"Sideloading" is anti-property-rights loaded language.
The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is "installing normally."
It is the act of capitulating to Google's control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I've been able to come up with is "cuckloading," though I'm not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.
"Google loading" isn't derisive enough. The example I came up with isn't quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like "simploading?" Or "dipshitloading?" "Brownloading" (think like "brownnosing")? IDK, I'm just spitballing here.
To really sell it in the US anyway, you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading” (which sounds very Tom Petty, or porn related like “loadblowing”)
Then to rename the vendor locked loading is tricky. Even the old term “jailbreaking” has negative or criminal connotations. Though the jail is where you were wrongfully imprisoned, but that doesn’t convey easily. You could try to flip it around and call the locked down version “jail loading”. Or “commie loading”, all you would need to do is get some democrats to pretend to support vendor lockin.
Problem is any legislator on either side is in the pocket of the corporations who will oppose this, so there is no incentive for a propaganda campaign on the other side. So everyone will renain convinced sideloading is evil criminal hacker shit.
Nah cuckloading is perfect. The best way to make an insult like that not effectively belong to the sexists is just to use it in non-sexist contexts. The intrinsic meaning of cuck is perfect for this. Fuck the extrinsic meaning. We can change that.
Complains about how language is politicized and used to control people and then turn around and do the same exact thing for another topic in the same breath. Jesus.
Can't cure stupidity, except if it's based on a lack of knowledge, right? Then again, the stupid-stupid person will just see education as a punishment 😁
You're missing the point. It is "just" the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it "sideloading" they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I'm pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.
The name might well have come from the community, since the whole app store model is as old as the modern smartphone, and downloading a different way is new, while possible, was always for power users.
If there had been a more normal software ecosystem from the get-go that would have been nice. Actual regulation to enforce device freedom would also be good.
Being able to download and install software from somewhere that isn't the app store has been available the entire time, it is not "new". I remember downloading .apk files and installing them on my first android phone, and it just worked. It wasn't until my 3rd or 4th phone that you had to start enabling "unknown sources" to install a .apk, and they have been working to make it harder ever since.
With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.
The classic "you are too dumb to choose" if only education was a thing...
We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.
GrapheneOS unaffected - > more enthusiasts switch to it - > more funding - > better UX - > more interest, more adoption from less tech savvy people, possible professional grapheneOS installation services (think a guy helping gam gam install windows for a bit of cash, to start)
And so begins the beautiful cycle of mainstream adoption of something great
Or at least that's what I tell myself when the current tech world scares me at night
Graphene, at least in its current state, is dependent on Google continuing to allow Pixel phone bootloader's to be unlocked and relocked after a new OS is installed, and is dependent on Google for receiving timely upstream security update patches as well. Given Google's current direction my guess is that both these things might be threatened in the future.
No, I mean grapheneOS. From my findings you get pretty much everything that a normal android phone gets, except contactless payments because of the google and apple duopoly on that front.
You can set up multiple users / containers, separate out google bs from your own private life, etc, all pretty intuitively if I remember right.
I've only heard of LineageOS here and there. I'm fully unfamiliar with that one
You can technically use Curve. Though I immediately got flagged for extra verification and the support team said that the verification team is overloaded so not to hold my breath. Been waiting for over a month now.
That's what you get for not being a corporate drone.
Indian accent: "Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don't tell anyone you received this call."
There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that's not a good solution.
It's also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.
I have to say some countries are really heavy on this. Myanmar and some provinces in India. Usually it's corrupt governments profiting from the scams so they turn a blind eye.
There should be more international pressure on this. Geoblocks won't help because they'll just proxy. But completely withholding development aid until they stop their crimes will.
Also putting the top figures on international ban lists of course.
I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.
And this isn't about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn't an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.
The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it's not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch
We need those phone shops that actually can hack your phones back, just like when we use custom OS in nokia phones pre-smartphones, normalize custom ROM again.
Heads up that you should still be able to sideload over ADB (the origin of the term on android, after all) without the wait, so setting up a new device before the 24 hours are up is still doable.
Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via "sideloading non verified apps?"
I do not know the number. But I don't think there are that many cases. Most scams I've seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.
Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you're going out of your way to install non-standard apps you're likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.
If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you'd probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.
I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.
The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)
I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a "side loaded" app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they're calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.
It does create extra blocks, but isn't going to be as effective as eg. The helmet law for stopping motorcycle theft. (Compulsory helmet -> cannot just take any unattended motorcycle without being sus)
What kind of apps are there that "typically" need to be installed "urgently"? Sure I can work around the delay most of the time (and be at worst annoyed out of my brain by it) but that's not how a user experience is meant to be designed, is it?
For a couple of years we directly loaded our app onto dedicated devices that we deployed to client locations. Adding an extra day to this process would require some extra work / planning.
This is for an app that isn't on the Play Store, and many of these devices don't have GMS, or a store or browser on them.
We've since moved entirely to an MDM, so this isn't really an issue anymore, but we do occasionally run into a device that's not yet been enrolled and still uses the manual installation
Putting barriers is a systemic disadvantage and we're right to criticize it, especially since once they establish the president that they're allowed to do this they can go farther. That always happens and every time you're told you're being ridiculous stop overreacting
Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i'm with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of 'security', go fuck ur security, I know what I'm doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!
When I get a new phone, I'll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.
I highly doubt 2026 will be the year of the Linux handheld. But if Linux on the desktop continues growing the way it currently is, it could lay the groundwork for Linux on handhelds.
Realistically, I don't think any year will be the year when Linux for mobile takes off, ironically for the same reason why Windows Phone failed, and that is app availability, or the "will my banking app work on it?" problem.
We really can't find a sincere friendly OS like Linux.
I wish Linux and other friendly phone systems had more hardware support.
Android is dominating with its "I'm the ruler" philosophy, bc Google knows the alternatives are limited.
I'm not going to spend good money on another Android phone and because of this. I used to be willing to tolerate it to some extent but I'm done now. Any further Android devices are going to be low-end burner phones for a specific needs that I can't meet otherwise. Having a Linux phone is now a matter of necessity not something that would be nice to have
The last one is probably true, though. Most Android users don't care about sideloading. Those who are being pressured to do so will face the 24 hour lock.
On the other hand, I'm an iPhone user who knows Android as well as anyone. So if I were to pick up, say a Pixel 11 Pro or a Galaxy S27 (so, looking at next year's lineup), the first thing I'm gonna do is hit that developer option to enable sideloading. I know where it is. I know how to unlock it. And I know the risks. In the meantime I'm gonna set up Nova Prime, I'm gonna put Poweramp on it, I'm gonna be setting up KLCK and KLWP (and maybe KWGT) and all the other apps. By the time I need to sideload anything, I'll have the important stuff out of the way and shouldn't have to wait that long.
it is still the same company. if you think they respect your privacy just because you paid them, that is on you. but bragging about it publicly in a comment where you try to sound like super experienced user seems funny.
How often do you get a new phone? My Galaxy S10 from 2019 still kicks ass. It doesn't do any of the Galaxy AI stuff, and I'm okay with that.
I really don't think the 24 hour thing matters all that much. If it's the first thing you do when you get the new phone, and then you start setting stuff up, by the time you want to go looking for stuff to sideload, a lot of that time's down the drain.
It also begs the question of — and magnifies the silence of the lack of answers to a deafening roar — what actually needs to be sideloaded, let alone what is so crucial the 24 hours is any kind of a pain point. Worst case scenario, you hold onto your old phone for those 24 hours, before wiping it and selling it (or whatever you do).
I change every 3-4 years but that's not the point. A 24-hour delay plays into the "sideloading" thing. You could theoretically "sideload" all your apps, it shouldn't be a secondary thing. Waiting 24h doesn't matter in normal cases. Now if your phone breaks and needs to be switched immediately it could be an issue.
The Google page I read was the opposite of that. The first time you unlock sideloading, they'll warn you and make you wait for a day. From then on it's unlocked.
While I hate Google with a passion, and don't trust them at all, this seems like a reasonable way to handle the issue of non tech people being coerced into sideloading unsavory apps by scammers.
