are still around now for sure! Also I am sad to see Reddit go BUT I like the idea of Federation much better so, all for the best!
Going forward any posts which vaguely related to incest or broken arms would invariably have comments referring to the original story.
As for the coconuts, there was a TIFU post about a guy who made a hole in a coconut and used ti to pleasure himself repeatedly. iirc he'd use it and then store it in his bedroom and one day he put his dick in it and it came out covered in maggots.
Broken arms was something about a teenager who had broken both his arms. I forget the exact way the conversation arrived at this but the joke is that his mom would help him jack off since he couldn’t anymore.
I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.
I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform
At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.
Even if they reneged on everything, I still wouldn't go back.
The problem with Reddit at this point is the quality of its users. It's next to impossible to find any kind of legitimate discussion because everything is buried under reddit-comedy and virtue signaling.
Most of the major subreddits have just become political tools for their mods. It scares me thinking how curated the posts are there.
I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.
I want the more the merrier as long as we can moderate the more toxic tendencies, but at this moment I'm also pleased that much of the folks and vibes are much like reddit when i first joined
I'm definitely in the right age bracket... Let's see how this goes. The good thing is that quite a few moderators are on board, so if we shut the large communities down long enough, that might flip a bunch of people over.
I'd love more time to ease into the transition and let Lemmy grow more naturally. So if they did that 180 I'd probably still visit Lemmy first each day, then switch to Reddit once I ran out of new posts.
Hopefully after a few months all my favorite things from reddit would get ported over
It's an interesting thought experiment, I even wonder that about myself. I started using reddit in 2007 and I don't like how attached to it I am, but I also can't deny it.
I don't think they'll 180 in any event unless there's a full management change (which has still failed in the past). Their hands are being forced by angry investor money, one of the most powerful forces in the universe, and they obviously have no clue what they're doing or how to respond... what competent business would pour gasoline on a roaring PR fire by repeatedly shoveling dishonesty and disrespect in everyone's faces?
There's an old saying, "don't shit where you eat".
Really hope people leave it to a great extent. Reddit doesn’t deserve the users if they lie like they do, and while reddit was easy and fun, a federated way of communicating seems more robust
Honestly better this way, the fediverse is much more resilient and future-proof than a site maintained by a group of people with the aim of making money and deciding the fate of their service, and I doubt that reddit becomes opensource and implements activityPub soon.
I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.
Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.
I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.
The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.
But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.
This is how I feel! Very few people I know IRL spend time on Reddit, and it was always fun for me to bring up something I found there. Lately, I have a couple of friends who do read our local subreddit and I enjoy discussing what we’ve read there.
I feel that whether or not I choose to go back, all the reasons I still went will be degraded after recent events. And frankly, that sucks.
Thanks for saying what I didn’t realize I was feeling!
I felt kind of bad last night knowing I might not ever be able to see my favourite subreddits again but honestly, I just moved to Lemmy and so far the community seems super nice and it's nice to be a part of something new and refreshing.
People actually feel like people here, not some randoms, if you know what I mean. Reminds me of the good old days where I had a bunch of forums I frequented instead of just Reddit. I like it!
Honestly it feels good to be a part of something new.
I'm only 20 y old, but seeing this forum style new thing pop-up with the internet and experiencing it in all its glory is actually really nice!
Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.
I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.
Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.
Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.
I feel the same way. I love how reddit had very active communities for pretty much all my interests. Lemmy is not bad but you have to make it happen and who knows if it will happen..
I'd go on a cull of subredits that ended out to be too memy / circlejerk monthly. Really there were some subs that I had a major interest in that had no meme rules everything else was some shitty out the gate default or something I thought was funny once upon a time.
For the most part lots of subs are fluffy fillers, designed to keep people scrolling and up engaged adding more of the same.
I'd be keen to see some lems cropping up around the place with a similar mindset, for now Reddit remains uninstalled.
It IS exciting. I really like what I see so far on Lemmy. There aren't 10,000 comments on every thread. I think it will be easier to gave real engagement with people.
It is kind of exciting to be involved in something like what must have happened when digg died and reddit started up. Are we going to get cake days here?
The Reddit owners seem committed to their course, so I don't think it matters how long the blackout is on that front, but a 1-2 day blackout will bring the issue to the attention to more users, prompting more of them to move to other communities and giving those communities enough traffic to be active.
Reddit is doomed. Nothing will change that at this point. The focus needs to be on building the communities that will replace it.
I've seen several going indefinite, a few going a week or so, and the vast majority only committing to 48 hours. Even then, though, many of those are open to extending it.
The problem will be that, at least for the major subs, Reddit may just kick the current mods off and install others who will not continue the protest. It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.
Well, maybe. Maybe fucked for the time being. But part of me thinks the cat is now out of the bag. If Reddit doesn’t end up shitting on everyone now, surely they will at some point later down the line.
I don't think that will happen. Eventually, it will trun more into a microblogging platform, like FB or Twitter and this wil cater to the needs of your average Joe. It will lose some of it's userbase, but most communities will stay on it.
This is just the evolution of forums, ngl. We've moved from dislocated hobby groups to a consolidated place where anyone can find the forum they need, to realising the problem with pure consolidation.
Without reddit, I certainly would've been more ignorant yet less worried about my prospects in my country's job market when I haven't even started college yet.
Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.
I never got into Twitter and was freaked out by the content on Mastodon. I just want a nice chill community that shares interesting information/news/facts/pics.
well, for me at least, Mastodon IS an alternative to twitter, though it may change since it is federated (?) with lemmy?
And yeah, my mastodon account is just collecting virtual dust there lmao
Yeah but with old.reddit, third-party apps and well-curated subscriptions you could mostly ignore the bullshit new "features". Now they're trying to force-feed them to us.
This will be for the best propably. Now that reddit might finally collapse from their idiocy many people will move to here, which improves lemmy. Only regrettable thing about it is loss of information as either users will delete their posts or reddit will fuck everything up even worse some how.
Ive been on reddit since the beginning. Watched it grow and change. These things are always bittersweet but honestly I never thought it would last this long.
My internet history is litered with relics. All the way back to the phpbb web forums, irc servers, aim/aol chatrooms, and the BBSs before them.
I've been trying to encourage people and the communities I care about on Reddit to bridge to another social network for a decade. I am so, so happy it is finally happening.
I’m sure it’s a pipe dream atm, but I’m just hoping fediverse will have a unified method to look up archived posts across all platforms. Unfortunately, it’s probably very difficult to set up because indexing would take forever given the exponentially increasing amount of content. I used to use Reddit to look up a lot of video game info/memes. Reddit’s search engine was garbage, but at least I could find info from older game guides from 10+ years ago. My main concern is that a lot of indie game devs are directing people to talk about their games on Discord, which is terrible for archiving information.
With Google getting increasingly worse, reddit is usually where I find what I'm looking for in a sea of blog spam.
