Decades of FUD against Linux. I still hear from gamers that Linux is fine if you don't value your time. I spent more time configuring my keybinds to ESDF then I do tech support for any Proton or Heroic Launcher game.
Now it's at the point where if you treat Linux desktop as something other than a game console or a development platform you're in for a world of pain. Have fun filtering and grouping documents with Dolphin.
And on Linux you need higher tech knowledge and more time compared to other platforms due to almost everything being less polished. None of the Linux file managers have views, filtering and grouping features as polished as Explorer for example, so users will spend more time on miscellaneous tasks like managing files and they'll add up.
You vastly over estimate how the average windows user uses their computer. I can't even get them to tell me where they downloaded a particular, let alone caring about filtering, grouping or view counts.
I've pretty much stopped using windows 20 years ago - besides needing to boot it up to have some weird configuration program (looking at you Datalogic!)
I'm still "the computer guy" in my family and everyone comes to me with their Windows boxes or iOS phones/tablets, but I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing there...
I'm always astonished how much more shit Windows got in those years.
Even assigning a drive letter (which is already a stupid way to extend storage, compared with just mount points) isn't that easily set anymore.
At least it took me 20-30mins to find the option.
Changing IP addresses also seems to be highly technical and must be hidden.
Don't know what they are going for.
You can make stuff easily useable, but still give options to change the defaults.
A historical mix of conflicting paradigms all bundled in one huge software?
Slightly panicky catching up with competitors of a market they are slowly losing, thus making the above even worse?
I don't know either.
It all gets worse with a certain type of stack used in corporate environments, consisting of Google accounts, MS accounts, some sort of invisible 2FA (the 2nd factor is tied to a device)...
That type of shit is exactly why my only interactions with Windows now is via work. A place I am pushing for more Linux in and have made some solid headway on. Just things like basic file operations are faster. A benefit I would have never known about had it not been for the constant, abusive nagging Windows does.
I had just assumed things like emptying your recycle bin of 50,000 log files is slow...no, only on Windows.
I switched to Fedora KDE. Literally looks better than windows and doesn't have all the BS. Lightweight and it honestly works well. Aint ever going back.
Well its KDE, that is why it looks good. Gnome in comparison is better than windows ui but KDE is one of the better Desktop managers. DMs are usually separate than the OS but do come preinstalled in a lot of distro flavors
I liked Gnome2, but never got the feeling for the current generation
Especially on a laptop I love tiling window managers, like i3
Not needing the mouse for basic things is really nice
Recently started using a Win11 machine at my new job. Fuck me is file explorer a pile of shit. Remove gallery and onedrive links... wtf do you mean I need to use the registry editor to remove/hide some things on the side bar of file explorer?
Honestly for work having that one drive turned on means that when people inevitably break the laptop, we can recover the files. Otherwise we have to explain that if they don't save stuff to a shared location it's not important enough for us to backup.
This is funny, after X years of working professionally as an IT guy in a Microsoft 365 environment, I have started to rely heavily on OneDrive and I feel worried if I save work stuff outside of it.
At home I don't use it, but I am working on building a NAS to have better storage.
Microsoft: There's no such thing
Microsoft: that's where you're wrong kiddo
It's now "this computer"
I think you mean our computer comrade
I cannot. for the life of me, fathom, how regluar people, actually tolerate Windows anymore.
Decades of FUD against Linux. I still hear from gamers that Linux is fine if you don't value your time. I spent more time configuring my keybinds to ESDF then I do tech support for any Proton or Heroic Launcher game.
Now it's at the point where if you treat Linux desktop as something other than a game console or a development platform you're in for a world of pain. Have fun filtering and grouping documents with Dolphin.
You mean web browsing or office document work?
Anything more technical then gaming requires higher tech knowledge regardless of platform.
And on Linux you need higher tech knowledge and more time compared to other platforms due to almost everything being less polished. None of the Linux file managers have views, filtering and grouping features as polished as Explorer for example, so users will spend more time on miscellaneous tasks like managing files and they'll add up.
You vastly over estimate how the average windows user uses their computer. I can't even get them to tell me where they downloaded a particular, let alone caring about filtering, grouping or view counts.
Every time I touch a Windows computer, after 5 minutes, me hacking on the keyboard: "Why 🔨 Can't 🔨 I 🔨 Just 🔨 Do 🔨 This 🔨!!!"