Remind me why the fuck I removed Google Play Services from my Motorola here and replaced them with microG because of a maps app that needed it? Oh it's because of this.... Yeah. Lol.
Literally why would I not just buy an iphone if google goes through with disabling sideloading
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
Yes I call it side loading and I will continue to because its just what its called when you install through means outside of an official repo. using this term is not an acvnowledgement of any vind of illegitimacy of this process.
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Whether it's the correct name or not, using the word doesn't spread awareness very well. When someone hears sideloading they'd likely assume that it's loading an app on the side aka splitscreen, and they wouldn't care enough to search it up.
There is an even worse consequence. If the "advanced flow" is managed by Google Play Services, under the current mechanism, scammers can simply tell their victims to disable Google Play Services. Consequently, Google could block the ability to disable their proprietary blobs under the pretext of "protecting users".
"Sideloading" is obviously a ridiculous term made by Google. Is there anything called like this on Windows?
"Sideloading" is anti-property-rights loaded language.
The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is "installing normally."
It is the act of capitulating to Google's control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I've been able to come up with is "cuckloading," though I'm not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.
Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. "Google loading" maybe.
The we just go back to "installing".
Walled-Garden-stalling?
"A googol steps to add an app"
Authoritarian-stall
Package Micromanager
Daddy Google's allowances
Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware
Controlware is good.
"Google loading" isn't derisive enough. The example I came up with isn't quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like "simploading?" Or "dipshitloading?" "Brownloading" (think like "brownnosing")? IDK, I'm just spitballing here.
I was thinking bitchloading. Cause you're their bitch.
To really sell it in the US anyway, you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading” (which sounds very Tom Petty, or porn related like “loadblowing”)
Then to rename the vendor locked loading is tricky. Even the old term “jailbreaking” has negative or criminal connotations. Though the jail is where you were wrongfully imprisoned, but that doesn’t convey easily. You could try to flip it around and call the locked down version “jail loading”. Or “commie loading”, all you would need to do is get some democrats to pretend to support vendor lockin.
Problem is any legislator on either side is in the pocket of the corporations who will oppose this, so there is no incentive for a propaganda campaign on the other side. So everyone will renain convinced sideloading is evil criminal hacker shit.
freeloading is already a verb in english, and not the one you're looking for
"Ransom loading"?
"Slaveloading". Because who doesn't want to be a corporate slave?
Nah cuckloading is perfect. The best way to make an insult like that not effectively belong to the sexists is just to use it in non-sexist contexts. The intrinsic meaning of cuck is perfect for this. Fuck the extrinsic meaning. We can change that.
"Sexism adjacent"...
Complains about how language is politicized and used to control people and then turn around and do the same exact thing for another topic in the same breath. Jesus.
Awww... Uncle Google just wants what's best for me! So what's the harm in getting into his van? What's the worst that could happen?
And now we know this "reporter", Patrick Campanale, is a bootlicker
Let's not jump to conclusions! He just might really be this stupid to believe these claims.
Let's punish both types in the same manner to make them both stop.
I like the energy but, ideally, stupidity/ignorance should be punished with education.
Can't cure stupidity, except if it's based on a lack of knowledge, right? Then again, the stupid-stupid person will just see education as a punishment 😁
More than likely 'Patrick Campanale' is just ChatGPT
Patrick Campanale, you're a spineless corporate shill and I hope one day, you will pay for that spinelessness
The comments on that article seem to agree with you.
Link?
I don’t want to push too much traffic to this guy’s post but it’s titled “Android's new 24-hour sideloading delay should've happened years ago”
https://www.howtogeek.com/android-24-hour-sideloading-delay-shouldve-happened-years-ago/#threads
You can visit it with uBlock so you don't generate them money.
"Sideload" is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.
May as well call it "jayloading" 😒
Sidewalking
You're missing the point. It is "just" the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it "sideloading" they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I'm pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.
I'm not missing any point at all, your post is in essential agreement with mine, lol.
The name might well have come from the community, since the whole app store model is as old as the modern smartphone, and downloading a different way
is new, while possible, was always for power users.If there had been a more normal software ecosystem from the get-go that would have been nice. Actual regulation to enforce device freedom would also be good.