And while I personally think Discord is absolutely great as a chat plaform it is nowhere near close as being a reddit replacement. Everything posted in there is silo'd and not searchable from outside.
I think Google would still mostly prefer to provide the most relevant results. (When they aren’t trying to scrape data and keep you from ever actually visiting those sites). But SEO is always an arms race.
I’m hopeful that search engines will be able to leverage some AI soon to start surfacing higher quality results.
I never have nor will I ever use discord like that. I use it to voice chat for gaming and that's all. I don't understand people using it as some kind of forum, it seems too intrusive to me. I had to leave every community I joined that weren't my own private servers because I couldn't deal with all the notifications and private messages.
It seems to be working for me. Fediverse apps don't need to nessesarily be popular with the general public in order to be useful to us in nichie communities.
Same, I've been there since 2012. It's my go-to site for mostly everything and it's difficult to not click on that Reddit bookmark in my browser. This place is a bit empty right now but I'm hoping the blackout and people leaving Reddit will increase the traffic. I also joined Mastodon when Musk bought Twitter, so I'm all aboard the Federated train!
At least this place is easy to use if you are already familiar with Reddit, just have to adjust to using different servers instead of having everything in one central place.
I'm sad too. What's with these tech companies making the shittiest changes lately? I thought I'd be fine deactivating my Discord after their horrendous username change since I'd still have Reddit but now Reddit is going to become lower quality. I'll be active on here and Twitter since its fandoms are similarly, like Reddit, seperated by subtwitters (communities)
Seems a bit dramatic to completely abandon the platform over a username change though, especially since you can still use whatever nickname you want on the servers.
but imho think we'd have to agree that the dangers of one corp entity controlling a whole social media platfor (with twitter first and now reddit) are pretty clear.
our communities will coalesce again somewhere but until then we should adopt the spirit of curiosity and just enjoy these new experiences ❤️
I just logged out of my account and uninstalled the app (Sync) for the protest, only to realize that I needed an ELI5 30 minutes later... Hopefully my favorite/most useful subreddits manage to join Lemmy as well!
I need an ELI5 of how the fediverse and federated networks work. I'm trying to make some kind of guide/explanation (a "dumbed down" version so other people that are highly confused (like at was at the beginning) can understand, but I realized that I don't really understand it fully yet, so I needed some help from ELI.
But I'm in complete refusal and denial to enter Reddit at least until a week goes by.
You know how you can have an account @gmail.com and I can have an account @hotmail.com and we can still send each other emails? That’s because gmail and hotmail (and every other email server) talk to each other when you send an email between them.
The fediverse is just applying the same model to other services. Lemmy is this for a Reddit-like forum. Mastadon is this for a twitter-like feed. And so on.
This makes it nearly impossible for one company to “ruin” any federated service, the way twitter has gone under Musk and the way Reddit seems to be heading in advance of its IPO. Google might ruin gmail someday, but all you have to do is sign up for another email address somewhere else.
i wonder if the corporations will try to push to change laws in such a way it would cripple or outright prevent fediverse from functioning. That seems to be general way of things on how they handle competition they can't directly attack
It’s hard for me to imagine any legislation that could affect fediverse that doesn’t affect email (unless email is explicitly excluded from the legislation I guess), which is good because email is one of the few parts of the internet that even old farts understand. No chance they vote in a bill that kills e-mail.
I can help you out here! It's not easy to wrap your head around at first because of how accustomed we are to the centralised internet by now, but it's actually fairly simple. Let's take Lemmy for example, anybody can create their own Lemmy instance (e.x. Beehaw.org, lemmy.world, lemmy.ml) and basically have their own functioning Reddit clone website. The fediverse/federated network only comes into play when a bunch of these instances connect to one another. You can totally just have a Lemmy instance and not federate with any other instances, but if you do, they share content with each other. This content is copied over between the two, and regularly synced (there's some more complicated wiring happening in the bg to make this more real-time, but what happens is essentially a sync between the content of the instances). In the case of Lemmy, that means the directory of subreddits on one instance is exposed to the other instance. This extends to the posts and comments as well. When you see a post from another server in your instance, it means that the instance you signed up on is "aware" of the other instance and shared content with it, and when you comment on that post, your comment is created in your instance and then later on shared with the other instance (which is why you can comment on a post in another instance and see it in that other instance).
That's how Lemmy takes advantage of the "fediverse" but it's not the only one. You've probably heard of Mastodon, which does the same except with tweets. There are also efforts to replicate other social media, such as YouTube (see: PeerTube), Facebook (see Friendica, GNU Social, and Misskey), Instagram (see PixelFed), and I'm sure others as well.
Tl;dr the fediverse is just a bunch of independently-run websites that share content with each other.
Reddit hasn't been the same in years. I've been thinking about leaving for a long time now. Ever since subs started banning people for participating in the "wrong" subreddits, things have really gone downhill. People shouldn't be expected to do a background check on every post they want to comment on.
The things I could say but won’t. I’ll just leave it as, yes. I hate it!!!! I’ve been banned for the dumbest things from 2 subs, ran by the same girl. Once for promoting my sub, which ok, maybe I shouldn’t have done, and second because oh no!!!! I used a Reddit bot in my Discord server and I guess the chick thought I was copying her.
The thing that sucks is that now my sub is suffering and I’m weary od creating a BDSM subreddit because this doesn’t seem the place for that.
I was drawn to reddit in the early days for the uncensored and open pics, gifs of the arab spring horrors. I stayed with the promise of free speech, though I did welcome the clamping down on hate, anti lgbt+, and similar.
The thing is free speech should apply to all opinions, not just those you don't like. There are hate speech laws on the books but the bar is set high and it's done for good reasons. If someone incites violence or makes threats then they should be prosecuted. But being offensive does not meet the bar of hate speech.
Yeah. I used Reddit due to lack of choice. I never liked the way the Internet has become dominated by monolithic social media sites over the last few years, but you've got to go to where the people are if you want to participate in discussions. With Reddit self-destructing, enough people are moving to the Fediverse that it'll be able to build the kinds of communities that Reddit had and I'll be able to tick one more monolith off my list (the only ones I have remaining are YouTube and Twitch.)
I’m a late adopter of Reddit but it has been the only form of social anything on the web for me, so I will miss it. But I’m also really excited for the stuff here and being apart of something small. I was a longtime lurker on Reddit just because it was so intimidating, felt like it was easy to get put on blast if you accidentally did something wrong.
That's something I noticed a lot, too. I've used Reddit since maybe 2014 or so, I forgot when I made my first account, but even back then the hostility was so much lower. There are so many subs full of hate and I'm not sure where it comes from.
Already left Twitter for Mastodon when Elon Musk purchased it. I don't feel bad for leaving Reddit behind, nor do I feel sad. Spez has shown how incompetent he is both as a CEO and a person. I feel bad for the app devs, though.
I’m the same but still occasionally check Twitter because most of the people I follow are not on mastodon. There’s just not enough for me to engage there.