Then I have to explain to my coworkers (where else would I touch a Windows computer) that I'm actually a very leet hacker, just on a different OS 😳
I've pretty much stopped using windows 20 years ago - besides needing to boot it up to have some weird configuration program (looking at you Datalogic!)
I'm still "the computer guy" in my family and everyone comes to me with their Windows boxes or iOS phones/tablets, but I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing there...
I'm always astonished how much more shit Windows got in those years.
Even assigning a drive letter (which is already a stupid way to extend storage, compared with just mount points) isn't that easily set anymore.
At least it took me 20-30mins to find the option.
Changing IP addresses also seems to be highly technical and must be hidden.
Don't know what they are going for. You can make stuff easily useable, but still give options to change the defaults.
A historical mix of conflicting paradigms all bundled in one huge software?
Slightly panicky catching up with competitors of a market they are slowly losing, thus making the above even worse?
I don't know either.
It all gets worse with a certain type of stack used in corporate environments, consisting of Google accounts, MS accounts, some sort of invisible 2FA (the 2nd factor is tied to a device)...
This isn't consent, it's pestering and in a relationship would be abusive
That type of shit is exactly why my only interactions with Windows now is via work. A place I am pushing for more Linux in and have made some solid headway on. Just things like basic file operations are faster. A benefit I would have never known about had it not been for the constant, abusive nagging Windows does.
I had just assumed things like emptying your recycle bin of 50,000 log files is slow...no, only on Windows.
I am having this fight as we speak...
I switched to Fedora KDE. Literally looks better than windows and doesn't have all the BS. Lightweight and it honestly works well. Aint ever going back.
Well its KDE, that is why it looks good. Gnome in comparison is better than windows ui but KDE is one of the better Desktop managers. DMs are usually separate than the OS but do come preinstalled in a lot of distro flavors
I haven't tried 11, but IDK, for me Gnome feels like it's trying to be futuristic while being a deranged cross between an Ipad and a fisher price toy.
But then again, macos or whatever the fuck they are calling it looks like that, but less futuristic
Gnome is just a Mac lookalike for those switching to linux from that walled garden.
I liked Gnome2, but never got the feeling for the current generation
Especially on a laptop I love tiling window managers, like i3
Not needing the mouse for basic things is really nice
This is interesting info I wish I had known about while using Gnome for like 10 years... (Did not migrate from a MacOS environment, so that's on me)
That's exactly what I use on my own computer. But work owns the other computer and gets to dictate the OS and ll that...
"Do I look like I know what a one drive is? I just want my pictures on my god dang hard drive!"
Edit: For anyone who might not be familiar with the scene in question.
Edit2: Or the meme version.
I just want a picture of a got-dang hotdog.
Sif not 10 hour hotdog
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
Technically you could just netboot a kernel and initrd, then mount a root filesystem via the network
So you don't even need a drive in your computer
Not sure why you'd do this outside of very specific appliances but it's an option
You mean "This Computer" they renamed it.
"this PC"
You're right.
Recently started using a Win11 machine at my new job. Fuck me is file explorer a pile of shit. Remove gallery and onedrive links... wtf do you mean I need to use the registry editor to remove/hide some things on the side bar of file explorer?
And why do I need two links for usb stick?
Adobe does the same exact fucking bullshit
You can hit F12 to save documents locally in Office applications, it bypasses all the Onedrive trash
"Look at what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power!"
Microsoft are now automatically syncing the documents folder to OneDrive too, that's how they get you.
It also hides local folders in explorer now if your have OneDrive (which my employer turns on).
Honestly for work having that one drive turned on means that when people inevitably break the laptop, we can recover the files. Otherwise we have to explain that if they don't save stuff to a shared location it's not important enough for us to backup.
Hiding c: is a bit excessive.
This is funny, after X years of working professionally as an IT guy in a Microsoft 365 environment, I have started to rely heavily on OneDrive and I feel worried if I save work stuff outside of it.
At home I don't use it, but I am working on building a NAS to have better storage.
Well for sharing and collaboration, yes, but for a file I alone work with, I rather have that on a zfs hosted network drive.
Also of course if I have to represent and I have a surface hub available, maybe then.
But really, I dont want onedrive to be first option. Only if I so choose.
I save everything to OneDrive, I don't even have local copies. Come at me, linux nerds
That just sounds rough.
Honestly, I'm just confused.
Do you... like it?
I save documents to my Syncthing directory. It's like Onedrive, but I own it and make the rules.
I shit myself every day. Come at me toilet nerds