Being able to download and install software from somewhere that isn't the app store has been available the entire time, it is not "new". I remember downloading .apk files and installing them on my first android phone, and it just worked. It wasn't until my 3rd or 4th phone that you had to start enabling "unknown sources" to install a .apk, and they have been working to make it harder ever since.
Shit, I wrote that wrong. Trying to do too many things at once.
Stop using such shit excuses. Keep Android Open!!
The majority of people are stupid. Who would have thought.
-cunts that write shitty articles like this
I feel like this is terribly unfunny but mom didn't make no bitch so I'm not deleting it
Which is not our problem.
If they are stupid they need education. Not rubber tiles and safety fences.
The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?
See, it's flawless logic /s
With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.
The classic "you are too dumb to choose" if only education was a thing...
We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.
Also, it locks alternative sources to the Play Store out. How convenient, right?
grapheneOS wont be affected by this so, atleast we dont loose all hope
Yeah, but those few million users are not global-market-relevant.
It's still good.
GrapheneOS unaffected - > more enthusiasts switch to it - > more funding - > better UX - > more interest, more adoption from less tech savvy people, possible professional grapheneOS installation services (think a guy helping gam gam install windows for a bit of cash, to start)
And so begins the beautiful cycle of mainstream adoption of something great
Or at least that's what I tell myself when the current tech world scares me at night
Graphene, at least in its current state, is dependent on Google continuing to allow Pixel phone bootloader's to be unlocked and relocked after a new OS is installed, and is dependent on Google for receiving timely upstream security update patches as well. Given Google's current direction my guess is that both these things might be threatened in the future.
a dream for the FOSS, which i hope becomes real
Are you mistaking GrapheneOS with LineageOS? GrapheneOS is for security enthusiasts, too inconvenient and limited to devices for me.
Edit: typo
No, I mean grapheneOS. From my findings you get pretty much everything that a normal android phone gets, except contactless payments because of the google and apple duopoly on that front.
You can set up multiple users / containers, separate out google bs from your own private life, etc, all pretty intuitively if I remember right.
I've only heard of LineageOS here and there. I'm fully unfamiliar with that one
You can technically use Curve. Though I immediately got flagged for extra verification and the support team said that the verification team is overloaded so not to hold my breath. Been waiting for over a month now.
That's what you get for not being a corporate drone.
Yea I tried Curve too but couldn't get past KYC... I was told to message support, did so, and got no response in like a month.
I asked for my data to be deleted, and waited another month for a response. Now it's deleted supposedly.
Idk seems pretty unproffesional to me... They probably only support the largest EU countries ID's..
Indian accent: "Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don't tell anyone you received this call."
Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.
Whats even better is that they usually just use team viewer for remote access, which is ON THE PLAY STORE
That's so much extra work and chance for them to ask someone they know.
The real sollution is to lock India off the internet until they crack down on all their scammers.
There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that's not a good solution.
It's also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.
Ban phone calls? It's long overdue.
Why do we even need to have a phone number just to have access to the internet on the go?
The work around is to get Jason Statham to live out his Beekeeper role IRL.
I have to say some countries are really heavy on this. Myanmar and some provinces in India. Usually it's corrupt governments profiting from the scams so they turn a blind eye.
There should be more international pressure on this. Geoblocks won't help because they'll just proxy. But completely withholding development aid until they stop their crimes will.
Also putting the top figures on international ban lists of course.
Is this winston churchhill?
Hey maybe you're not racist, maybe you're just watching too many youtube videos
I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.
And this isn't about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn't an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.
Don't worry buddy, I get it. I feel the same way about USA
The question is then if you feel the same about Russia, China, Iran, and Israel?
I mean, yes, but not nearly as much
Yes, there are many problematic states, probably all of them. That's why people thought it was sus when you singled out india.
My advice: Download a geo-IP database and firewall yourself in.
The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it's not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch
As someone who replaces "core" apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.
We need those phone shops that actually can hack your phones back, just like when we use custom OS in nokia phones pre-smartphones, normalize custom ROM again.
