Trump’s Endgame Is Surrender. He seems to hope to slip away without Americans noticing the magnitude of this defeat.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/05/trump-surrender-iran-endgame/687252/Open linkView original on sh.itjust.works497
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To be fair, betting on the apathy and cowardice of the US voter base is a pretty safe bet, and a bet that's served him well so far.
Apathy is a poor turn of phrase for a fascist takeover.
The problem in the US isn't apathy. ICE doesn't seem apathetic. The military doesn't seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn't seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn't seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.
Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.
There's apathy and complicity in the senior leadership of the opposition. But they're a fraction of a fraction of the agents involved in the conflict.
So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.
Eh, I dunno. I don't think the DNC is my "friend", but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.
I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don't want to see hurt or killed.
Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn't mean I won't try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I'm not into the accelerationist bullshit.
I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.
As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.
But just as some people will complain that I just wrote "whole ass paragraphs", nuance doesn't often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to "strong stances against!!!" whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.
Just my opinion of course.
Why do you think all these bills that would substantively improve peoples lives always fails by just 1 vote, and it's always a different person? Have you ever heard of the rotating villain method? They all figure out what to do and then make the voting look like they were trying so hard but just failed.
If I had to pick between these two dogshit parties, I would pick D every time, but the party as a whole doesn't give a shit about you, they care about power and wealth. They just happen to have a little better messaging than Republicans. By the way that's most politicians everywhere.
The Dems (neolibs) want the 1990s. They don't want an oligarchy, and they're (mostly) not complicit, with a few exceptions.
The Dems, as a whole, have never taken the kind of power that Trump has. Partly because it's damaging to the country, and partly because it's blatantly illegal.
The Dems also haven't had 8 years of cutting internal opposition in primaries. In fact, after the whole Bernie/Hillary thing the Dems went in the opposite direction of that. That's what you all wanted.
You wanted the party to have less control. The party now has less control, and you're all :shocked Pikachu: that they're not able to whip every single member in line.
(Progressives want to fix problems, not just return us to the 1990s. We can do better.)
Pure cope and denialism, through and through. You need to allow yourself to face reality. I know it's uncomfortable and scary, I know nobody wants to feel disillusioned and disenfranchised, but it beats being under the illusion that the democratic party are doing everything they can to beat the republicans and deliver a progressive policy platform.
It is overwhelmingly obvious that mainstream democrats are more focused on fighting their left flank than they are about winning. They would rather lose as centrists than win as a left-leaning party. That's why they snatched Clinton's defeat from the jaws of Bernie's victory, that's why they constantly cry about Hasan Piker, it's why they refused to primary a candidate in 2024 and it's why Kamala advocated for republican policies (harder border, pro-military/military industrial complex, and so on.
The democrats try to strike a balance between the base of the democratic party (generally progressive people) and the donors of the democratic party (corporations, billionaires, Israel, lobbyists) but when it comes down to a conflict, the party has and always will side with the money.
Yup totally the opposite direction, that's why they didn't even have a primary and forced a terrible candidate on everyone, sounds like less control right?
The leadership isn't whipping because they want this to happen. Schumer literally said his priority is Israel.
The dems are complicit, they had the Epstein files and did nothing, they watched as Trump tried to overthrow the government and they did nothing, just like they watched as wall street destroyed our economy and did nothing. If they regain power they will again do nothing about what has happened.
Honestly I think you're more complicit than the Dems are.
Ahh yes I an individual with no power is more complicit than a party that has shared the responsibilities of managing our society for centuries. I didn't choose to provide bombs for a genocide but don't worry you can continue to think whatever it is that will help you sleep at night.
Yes, those are acting... the apathetic ones are the US Voters as OP pointed out
There have been 2 large marches... on weekends. For the first one, the rapist king literally send a video shitting on the protesters, that should have made it clear a weekend protest would mean nothing.
