Kinda the ultimate name for a boomer shooter. And I just now realised how easily misinterpreted that name can be, had never thought of the "boomer" part as the generational term. It has no connection to that but I absolutely think many people think it does.
To an extent, COVID hit some of the oldest boomers - it was a little early, if we had held of COVID for another 10 years it definitely would have been a prime boomer expiration accelerator.
As things are, my parents are some of the earliest boomers and they're just turning 80. The death-rate boom should be picking up speed soon. Too bad they're giving all their acumumulated wealth to the healthcare industry instead of their kids.
Nah, they have a reverse mortgage on them so you'll need to buy them at further inflated prices because of it. Your inheritance was just debt and crippling depression.
The baby boom was ten years or so. The death boom is more spread out…people start dying in their 60s and can live into their 90s. So figure 30 years or so for the “boom.” Much harder to notice.
Starts with a "oh shit these old people have expensive healthcare needs!", proceeds to "how the hell are we going to pay for their elder benefits?" (Social Security in the US), and eventually to "even their houses got gobbled up by the banks and private capital when they had to reverse mortgage their homes to pay off their medical bills and live out their final days...."
The "baby boom" happened between 1946 and 1964, an 18 year period. Not everyone will die within an 18 year period. Some have already passed, some will live into their 90's and could be around until the 2060's
But the noise! Figuring out the optimal way to zone so it’s not too noisy, polluted, and people have space to park is one of the trickier parts of the game. (But I like the challenge.)
The real trick is that everything doesn't fit nicely in a nice neat little glove-fitty block irl, so mirror that.
Mixed zoning doesn't necessarily mean you got office abutting residential abutting commercial abutting industrial.
Think of a suburb/city burb. Do you know any that have like 20 blocks of residential? None! Doesn't exist! Maybe like 2-4 blocks max before you break up the neighborhoods with some commercial and light industry or some offices. Even residential neighborhoods have gas stations on the arterial roads connecting them.
So like, don't look where the wind blows, where the fertile soil is, and say "okay that quadrant of the map is for all my industry." You'll get high resource costs due to traffic. Don't make a mega commercial center, not even Broadway in nyc...
God dammit I havent played in like 2 months. Fine. I'll make a new city.
Ugh happened at my job. Everyone older than me retired. All of them. So only ppl my age are running the show. Didn't help they did payouts for early retirement 3x.
Yes of course. The aging population phenomenon is well-documented. In Japan, it has been a matter of political discussion for decades. The U.S. has (until recently) relied on immigration to offset the declining birth rate.
Sort of. You do get an increase in death rates decades later as people from a baby boom eventually die. However births tend to be in relative sync (closer together anyway) during a baby boom say over a period of a few years, while deaths are much more spread out maybe over a decade or more. That's because other factors come into play such as individual health, and the differences in people of the same age's health depending on economic state and lifestyle etc. In otherwords, lots of people may have been born in say 1945 but their deaths will be spread out over years because not everyone dies at the same age.
Many western countries are going through a period of natural population decline due to low birth rates and increasing death rates as baby boomers from 1945 onwards start dying. But those deaths are spread out, and somewhat offset by immigration. So yes more people are dying but populations are overall stable or even growing as immigrants flow in.
Of the 76M Boomers born between '45 and '69, 64M are still alive. With a life expectancy of 85 and the first traumch entering their 80s this year, we would expect to see a rapid fall off in the population (or a rapid climb in life expectancy average) over the next decade
You have to be careful with life expectancy. The LE of someone who is already 80 is much higher than that of a newborn. There are actuary tables if you want to look for them.
Yeah, it's already happening in places like Japan but what'll really do it in for everyone is WW3. Any day now and Trump will cause it. I'd wage money but we all know once that starts, currency won't be worth damn.
Respectfully, whenever I hear this I have to push back.
'The boomers fucked us over' trope is largely a myth like 'first world consumers are responsible for climate change': it's a cultural narrative that exists to divert blame to a huge group to obscure that it's mostly a small group of investors and their corporations who (in both of these cases) fucked over the other 99% of the civilisation.