And Reddit was my main source of news so it’s difficult to leave behind. I’ve spent the past couple days browsing here to find similar things but again, not nearly enough engagement for me to fully drop Reddit. It will be a slow transition and I just need to remind myself that I was a Reddit user for 12 years and it was a similarly slow transition back then too
It was their crappy mobile UI and app that drove me to Relay for Reddit. Now that they're getting pushed out I'm done, it's going to hurt a bit but it's the right thing to do.
Some people I know from my fandom days are going back to tumblr. I cracked open my tumblr for the first time in 6 years the other day. There's a lot more ads now. :/
I joined in 2013, left in 2019. I remember watching what was foreign and corporate manipulation of threads via sockpuppet accounts increase over time. After that, every thread posted by an admin whose name was popping up as admin for several subreddits started eating at my impression that this was an "organic" community.
Signed off after killing my account in 2019. I lurked on and off without an account via 3rd party apps and the desire to rejoin the fray never returned.
I've happily been a part of the fediverse since on Mastodon and Pixelfed.
It is tragic. But on the plus side I think this transition will be a lot smoother than trying to leave twitter since here you don't have to individually find everyone you want to follow, just show up at the proper forums.
idk, i'm having kind of a hard time. i have a lot of niche subs on reddit that don't seem to be on lemmy. i feel like i did when i first started reddit and just saw all the default pics/music/gaming subs
Well it can't solve that stuff just not existing, but I think it's easier to find your preferred subs once they exist than all your old twitter contacts on a new site
You can still use Reddit, just now many users have a motivation to diversify their information platforms. Fediverse does that, and only ask that your new content, discussions, and questions be added in the fediverse instead. To help growth here.
For example, I curious about SFF PC building and, yup, Reddit already had a sub for that. If I have future questions I'll just post them on /m/technology instead.
Agree with the hive mind thing. Im hoping this would be like smaller communities where you get to communicate with actual people and have moderate opinions rather than only extremes one way or the other upvoted to the top
All of the subreddits I frequent all stated they're closing the subreddits down and deleting their accounts so there's no reason for me to be on Reddit anymore and I can't justify staying on the platform when Reddit is acting the way it is.
It's sad still, but now I'm trying to learn about fediverse and try new things.
Same for me. If they follow through shutting down, I'll have one whole sub left out of dozens I've found over the years. And while it's nice, it's nothing I won't be able to find here. Feels super weird to have no reason to use Reddit anymore, but the end of an era always feels weird.
Worst part is all the subs I really liked but didn't participate in myself, so I'm stuck waiting for someone else to start them up because I have no content of my own.
I am too. I really hope they at least make a compromise to allow third-party apps to function. I have spent years on Reddit, and I find it enjoyable for the most part. The amount of information on that site is incredible too. If it continues down the Twitter road it will be sorely missed.
How would people feel about posting their most upvoted OC from Reddit onto kbin/lemmy? It could be a good way to promote engagement for the first little while. We could have a tag for it or something?
I'm working on archiving and then removing my data from Reddit. I then plan to post that content in relevant... I want to say subs but that makes no sense anymore. I guess relevant magazines?
The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.
I also do this, but even before the recent turmoil I started losing confidence and trust. Brands know about this trick and they know how much consumers trust honest reviews by real people.
Generative AI like ChatGPT makes it easier than ever to flood subs with search-engine friendly posts and comments how awesome product X is...
True.. look at reviews too for instance. Feels like more and more of them are generated by their owners in different ways to trick people. Same with tracks on spoitfy and so on as well, companies script playing their tracks all the time so they'll end up higher in rankins.
It's really starting to be hard to find anything that's honest these days.
But you can check people’s comment history, at least for the time being it’s easy enough to notice if an account isn’t organic.
Agreed, although I do love that their own search engine was complete dogshit. That said, many of the posts I found really useful were at least five years old, sometimes as old as 12. In some ways it may be good for the knowledge base to update a bit. Actually, are Lemmy posts searchable the same way as Reddit?
They should be when the search engines have had time to index them. You can access them without loggin in so it should be fine?
Agreed, I feel like the social part of reddit is pretty easily replaceable but the amount of niche and specialised information was incredible
Isn't there the reddit archive project?
Really don't know tbh, could be useful but extremely storage heavy.
Absolutely the best way to get answers to specific things. Avoids any paid blogs and questionable answers. Not to mention perfect for getting actual recommendations and reviews on things.
The only thing that's usually better is the Arch Linux wiki but you sadly can't use that for everything. :)
Here’s the thing, as much as I’m going to miss the convenience, I’m willing to suffer thru discomfort for not having that information readily available. LLMs now paired with web searches should be able to serve such content, and in the interim, I want something like Lemmy, a decentralized collection of instances with user generated content to grow, so that a single asshole ceo cannot ruin it for everybody else, particularly when the content in question is user generated and managed.
I'm feeling pretty good about Lemmy, honestly. I wasn't sure how I was going to fill my downtime, but this and mastodon may just pan out for me
It’s still hard to transition ! Especially with a lack of good apps on mobile (at least iOS). It’s only the beginning
PS : It’s my first comment on Lemmy (yay!)
A lot of former Digg users felt the same way when they transitioned to reddit back in the day. It was a new and scary ecosystem, but it quickly became natural to use.
Digg proved that the switching costs to a new link-sharing platform are incredibly low. Huffman is about to find out just how low those switching costs are. He's right in the storm-eye of his Digg v4 moment, and probably only his resignation and complete re-work of the API plans can save the Reddit that was.
Reddit is dead, long live Fediverse.
Are you using Mlem on iOS? I keep switching back and forth between the mobile site and mlem. Not sure which I like better at the moment.
I finally got Mlem to work after fighting the iOS updater all night, and it's honestly much nicer to use than the web interface. It feels extremely reminiscent of Apollo for Reddit.
I just started using it, obviously needs more features but I like it more than the mobile page, I kept getting weird little glitches and losing my place in the page
Exactly. Reddit had the most comprehensive and fleshed out (third party) apps of any other similar platform that I know of. But with the exodus, I'm really hoping we can all breathe some life into some of the apps that we do have access to that weren't getting as much attention
I’m using mlem right now (you need to TestFlight it), and while being rough around the edges, it’s got potential, and it’s already better than the mobile web ui of Lemmy
Have you tried using the mobile site? App selection on Android isn't the best but the mobile site is actually pretty good.
Jerboa on Android seems pretty easy to use so far.
Yeah! I'm still new to everything here, but nothing has yet broken to the point of un-usability. That's more than I can say for the official Reddit app. Lol.
Same here. If I can't use a 3rd party app to smooth over Reddit's shit-filled cracks then I'm done with it. Jerboa seems ok so far. I've also signed up for a Mastodon account, awaiting approval, so I may end up using Fedilab
You'll have to find me again sometime to let me know how Mastodon works for you! I've considered it, but I was never really that big into social media, except for Reddit. Twitter was never appealing to me, so I guess I may have some bias there, but at the same time I'd like to get more involved with the fediverse as a whole.