Yes, some Minnesotans did rally harder, not on weekends, and weakened ICE stance... maybe the rest of the country should learn from them and not wait until it's literally life or death as Minnesotans did
Even if the people of the USA who claim to hate this regime bothered to do a free act en mass, like closing your Meta and Xitter accounts, it would be noticeable... alas, nothing of significance can be done and all we (the rest of the world) get from Americans is some victim complex cry
We've repeatedly hit record high turnout during Presidential cycles, even in the face of widespread disenfranchisement.
Far more than two. They're heavily underreported, but I see (and periodically participate in) marches and rallies at Houston City Hall twice a month, easy.
Slacktivism Will Save Us
Dude, please touch some grass
If you are referring to voter turn out, still the largest group belongs to those who could but did not vote
Happy to fill my brain with this good news if you can provide any source
Definitely would be more efficient than just slacking...
As soon as your rapist dictator stops killing people around the world, I will take a day off... I know this is likely not something that causes you ANY concern but in this last year, literally tens of thousands of people have been slaughtered by your country's actions with not even a flimsy justification for it
Makes a declaration with no substance, is refuted, asks for a source.
What's your .ml/hexbear account?
This isn't a Tankie. They're a TurboLib.
How can you tell?
What is that?
Buddy, you claimed, with no source, that there are protests twice a month. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt but would like some evidence of your claim
No, no — see you made the declaration that no protests are happening. Do you understand what the burden of proof means? You made the declaration, they refuted it using 0 sources because you didn't provide any sources for your claims.
Because you don't have any.
Edit: oh, I looked into the protests they mentioned — they're absolutely happening, so not only do they not need to provide sources because you are arguing in bad faith, they don't need to because what they're saying is true.
I don't think it is, fascism always rears its ugly head when the general public becomes apathetic about their government's leadership. It's dependent on people being fed up over political stagnation, offering people easy and decisive solutions for complicated problems.
Ice is filled with losers who are apathetic about not being handed some fantasy version of a trad life they think they deserve for simply existing.
The military is honestly probably more apathetic about their current situation in Iran and current leadership than they've been prob since Vietnam.
Really the only people who aren't apathetic are the billionaires, who will prob become a little apathetic once their AI bubble burst.
Like what, less than one percent of the country? When people are speaking of the mood of the country, they typically aren't specifying the outliers. Most Americans are just upset with trump about gas prices.
Historically, it's reared it's head when people were the most energized
It depends on what part of the timeline you are evaluating. Apathy is the environment that allows fascism to take root, and fascist promising to dispel apathy is how they secure their power base.
Hitler's rise in power happened after years of apathy following the German defeat in WW1. Yes, there were socialist and fascist outliers fighting in the streets of Berlin. However the vast majority of the population were center right and apathetic about the bureaucratic nature of the Reichstag.
That's simply not true. Liberalism thrives under apathy. But when locals become active and begin to resist liberal rules, the fascists operate as a political counter to popular leftism.
Whether it's Franco's Spain or Pinochet's Chile or Park's Korea, fascism is a social tool to mobilize a population against itself at the height of unrest.
Hitler came to power amidst decades of riots, strikes, and mass migrations.
Nothing about Germany in the 1920s was apathetic except the failing Hindenburg government. The people were in the streets - for good or ill - nearly constantly.
I would say liberalism creates the apathy that leads to populism on both the left and the right.
I think that's a bit of a reductive way to view how fascism develops. Calling it a social tool implies that there is some kind of puppet master wielding it. In reality most of the time fascism is just aided by liberals who think they can control or ally with them because they often share cultural similarities. However there are also examples of liberals, and leftist of all types creating popular fronts against aspiring fascist regimes.
Again, you are referencing a tiny portion of the population. You are also misconstruing the time in which these events occured. The origins of the Nazi party developed from the DAP, which was started in 1919 as an ultra nationalist, antisemitism, and anti communist party. In 1928 they only had less than 3 percent of the vote. It wasn't until after the great depression began that they started to actually become more popular with regular German people.
From their origins to their popularization there were oppositional riots and strikes from the left, but from a relatively small portion of the public, mostly in Berlin. However the majority of the public were still mostly center left and center right parties who were uninterested in confronting the rise of political violence from the right. From 1918-1933 there were over 350 political assassination committed by the right compared to around 20 from the left, and the left were generally prosecuted to a much higher degree.