It's true that most of the worst people are boomers: but as a group, most boomers are not these people. Most boomers are poor and have lived their whole lives in a fake democracy where they never really had serious political power.
The elderly greeters at Walmart who can never retire; the old woman at the bus stop wearing chipped glasses with a prescription 10 years out of date; the guy at the VA home dying of cancer he got from being drafted into Vietnam; these aren't the people who fucked the rest of us over. They're just us, older.
Again, I don't want this to be a fight, but this isn't really true. Again, our media presents a certain picture of boomers that isn't actually reflective of what the average boomer looks like.
Most boomers aren't country club Republicans. In 2024, most baby boomers did not vote for Donald Trump.
You read that right: 25% didn't vote, and of those who did, Trump won 49%. That was enough to win.
Maybe you're asking, though, 'Why didn't they vote Democrat more! They should've elected Gore! And lots of Democratic congresspersons and senators! To which I would say that we live in a very damaged democracy in which the Democratic party has been running on most of the same economic policies as Republicans since the 1970s. Most boomers didn't have a say.
Most boomers are poor and have been fucked over by the government just like the rest of us.
The ruling class owned and controlled media has been peddling intergenerational conflict for decades, and millenials remember it well, all of the news articles about how millenials are causing all of society's problems.
We need to realize that it was always a psyop to divide us. From boomers to zoomers, the working class must stand together in solidarity against the elite pedophile billionaire cabal running the planet.
We need to come together but in terms of convincing the Baby Boomers, it's a server uphill battle that'll get worse as they age. They had so much environmental lead that as they age it's seeping out form their bones. I don't know if there's more recent studies on it but it's not NOT having an effect.
There are already boomers who are on our side. Yeah, the majority have been sucking down propaganda all their lives and are probably a lost cause, but pushing anti-boomer messaging doesn't do anything to help them realize the problems in society are caused by the ruling class, it just makes them feel attacked and defensive, and people like that are more likely to withdraw and become more extreme and set in their ways.
Our messaging should be consistently anti-ruling class and focused on cost of living and that sort of thing. Conservative/reactionary boomers are just useful idiots playing the role of both victim and perpetrator, they just do what they're told and repeat propaganda fed to them.
People write those articles because the readers want to believe it. They write the article. They get positive reviews or, since most news moved to the internet, clicks. As people read such articles, they come to believe in it and will be interested in more such articles in the future.
The people who do the research and polling on generational opinions also are more likely to continue when it brings them attention.
It's simple human nature and some activities getting rewarded and therefore are repeated. It requires no secret cabal nor centralized control. It's driven by the invisible hand and societal evolution.
Don't worry, you'll be able to censor stuff like that if your guys get power.
I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding, I don't believe that there's some centralized control or secret society going on, but the problem is the "invisible hand" operates to the benefit of those with power and wealth, and never against them.
It's well known that the press has to keep special interest groups happy in return for access, for example, and that is one of the reasons that Israel is spared from critique in the mainstream press. It's a far more complex system than just some shadowy group deciding what to cover, but rather a system of perverse incentives that all works to keep the powerful in power and to make the wealthy wealthier.
It doesn't really matter why the media has/does push intergenerational warfare, ultimately - just that they do, and that benefits the ruling class to the detriment of working class solidarity.
Not sure who "you guys" is referring to, but I am absolutely against censorship and all kinds of authoritarianism and coercion.
this is from gemini but 2005 would be the year 2/3rds of the greatest gen had passed away and 2028 will be silent generation. 2045 for boomers and X is 2064. So we are just getting to the point where more elderly boomers are dying over silent generation. Whats funny is it will be much longer for Xers to overtake boomers because of how large the boomers are and how small the Xers are and then it will be a shorter time once there are more millenials dying because they also are larger. Boomers will be the main diers for like 30 years going forward. I mean using current life expectancy anyway.
Generally, you'll see terms like "demographic collapse" instead, but yeah basically.