Best of luck to you!
It is, and I'm thinking about using it via the app Hermit - it's really just a wrapper for the site, but it gives you a bit more of an app-like experience (its own icon, a customisable sidebar, various visual customisations).
I already use it for a football forum I frequent, and honestly I sometimes forget that it's not a native app.
I'm writing this on Jerboa, and it's pretty good, but I'm going to see if Hermit can match or better it.
EDIT - Just to add to this - since I posted I've discovered there's an update to Jerboa and it's already looking like quite an improvement.
Hello from Hermit. It works amazingly well, I'm liking it better than Jerboa
Nice one! I've not yet really tried it for Lemmy, Jerboa's still doing the job for me, but I will do at some point. Glad it's working out for you :-)
Except for the constant pestering to use the app that has been going on since about September last year. It's why I went to Relay
I’m sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.
And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.
If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.
Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didn’t interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, I’m very apt to dive into any conversation.
I’m tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.
As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.
For now it’s great! I loved newspapers and was a co-editor on my high school paper. Reading and writing have always been favorite things for me to do. Thanks for your time in the newspaper business. Wonder how many here still seek the goodness of that medium that was also largely lost?
For sure, but what makes Reddit special are the users, the content, and the discussions. The admins add no value.
We can recreate the communities in a distributed and federated way so that we never find ourselves in the same situation again.
This. One thousand percent - this.
We are ground floor. Be active! Make this the community you want it to be!
Hear hear!
Pretty sure community admins add value in well run subs, but I take your point.
Those are moderators, not admins. The moderators add a ton of value, both on Reddit and here.
The admins (Reddit corporate employees) do not add value.
This reminds me so much of the mass digg exodus of 2010. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.
Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.
This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.
I definitely agree with this. I'm a very tech-savvy person and while I think I understand how it all works, I am confident there are plenty of people that will look at Lemmy and the fediverse and go "uhhhh...nope I guess?"
That's unfortunate.
I guess the concept of fediverse is what will end up confusing people more than ever. There's a very good quick starter guide published on Lemmy that I found to be incredibly helpful. Including the clarification that content is accessible across servers but users cannot log in to other servers.
I also think it will be crucial how the app ecosystem for Lemmy shapes up. Most people will just be using an app to access their communities and won't care about the underlying fediverse structure.
Here's hoping for all the apps, which made Reddit what it is/was, to come to roost quickly for Lemmy!
That's a good point! Put a slick enough front end on a platform and the vast majority of new users won't care about the back end for sure.
You're absolutely right, the app ecosystem will be crucial to its success and keeping it around. Jerboa is fine, but it's fairly lackluster, and is the only Android client I've found. Not to discredit the dev/team for Jerboa at all, it's actually quite good, until you compare it to the various third-party Reddit clients I've been using for decades.
I'm hoping lots of growth for Lemmy and the fediverse and that with that, the app ecosystem scales well, too!
Here's hoping that the Lemmy API proxy can expedite a transition to allow these apps to stay useful after June 30th. It would be a beautiful sight to have diversity of clients here, and especially supporting the fediverse answer to Reddit instead of the centralized competition.
I would even be happy to see kbin growth because we on Lemmy don't lose out 😅
I’m pretty dumb and I haven’t been confused. I just got here, subbed to a bunch of stuff, and my subscribed list is full of clickable subs to go to.
It’s very ‘Reddity’ in that respect as far as I’m concerned. I’m not lost at all.
On the upside, it at least limits participants to people who really want to be here.
Absolutely a good point!
I completely agree. It was super confusing figuring out how to access communities from other servers, and I consider myself a very tech-literate person. The Digg -> reddit transition didn't require understanding a whole new paradigm when signing up.
My understanding is (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) instances/servers are like little towns with their own communities. But you're not limited to just your town and your communities. You're free to visit any town and join any of their communities.
I'm sure it's much more convoluted than that, this was just my simple understanding of it.
They are like town full of holograms of buildings in other towns.
Towns and communities is a really good analogy.
Honestly, a simple little language change like that, if adopted by the developers, might simplify onboarding a for people.
When you introduce new tech, the best way to onboard folks is to use metaphor and to reference patterns they’re already familiar with.
This explanation helped, thanks!
I think the communities within communities (multiple servers with their own communities each) issue can be abstracted away by a good app, the experience could look roughly the same as regular Reddit.
The fact that accounts are separated and individual to each server, in a way that you can't login with your current account into a different one and someone could poach your username, is what I see as a much bigger issue for casual users in the future.
Hmm. Third party apps, you say? What an intriguing concept.
Too soon, dude. I’m still traumatised.
The confusion is the signup process and front page
If when you joined instead of picking a user name it was username @lemmy.world or @beehaw.org then people would see it more like an email address.
Then when you reach the front page instead of showing server admin picks, it should show a list of popular communities across servers and then the alternative local version with some text at the top explaining multiple versions of some communities exist and you can subscribe to both.
Oh boy, I'm more confused now!
So there are global and local communities?
well for example there is [email protected] and [email protected]
Oh, no, that's confusing...
Fight to the death between forums I guess
Well you can subscribe to more than one, and it might be that some communities have different rules to others, for example one might be focused on news while another might allow self promotion or technical questions.
Putting it in terms of email is the simplest to me. And it works because email itself is federated.
You join a server (gmail, aol, yahoo, proton mail, whatever provider you choose), and from there you can communicate with any other email provider. You aren’t locked into only talking to gmail users.
It does make discovering new communities a little more difficult because they won’t show up for your local feed by default, but that can be handled down the road a little ways to put that all in the background and link all the servers so that the experience for the user is similar to how Reddit used to be.
Its not like email because when you open your email you dont accidentally wander into another email server where the only way to reply is by copy and pasting a nonobvious code and searching through an interface that isnt identified and doesnt work.
Email server were totally invisible to users and i wish everyone would stop bsing to the contrary. It is a backend conparison not of utility to end users.
Once subscribed to a community replies seem pretty seamless
At the moment an issue I have is links in the jerboa app don't open the community but instead open a web link to that instance which then causes problems with replying similar to what you described
I, for one, welcome our new federated overlords
Weeeeeeellllllll, there are a lot of former Reddit users here so you won't miss too much, I think!
Reddit's not what it once was, and won't be ever again if they continue towards IPO even if they walk back some or all of the proposed changes. I might visit occasionally to check up on things, but by-and-large I'm done with it.
I will be shorting the hell out of any IPO, assuming one even happens at this point.
If reddit does IPO I 100% for sure am buying puts. Only enough to the point if I lose the money it wont hurt me but enough money that if reddit tanks I can make a decent chunk if change.
I think it'll go up at first because they'll convince people all the whiners are 'just' superusers that make up 2% of the site, then tank when they realize that 2% is 50% of content and moderation.