Populism isn't apathetic. Again, just the opposite. Populists are activists, practically by their nature.
Whether you're rallying to block deportations or throwing a riot over vaccines, the accusation that you're apathetic flies in the face of your views and actions.
Call it a technique then. But national media and the political elite blaming migrants, religious minorities, and social progressives for economic woes is nothing new.
You're thinking of what you see on the nightly news as the sum total of all activity.
For every BLM protest reported on there were dozens that never got mention. For every MAGA rally or Tea Party event, dozens flew under the radar.
I've been to events with thousands of people that never got a peep of coverage. And I've watched riots in real time that barely earned a minute of footage on the local channels.
is more than just a quip.
The same year Rosa Luxembourg was assassinated after leading the Sparticus Uprising. Two years after the Russian Revolution kicked off next door.
Hardly a dull era for German politics
They were jockeying for position among half a dozen different radical and reactionary movements. Hitler had gone to prison attempting a coup - Germany's own J6 style event - years earlier. Meanwhile, Communists, Anarchists, Liberals, and Conservatives were engaged in foreign sponsored street fights across the country.
What the Nazis achieved was an effective paramilitary that could operate with impunity in a country that was in the grip of a low key civil war.
Again, that's simply not true. The Beer Hall Putsch of '23 was in Munich, not Berlin. The Hamburg Uprising happened that same year, in an event known as German October (intended to be a parallel to the Russian October Revolution six years earlier). Blutmai, in '29, was in Berlin, but it was far from the only event leading up to the '33 dictatorship.
You had lower key actions and oppositions happening across the country. The Cuno Strikes, for instance, were nationwide.
There were over 3000 strike actions in 1918. How many of those were organized by right leaning parties?
Yeah, man. It's entirely on the apathy of voters and nothing to do with 107 years of locking up or killing any one to the left of Bernie Sanders, villianizing socialism/communism, defunding higher education, and attributing every success to capitalism and every failure on socialism.
Like, Christ on bikes man. The US was Europe's sin eater, taking all of the expectation for running the global hegemony of capitalism while Europe was forced to spend money on rebuilding. Y'all got to retreat with the ill gotten gains of empire, had enough space to force concessions on quality of living, and didn't have jackboots on your necks. Meanwhile, we became the fucking world police, with a double serving of fuck the little guys at home.
Yeah, voting for these fuckers had nothing to do with it
The article also speculates that Trump's surrender in Iran could be very bad for Israel, thanks to Iran's control of the Straight of Hormuz:
Good. Anything that hurts Israel, gives Palestinian citizens another day to breathe and live.
From what I remember about dominionism, they need isreal to exist again so that it can be destroyed. I wonder if this is the rug pull
Hahahaha.
remembers Bibi started all this
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Trump's Endgame is always a test of just how stupid America can be ... and that is the key to his success - the near bottomless pit of American idiocy
America is difficult to underestimate.
"You ain't seen nothing yet" always works when it comes to the US.
Even in my country (Canada), the news media keeps reporting on Trump as though he were a normal leader. He is not. He is a career criminal - a scammer who is robbing the US blind. Even worse: he doesn’t need to scam any more. At his disposal is the world’s largest military and nuclear arsenal. He is now attacking and robbing other countries. Next up: Cuba. He will keep on robbing and killing until somebody stops him because his greed is bigger than the Earth. Killing Trump would be a moral act.
From what I can tell, a composite opinion by the average American is now along the lines of "well I am tired of his antics but it'll blow over and be fine in a few years" but then we've deprioritized climate change and plenty of other looming issues so ignoring what he's done and normalized may be easy for us.
We still want the epstien files you fat pedo. Losing a war won't make anyone forget.
Without Americans noticing the magnitude of this defeat?
Oh… no shit. He won that metal. Imagine advancing the decline of the world’s leading empire by decades, if not centuries. Imagine all the indoctrinated, enslaved, and coerced souls who gave their blood, sweat, and tears to put the US where it was. The magnitude of the defeat is staggering. Asking an American for a status report would be like asking a tribe of moles burrowed in Mt. Everest how a recent snowstorm changed the topology of the mountain. They don’t fucking know. They can tell you the cost of oil has gone up, though.