A lot of people were born during the immediate post-WWII years. Those people are now dying. Cause and effect.
Death Boom sounds cooler
I agree 💀
"deleted by creator"
Yes indeed
I mean, thats kind of taking the religious route.
Unless you're claiming the greatest generation is coming back from the dead as zombies just to kill their children.
......which is totally a thing they would do.
Who'd have thought me being a tosser and replying to the wrong comment would spark such a theological debate!
I agree Deleted makes sense
Darth Boomer: "No... I am your father."
Luke Y-walker: "No, that's not true! That's impossible!"
It sounds like Guile's special move for when someone's royally pissed him off.
Kinda the ultimate name for a boomer shooter. And I just now realised how easily misinterpreted that name can be, had never thought of the "boomer" part as the generational term. It has no connection to that but I absolutely think many people think it does.
But is there something cooler?
Corpse boom?
Grave Wave?
HEARSE FARCE
Boomer doom boom?
Morpheus toon makes room for the death boom.
Also 'boom' sounds a lot more fun, like a party with games or refreshments.
Sick band name
Dammit, you beat me too it
Death Boom sounds cool but the opposite would be "Birth Boom".
I think it should be "Corpse Boom".
I remember seeing "papy boom" in some French school books.
It's going to be a lot cooler, too... On average these people have destroyed the world at a higher rate than those before them.
Boomer death death boom.
To an extent, COVID hit some of the oldest boomers - it was a little early, if we had held of COVID for another 10 years it definitely would have been a prime boomer expiration accelerator.
As things are, my parents are some of the earliest boomers and they're just turning 80. The death-rate boom should be picking up speed soon. Too bad they're giving all their acumumulated wealth to the healthcare industry instead of their kids.
We just want them to give us their houses.
Nah, they have a reverse mortgage on them so you'll need to buy them at further inflated prices because of it. Your inheritance was just debt and crippling depression.
Best we can do is a huge wave of reverse mortgages and Medicaid seizures due to end of life medical bills.
The baby boom was ten years or so. The death boom is more spread out…people start dying in their 60s and can live into their 90s. So figure 30 years or so for the “boom.” Much harder to notice.
Starts with a "oh shit these old people have expensive healthcare needs!", proceeds to "how the hell are we going to pay for their elder benefits?" (Social Security in the US), and eventually to "even their houses got gobbled up by the banks and private capital when they had to reverse mortgage their homes to pay off their medical bills and live out their final days...."
Yup.
It has already started.
I think the deaths are a little more spread out.
yes. it's actually a huge thing the funeral world is dreading.
Publicly dreading, privately planning what they are going to do with all that extra cash.
There's GOLD in them caskets
Not if the retirement homes take it first!
We can only fucking hope...
The "baby boom" happened between 1946 and 1964, an 18 year period. Not everyone will die within an 18 year period. Some have already passed, some will live into their 90's and could be around until the 2060's
I like to call them death waves because that is what we called them in Cities Skylines.
A baby is the product of birth, the product of death is a corpse, so it'd be a corpse bloom.
I think you may be looking for this: https://ourworldindata.org/births-and-deaths
This website keeps coming up. They do a great job.
The worst part of WWIII will be the second wave boomers, because they’ll trigger WWIV when they age out of relevancy.
Yes. We have been talking about it for 30 years at this point.
One can only hope.
It's normally thought of as more of a "baby bust" but same thing really, a big whack of old people around for a while.
We had one in 2020 and 2021
Retirement is more of a synchronized event, because folks generally retire around the same age...
People are generally born at the same age too.
Yes, but the point is their dying is more of a distribution.
Unless it's Cities Skylines. Then they all die at the same exact moment and your entire network gets slammed with hearses unable to get anywhere.
Nah bro you just need more cemeteries and crematoriums, more hearses. Less dense neighborhoods with more mixed zoning.
But the noise! Figuring out the optimal way to zone so it’s not too noisy, polluted, and people have space to park is one of the trickier parts of the game. (But I like the challenge.)