What's the correlation with the IPO? Are they somehow pressurized so that IPO entry means they must get rid of third party integration and similar other feature changes?
It means their changes will be motivated to "cut waste" and squeeze every penny out of the goodwill of it's users, in order to appear profitable (despite Steve Huffman describing Reddit to the contrary).
It means that they’re doing everything they can to be profitable
I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.
Well, we are on the ground floor here. Let's find something that keeps the lights on and gives everyone the incentives they need to make a great community!
Perhaps a good start would be a page that gives statistics about the time and money required to run an instance. I really appreciate those who have dedicated their time money and reputation to start things up. Lets find a way to build a better social media experience together.
I think many of us would be OK with a number of different models, donations, non-intrusive ads, reasonable subscription fees, etc. Perhaps there could even be incentives for people who put time into building communities by moderating or other tasks. The important thing in my opinion is that everyone feels they contributed to the structure in a way that they want to keep participating.
Edit: I found a budget page from the donation link on the side bar of the main page of lemmy.world.
Yeah, that's not not a bad idea.
I'm ok with some non-intrusive ads, also. I'd also be ok with chipping in $5 a month, or so, if it's something I end up using a lot.
From a personal perspective, I would like to see a model where basic access is free. A 5$ a month fee is fine for you and me, but I think there are a lot of people who may not have that in their budget or who don't want the paper trail of payments (e.g. if they live in a country that is restrictive of free speech). I am really hoping that voluntary donations are sufficient, but I guess we will see.
I hope so too.
I really love that idea.
Regarding ads, I almost always turn on an ad blocker because the ads I see are over the top and either obstructive or somehow offensive, so figuring out a way to monetize that isn't also horrible is kind of a delicate balance. Like, no autoplaying video/audio, for one.
Tip jars, things like possible user customizations allowable for those that donate above a certain threshold (so like, specific color callouts for donators of $x in the last month, or the ability to add highlights inline in comments, or something) and other incentives other than, y'know, getting your average user to understand that servers and time are things that need money to keep going. That said, that stat page would be super helpful on the main instance page, like maybe over on the side.
Yeah, reasonable ads are key. Moving/flashing things are a show stopper for me. Also, ads shouldn't track private information, I think its fine to base them on the contents of the current public info on a page, but tracking data across sites gets creepy. I don't like using ad blockers if I can avoid it, but many websites are completely unusable without it.
Honestly I’m fine with some amount of ads as long as they are unobtrusive and inoffensive. Either that or there’s a free tier with some minimal ads and a paid tier with no ads. Nothing outlandish though.
No instance admin should have to bear the cost.
Unfortunately with the current structure of things, that's probably what will have to happen for a bit.
Lemmy is decentralized and federated and there are pros and cons to that system. One of those is that users expect a completely free experience. However, I have a server at home, but I have no way of scaling it. So despite there being a community I'd love to spin up, I can't because I have no way of scaling it.
Most people are going to have to go through Cloud providers for that, which can get pricey.
Just like people share the cost for a Netflix account they could probably share the cost of their fediverse access. IF people really wanted that is.
At least with Lemmy there's lots of different servers, each with their own running costs.
Each could try a different way of keeping the lights on. Some could run on donations only, some could use small unobtrusive ads on the side, some could do lots of ads. If any server does too little they'll go down due to lack of funding, if any server does too much the users will migrate elsewhere, as it's quite easy to make a new account on another instance and keep following the same communities.
Even if we end up with some large-scale instances with big servers, millions of users and serious money involved, they won't have a monopoly on all the content like with reddit, so the competition should keep them from doing anything stupid.
That's true. That's definitely why I prefer open source and federated models. No one can have a monopoly.
Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.
Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).
Your first sentence was actual poetry.
Their username checks out.
You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.
I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.
I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.
What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.
I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.
The Narwahl Bacons at Midnight
Blimey I've not heard that phrase in a long time. Welcome fellow refugee!
Thank you very much for this meme. Gonna try and bury that one deep into my memory so I never forget :D
Orangered
I've been active on reddit for 8 years and I have no idea what those in-jokes are. Care to fill me in?
Oh man, idk about the broken arms one but the coconut one is LEGENDARY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OOCMsNMhYA
Broken arms is legendary as well, tbf
What's the broken arms about? I would just look it up but it would benefit the site to share it here!
Good god, I suppose you're right. Basically some dude posted an AMA about how he broke both of his arms when he was 14 and his mom would help get him off.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reddit-broken-arms-story
How does that video only have 15 likes?
Because up until now everyone would just link to the actual post but now it's down so I'm glad these youtube videos are still around now for sure! Also I am sad to see Reddit go BUT I like the idea of Federation much better so, all for the best!
Jesus fucking Christ, what is wrong with people. That was definitely an... Interesting watch.
Sure. :)
Here's a link to some info about the broken arms story: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reddit-broken-arms-story
Going forward any posts which vaguely related to incest or broken arms would invariably have comments referring to the original story.
As for the coconuts, there was a TIFU post about a guy who made a hole in a coconut and used ti to pleasure himself repeatedly. iirc he'd use it and then store it in his bedroom and one day he put his dick in it and it came out covered in maggots.
This link is dark but in case it comes back up: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/6rr6ay/tifu_by_cumming_into_a_coconut/?st=JL9NG1AP&sh=cfe1e15a
There was then just a long running joke when people mentioned coconuts....
Thank you! With context I actually do recall the broken arms one. The coconuts was new to me though
Broken arms was something about a teenager who had broken both his arms. I forget the exact way the conversation arrived at this but the joke is that his mom would help him jack off since he couldn’t anymore.
I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.
I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform
At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.
Even if they reneged on everything, I still wouldn't go back. The problem with Reddit at this point is the quality of its users. It's next to impossible to find any kind of legitimate discussion because everything is buried under reddit-comedy and virtue signaling. Most of the major subreddits have just become political tools for their mods. It scares me thinking how curated the posts are there.
That is also a criticism of Lemmy already
I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.
I want the more the merrier as long as we can moderate the more toxic tendencies, but at this moment I'm also pleased that much of the folks and vibes are much like reddit when i first joined
I'm definitely in the right age bracket... Let's see how this goes. The good thing is that quite a few moderators are on board, so if we shut the large communities down long enough, that might flip a bunch of people over.
Not sure about that. If content and infrastructure (aka mods) leave, there is enough incentive to move away if you are a lurker.
I'd love more time to ease into the transition and let Lemmy grow more naturally. So if they did that 180 I'd probably still visit Lemmy first each day, then switch to Reddit once I ran out of new posts.
Hopefully after a few months all my favorite things from reddit would get ported over
It's an interesting thought experiment, I even wonder that about myself. I started using reddit in 2007 and I don't like how attached to it I am, but I also can't deny it.