Let's be real, there's no way the collapse of pax Americana was going to take centuries
The collapse of Pax Americana will take decades, not centuries. 1 century? Perhaps, but not centuries
Move fast and break things
Decades??? Come now, you're being overly generous. The collapse of this nightmare will be fast and violent, with lots of screaming and ruin. We might see it by the end of THIS decade.
Yeah, I agree
His endgame is to loot what he can and destroy the rest.
Trump is like 100 years old. There is no endgame but dying pretty soon, there is only the mental disorder of some kind of horder syndrom, accumulating resources he does not really need for no good reason.
I disagree. Whilst he does have mental issues, it has more to do with enriching the people who have the power to protect him another 4 years so he can avoid jail, forcibly leave a mark (he's insecure) and rile people up, as a backup plan so he can claim he can't be kicked out because it's war time
Money isn't a hoarding disease at this point, it's a way to avoid accountability
His end game is to make a lot of money. And he's doing that.
He doesn't care what happens to the poor in either country
He will have to removed by force to get him out of the White House in 28.
Why he wants that "ballroom " so bad.
Assuming the ballroom gets completed before inauguration '29, I'm fine with Trump staying in it for the rest of his life, as long as all entrances and exits are sealed, and no food or water enters.
Define "food"? Do hamberders count?
Bunkers only protect against foreign bombs. Local residents have construction equipment and concrete saws.
Or alternatively even more concrete. Could always just lock em in and then see what's left in a couple years when someone remembers.
The only way he's leaving is in a box.
We can work with that
The ballroom is a data center. It's a cash grab. He wants it because Larry Ellison and Elon Musk want it and promised him a cut.
There's already a bunker for personnel under the whitehouse. Trump is NOT building a Fuer bunker. That already exists and has for a long time.
Not to mention giving his private J6 army 1.6 Billion in taxpayer money.
This is correct. Republicans no longer needs votes of approval ratings. They are not going anywhere.
He can't leave situation because Israel won't let him
There will never be a deal
They can just restart it after November. No one wants to invade Iran in a Million degree summer heat anyway.
By then we will be in the Great Depression 2
I have been fascinated how Israel decided to partner with a party that is more and more openly inspired by Nazi Germany…. How exactly they expected things to have gone?
This is state level leopard ate my face
Hmmm, you've written as though Israel isn't itself a fascist state. Strange choice there!
Comparing the two, from my perspective, Israel resembles Nazi Germany much more closely than the USA does. Israel has a highly radicalised population that supports the genocide of other races it considers beneath them. In Israel there is overwhelming public support for massacres and dehumanised language and persecution everywhere you look.
The USA, for all its ills, hasn't committed a genocide in quite a while. Iran is still just a war.
Gaza was a massacre, humiliation and persecution of an entire race of people.
Drump will go down as one of the worst presidents in US history.
He was 45 and 47, so he'll go down as the two worst presidents in US history
That's quite the understatement. He's actively sabotaging the entire planet.
He's already entrenched in last place, according to historians, who generally like to wait at least a decade before making these judgemental. With Trump, they don't need the waiting period, or even for his term to end. He is already OBJECTIVELY the worst president in history. All he's going to do now is set a new record for how bad a president can be.
The worst by a long shot, and some of them were real sacks of shit.
Nero didn't set fire to the city, he just fiddled himself as it burnt. Trump? He pissed kerosene and lit the match.
Odds are, Trump will be considered the worst leader of a major nation in human history.
He already did that. Now it appears as though he is aiming to be the last.
Gonna take awhile though. Reagan fucked the country pretty hard and he never showed up in my HS textbooks.
Absolutely. The MAGA regime could only have existed because of the damage Reagan did. https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4
Already has. Just when you think no one could be worse than reagan.
For now. Bush was the worst once and nobody expected worse.
… twice.
FTFY.
Whatever, just do it. Cut our losses and end that shitshow.