The real trick is that everything doesn't fit nicely in a nice neat little glove-fitty block irl, so mirror that.
Mixed zoning doesn't necessarily mean you got office abutting residential abutting commercial abutting industrial.
Think of a suburb/city burb. Do you know any that have like 20 blocks of residential? None! Doesn't exist! Maybe like 2-4 blocks max before you break up the neighborhoods with some commercial and light industry or some offices. Even residential neighborhoods have gas stations on the arterial roads connecting them.
So like, don't look where the wind blows, where the fertile soil is, and say "okay that quadrant of the map is for all my industry." You'll get high resource costs due to traffic. Don't make a mega commercial center, not even Broadway in nyc...
God dammit I havent played in like 2 months. Fine. I'll make a new city.
LOL.
But to be fair, OP did not specify whether it's Cyties Skylines or not.
Ugh happened at my job. Everyone older than me retired. All of them. So only ppl my age are running the show. Didn't help they did payouts for early retirement 3x.
But OP is imagining they'll all die at the same time too.
Americans can't afford nursing homes and elder care.
So, afraid death it is. Hope there's no reverse mortgage for any of you to deal with.
Sure as fuck hope so
Yes of course. The aging population phenomenon is well-documented. In Japan, it has been a matter of political discussion for decades. The U.S. has (until recently) relied on immigration to offset the declining birth rate.
Sort of. You do get an increase in death rates decades later as people from a baby boom eventually die. However births tend to be in relative sync (closer together anyway) during a baby boom say over a period of a few years, while deaths are much more spread out maybe over a decade or more. That's because other factors come into play such as individual health, and the differences in people of the same age's health depending on economic state and lifestyle etc. In otherwords, lots of people may have been born in say 1945 but their deaths will be spread out over years because not everyone dies at the same age.
Many western countries are going through a period of natural population decline due to low birth rates and increasing death rates as baby boomers from 1945 onwards start dying. But those deaths are spread out, and somewhat offset by immigration. So yes more people are dying but populations are overall stable or even growing as immigrants flow in.
We generally call those wars and plagues.
Famines.
Pestilence, even
Is there any football on tonight? Is my gun oiled up? Are we bombing brown people? YEE HAAAAAAW
Yea, but it has more to do with baby boomers wrecking everything than anything else.
Of the 76M Boomers born between '45 and '69, 64M are still alive. With a life expectancy of 85 and the first traumch entering their 80s this year, we would expect to see a rapid fall off in the population (or a rapid climb in life expectancy average) over the next decade
You have to be careful with life expectancy. The LE of someone who is already 80 is much higher than that of a newborn. There are actuary tables if you want to look for them.
Yeah, it's already happening in places like Japan but what'll really do it in for everyone is WW3. Any day now and Trump will cause it. I'd wage money but we all know once that starts, currency won't be worth damn.
There’s a film that deals with this exact situation, based on a true story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burial_(film)
Aren’t all bombs death booms?
Bath bomb.... OF DEATH!!!
Hopefully soon, boomers have ruined everthing.
Respectfully, whenever I hear this I have to push back.
'The boomers fucked us over' trope is largely a myth like 'first world consumers are responsible for climate change': it's a cultural narrative that exists to divert blame to a huge group to obscure that it's mostly a small group of investors and their corporations who (in both of these cases) fucked over the other 99% of the civilisation.
It's true that most of the worst people are boomers: but as a group, most boomers are not these people. Most boomers are poor and have lived their whole lives in a fake democracy where they never really had serious political power.
The elderly greeters at Walmart who can never retire; the old woman at the bus stop wearing chipped glasses with a prescription 10 years out of date; the guy at the VA home dying of cancer he got from being drafted into Vietnam; these aren't the people who fucked the rest of us over. They're just us, older.
They should stop voting for republicans, but they don't.
Again, I don't want this to be a fight, but this isn't really true. Again, our media presents a certain picture of boomers that isn't actually reflective of what the average boomer looks like.