I don't think they'll 180 in any event unless there's a full management change (which has still failed in the past). Their hands are being forced by angry investor money, one of the most powerful forces in the universe, and they obviously have no clue what they're doing or how to respond... what competent business would pour gasoline on a roaring PR fire by repeatedly shoveling dishonesty and disrespect in everyone's faces?
There's an old saying, "don't shit where you eat".
Really hope people leave it to a great extent. Reddit doesn’t deserve the users if they lie like they do, and while reddit was easy and fun, a federated way of communicating seems more robust
Yep, agree. Hope the shutdown will send quite a free over...
Honestly better this way, the fediverse is much more resilient and future-proof than a site maintained by a group of people with the aim of making money and deciding the fate of their service, and I doubt that reddit becomes opensource and implements activityPub soon.
You're using it.
Fuck u/spez
I'm glad to see genuine and honest posts. Seems to be a lack of robots (for the time being).
Beep. Boop. Reddit is great!
Kidding, Lemmy has been pretty awesome and I haven't even felt the need to look back.
I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.
Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.
I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.
The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.
But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.
This is how I feel! Very few people I know IRL spend time on Reddit, and it was always fun for me to bring up something I found there. Lately, I have a couple of friends who do read our local subreddit and I enjoy discussing what we’ve read there.
I feel that whether or not I choose to go back, all the reasons I still went will be degraded after recent events. And frankly, that sucks.
Thanks for saying what I didn’t realize I was feeling!
I'm glad to be a part of something new. Still confused a little bit that's part of the excitement lol
Im just a few minutes in but I really like the layout in the comments that let's you see which comment someone replied to on the mobile app Jerboa.
I'm using Jerboa, too! It's quite nice and I look forward to seeing future developments
Oh, I see. It is the same as the browser version.
Me too!
I felt kind of bad last night knowing I might not ever be able to see my favourite subreddits again but honestly, I just moved to Lemmy and so far the community seems super nice and it's nice to be a part of something new and refreshing.
People actually feel like people here, not some randoms, if you know what I mean. Reminds me of the good old days where I had a bunch of forums I frequented instead of just Reddit. I like it!
Honestly it feels good to be a part of something new. I'm only 20 y old, but seeing this forum style new thing pop-up with the internet and experiencing it in all its glory is actually really nice!
I for one am glad to be here to make something new. Enjoy the ride!
Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.
I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.
Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.
Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.
I feel the same way. I love how reddit had very active communities for pretty much all my interests. Lemmy is not bad but you have to make it happen and who knows if it will happen..
I feel Reddit was falling anyway. It felt like it was just more and more reposts in most subreddits to me.
The karma-farming bot reposts have been getting particularly out of hand over there for a long while.
I'd go on a cull of subredits that ended out to be too memy / circlejerk monthly. Really there were some subs that I had a major interest in that had no meme rules everything else was some shitty out the gate default or something I thought was funny once upon a time.
For the most part lots of subs are fluffy fillers, designed to keep people scrolling and up engaged adding more of the same.
I'd be keen to see some lems cropping up around the place with a similar mindset, for now Reddit remains uninstalled.
The more you post and comment, the quicker it will happen. Don't hold yourself!
I'm sad to see what's happening to reddit but excited about Lemmy
It IS exciting. I really like what I see so far on Lemmy. There aren't 10,000 comments on every thread. I think it will be easier to gave real engagement with people.
and there is no karma. which means there will be no karma farming
It will be exciting to see new communities popping up
Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Reddit's demise.
It is kind of exciting to be involved in something like what must have happened when digg died and reddit started up. Are we going to get cake days here?
I was part of the voat migration... It was fun for about a month.
Instead, we'll have Pie Days....
...except they'll all be on the same day.
Lemmon Pies?
I want Natto Days and Sürstromming Days and Haggis Days
so were a lot of the digg-exodus redditors though. the only difference is there’s been a decade of other new users since
Not sure if we get a badge when the day comes, but you can click on someone's profile and see their cake day
I'm more interested in sushi and pizza days. I'm hoping people will post their food because I can't eat most of it so I like to at least watch.
Let me live vicariously through you. I promise I won't judge.
Maybe? If I look at my profile page there's my cake day, tho I have no idea if/how they display it while posting.
OP didn't realized he was using an alternative. Bye Reddit
Let’s just hope the blackout works, spez sucks
Blackout needs to be longer than 1-2 days to really be effective. Fuck /u/spez.
The Reddit owners seem committed to their course, so I don't think it matters how long the blackout is on that front, but a 1-2 day blackout will bring the issue to the attention to more users, prompting more of them to move to other communities and giving those communities enough traffic to be active.
Reddit is doomed. Nothing will change that at this point. The focus needs to be on building the communities that will replace it.
Most of the subs I know of that are going dark are doing a week.
I've seen several going indefinite, a few going a week or so, and the vast majority only committing to 48 hours. Even then, though, many of those are open to extending it.
I suppose we shall see.
The problem will be that, at least for the major subs, Reddit may just kick the current mods off and install others who will not continue the protest. It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.
If the blackout works, Lemmy is fucked 😂.
Well, maybe. Maybe fucked for the time being. But part of me thinks the cat is now out of the bag. If Reddit doesn’t end up shitting on everyone now, surely they will at some point later down the line.
Exactly, this may not work. If it doesn’t, they’re gonna do something else that’s gonna ruin them for good.
I don't think that will happen. Eventually, it will trun more into a microblogging platform, like FB or Twitter and this wil cater to the needs of your average Joe. It will lose some of it's userbase, but most communities will stay on it.
This is just the evolution of forums, ngl. We've moved from dislocated hobby groups to a consolidated place where anyone can find the forum they need, to realising the problem with pure consolidation.
my life would be substantially better if i never joined reddit in the first place
Without reddit, I certainly would've been more ignorant yet less worried about my prospects in my country's job market when I haven't even started college yet.
Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.
I never got into Twitter and was freaked out by the content on Mastodon. I just want a nice chill community that shares interesting information/news/facts/pics.
Freaked out by the content? What was there?
They might have been on an instance that federate with things like poast and noagendasocial
not heard of those but I'm guessing they're 'free speech' servers for 'honest everyday people'
Basically yeah, "free speech" and shitposting, basically right wing bigots doing bigot things.
Pretty much and felt like I was being put on an FBI list for just having visited the place lol...
well, for me at least, Mastodon IS an alternative to twitter, though it may change since it is federated (?) with lemmy? And yeah, my mastodon account is just collecting virtual dust there lmao
Yeah it's sad to see how reddit has fallen, but oh well. You either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the villain.
Reddit turned into a villain a long long time ago. I just haven't been able to shake it off.
Yeah but with old.reddit, third-party apps and well-curated subscriptions you could mostly ignore the bullshit new "features". Now they're trying to force-feed them to us.
This will be for the best propably. Now that reddit might finally collapse from their idiocy many people will move to here, which improves lemmy. Only regrettable thing about it is loss of information as either users will delete their posts or reddit will fuck everything up even worse some how.