The problem it's not going to end the problems for a long time because Iran will have every reason to not cooperate even with beneficial terms. The USA showed its hand at being managed by a 6 year old who was only concerned about his perception.
Yup, everyone who wasn't a moron knew it was dumb as fuck to start shit to begin with, but all we can do if we keep at it is make things worse.
Anyone who knows how maps work knew going to war against Iran is a stupid idea, that's why we have always used sanctions and why we were working on diplomatic resolutions under Obama, the only way to effectively attack Iran is either a compleat surprise with overwhelming force dropping a shit ton of dudes on multiple airports, or just years of what we are doing now. It's fucking stupid and futile this is going to have a net negative effect and cost far to many lives.
Common estimates are that he’s made $4B off the presidency, he got the Supreme Court to decide that any “official” act by him is legal, and sued his own justice department for $10B to orchestrate a “settlement” with a legally binding agreement to never charge him with anything.
He’s ready to retire now
Edit: oh, we’re only talking Iran? At some point Iran will propose everything they want and hype it online as trumps plan so he can say “winning!”
He has no endgame. He's planning to remain in power until he nom-noms his last Big Mac, whether that's tomorrow or 10 years from now. Unless he goes very soon, he's also going to set things up for Junior to assume power. All it will take is a very loose interpretation of the Insurrection Act.
Even if America surrenders and walks away from the Iran conflict with its tail between its legs, Donny and his cult will still claim total victory, and there is a possibility that his approval may actually get a bump from this. Just in time to steal/cancel the midterms and start anew war with Cuba, oh and don’t think he’s forgotten about Greenland…
I'm betting they want to spin this out until midterms then if the dems get congress and senate, Trump will walk away from Iran and blame it all on the Democrats not letting them "do what needed to be done".
He has no end game. Narcissists never do, because they aren't losing, because they can't, not in their own brains anyway.
Yep. And I honestly believe he is a clinical psychopath so is impulsive
He also hopes to slip away without us noticing the tens of billions of dollars he is siphoning off.
But he won the FIFA peace price...
That's fine. Now sieze his assets and force him into a nursing home.
...a nursing home in a prison.
A nursing home in a prison in a bottomless pit.
I honestly deeply despise articles like this. Articles like this are how we get trapped in forever wars. Fuck the Iran War. I didn't want it to start, and I don't want it to continue. But the main reason we get caught in forever wars is that the media lampoons any president that actually does the wise thing and ends the doomed conflict. They portray them as a coward or demonize them for letting troops' deaths go to waste.
The media helps keep us there but the wars are pushed by the military industrialists and the fascist bourgousie who benefit from the wars, without the propaganda apparatus they would still keep us trapped in wars. A president can't end the wars because the primary power of the government comes from this profit driven national security/intelligence and military apparatus.
He'll surrender, and will cause a lot of talking for approximately a couple of days. More than enough to keep you all from talking about the Trump-Epstein files until he finds something else to do so you keep your attention from the fact that HE RAPED KIDS.
You need to kill that cunt, and make it fast. November is not gonna be your saving grace, November is gonna be the confirmation of what we already know: He and his goons can do whatever the hell they want and there's nobody to stop him.
Need more of those: https://www.zazzle.com/epstein_file_distraction_surcharge_square_sticker-256995072484470104
Surrender to Iran. Distract with deposing Cuba.
It's taco time
Atlantic doesn't want what's best for you anymore than Netanyahu. This is best outcome, and it's already taking too long.
More than half of you elected him, twice...
FUBAR!!!! That simple and the MAGA nutters will continue to believe in him.
What a circus.
One thing I don't understand: shouldn't it have been extremely easy to foresee* that Iran controling the Strait of Hormuz gives them an unbeatable advantage because oil?
I also wonder what impact this will have on human and esp. women's rights violations in Iran, long term. Something tells me this is just what they needed to crack down on Western depravity even more.
* TBH I wonder that often about US military action, historically
Yes, there’s a reason Biden didn’t take the bait from Israel before Trump. Thing is Trump kind of has to listen to Israel to protect himself from consequences so he wasn’t going to tell them no.