Heads up that you should still be able to sideload over ADB (the origin of the term on android, after all) without the wait, so setting up a new device before the 24 hours are up is still doable.
How does that affect you more than once? Isn't this just after initial setup?
Makes me think of this overgrown pinky toe.
Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via "sideloading non verified apps?"
I do not know the number. But I don't think there are that many cases. Most scams I've seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.
Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you're going out of your way to install non-standard apps you're likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.
If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you'd probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.
* than.
Fuck's sake.
Can't expect them to know what good grammar is while fellating Google's nuts!
Freudian slip?
First it will help more people, then it hurts.
c/accidentallycorrect
I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.
The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)
I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a "side loaded" app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they're calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.
But 24h?
Scammers spoof the caller ID. Blocking numbers doesn’t do shit because those aren’t their real numbers.
It does create extra blocks, but isn't going to be as effective as eg. The helmet law for stopping motorcycle theft. (Compulsory helmet -> cannot just take any unattended motorcycle without being sus)
Everything on my grapheneOs is sideloaded,
Everything on my GrapheneOS is installed normally, by which I mean "however the fuck I want".
Fuck allowing the act of exercising your rights as the owner to be demonized with bullshit loaded language!
Why not get an alternative store? Perhaps F-Droid.
Everything is loaded from fdroid or obtanium
I think it's a Google Play Services thing. That's what I've heard.
Sideload deez nuts
I thought surely this was a joke. ... I thought.
Sent from GrapheneOS
The opinions of a christian youth pastor who loves claude code.
Patrick you should go fuck yourself, you are not different from that low life systemd age field PR asshole
Why would it first help people and then hurt them?
strange sequence of events
I prefer package managers & installing software to locked corpo market bullshit loading
What kind of apps are there that "typically" need to be installed "urgently"? Sure I can work around the delay most of the time (and be at worst annoyed out of my brain by it) but that's not how a user experience is meant to be designed, is it?
Anything I want right now that Google is blocking me from is urgent.
How long am I supposed to beg to use my own device?
I'm with you, I'm questioning the wording in the OP's picture.
For a couple of years we directly loaded our app onto dedicated devices that we deployed to client locations. Adding an extra day to this process would require some extra work / planning.
This is for an app that isn't on the Play Store, and many of these devices don't have GMS, or a store or browser on them.
We've since moved entirely to an MDM, so this isn't really an issue anymore, but we do occasionally run into a device that's not yet been enrolled and still uses the manual installation
Putting barriers is a systemic disadvantage and we're right to criticize it, especially since once they establish the president that they're allowed to do this they can go farther. That always happens and every time you're told you're being ridiculous stop overreacting
Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i'm with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of 'security', go fuck ur security, I know what I'm doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!
When I get a new phone, I'll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.
Is 2026 going to be the year of the Linux handheld? /s
(No, Android is no more a Linux OS than the PlayStation is a BSD fork.)
I highly doubt 2026 will be the year of the Linux handheld. But if Linux on the desktop continues growing the way it currently is, it could lay the groundwork for Linux on handhelds.
Realistically, I don't think any year will be the year when Linux for mobile takes off, ironically for the same reason why Windows Phone failed, and that is app availability, or the "will my banking app work on it?" problem.
you can use most android apps on linux as far as i know
We really can't find a sincere friendly OS like Linux. I wish Linux and other friendly phone systems had more hardware support. Android is dominating with its "I'm the ruler" philosophy, bc Google knows the alternatives are limited.
If you root Android... It's pretty much a Linux OS.
I'm not going to spend good money on another Android phone and because of this. I used to be willing to tolerate it to some extent but I'm done now. Any further Android devices are going to be low-end burner phones for a specific needs that I can't meet otherwise. Having a Linux phone is now a matter of necessity not something that would be nice to have
Even my windows using wife is considering a Linux phone over this
Nice! Let us know what solution y'all go for.
I'm throwing my phone into the sea the moment it tells me I'm not allowed to do something.
Hate to break it to you, but this is just the next assfucking in a long line of assfuckings. Your phone already won't let you:
I mean, maybe, hopefully, this will finally be the assfucking that wakes us the fuck up.
I don't care what other phones do.