Ive been on reddit since the beginning. Watched it grow and change. These things are always bittersweet but honestly I never thought it would last this long.
My internet history is litered with relics. All the way back to the phpbb web forums, irc servers, aim/aol chatrooms, and the BBSs before them.
I've been trying to encourage people and the communities I care about on Reddit to bridge to another social network for a decade. I am so, so happy it is finally happening.
I’m sure it’s a pipe dream atm, but I’m just hoping fediverse will have a unified method to look up archived posts across all platforms. Unfortunately, it’s probably very difficult to set up because indexing would take forever given the exponentially increasing amount of content. I used to use Reddit to look up a lot of video game info/memes. Reddit’s search engine was garbage, but at least I could find info from older game guides from 10+ years ago. My main concern is that a lot of indie game devs are directing people to talk about their games on Discord, which is terrible for archiving information.
With Google getting increasingly worse, reddit is usually where I find what I'm looking for in a sea of blog spam. And while I personally think Discord is absolutely great as a chat plaform it is nowhere near close as being a reddit replacement. Everything posted in there is silo'd and not searchable from outside.
I think Google would still mostly prefer to provide the most relevant results. (When they aren’t trying to scrape data and keep you from ever actually visiting those sites). But SEO is always an arms race.
I’m hopeful that search engines will be able to leverage some AI soon to start surfacing higher quality results.
I started using AI chats to find info these days because of how bad google is at googling
I never have nor will I ever use discord like that. I use it to voice chat for gaming and that's all. I don't understand people using it as some kind of forum, it seems too intrusive to me. I had to leave every community I joined that weren't my own private servers because I couldn't deal with all the notifications and private messages.
Damn, where the hell should we go?
You've already made the journey. You are here!
Be the change you want to see. Start a community, advertise it, start bring the reddit folks over here.
Eh, I've left other sites. Reddit has been going downhill for years.
Same. I've been wandering around since AOL lured me away from mIRC. This is really no different.
I think I'll go see what is shakin in mIRC land now that I mentioned it.
It seems to be working for me. Fediverse apps don't need to nessesarily be popular with the general public in order to be useful to us in nichie communities.
We need to make fetch happen!
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
Agreed! If ever there were a time for fetch to happen, it feels like now would be a good choice!
If former redditors join here, it's not like actually leaving.
Just push it somewhere else.
The all-purpose contingency plan?
Same, I've been there since 2012. It's my go-to site for mostly everything and it's difficult to not click on that Reddit bookmark in my browser. This place is a bit empty right now but I'm hoping the blackout and people leaving Reddit will increase the traffic. I also joined Mastodon when Musk bought Twitter, so I'm all aboard the Federated train!
At least this place is easy to use if you are already familiar with Reddit, just have to adjust to using different servers instead of having everything in one central place.
I'm sad too. What's with these tech companies making the shittiest changes lately? I thought I'd be fine deactivating my Discord after their horrendous username change since I'd still have Reddit but now Reddit is going to become lower quality. I'll be active on here and Twitter since its fandoms are similarly, like Reddit, seperated by subtwitters (communities)
I just renamed myself as same as i was before: [mynickname][myoldnumber] (i wanted to add # too but damned thing didnt let me)
Well, what else to expect from these companies? Pretty sure the big companies that listen to their users can be counted on the fingers of your hand
What was so bad about the Discord username change? I literally just dropped the number they had forced on me.
This won't work for a lot of people though.
I'm aware. Doesn't answer the question.
The bad thing is that people are forced to give up their username to make it a unique token with people they will never meet and care about.
Question for most people is: Why? Where is the good reason to force this upon everyone?
And even as a techy guy I have no clue to be honest.
Seems a bit dramatic to completely abandon the platform over a username change though, especially since you can still use whatever nickname you want on the servers.
I've been on Reddit for almost 15 years and it's just gotten too big and too moderated for me.
agree with all the sentiments here.
but imho think we'd have to agree that the dangers of one corp entity controlling a whole social media platfor (with twitter first and now reddit) are pretty clear.
our communities will coalesce again somewhere but until then we should adopt the spirit of curiosity and just enjoy these new experiences ❤️
I just logged out of my account and uninstalled the app (Sync) for the protest, only to realize that I needed an ELI5 30 minutes later... Hopefully my favorite/most useful subreddits manage to join Lemmy as well!
ChatGPT has replaced most eli5
Tried asking chatgpt some r/eli5 and the answers are often comparable to the top comments
What do you need explaining? I am curious.
I need an ELI5 of how the fediverse and federated networks work. I'm trying to make some kind of guide/explanation (a "dumbed down" version so other people that are highly confused (like at was at the beginning) can understand, but I realized that I don't really understand it fully yet, so I needed some help from ELI.
But I'm in complete refusal and denial to enter Reddit at least until a week goes by.
The ELI5 is actually pretty easy: e-mail.
You know how you can have an account @gmail.com and I can have an account @hotmail.com and we can still send each other emails? That’s because gmail and hotmail (and every other email server) talk to each other when you send an email between them.
The fediverse is just applying the same model to other services. Lemmy is this for a Reddit-like forum. Mastadon is this for a twitter-like feed. And so on.
This makes it nearly impossible for one company to “ruin” any federated service, the way twitter has gone under Musk and the way Reddit seems to be heading in advance of its IPO. Google might ruin gmail someday, but all you have to do is sign up for another email address somewhere else.
i wonder if the corporations will try to push to change laws in such a way it would cripple or outright prevent fediverse from functioning. That seems to be general way of things on how they handle competition they can't directly attack
It’s hard for me to imagine any legislation that could affect fediverse that doesn’t affect email (unless email is explicitly excluded from the legislation I guess), which is good because email is one of the few parts of the internet that even old farts understand. No chance they vote in a bill that kills e-mail.
I can help you out here! It's not easy to wrap your head around at first because of how accustomed we are to the centralised internet by now, but it's actually fairly simple. Let's take Lemmy for example, anybody can create their own Lemmy instance (e.x. Beehaw.org, lemmy.world, lemmy.ml) and basically have their own functioning Reddit clone website. The fediverse/federated network only comes into play when a bunch of these instances connect to one another. You can totally just have a Lemmy instance and not federate with any other instances, but if you do, they share content with each other. This content is copied over between the two, and regularly synced (there's some more complicated wiring happening in the bg to make this more real-time, but what happens is essentially a sync between the content of the instances). In the case of Lemmy, that means the directory of subreddits on one instance is exposed to the other instance. This extends to the posts and comments as well. When you see a post from another server in your instance, it means that the instance you signed up on is "aware" of the other instance and shared content with it, and when you comment on that post, your comment is created in your instance and then later on shared with the other instance (which is why you can comment on a post in another instance and see it in that other instance).