I saw people arguing this a few times now and I don't understand. Could someone parse it for me?
Epstein was working a blackmail ring for the Mossad and Netanyahu has the goods on Trump.
EDIT: I do not know that as fact, just what I've heard.
Ghislaine Maxwells father: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell
A significant number of world leaders and influential members of society across the globe have been purposefully compromised and exploited by Israeli intelligence. Powerful people presented lavish givings and exposed to compromising situations through a coordinated decades long effort to build global control and power. It isn’t even so much that they have compromising material on Trump directly, even though they do, enough powerful people also have compromising material held by Israel that if Trump didn’t do as he was instructed then powerful compromised people across the globe would also be compelled to ensure he behaved appropriately for their own purposes. It’s not as simple as Israel having compromising material over Trump. If they release what they have the damage is done and they lose control. What gives them power over people like Trump is that they have so much compromising material about him along with other very powerful people, who will do Israel’s bidding for Israel if Trump didn’t fall in line.
I mean... look who you're talking about.
There must be advisers around him. I often wonder if either they are just as brainfried as him, or they don't dare talk back when his ego demands something.
He's got advisers, sure, all of which either got their own agenda or are dumb as fuck yes men. Some are both. Everyone has been fired or bullied out by other means by now.
They've replaced or outright destroyed entire parts of the government at this point.
Granted
This is where I wonder. What good - even in their corrupted way of thinking - could come out of losing a war. Of course there's always the arms industry, but...
I think you're on to something there.
My understanding is that the whole strategy rested on that initial strike that killed Khamenei would incite the Iranian people to rise up and overthrow the government before they could blockade the Strait
My understanding is that the whole strategy rested on that initial strike that killed Khamenei would incite the Iranian people to rise up and overthrow the government before they could blockade the Strait
Surrender?
Nobody is going to do anything to him. They‘re all too spineless.
Maybe he just felt bad about draft dodging Vietnam, and so he wanted to faithfully recreate it.
Fine! Good! Why are we criticizing this, this is the right move. This article has "hitler did terrible things; he made tactical errors" energy.
Iran has a history of using international terrorism, and the US has just re-affirmed themselves as "the great Satan", Iran's primary enemy.
While it might be the least bad outcome, it is arguably not cause for celebration. Even if you don't like Trump.
Okie! What do you propose then? Because I think reparations and a lifting of sanctions are a bit much to ask for, but I do think that would be better for global stability and peace than the US just retreating. Continued aggression by the US is of course a no go, because that has in the past led to the rise of extremist organizations (think ISIS, think al Qaeda), not to mention millions of deaths, and a severe decrease in living standards for the local population (Libya became an open air slave market after the NATO bombings, Iraq blah blah, and so on).
By the by, the label "terrorist" is kind of subjective. The nazis referred to the local resistance fighters as terrorists, and Israel (and the countries that fund their genocide) refers to Hamas as a terrorist organization. It's a fairly meaningless term aside from sounding a bit spooky. From the perspective of Palestinians and Lebanese, Hamas and Hezbollah are the resistance fighters protecting them from the violent occupier, Israel.
In the case of Hamas, it's just the government, because they elected them in the early 2000s. They operate hospitals and do other government stuff. Because they're the government. The only thing that sets it apart from the Israeli government is that the Israeli government is committing a genocide, maintaining apartheid since 67, and doing ethnic cleansing since 48.
Don't do Israel's propaganda work for them by labelling their opponents as terrorists.
No, we will never forget or forgive.
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just a dumb bitch being a dumb bitch 🤷♂️
Competitive-Nihilism, aka "mass shootings" DOES NOT SURRENDER:
IT FINISHES THE JOB.
Idiots & ignorants who "go along with" their captor, until they're IN the already-prepared-for-their-butchery secondary crime scene .. get butchered..
Project-2025 IS the secondary-crime-scene.
There is no endgame in the US except dictatorship, now,
partly because the Dem-establishment WON'T know the actual-fact of the trajectory!
& the Americas are going to be butchered-down as a result of this..