Most boomers aren't country club Republicans. In 2024, most baby boomers did not vote for Donald Trump.
In 2025, about 37% of baby boomers voted Republican. Just like most years.
You read that right: 25% didn't vote, and of those who did, Trump won 49%. That was enough to win.
Maybe you're asking, though, 'Why didn't they vote Democrat more! They should've elected Gore! And lots of Democratic congresspersons and senators! To which I would say that we live in a very damaged democracy in which the Democratic party has been running on most of the same economic policies as Republicans since the 1970s. Most boomers didn't have a say.
Most boomers are poor and have been fucked over by the government just like the rest of us.
The 1% (regardless of any age) are the bad guys.
I'd say the loudest boomers do that. The media's too busy trying to sell them shit to risk offending them. But perhaps you're right.
It can't come soon enough.
I guess two world wars, the plague and COVID would be a death boom?
Wars are bad, but the pan-epidemics are the real killers.
I moved to a small town (pop. 3.000) and there were two mortuaries working here.
It has slowed down now and one had to close.
Hating on everyone from a race or gender: ❌️
Hating on everyone from a generation: 👌
The ruling class owned and controlled media has been peddling intergenerational conflict for decades, and millenials remember it well, all of the news articles about how millenials are causing all of society's problems.
We need to realize that it was always a psyop to divide us. From boomers to zoomers, the working class must stand together in solidarity against the elite pedophile billionaire cabal running the planet.
We need to come together but in terms of convincing the Baby Boomers, it's a server uphill battle that'll get worse as they age. They had so much environmental lead that as they age it's seeping out form their bones. I don't know if there's more recent studies on it but it's not NOT having an effect.
There are already boomers who are on our side. Yeah, the majority have been sucking down propaganda all their lives and are probably a lost cause, but pushing anti-boomer messaging doesn't do anything to help them realize the problems in society are caused by the ruling class, it just makes them feel attacked and defensive, and people like that are more likely to withdraw and become more extreme and set in their ways.
Our messaging should be consistently anti-ruling class and focused on cost of living and that sort of thing. Conservative/reactionary boomers are just useful idiots playing the role of both victim and perpetrator, they just do what they're told and repeat propaganda fed to them.
I made some parody comments about the ruling class in some other threads, and I thought this response was to one of those.
Do you disagree? If so, why? Curious to hear your thoughts.
People write those articles because the readers want to believe it. They write the article. They get positive reviews or, since most news moved to the internet, clicks. As people read such articles, they come to believe in it and will be interested in more such articles in the future.
The people who do the research and polling on generational opinions also are more likely to continue when it brings them attention.
It's simple human nature and some activities getting rewarded and therefore are repeated. It requires no secret cabal nor centralized control. It's driven by the invisible hand and societal evolution.
Don't worry, you'll be able to censor stuff like that if your guys get power.
I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding, I don't believe that there's some centralized control or secret society going on, but the problem is the "invisible hand" operates to the benefit of those with power and wealth, and never against them.
It's well known that the press has to keep special interest groups happy in return for access, for example, and that is one of the reasons that Israel is spared from critique in the mainstream press. It's a far more complex system than just some shadowy group deciding what to cover, but rather a system of perverse incentives that all works to keep the powerful in power and to make the wealthy wealthier.
It doesn't really matter why the media has/does push intergenerational warfare, ultimately - just that they do, and that benefits the ruling class to the detriment of working class solidarity.
Not sure who "you guys" is referring to, but I am absolutely against censorship and all kinds of authoritarianism and coercion.
this is from gemini but 2005 would be the year 2/3rds of the greatest gen had passed away and 2028 will be silent generation. 2045 for boomers and X is 2064. So we are just getting to the point where more elderly boomers are dying over silent generation. Whats funny is it will be much longer for Xers to overtake boomers because of how large the boomers are and how small the Xers are and then it will be a shorter time once there are more millenials dying because they also are larger. Boomers will be the main diers for like 30 years going forward. I mean using current life expectancy anyway.