That's how Lemmy takes advantage of the "fediverse" but it's not the only one. You've probably heard of Mastodon, which does the same except with tweets. There are also efforts to replicate other social media, such as YouTube (see: PeerTube), Facebook (see Friendica, GNU Social, and Misskey), Instagram (see PixelFed), and I'm sure others as well.
Tl;dr the fediverse is just a bunch of independently-run websites that share content with each other.
It's how the old saying goes: out with the old in with the new!
But what is the new saying?
Glad to see it go. It was not as useful as it once was and the community had grown very angry and bitter.
I remember Digg before Reddit.
I remember Slashdot.
I remember BBS.
Freshmeat anyone?
Reddit hasn't been the same in years. I've been thinking about leaving for a long time now. Ever since subs started banning people for participating in the "wrong" subreddits, things have really gone downhill. People shouldn't be expected to do a background check on every post they want to comment on.
The things I could say but won’t. I’ll just leave it as, yes. I hate it!!!! I’ve been banned for the dumbest things from 2 subs, ran by the same girl. Once for promoting my sub, which ok, maybe I shouldn’t have done, and second because oh no!!!! I used a Reddit bot in my Discord server and I guess the chick thought I was copying her. The thing that sucks is that now my sub is suffering and I’m weary od creating a BDSM subreddit because this doesn’t seem the place for that.
I was drawn to reddit in the early days for the uncensored and open pics, gifs of the arab spring horrors. I stayed with the promise of free speech, though I did welcome the clamping down on hate, anti lgbt+, and similar.
The thing is free speech should apply to all opinions, not just those you don't like. There are hate speech laws on the books but the bar is set high and it's done for good reasons. If someone incites violence or makes threats then they should be prosecuted. But being offensive does not meet the bar of hate speech.
I'm going to miss Reddit
Really? I'm excited. Its a wish come true.
Yeah. I used Reddit due to lack of choice. I never liked the way the Internet has become dominated by monolithic social media sites over the last few years, but you've got to go to where the people are if you want to participate in discussions. With Reddit self-destructing, enough people are moving to the Fediverse that it'll be able to build the kinds of communities that Reddit had and I'll be able to tick one more monolith off my list (the only ones I have remaining are YouTube and Twitch.)
I’m a late adopter of Reddit but it has been the only form of social anything on the web for me, so I will miss it. But I’m also really excited for the stuff here and being apart of something small. I was a longtime lurker on Reddit just because it was so intimidating, felt like it was easy to get put on blast if you accidentally did something wrong.
That's something I noticed a lot, too. I've used Reddit since maybe 2014 or so, I forgot when I made my first account, but even back then the hostility was so much lower. There are so many subs full of hate and I'm not sure where it comes from.
Already left Twitter for Mastodon when Elon Musk purchased it. I don't feel bad for leaving Reddit behind, nor do I feel sad. Spez has shown how incompetent he is both as a CEO and a person. I feel bad for the app devs, though.
I’m the same but still occasionally check Twitter because most of the people I follow are not on mastodon. There’s just not enough for me to engage there.
And Reddit was my main source of news so it’s difficult to leave behind. I’ve spent the past couple days browsing here to find similar things but again, not nearly enough engagement for me to fully drop Reddit. It will be a slow transition and I just need to remind myself that I was a Reddit user for 12 years and it was a similarly slow transition back then too
It was their crappy mobile UI and app that drove me to Relay for Reddit. Now that they're getting pushed out I'm done, it's going to hurt a bit but it's the right thing to do.
Man, Reddit and Tumblr were my favourite social medias, what a shame
Some people I know from my fandom days are going back to tumblr. I cracked open my tumblr for the first time in 6 years the other day. There's a lot more ads now. :/
I joined in 2013, left in 2019. I remember watching what was foreign and corporate manipulation of threads via sockpuppet accounts increase over time. After that, every thread posted by an admin whose name was popping up as admin for several subreddits started eating at my impression that this was an "organic" community.
Signed off after killing my account in 2019. I lurked on and off without an account via 3rd party apps and the desire to rejoin the fray never returned.
I've happily been a part of the fediverse since on Mastodon and Pixelfed.
It is tragic. But on the plus side I think this transition will be a lot smoother than trying to leave twitter since here you don't have to individually find everyone you want to follow, just show up at the proper forums.
idk, i'm having kind of a hard time. i have a lot of niche subs on reddit that don't seem to be on lemmy. i feel like i did when i first started reddit and just saw all the default pics/music/gaming subs
Well it can't solve that stuff just not existing, but I think it's easier to find your preferred subs once they exist than all your old twitter contacts on a new site
You can still use Reddit, just now many users have a motivation to diversify their information platforms. Fediverse does that, and only ask that your new content, discussions, and questions be added in the fediverse instead. To help growth here.
For example, I curious about SFF PC building and, yup, Reddit already had a sub for that. If I have future questions I'll just post them on /m/technology instead.
I agree with this. As part of the Fediverse while it's still small, it's our job to build it up by creating content here.
I dunno... I'm excited to be here instead of there. It's something fresh and new.
The content will follow. And frankly, I'd rather talk with a handful of people than a hive mind.
I remember what Reddit was like a decade ago. I'm excited to try something that -- at least in some small way -- feels like that did.
Agree with the hive mind thing. Im hoping this would be like smaller communities where you get to communicate with actual people and have moderate opinions rather than only extremes one way or the other upvoted to the top
i miss the memes, the rest of it is toxic
Yeah, to be honest, I used the reddit mobile app and I loved reddit and I'm also sad to see it go. However, nothing lasts forever.
It sucks for sure. My Reddit account just became old enough to get a learner’s permit, but it’s the users that make the platform.
I have deleted all my reddit bookmarks :(
All of the subreddits I frequent all stated they're closing the subreddits down and deleting their accounts so there's no reason for me to be on Reddit anymore and I can't justify staying on the platform when Reddit is acting the way it is.
It's sad still, but now I'm trying to learn about fediverse and try new things.
Same for me. If they follow through shutting down, I'll have one whole sub left out of dozens I've found over the years. And while it's nice, it's nothing I won't be able to find here. Feels super weird to have no reason to use Reddit anymore, but the end of an era always feels weird.
Worst part is all the subs I really liked but didn't participate in myself, so I'm stuck waiting for someone else to start them up because I have no content of my own.
I am too. I really hope they at least make a compromise to allow third-party apps to function. I have spent years on Reddit, and I find it enjoyable for the most part. The amount of information on that site is incredible too. If it continues down the Twitter road it will be sorely missed.
How would people feel about posting their most upvoted OC from Reddit onto kbin/lemmy? It could be a good way to promote engagement for the first little while. We could have a tag for it or something?
I'm working on archiving and then removing my data from Reddit. I then plan to post that content in relevant... I want to say subs but that makes no sense anymore. I guess relevant magazines?
Same here. I don't want my time and energy to contribute to the value of a corporate and greedy entity like reddit
All great things must come to an end, and reddit is no exception
Autism doesn't make someone an asshole.