Which phone do you have that doesn't do this? (Unless you have a Linux phone, but then you'll be unaffected by this whole change anyway)
Nokia 3210?
The last one is probably true, though. Most Android users don't care about sideloading. Those who are being pressured to do so will face the 24 hour lock.
On the other hand, I'm an iPhone user who knows Android as well as anyone. So if I were to pick up, say a Pixel 11 Pro or a Galaxy S27 (so, looking at next year's lineup), the first thing I'm gonna do is hit that developer option to enable sideloading. I know where it is. I know how to unlock it. And I know the risks. In the meantime I'm gonna set up Nova Prime, I'm gonna put Poweramp on it, I'm gonna be setting up KLCK and KLWP (and maybe KWGT) and all the other apps. By the time I need to sideload anything, I'll have the important stuff out of the way and shouldn't have to wait that long.
https://www.androidauthority.com/nova-launcher-acquisition-ads-update-3633871/
I said Nova Prime. That's the paid version.
I know what they're doing to free users, and it's a shame. No one ever said anything about the paid version.
it is still the same company. if you think they respect your privacy just because you paid them, that is on you. but bragging about it publicly in a comment where you try to sound like super experienced user seems funny.
This means though that now the important stuff HAS to come from the play store or you have a 24-hour penalty every time you get a new phone.
How often do you get a new phone? My Galaxy S10 from 2019 still kicks ass. It doesn't do any of the Galaxy AI stuff, and I'm okay with that.
I really don't think the 24 hour thing matters all that much. If it's the first thing you do when you get the new phone, and then you start setting stuff up, by the time you want to go looking for stuff to sideload, a lot of that time's down the drain.
It also begs the question of — and magnifies the silence of the lack of answers to a deafening roar — what actually needs to be sideloaded, let alone what is so crucial the 24 hours is any kind of a pain point. Worst case scenario, you hold onto your old phone for those 24 hours, before wiping it and selling it (or whatever you do).
I change every 3-4 years but that's not the point. A 24-hour delay plays into the "sideloading" thing. You could theoretically "sideload" all your apps, it shouldn't be a secondary thing. Waiting 24h doesn't matter in normal cases. Now if your phone breaks and needs to be switched immediately it could be an issue.
The way I understood it is you have to wait 24 hours every time, not just for activating dev options.
Edit: apparently I was mistaken.
The Google page I read was the opposite of that. The first time you unlock sideloading, they'll warn you and make you wait for a day. From then on it's unlocked.
While I hate Google with a passion, and don't trust them at all, this seems like a reasonable way to handle the issue of non tech people being coerced into sideloading unsavory apps by scammers.
Okay, if that's indeed the case, it's at
bestworst patronising, yes.(This leaves of course the other, bigger issues of added hurdles to developers)
Edit: Worst is the word.
It just sounds like they came up with an excuse to try and be non-compliant with the European Union's ruling that they're an illegal Monopoly
Link to the article (for the comments, the article itself is pretty much AI)
https://www.howtogeek.com/android-24-hour-sideloading-delay-shouldve-happened-years-ago/
He very technicaly speaking is correct. Pepole are dumb as bricks when it comes to technology.
Remind me why the fuck I removed Google Play Services from my Motorola here and replaced them with microG because of a maps app that needed it? Oh it's because of this.... Yeah. Lol.
Literally why would I not just buy an iphone if google goes through with disabling sideloading
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Yes I call it side loading and I will continue to because its just what its called when you install through means outside of an official repo. using this term is not an acvnowledgement of any vind of illegitimacy of this process. :::
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Whether it's the correct name or not, using the word doesn't spread awareness very well. When someone hears sideloading they'd likely assume that it's loading an app on the side aka splitscreen, and they wouldn't care enough to search it up.
How much did Google pay him to write this? Asking for a friend
There is an even worse consequence. If the "advanced flow" is managed by Google Play Services, under the current mechanism, scammers can simply tell their victims to disable Google Play Services. Consequently, Google could block the ability to disable their proprietary blobs under the pretext of "protecting users".
"Sideloading" is obviously a ridiculous term made by Google. Is there anything called like this on Windows?