ICE is Netanyahu's "Israel"/IDF-in-Gaza, remapped into the US - https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU
ICE's new Crematoriums - https://youtu.be/aBMJOAUMb5U ( I've been telling people that these were coming for weeks, now )
Canada Greenland-caged by Trump for vanquishing - https://youtu.be/wYc8pL9joqk ( I've been telling people this was their strategy for over half a year )
The evidence exists, but ignoring-it .. protects the establishment-religion's identity-comfort.
Until Trump finally crosses the tippingpoint, rips civilrights out from under everybody, & seals the borders for complete-reconfiguring, & PURGEs, as new-dictators all need to..
53% complete, according to this: https://www.project2025.observer/en
( the fact that it's only 1/2-complete ought put profound terror in any US-citizens who're still wanting to survive the next decade )
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Magnitude of his defeat? These articles are so goddamn delusional.
Fuck this downvoting bullshit because I dont go along with the hivemind. You fucking people are straight mainlining copium in the holy vein at this point. All these bullshit leftist feelgood articles make me sick. "Trump is so done!" "Trump will be defeated!" Oh get fucked! The ENTIRE time people share these articles to make themselves feel like something is being done, this orange cunt and his tit-sucking lackeys are irreparably fucking up this country and our relationships with every other country. You people should be fucking thankful that they are so incompetent. But not anymore! The real, intelligent evil people are learning that most Americans genuinely dont give a fuck what you do, so long as you give them someone to hate and feel above. These COMPETENT evil pricks will be running things. I 100% guarantee it, because most of us Americans fucking LOVE licking the boots on our necks apparently.
So yeah, enjoy your little article about the 7,000th defeat and downfall Trump is supposed to suffer. Fucking sickening.
the pentagon has reported this conflict costing about 29 billion dollars since it started about 3 months ago. this number will go up once it ends due to long term care for veterans, not to mention the inflation it has brought americans. this erased any raises they may have gotten this year.
and all we got in return was check notes a sense of pride and accomplishment!! what a delusion article for sure lmao
Im so goddamn tired, man. I wish I could be blissfully ignorant of it all.
wearing us down is how we let these scumbags win, and you're feeling those effects.
stay informed, but also ground yourself with things in your immediate control if you're feeling burnt out. you got this 💪
Are you saying they are lying and that the USA aren't effectively losing the war in Iran? I think you're wrong.
You can't know why OP shared that article.
And I think you over- or underestimate people's happy comments here. Being happy that Trump fucked up and won't be glassing a Middle Eastern country is one thing - "Copium" is another. I honestly don't think any of the roughly 30 comments here are unaware that things are still very much fucked up in the USA.
I'll concede one point to you though: many concentrate too much on hating Trump the person, not the whole admin.
Assuming you live in the USA you still have my deepfelt empathy though. Can't be easy.
Are you saying that the American public will give one single fuck about this? I think you're wrong.
Im not happy when he suffers setbacks. Because he lashes out and does crazy shit to bury it in the news cycle. I dont even think I'll be happy when hes gone because they've set up the foundations to never lose power again. The Maga cult may die with him, but the republicans will still be going. This is not going to end. We're still dealing with the effects of presidents from 50 years ago.
You must understand that my bitterness comes from being a trucker in rural areas and living in the south US. I have met the dumbest people alive. I've had conversations with several people all over the country who openly admit that Trump is damaging America, but "If we elect a democrat, there wont be an America!" These people openly support him, despite their lives being significantly worse, admittedly because of Trump. They've been radicalized to think Leftists are baby-eaters or whatever particular flavor of conspiracy thats rattling around in their head. I have met and interacted with countless people who truly believe these things. Thats not even mentioning the news cycle and algorithms pushing this radical stuff onto people. We are fucked.
I feel you, I really do.
Maybe I see it differently not only because I don't live there and don't suffer directly, but also because I see how other countries - both their leaders and their people - react.
And I maintain: being gleeful about this one thing doesn't mean all the other things you're saying. Maybe you should try it too.
I gave a downvote for getting pissy about downvotes.
Me too 😁